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It's a bit early, but fuck it. Pre-release hype edition.

Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator releasing on April 8th for Switch 1/2 and mobile later on. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.

>News
Launching at around 12pm JST
Mobile release possibly leaked for June
Free Dragonite launch gift also includes 100 Quick Coupons (used to speed up recruitment)

>Links
https://champions.pokemon.com/en-us/
https://x.com/Pokemon_Champs (EN) https://x.com/Poke_Champ_jp (JP)
Dex (so far): https://www.serebii.net/pokemonchampions/pokemon.shtml

Quick FAQ
>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?
No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.
>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?
All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.
>Is there single player content?
No.
>What battle gimmicks are in?
Only megas for now.
>What's the starter pack?
US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 quick coupons, 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music.
>Is anything locked behind a paywall?
So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP.
>Is the Switch 2 version enhanced?
Yes, better visuals and 60fps
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Just a few hours until Flybitch becomes a breeding sow for humiliation rituals!
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>>59140247
How long till it becomes 8th April everywhere on Earth? It already 8th April in my country.
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>>59140299
it releases in ~9 hours worldwide
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My team so far is CharY, Sneasler(ttar matchup), and Mamoswine(Dnite/chomp).
I need three more mons and have to avoid being to reliant on sun because weather is going to be very hotly contested. Zard also gets straight up walled by several mons.
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>>59140332
whimsicott <- priority sunny day if they want to fuck with your weather
venusaur <-chlorophyll
pikachu <- lightning rod
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I'm excited :D
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For me, it's megalass
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>no clue what I'm going to use
>having fun battling on scarlet
>regionals coming up + the grand champions festival shortly after
i feel like i'm in the filler arc between the last badge and the league in the first season, just fucking around until i get my ass kicked
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so did you guys sign up to skraw's tournament of plebs?
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I'm keep my expectations for this game low
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>>59140348
AV Raichu is one I ran back in 2018 to help deal with Koko matchups, but this meta is looking to be almost more hyper offensive and it's tough to even consider using purely support mons. Looking over the available mons I didn't see a compelling reason to carry lightning rod unless Raichu's megas take off in popularity.
A good opponent can control the weather pretty effectively. I wish H-lilligant was available because that's better support and presence than Venusaur is.
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I suck at battles but I'll at least give this a try to show off my legitimate shiny Mew.
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>>59140436
>she thinks she can use mythicals in PvP
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>>59140430
rain arch spam is very popular in the showdown server. unless you plan to counter that with eq mamo, then a lightning rod is a good idea imo. not like you need to bring it all the time. pikachu over raichu because showing off a partner hat + light ball is cooler than any raichu
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>>59140436
You're going to be waiting a very, very long time for a mythical meta.
Even a double restricted format probably won't happen for 2 years well after Gen 10 releases.
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Am I able to pre download this?
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Can I use Lickilicky
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>>59140450
I've definitely thought about the rain arch matchup.
They'll have to pivot pelipper in T2 to gain weather, unless they've got politoed in the back too. I'd probably lead Zard/Sneasler as it threatens big CC damage to where Zard may even pick up the KO without weather control afterwards.
Is everyone running AV arch?
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>>59140439
>>59140453
No free PvP mode?
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>>59140475
Nevermind, Google says no
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>>59140498
The assumption is mons that aren’t legal in ranked play won’t be programmed in at launch
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>>59140498
>it has a limited list of supported pokemon
Wow, it's worse than I thought.
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I wanna use my Hydrapple but my experience in SV is just him jobbing horribly because of typing
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>>59140498
There is a non-ranked mode.
But at launch, it'll just be the same roster as ranked mode.
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>>59140488
who knows but you're already a better player than those soulless metafags
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>>59140597
You can generally afford to karenfag 1 mon on your team as long it can fill a role.
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How long do you think it'll take for them to put not fully evolved mons?
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>>59140247
Anyone know the best answer to Rotom Wash? I guess it doesn't help that my strongest grass move is Matcha Gotcha, but this thing feel impossible to just consistently get rid of. I've got plenty of counterplay to Incineroar, Archaludon, Sneasler, Froslass, etc. etc. at this point but Rotom is a constant threat.
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Will sizes differences like XSS and Alphas be in the game? I need to know if I have to catch a regular M size.
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So what is the response to Archaludon? This thing has absolutely retarded stats and barely any weaknesses. What are you meant to do against it?
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>>59140641
Its unknown, but if I had to guess size difference will stay at an SS level, where its ±20% if it's kept at all. So Alpha's wont be comically huge.
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>>59140646
Close combat with something really strong and double into it that turn to attempt its removal.
Do they run protect?
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>>59140646
Hit it with earth power
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>>59140660
I should have specified that I mean for singles.
>>59140665
Earth Power from what? It probably has enough bulk to survive with investment, plus it has Sturdy.
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damn no tera on launch? there goes my plan for water tera weather ball charizard... i literally have to rebuild my team from the ground up. prob gonna stick with rain regardless. maybe
>pelipper (damp rock)
>archaludon (assault vest)
>toxicroak (sludge)
>mega feraligatr
>kingdra?
>rillaboom?
i'm not super deep into competitive pokemon, but lately I've been doing pelipper+water zard on the ladder in sv to great success and i want to do something similar here.
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>>59140681
This was shit you could have looked up months ago
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>>59140687
cool i started playing sv like a week ago, so i didn't look it up months ago
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>>59140687
You sound insufferable nigger kys
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Do you get to transfer your Pokemon back to Bank or are they permanently stuck in Champions? Seems shitty for Legendaries and Mythicals if that's the case.
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>>59140488
>Cloud Nine
Actually not a bad pick, at least until the meta calms down
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>>59140720
They don't actually transfer to Champions so there's no issues, they just get locked in Home when they're being used.
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I have no games or Home but I wouldn't mind getting back into the competetive scene again.

how do I obtain Pokemon and how long will it take to get a decent teeam?
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>>59140493
If I’m your opponent, I’m starting peliarch and switching peli out turn 1 and protecting arch so I can switch in turn 2, and either switching out arch to something that can take sneasler cc or hoping I ev’d to survive some how. I’m planning to run zard y, but I think it’s going to be an issue since you a) need to have it in and mega to start the sun and hope you’re not getting outplayed some how that turn and would need to switch it back in to change back unless you have a second slot to recornfirm your weather.
I forgot this existed, but something like swift swim ludicolo with sunny day could be useful. Sets fast sun if they swap in poli/peli, slower than a priority rain setter, and possibly underspeeds someone like sneasler using u-turn to swap in peli (who then insta activates swift swim so you set up sun again before anything happens (also neutral to electric as well)
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>>59140498
They're not gonna put in every single pokemon at launch.
More specifically, they're going to focus on 'mons that will be VGC-legal, so anything that is made available in SV, with some tie-ins from PLZA to fill the Mega quota.
Basically, don't expect anything that isn't available in BDSP (bare minimum bar for entry), SwSh, SV, PLA, or PLZA. The odds of your desired mons being in if they aren't accessable in any of those games flatlines immediately if they aren't present.
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>>59140651
>>59140641
Marks are in according to a screenshot, so at least you can have your former alpha, great, and teensy
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>>59140727
Weird system, but that's good news. Though I'm settling with a very limited roster because I'm not paying for Bank nor did I really play the Switch entries.
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>>59140720
My understanding is it's more like your Pokémon's info gets copied over a rental Pokémon more than it is you actually sending it over.
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>>59140735
And you're free to switch Peli out, I would probably protect T1 if I saw that lead. Save the mega for T2.
The Peli teams need double rain or they're going to have trouble and Zard is only immediately threatened by Arch if they have power herb.
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i'm building a team to fuck over incineroar, mega gengar & mence & metagross and will probably use it as my VP grinding team so i can make memes later
so far my general idea is double-defiant kingambit and annahilape with friend guard mouse as support, i will probably actually run mega mence myself just so i have another hyper offense but also looking for other mega ideas
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>>59140673
You can't one shot Archaludon it's just how it is, maybe M Camerupt can but lol Pelliper
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>>59140734
Your best bet is probably waiting for the mobile release. In the mean time you can catch what you want from Go to send to Home if you want to skip the daily rental Pokémon pull.
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>>59140738
You do realize that anything that all of the Switch games allow you to complete a full national dex right? What you just said was do not expect anything that isn't currently in the games, and I don't think anyone was expecting gen 10 Pokemon in these games at all.
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>>59140748
Swap out pelipper, swap in politoad, electro shot, wyd in this situation (they threaten swapping in pelipper again)
Weather wars are fun imo
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>>59140753
What can I run as a reliable switch in for when it hits the field? I was considering Hippowdon but I dunno how its meant to handle Pelipper.
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Is the DON in?
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>>59140769
Gastrodon forces it to draco meteor but it's unrevealed so I dunno lol
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>>59140630
pls respond this thing keeps kicking my ass.
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>>59140845
Gastrochad rises again
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>>59140776
god i hope tera never comes back, or if it does, at least without the stupid ass hats
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Do you think it is going to playable via emulation? Or there is some finnicky nintendo account to get around?
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>>59140943
Fucking This
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>>59141184
i would bet the chance of emulation is extremely close to 0%
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>>59141184
Its an online only game running on like, servers likely tied to a nintendo account and all that, not remotely emulatable.
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am I selfish for wanting battle revolution level of animation since this game only does battles
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>>59141535
goddamn flower brat...!
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>>59141535
The attack animations look better in Champions. The pokemon animations are still stiff though.
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How long until we know ALL the new mega abilities? I'm really interested on knowing what m-malamar and m-meowstic will get
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>>59141554
Well the game comes out in 3 hours. But it looks like they are saving a few megas for season 2 and 3. We can probably still datamine their abilities though.
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assuming I'll be able to just transfer over my mons from home right away, these are the teams I've prepared to try hard on the ladder tonight.
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Ehe~ I can't wait to customize my trainer
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>>59141552
damn well at least it looks flashy like you said
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>>59141554
11:00pm EST I think
And I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but it seems likely that not all megas are going to be supported day 1
So we are going to be in the dark regarding some abilities for a while...
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>>59141213
>>59141223
mobile version though
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>>59141557
I don't entirely know how it works
But it would be weird to have data of mons that are not supported at the moment in the game
Yes, it could happen, but I think it's not likely
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>a bunch of children are about to be exposed to stall, moody, tera electric shedninja, and other varying levels of bullshit
It's going to be so funny
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>>59141535
Since they're drip feeding pokemon and redoing animations (and models?) I can only hope it's a sign they're going to put the effort in for each one, over the lifetime of Champions. This is a modern Stadium / Battle Revolution successor after all.
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damn I wish I was smart enough to build teams myself
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>>59141601
While this wont get you a top tier meta team, I generally make teams by:
1. Pick a pokemon I really want to use (I might like it, or think its interesting)
2. Figure out its biggest weaknesses, and figure out a partner buddy for it that covers those weaknesses (if it needs to set up, someone who lets it set up with follow me / rage powder for example)
3. Figure out which common meta picks your first two buddies don't deal with, and start filling your team with counters to those that also synergize well with your first two (ideally getting at least one other good par within that chunk)

Hardest part of teambuilding is literally just knowing where to start, everything afterwards kinda builds itself, and as you test it you figure out what you dont beat and change up moves or swap out a party member to cover those.
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Is the 7 dollar gay ass purchase worth it I'm not sinking a bunch of money into this but if I can get into it with a one time purchase im down
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>Still cannot decide between using Megagross, Zard Y, M Froslass or original M Lucario
The only Pokemon for a team I have picked out are Grimmsnarl / Alolan Ninetails (depends if I go with Froslass or not), Rotom Mow, Talonflame, Garchomp, and the final slot is a toss-up between Sneasler or Hisuian Zoroark. And that’s assuming these are all in the game at launch.
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did the pokemon list leak yet?
i need my nigga alolan muk
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>>59141628
https://pastebin.com/knfHDPky
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>>59141535
The hit animations looked cool but they were way too long. I played >XD last month it was ridiculous how much time was spent watching Hariyama get smacked and slowly walk back into position. Battle Revolution was worse for the mons with walk animations.

The one thing I do want back from these games is attacks actually coming out of the mouth/cannons. Mega Blastoise might look like it's finally shooting out of its cannon, but the Dragon Pulse is really just being shot out of the place where the cannon will be positioned. It's not noticeable in 99% of cases because the modern 3D games have such quick attacks to begin with, but it still bothers me.
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>>59141628
>>59141630
I believe all regional variants are in, can't remember where I heard that though
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>>59141628
no smeargle? bloody benchod bastards....
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>>59141592
not same devs but I hope they hired one full of passion
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>>59141616
Hard to say before release but the only value I see in it is the bigger storage. Other than that it's just some items that make training quicker.

>>59141634
I think that was just something an anon guessed based on how many regional variants there seemed to be in screenshots. If it's true I wonder how it works with there seemingly only being fully evolved mons. Like, if Mr. Mime is in, doesn't that mean Galarian Mr. Mime is in? Or would it just be Kantonian Mr. Mime and Mr. Rime?
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>>59141632
Its a tough balancing act. Obviously all those fancy hit animations add a ton of personality and look cool in gifs, but most people can't even stand the animation length we have and consider battles too slow as-is, this would make them even longer, like 50% longer, which just isnt going to work especially for people used to Showdown.
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>>59141620
I'm going to try out the original Mega Lucario first before I utilize the Z version.
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>>59141632
I feel like long animations make more sense in a purely competitive game like this because it gives the player more time to think. Its really bad in colloseum because thats a jrpg grafted onto the Stadium battle system
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>>59140247
What team do you plan to build first? Personally, I'm gonna go with a standard Hyper Offense team. No strategy, just unga bunga and big stats. Should be able to rack up easy wins while everyone is still figuring out the meta.
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Whats the fastest way to max friendship in SV? I have a shiny Riolu I need to evolve last minute for Champions.
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>>59141535
From the world's most lucrative IP on a simulator based specifically around only battles where the animations are the main selling point over their competition? No I wouldn't call that selfish. Especially since they'll be drip feeding the pokemon into the game and thus have more than enough time to work on each pokemon individually.
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>>59141679
I'm gunna try m-frosslass aurora veil, may as well use a new mega instead of the same ones from 10 years ago.
This launch is gunna be chaotic since it seems like we're just gunna learn about mega abilities on the fly
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>>59141628
We don't know the roster yet. Don't believe that shitty pasabin from that larp thread.
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>>59141680
just make sandwiches over and over. only need one ingredient and a sauce, like mustard + lettuce.
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>>59141679
evasionmaxxing
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>>59141561
I know i am not repeating the mistake of picking a boy like I did on Unite. Girls get the best clothes
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>>59141535
Game Freak is too lazy for that, enjoy slightly modified animations from SV
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>>59141680
Berries.
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>>59141592
I want Cinderace's Pyro Ball animation back
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Can’t wait to find out Mega Chimecho’s ability, I hope it’s good.
>>59140260
Kind of pointless, you’d just end up with more Trapinch
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>>59141689
t. Tranny
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>>59141673
Remember that most people would be playing this to "ladder", they dont care about every specific match just getting it finished and increasing their rank. So you'd have the exact same issue, perhaps even moreso since said playerbase doesnt give two shits about flavour.
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>>59141680
soothe bell and vitamins
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rate my RIZARDOOOOON team, ignore tera types, i've been scrounging up natdex doubles teams
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>>59141702
So what if I am? What you gonna do about it big boi?
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>>59141729
bbbased
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I don’t have Duraludon because I didn’t buy the DLC so I hope I luckshit it on recruitment
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>>59141767
Meant Archaludon
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>>59141767
I just shamelessly genned a bunch of dlc stuff from a twitch stream.
I'd like to try S/V dlc one day but I'm also over gen 9 by this point.
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>>59141729
what was the fire+ grass pledge combo effect again?
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I'm either going to hit them many times or one time very hard. Either way it's going to be excruciating.
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>>59141782
grass pledge allows for fire pledge to activate immediately alongside damaging the entire side for a bit at the end of each turn
generally a team effort, high speed nuke, i may have to drop it though since fake out is so prevalent
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How do I make heracross work frens.
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>>59141817
>Take Crawdaunt team
>Replace Crawdaunt with whatever beatstick you happen to like
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1 more hour?
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>>59141826
Should be. I'm worried the servers are gonna be overloaded to shit and there's gonna be a login queue.
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downloading it now
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>>59141729
What's the goal of the Trick Room giraffe? Feels unnecessary when you're building the rest of your team for speed
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ITS HERE
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download is up on the eshop but dunno if servers will be live yet
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>>59141852
anti-trick room on one hand, the other being actual tr in the case of opposing tailwinds or if kingambit ends up being a big piece of the fight
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>>59141796
So weatherless chip? Cool
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Time to punch hordes of babies for VP
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join my guild
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is the starter pack worth?
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shit's running at 20fps on switch 2 lmao
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Wait is it already out? I thought it came out in another 4-ish hours. Doesn’t matter to me as it’s a WFH day so I can download it whenever but am genuinely curious.
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Can you change your name later?
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guessing this "John" they match you against is a bot
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>>59141892
bro that was me
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backseater Rotom...
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AAAA WHERE IS IT
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>Stuck at work
Have fun without me…
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>>59141887
yes, can change it in settings
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Im already masterball rank btw
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>>59141904
we always do
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i mastered my ball into your mom
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>kitt
Muh dick
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>>59141916
me too, want to do it together tonight?
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>dondozo and tatsugiri are banned in champions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>59141926
BASED BASED BASED
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>>59141632
>>59141673
The game shouldn't have to wait for the animations to play out. Everyone can walk back into starting positions while your in the menu.
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>ANOTHER rotom shill device
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>named myself simply S
>it went through
Well huh. Guess I'm that, then
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>No Mawile
:(
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>mayor of frontier
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>Howdy-do!
Y-you too
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I’m gonna be a Pokemon champion!!!!!!
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>>59141926
Thank fucking Christ. Does anyone know if pic made it in?
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is the switch rom out yet
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>>59141963
should've brought back poketopia from Battle Revolution
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>>59141954
That one is genuinely surprising to hear as that most likely means a smaller roster of Megas to use and choose from.
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>your base appearance cannot be changed
FUCK
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>>59141990
>Customization is the thing that would sell the most
>They fuck it up and make it all half-assed
This franchise is a fucking nightmare man.
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What are the new abilities?
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This game doesn't even look graphically intensive how is it running like absolute SHIT on the Switch 2?
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>>59142008
If it's bad on the Switch 2, how bad is it on the Switch 1?
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oh nonono body slam and bullet seed look like absolute shit...
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>>59141990
Welp going female then
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I cant play because I wage on the graveyard shift...

Post abilities, rosters, megas, skins, ect so I am not too sad.
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>Make dedicated game for grown men
>Subject them to unloseable tutorials
GameFreak...
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>>59141990
What? I didn't see that. Is it just gender?
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>>59142016
Not like it matters since all the clothing will be genderless blobs for the sake of ***inclusivity***. No skirts or dresses allowed.
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>>59141975
https://web-view.app.pokemonchampions.jp/battle/pages/events/rs177501629259kmzbny/en/pokemon.html
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https://x.com/CentroLeaks/status/2041707334104203336

KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Let us know how recruiting works, if you can make a whole team of six right away or if you are stuck to one a day.
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>>59142021
And skin tone
>>59141990
What are the clothing options looking like?
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>>59142013
blurry
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>>59142034
______ __ _ ______
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>>59142025
NO CINCCINO NO BUY NO DOWNLOAD
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Wheres the abilitys leak
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I just want to officially know the ZA mega abilities so that romhacks can update for them
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Banned pokemon list of relevance:
all legends (of course)
all NFEs except pikachu (of course)
Ursaluna (both)
Gothitelle
Rillaboom
Amoonguss
Annihilape
Blaziken
Metagross
Swampert
Salamence (LOL)
Baxcalibur
Staraptor
Sceptile
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What the actual fuck???
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Mega Skarmory has Stalwart
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>>59142064
We're only going to get like 15 of them. Most of the new megas are absent, including Raichu.
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is the switch NSP/XCI out yet

is the switch NSP/XCI out yet

is the switch NSP/XCI out yet

is the switch NSP/XCI out yet
is the switch NSP/XCI out yet
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roster leaked. its shite
gg
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>>59142075
Sceptile is too strong, I'm glad they banned him.
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Who asked
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>>59142075
NOOOOOO
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>>59142075
forgot donzo + tatsu
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>>59142034
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>>59142034
I'm going to assume they forgot to push the Switch 2 patch
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where is my chicken
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>>59142079
You're joking... R-Right?
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Oh my god it looks like a wii game
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>>59142034
Stop being a bigot
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Mega Meowstic has TRACE
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>>59142089
me
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https://serial-web-front.app.pokemonchampions.jp/
>apple account
>google account
but mobile version isn't out yet
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wtf mega absol z has pure power
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>simishit
LOL
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>>59142034
im sticking to shodown
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Sex. Intense baby making sex.
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My condolences, Skarmorysissies...
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I thought this game was going to be out towards the end of the month. Is it already out for eveyrone?
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>Mega Meowstic has Trace
ONE FUCKING JOB
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>>59142078
Centro is a nigger.
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>>59142075
>Hoenn starters
Swampert is fair enough and Blaziken is good but not broken, but fucking Sceptile of all things?
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>>59142107
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>>59142075
Why are the gen 3 starters banned?
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HOLY FUCK LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>Bunch of Mega stones locked behind premium battle pass
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New megas in:
>Clefable
>Victreebel
>Starmie
>Dragonite
>Meganium
>Feraligatr
>Skarmory
>Chimecho
>Froslass
>Emboar
>Excadrill
>Chandelure
>Golurk
>Chesnaught
>Delphox
>Greninja
>Floette
>Meowstic
>Hawlucha
>Crabominable
>Drampa
>Scovillain
>Glimmora

New megas not in:
>Absol Z
>Staraptor
>Garchomp Z
>Lucario Z
>Heatran
>Darkrai
>Scolipede
>Scrafty
>Eelektross
>Malamar
>Barbaracle
>Dragalge
>Zygarde
>Golisopod
>Magearna
>Zeraora
>Falinks
>Tatsugiri
>Baxcalibur
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>>59142130
F-fuark…
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so is this where poketards cope that
>n-n-nuh-no one cared about X pokemon anywayyyyyyy
when it turns out the game has a bigger list of non-inclusions than the KKK
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>>59142130
based based based based based
golurkbros we are automatically vgc viable
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>>59142130
holy shit
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>>59142107
>>59142117
>Two of my favorite mons got absolutely raped and cucked
Golisopod, please fucking have Tough Claws or I'm killing myself tonight
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>>59142134
Neither of the Raichu are in.
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how the fuck do I get my HOME pkm in?
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>>59142107
>>59142121
IMMA KILL MYSELF
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>>59142130
>Giving out Unseen Fist is fine
>Giving out Dragon's Maw is not fine
Toiletbros...
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>>59140247
>No Home connectivity
What's the fucking point
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>>59142130
NIGGA WHAT
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>>59142130
can't really use ghost stab with this but damn
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Someone posted Drampa has Insomnia, is that true?
>>59142134
That's a lotta missing megas.
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which mega charizarderino will you use
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>>59142130
KINO
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>>59142134
>no mega pod
Fuck you gamefreak
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Mega Chandelure got Infiltrator...
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>can’t use Dondozo
>you can use Archaludon and Pelliper though :)
>Gastrodon isn’t in
My eyes rolling out of my skull tbqh
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>>59142134
forgot the raichus and pyroar. they’re not in either.
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>>59142170
MR POTENTIAL MON LOLOLOLOLOL
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>>59142172
welcome to dexit 2 megas boogaloo where you only use the pokemon we decided to add into the game :)
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>>59142130
AINT NO WAY
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Any abilities confirmed buffed or nerfed?
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>>59142159
unprotectable STAB earthquakes is pretty cool
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>>59142172
Aren't you excited for more Reg H, anon?
You'll be able to keep using your favorite team of baracat, archepper and sneasler!
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where the fuck is the HOME functionality?
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>>59142134
There goes all of my hype. Every mega I wanted to use is missing.
Hope they're at least in the game's data.
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>>59142172
Arch lost Body press apparently
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>>59142170
Ok well I guess hes donezo
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>>59142130
>Gliscor gets nuked by Ice Punch whether it likes it or not. Honestly sure, that’s a strict benefit. Apparently gets Headlong Rush too so I’d say it’s taking a W here.
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Hawlucha gets No Guard.
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>MegaSkarm is eternally cucked
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>>59142191
IT'S A LIVE SERVICE GAME YOU STUPID NIGGER
THEY'RE BEING ADDED LATER
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Any nerfs or buffs to existing mons, like added or removed moves that anyone's noticed?
>>59142170
I heard some people were hoping for Shadow Tag, that sucks.
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meowsticbros what the actual fuck
literally just alakazam but bad
were they really that fucking terrified of fem meowstic getting a competitive boost pre-mega??
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Where are the held items REEEE
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>>59142193
GET FUCKED NIGGER BRIDGE
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Here are your held items, bro.
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This thread needs to stop lying about abilities. Anyway Mega Chandelure has frisk
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>>59142198
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>runs like ass
>megas are locked into the premium battle pass
>only 1 "free" scout per day
this shit is gonna be dead after a month lmao
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>>59142189
exactly where you think. nowhere.
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>Mega Eternal Floette has Fairy Aura
Well, I guess we know what Mega Darkrai's getting.
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>>59142187
unseen fist is only contact moves, golurk can't eq through protect it has to run high horsepower
not like you want eq in a meta with rillaboom anyway
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>>59142208
Guys think about how viable it’ll be in draft league!
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>>59142201
Yeah, when? And who is going away when something new is added?
Live service is objectively cancer, and I will not be participating.
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>>59142130
They nerfed it right? It’s 1/4 through protect like Exca?
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>>59142211
FOR WHAT PURPOSE
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>>59142220
okay bye
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>>59142211
For what? Cross Chop?
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Why do I keep getting bot matches? The game is brand new!
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>>59142217
It gets Headlong Rush now, though. No need for Horsepower.
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>>59142212
How do you build a team of 6? There’s no Home yet right?
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>>59142226
>>59142231
High Jump Kick?
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>>59142215
I haven’t bothered getting that little shit fuck
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hurry up and update your game shodown jannies. im not paying for this kusoge
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>>59142227
I'm going to continue complaining about it because it deserves to be complained about.
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>>59142231
>>59142242
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>>59142189
lol
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>>59142211
FOCUS BLAST HERE WE GOOOOOO!
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>>59142237
>Unseen Fist
>Headlong Rush
Suddenly not upset about Mega Meowstic anymore
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Was inner focus always immune to intimidate?
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>no bald option for your character
FUCK THIS GAME
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>>59142247
>I AM A SAD FAGGOT PLEASE FEEL BAD FOR ME
yeah thanks for contributing
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>>59142242
It already has Close Combat to use. I guess it's not as pointless as giving something like Doublade the move, but it's still pretty stupid to give it that ability when it can only use 2 moves(of the same type) with it.
HJK would be a death sentence anyway in VGC.
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>>59142172
wasn't dondozo literally the first fucking thing we saw of champions and it isn't in?? lmao
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>>59142257
since sword & shield
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>first ranked battle
>hit a crit
lel
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>no choice band
>no choice specs
What the fuck is this?
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>Life Orb, Choice Band and Choice Specs have been removed from competitive Pokémon, they are not in Pokémon Champions

This game's a fucking mess.
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Uhh where's sitrus berry?
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>>59142262
Doesn’t doublade get guillotine
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>>59142198
>>59142211
To use with WHAT? High jump kick? Bounce? Motherfucker
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So how is this a proper battle sim when half of the pokedex is straight unavailable whether they're shitmons, psuedos, NFEs or legendaries?
Same for items whether they're gimmick crap or common staples?
The game is a disaster.
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Arch is dead in the streets (except Electro Shot is still a great move)
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Uh...
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>>59142269
none of these items were fun or interesting and i'm glad they're gone. kill yourself anytime
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What did she got?
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>>59142269
Fucking kek that’s somehow more egregious than the dex cut of new PLZA megas before they even get a proper game. What the fuck are they doing
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>let’s make our own pokemon showdown but add a paywall and a seasons pass and cut 80% of pokemon and mechanics from the game while dripfeeding some of it back over the course of 3 years
what were they thinking
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>>59142277
Why WHAT HAPPENED
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>>59142280
Based bootlicker piggy
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>metagross is banned
LMAO
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Mega Clef has Magic Bounce
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>Mega Gallade still has Inner Focus....

OWARI DA SHARPNESSISSIES
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>*Ting ting ting*
>"Ahem!"
>He raises his glass with a confident smirk.
>"I'd like to raise a toast to all my fans who never doubted me… to those who stayed loyal from the very beginning."
>He pauses, then turns his gaze toward the camera with a sly smile.
>"And to all my haters… you're probably wondering what I would’ve done if I hadn’t won."
>He chuckles softly.
>"Well… I guess we’ll never know."
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>>59142283
and yet you still bought it kek lmao
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If none of the Sinnoh starters got buffed I will be pissed.
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>>59142280
so true xister
there should only be 20 pokemon available and only 3 items
go play showdown if you want anything else :)
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>>59142269
Stallbros, is it time
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>>59142269
>choice scarf stays
Of all the choice items to keep, it's the one that ruins the game the most.
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>>59142283
Retards will still pay for it because it says Pokemon
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>>59142269
lmfao wow ok
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>>59142034
WEW LAD LMFAOOOOO
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>>59142291
I WILL NOT FLINCH
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>>59142278
Does Fairy Aura stack, like in a world with this and Xerneas being playable
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https://www.serebii.net/pokemonchampions/megaabilities.shtml
Joe confirmed Infiltrator on Chandelure
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>>59142239
Pick one of 10 preset mons in the tutorial scout, receive another 5 completely random pokemon to give you a full team.
Then you have enough free tickets to scout another 5 times.
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cute
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This should have been a slam dunk. All GF had to do was include all the pokemon, and let you battle using all the gimmicks and items. This is something showdown has let you do since forever. Instead, GF figured out a way to screw it up. It's like they put actually effort into pissing people off. Im so tired of this franchise you guys. I've never seen a company thats so hell bent on screwing over the fans. Its absolutely unreal.
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>>59142309
no
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So many mons are not in that I wanted to use, fuck this pos
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>>59142284
Lost Body Press
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Mega Glimmora gets Adaptability apparently
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Clef
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Sex with Caraway
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No 6v6 in private battles.
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>>59142269
They are terrified of new players getting overwhelmed with damage that’s also why terrains aren’t in.
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what the fuck is up with the performance? is there a switch 2 upgrade or something because this looks and runs like absolute shit
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>>59142316
They didn't screw anything up. They made a live service game that they know will rake in money from paypiggies.
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>>59142269
Lmao, they really want to enforce mega feraligatr
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>>59142321
cute but it's still shit
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I'M NUCLEEEEEAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR
I'M WIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDDDDD
I'M BREAKING UP INSIDE
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>>59142324
There was literally no reason for them to do this
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>>59142325
>that’s also why terrains aren’t in.
But there's literally a terrain tutorial...
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>>59142269
should have removed scarf
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I want to check how many tickets I have, where are theyyy
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>>59142320
WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE MAN!?
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>>59142316
It’s pretty shocking that a company worth this much money, essentially the flagship IP of all of Nintendo, was able to shit out a game this bad
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>>59142316
>>Include all Pokemon and items
>Rotate formats consistently
>Allow people to make their custom rulesets
>Milk people money through paid character customization
It was this easy to kill showdown forever.
So simple and yet somehow so out of reach for these niggers.
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>>59142324
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH FUCK THIS GAME
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Does my boy Aerodactyl have Head Smash and/or Brave Bird?
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here to laugh at anybody who had any hope for this shit
back to showdown, children
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>>59142339
Okay, and how do you expect my Rampardos to do any dmg without her scarf?
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Mega Glimmora Adaptability confirmed lmao
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>>59142340
you can find out when you are spending them :^)
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>>59142326
I wonder how badly it'll end up running on phones now.
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>>59142291
Immunity to Fake Out and Intimidate is actually really good
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>>59142320
literally what is the point
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>>59142347
Hope for what, this is basically just for VGC
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>>59142295
>EVERY POKEMON RUNNING LIFE ORB OR CHOICE ITEMS IS LE GOOD
zarel, please
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There's sooooo many missing mons holy shit
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>>59142343
And yet they will keep falling upwards.
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>>59142353
Pokemon games all run like shit on phones.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

KILL

GF

NOW
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>>59142326
There is no Switch 2 version.
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>>59142365
seething verlisfag
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Stuck on the dogshit character creation screen,
Can I edit my character later? Is there more options later? Is it free to edit your character? And can I switch between boy or girl or am I forever locked to one?
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>no home connectivity
>everything cost money
>character looks like a lesbian
>30fps

I’m out
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Game Freak are a bunch of RETARDS
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>>59142371
I expected them to give it a new name since Huge Power is exclusive to bunny or bunny-like pokemon
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>>59142373
THOSE FUCKING CHINESE BASTARDS
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>>59142373
Rainroombros...
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>>59142353
my only cope would be that we’re currently playing on the phone version and they somehow didn’t have the switch 2 version ready in time. I mean this looks BAD.
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>>59142328
Live service games live and die by their launches. They botched this game hard.
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Drampa LOST
Chandelure LOST
Hawlucha LOST
Skarmory LOST
Meowstic LOST
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>>59142373
That’s disappointing.
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>>59142371
weird as fuck, i 100% expected it to be pure power.
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>>59142371
How good is Huge Power on Starmie?
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>>59142385
It'll live because you aren't playing VGC otherwise.
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>IVs all set to 31
>you keep your EVs (just have to pay for the 1 extra point)
>you keep your moves
>you keep your nature mint changes
Holy fuck I thought they'd be more jewish about this. Mainline game owners won't have to pay SHIT with VP.
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Which megas won
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>Premium Battle Pass
>Monthly membership for box spaces + teams
>Gacha tier interface
this is way worse than I thought
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>>59142373
LMAOOOOOOO
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>Mega Victreebel ability: Innards Out
lol
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what does mega victreebel get
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>>59142362
>this is basically just for VGC
How? Half the pokemon aren't even available, and a ton of items aren't even in the game. There are literally more battle options available in every other mainline game. What's even the point of this game?
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>>59142326
>>59142375
If there's only a switch version then it should run at max settings on switch 2, 1080p and either a solid 30 or 60fps depending on what it's capped to.

If it looks bad then it's just the typical gamefreak retards at work.
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so whats the meta bros
the meta what is it
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M Bell gets innards out lmao
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>>59142319
No, Nooooooo
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>>59142396
golurk, bigly
fucking unseen fist lmao
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Holy Shit this game looks like ass
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>>59142269
SCARF BROS WE LIVE
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...
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>>59142379
>no home connectivity
excuse me what??
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>>59142365
Now they're just going to run the crappy 1.2x type items if they aren't running Leftovers.
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>They dumbed down the PVP game for verlisfags
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT I DIDN'T THINK IT COULD GET WORSE THAN THIS LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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>>59142410
It's for VGC. All future VGC tournaments are played on this game.
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>starting Gardevoir has Psychic Noise
>prevents the opponent from healing for two turns
I haven't played any mainline games in a long time. Is this a Champions exclusive atrack designed specifically to fuck over stall or has the been around a while?
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My Floettite isn't showing up in my item list
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>MBell might as well have no ability
LMAO
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>>59142402
>Use your Mega to kill yourself and the other guy
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This game is a fucking train wreck, it was so easy but they crashed the train anyways
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>>59142386
Golurk WON
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>>59142393
VGC doesn't pull enough people to support a gacha.
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>>59142379
>no home connectivity
Pls understand indie company, too much resources and money to have Home connectivity day one, small small indie company
Now pls buy the starter bundle you poor faggot
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fucking hell they really saw the state of modern live service slop and wanted to do one even worse
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ARCHALODON NO LONGER GETS BODY PRESS!!!!
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>>59142413
Hyper offense for a couple weeks at least.
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>>59142402
>suicide mega
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>>59142402
Might be cool since it can actually hit things and isn’t a passive blob
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>>59142394
Except for a home subscription
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DOES GOLURK KEEP FISSURE FROM ZA
DOES GOLURK KEEP FISSURE FROM ZA
DOES GOLURK KEEP FISSURE FROM ZA
PLEASE RESPOND
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>>59142394
that would be nice if they actually released home functionality like they said they would
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Levitate looking pretty good, isn’t it? The phox sends her regards :^)
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>>59142396
Golurk
Feraligatr will be better than the base form because no Life Orb.
A lot of the shittier old megas will be better because the lack of choice items or LO.
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>>59142427
Was added in the SV DLC.
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>>59142365
>smogonigger making excuses for item cuts
Item clause is a thing retard, you get one per team
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>>59142422
He’s retarded. You can transfer shit to Champions from the Home app.
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Sleep got nerfed.
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>>59142441
Smogonsissies are fucking seething
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Only GF could make a game this bad. I don’t know how in somehow believe that they’ll get things right every time. Why am I optimistic? They can literally only shit out the worst possible indie garbage imaginable.
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>>59142394
No home connectivity for now
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>>59142463
Is this not exactly the same
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Paralysis too.
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>>59142463
So did paralysis
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>>59142412
Yeah and it's capped at 30 for some fucking reason.
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Joe updated:
>Victreebel has Innards Out
>Chimecho kept Levitate
>Crabominable keeps Iron Fist
>Drampa keeps Berserk
>Glimmora gets Adaptability
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>>59142454
>>59142468
I literally just transferred an entire box from Home. You have to do it from Home itself THEN collect them on Champions.
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>>59142427
Been around a while.
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>>59142473
What was the odds before this?
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Pokemon Stadium 2 has more mons than this game KEK
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>>59142463
>remain asleep first turn
Doesn't this mean you can never get an instant wake up?
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>>59142472
it's worded weirdly. it sounds like there's no more 3 turn sleeps, but that could just be a translation error.
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>>59142484
1 in 4
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>>59142454
>>59142468
me when I spread misinfo
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>>59142487
You never could.
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Every fanfic ability was just so, so wrong (besides Starmie which was pretty much confirmed from the jump)
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>>59142487
you never could unless you had early bird. that's just freeze.
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>>59142494
Yes you could.
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>>59142487
I CAST EARLY BIRD
GO MY SUNFLORA
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>>59142473
This is a good thing. Paralysis’ main use is speed control, parahax getting nerfed is an improvement
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>>59142463
ITS OVER
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The font and UI looks wrong, like they poorly copied it from something or like literally bought some shitty assets and just plugged them in. wtf?
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>>59142476
>No Gorilla Tactics
It's over crabbros
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>>59142476
>>Victreebel has Innards Out
Do the people who balance this game even read the fucking pokedex entries?
>>Chimecho kept Levitate
I mean, good, but like a sound boosting move would've been ideal
>>Crabominable keeps Iron Fist
Genuinely why?
>>Drampa keeps Berserk
Again. Do these fags even read the entries???
>>Glimmora gets Adaptability
Beedrill 2.0
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>>59140247
so uhh how do you play champions if you wanna play on ur pc. I don't wanna play on my tiny phone... emus don't seem to work.
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Is there a single ability left...
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Is there really no home? I thought the point of the last home update was literally so you could use it with the game AND you get the za megas for linking to home with the za starters
Nigga what
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>>59142508
Your Switch 2 nigga?
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>>59142476
>Victreebel has Innards Out
That is actually fucking hilarious
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NO MEGA GYARADOS????
IM FUCKED
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>>59142505
It’s the ultra low resolution making everything look off. The results of playing a literal mobile game on your TV most likely.
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>>59142507
>Beedrill 2.0
Too slow, and (special)Rock isn't nearly as good as U-Turn. It's DOA.
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>>59142514
YOU OPEN HOME AND CONNECT TO CHAMPIONS.
IT TELLS YOU AS MUCH IN-GAME.
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>>59142515
fuck the switch 2 I'll get one when winds and waves comes out.
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SAY IT WITH ME
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man what are they smoking with these abilities
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>>59142512
nope. nothing left to get excited over. golurk is literally the only winner, everyone else got the designated shitmon award.
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Jesus fuck how was Froslass the only mega people managed to guess the ability right for
Did we seriously overestimate GameFreak
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https://gist.github.com/kwsch/e34f3c32ebbcc9ccf84c65f9133cbe25
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>>59142523
Ok cool, I’m not home (lol) yet so I can’t do anything yet
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>>59142519
Do your tutorial mission little bro
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NERF
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the animation of the pokemon actually coming out of the ball is abysmal. there are a lot of things wrong with this mess but that’s the straw that is breaking the camel’s back, because I know this will never be fixed.
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How do I give my Pokémon Mega Stones?
They aren't showing up in the item menu
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>>59142526
FUCKING NOTHING
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>>59142535
>New mega not in champions have their abilities scrubbed
Damn
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>>59142548
literally fucking why
of all the things to nerf why leech seed???
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lol Holy Trainwreck
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There is even a mission for transferring a pokemon from HOME
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>>59142548
Why?
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>>59142555
Just GF anti-stall agenda.
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>>59142560
>>59142555
CIR leech 2 strong LOL
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Can you edit your character for free?
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>There's now a good chance Mega Dragalge does not get Regenerator because Gamefreak forgot how to make Pokemon usable
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Does Unseen Fist have the same damage reduction as Excadrill's ability, or did they just make Excadrill shit on purpose?
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Watching this Blunder stream and this is funny af
Bro was against a scary face flash cannon pressure gambit
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>>59142552
Megas have their own tab
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>>59142566
It costs VP.
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>>59142566
lol no
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>>59142535
>0531-01: Audino (Mega Audino)
>Abilities: Healer (1) / Healer (2) / Healer (H)
lol
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>>59142567
you'll get corrosion and you will like it
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Holy shit, I hate all this, what the hell
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>>59142548
>>59142560
>>59142565
Who would Leech Seed even be viable on in this meta? Just Mega Chesnaught?
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Bros...
So many of the Pokemon I was planning to use aren't even available...
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What's the point of me breeding the perfect super Pokemon if IVs aren't in and the abilities get changed anyways?
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>>59142580
>chesnaught for once in its life gets something nice
>immediately nerfed
such is life
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>>59142574
>>59142575
What the fuck, can I change genders at will or am I stuck to what I choose at the start?
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>>59142211
This is beyond stupid.
I wanted to run a defensive one, but this makes it worse.
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>>59142581
Same.........I don't know why I had faith in this game
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Wait did I just transfer in my 40+ home grown comp mons from Gen 6 without checking nerfs?
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>>59142581
At this point, it's your own fault for expecting all the pokemon to be available in any pokemon game. Honestly, im surprised all Pokemon are even allowed in Home.
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>>59142598
NYAHAHAHA
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>>59142588
It tells you up front that you cannot edit your "base appearance", which is your gender and skin colour.

Everything else is fair game. Clothes cost VP but things like eye and hair customisation is free.
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>>59142316
>>59142344
I've been saying they could do this for fucking ever, like we didn't even need to move to 3D to do it. It would have been cheaper to make too. Just charge people for cosmetics, music, pokeball sparkles, titles before your name. Let people play with all the Pokemon and meanwhile retards will pay out the ass to be "Gym Leader Morty" whose Pokeballs sparkle and his BGM is the original Rival Music from RBY.
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>>59142599
Ok but even you agree it’s crazy we didn’t get Mega Raichu, right? Brand new mega FOR THE MASCOT LINE never before appears in proper battling and he got skipped.

What the hell
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Freeze got nerfed too.
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>>59142580
Celesteela when she comes back
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>Clearly a touch interface
>Can't use touch screen
lol okay
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>>59142572
underage
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>>59142599
>Honestly, im surprised all Pokemon are even allowed in Home.
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way too much dooming jesus. idk who was expecting every single mon and every single gimmick on release. have you ever played a live service game? lmao. I also prefer rotations
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>>59142610
I'm actually fucking pissed off
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>>59142614
>freeze actually capped
thank god what a retarded fucking status
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Why am I only fighting Japanese names?
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>>59142614
Good. Maybe now we can get attacks with a better freeze chance
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>>59142614
That seems identical, or did freeze originally not have a turn cap?
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>>59142627
Only Japs would gobble up this up.
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>>59142620
I was AT LEAST expecting all of the ZA megas, because we haven't gotten the chance to use them in traditional battles yet.
They couldn't even include all of the megas for Pokemon that are in the game.
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Can you change your trainer name later?
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No way anyone can defend this shit
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Do you miss the SV ladder yet /v/?
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>>59142620
indians just got home from school like an hour ago. this is the worst possible time to discuss anything.
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>>59142638
Don't worry, you can get their mega stones in the next battle pass :^)
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Gacha is a labyrinthine nightmare. Can I buy VP or what, there's like 3 passes and memberships and none of them seem to do anything
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Is Mega Absol with Magic Bounce in? Otherwise I'm fucked.
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>>59140247
I want to make Indigo disk Kieran team for double battle, but they cut grimmsnarl and polygonZ.. Fuck Pokemon Company.
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>>59142620
There's like a literal handful of Mons we can play with it's less than a single game.
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>>59142643
Honestly, Yes and I despise SV, Champions is that bad
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>MEGA DIMENSIONS HELP ME AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>59142638
We have a year+ until WW they’re not doing all megas immediately
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Aegislash gets Poltergeist.
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what does GF do with all their money? like how could they actually sit around the exec table and be like hmmm if this game has the potential to be a huge hit let’s give it a 6.25 million dollar budget…
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>>59142463
>Breloom 1984
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MobileGODS get the full experience when it actually releases while switchKEKS get the pre-alpha 0.1 slop
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>>59142667
HUH
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>>59142629
freeze was notorious for being an instant kill status because it lasted until you hit the RNG thaw roll
first day playing competitive mons?
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this game feels like it was made entirely by AI.
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>>59142675
Mobilekeks will be missing all the battlepass exclusive mega stones.
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>>59142659
I wonder if TPCI will measure the success of this game by how many Switch players stay on SV ladder. Surely if the user counts are higher there for too long they get nervous.

It’s crazy to me they didn’t at least try for mon parity with SV.
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>>59142668
poketards have no standards
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>>59142643
I miss SV..
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>>59142677
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>>59142668
Why invest money on it when people will buy it and defend it anyway?
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What is with the disparity between all the new mega’s abilities?
You’ve got legitimately great ones like Golurk and Meganium mixed with trash like Skarmory and Meowstic.
And then there’s just plain missed opportunities like Chimecho.
Seriously what the fuck is going on
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>>59142463
>Keeps nerfing effects of cool strategy moves
>Keeps pumping up strong moves
They indeed know shit about balance
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>>59142682
>Stay with Terashit
I’m good nigga
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>>59142681
Isn't that stuff permanent?
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>>59142700
Levitate on a Steel-type isn't bad at all, it's about what I expected.
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I only listen to what my goat wolfey has to say
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>>59142701
They just want unga bunga hyper offense.
Why do you think VGC is doubles? Because it is le more deep? Le more strategic? No. It's because it makes the fight go faster.
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>>59142608
That's fucking gay and retarded
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What Were They THINKINNNNNNGGG
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>>59142705
Don’t get me wrong, it’s definitely good, but keeping Levitate is so damn boring.
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>>59142702
Tera is way better than megas ESPECIALLY in a format where the most potent offensive held items are banned so there’s no opportunity cost to consider when running a mega stone.

I swear they only did it to try and incentivize people to run multi-mega teams which is still not gonna catch on.
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>>59142701
>Sleep was balanced before
Nigger
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>>59142659
This, and considering how terrible all of these Mega abilities are I really wish we had Terastalize right now.
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>>59142715
Yup. Pick 4 doubles results in the fastest possible games that still allow you to have a Pokemon to switch to.
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>>59142719
Mega Beedrill got murdered
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Showdown Won
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>>59142710
He’s obliged to defend it since his career now relies on it, he’s not allowed to think it’s a hot fucking mess until 3 years from now when he can reflect on this time and say
>yeah that was a disaster

Because this objectively is bad.
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>>59142719
>NOOOOO ONLY BARACAT IS ALLOWED TO PIVOT
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>Sending a pokemon from Home still takes up space in the Home box
LMAOOOOOOOOO
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Unseen Fist got nerfed.
Works the same as Excadrlll's new ability.

By the way, what happened to the mega speed switch priority thing? Was it wrong after all?
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>>59142719
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>>59142719
>not restricting it to nearly only Bug types under the philosophy that a weak type should get strong moves to compensate
>just removing it entirely instead
Typical Game Freak ‘balancing’ moment
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>>59142719
Was it used often in doubles?
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>>59142731
>do literally fucking nothing
>win because the company with bajillions of dollars did worse than nothing
amazing
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is it true unseen fist was nerfed
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>>59142719
>lost Knock Off
>now this
somebody at Gamefreak FUCKING HATES Tony the Tiger
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>>59142719
Inceliroar..
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>>59142733
Flip turn is in he is making shit up
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>>59142735
>Unseen Fist got nerfed.
DESERVED
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Can Umbreon have parting shot now? I didn't see it in ZA...
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>>59142719
Evidently all pivoting attacks (flip turn, volt switch, even baton pass) are out
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>>59142743
It still has Parting Shot, they just limited everyone else's options, which sucks.
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>>59142743
>>59142745
you use parting shot not u-turn sillies
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Moonblast nerfed.
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the more i hear the worse it gets
what the actual fuck dude
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>>59142750
Yeah this is the only good change the game made and they did it in a format without Urshillfu so meh
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Golurk got Rage Fist too wtf someone had a boner for this thing here.

>>59142764
They nerfed the last important part.
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this is the duel links of pokemon, damn
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>start button is a hotkey for the starter pack bundle
kek they can't be serious
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>>59142769
The spattack drop was pretty obnoxious.
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>>59142773
You mean you haven’t bought it already?
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is there a list of movepool changes anywhere
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Greninja and Garchomp both lost Nasty Plot.
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>>59142738
Bug types can’t even fucking use it, name one bulky bug pivot.
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>>59142316
Pedo Freak is a small indie company anon
PLEASE
UNDERSTAND

>>59142365
doesn't item clause already prevent that?
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>>59142783
lol
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>>59142785
mega scizor?
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Salt Cure got nerfed to 1/16.

>>59142785
Scizor? Genesect?
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>>59142764
Do they actually think the problem with Moonblast was the SpAtk drops and not the ridiculous power.
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>>59142794
>salt cure nerf
WHAT THE FUCK NOOOOOOOO
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I hope it lost Parting Shot too.
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>>59142794
>Scizor? Genesect?
Genesect is a mythical, always banned. Scizor sure, but you didn’t need a good reason to choose Scizor over another mon, Scizor’s good. None of the bug types that “need the help” benefit from having U-Turn when Incin and Lando T lose it.
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>>59142756
Flip turn is in Palafin is one of the first mons you can pick and has it. U turn is probably in too
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>>59142794
Does it still do double damage to water and steel? Because that’s actually a bit more balanced if so, previously it was “curse but user doesn’t give up half their health lmao”

Actually did they nerf curse too? That’ll be hilarious
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Dire Claw nerfed to 30% proc rate.
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>Makes Status nerfs happen
>Makes moveset nerfs happen
>Does not make ability fixes
My Gengar...
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so everything got nerfed?
even weather wars?
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>>59142756
a fixed pick at the start of the game is a flip-turn palafin
you've resorted to making shit up
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>>59142803
jeets freaking out over everything
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>>59142719
LOLLLLL
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>>59142803
It didn't
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>>59142825
FUCKING FINALLY
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>>59142132
they aren't locked you can just buy them with VP
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>>59142650
>Can I buy VP or what
you cant
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mega meganium is so fun
meganium line gets the respect it deserves
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Is the game more balanced now?
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Salt cure ultra nerf KEK
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>>59142480
>>59142492
HOLY SHIT I DIDNT KNOW
BASED
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I knew it would be bad but it seems I will never fucking learn, they can ALWAYS do worse. Incompetence this extreme is so nonsensical it almost loops back into being impressive.

Honestly with how much they spent on this shit, couldn't they have just bought showdown and put microtransactions in it?
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>>59142884
they all laughed at mega emboar but little did they know just how bad things would get
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>>59142772
Duel Links was amazing until Sylvan and Cyber Angels, don't compare it to this trashfire
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AoE moves are nerfed
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switch 2 patch when? this shit is embarrasing
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WHERE THE FUCK IS MY WIDE LENS! I WANT ANSWERS!
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>>59142916
this has been in the game since gen 3 you fucking retard
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>>59142916
Anon...
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>>59142916
Nerfed to what? This is how they’ve always been in doubles
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>>59142916
Anon I.........................
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>>59142916
Spread moves have had nerfed damage when they hot multiple pokemon for a long time.
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Can they buff long reach so it does double damage against fliers?
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>>59142916
Fucking retard
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>>59142916
aw man now how will I beat the horde battles in champions
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>>59142525
NTA but switch 2 prices will likely increase at the rate the economy is going
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>>59142926
>>59142927
>>59142928
>>59142930
>>59142932
>>59142938
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>>59142956
WHAT FREE MON SHOULD I PICK???
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>>59142956
Its okay retard-kun, we all make mistakes sometimes
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>>59142959
MAUSHOLD
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Do you think these changes will improve the meta?

All I really want is more viable pokemons/not seeing the same teams over and over.
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>>59142198
>>59142211
I am legitimately surprised it didn't get stamina, shitting out guaranteed stone edges and high jump kicks isn't bad though
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>>59142977
I think it'll shift the meta a bit but not too much. Big changes to it? Not really.
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>>59142977
no
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>>59142965
From the tutorial
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>>59142980
>Make it more defensive
>It does not matter as it gets one shoted anyway
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What is a Pokemon's Battle Name, does that mean nicknames on or nicknames off?
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>>59142987
Pick Pikachu. None of your opponents will expect it.
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>>59142977
very doubtful. shit like leech seed and salt cure catching strays for no reason is utterly nonsensical and shows they have no idea what they're doing.
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I haven't played pokemon since gen fucking 7 but I wanted to give this game a try anyways
Which starting pokemon is the best one to pick
I'm thinking going for tyranitar since it seems like a good start for a super basic sandstorm team
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ARCHALUDON LOST BODY PRESS

AHAHHAHAAHAHAA
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>>59142963
I've been using them with the thought that they were fine since GEN 3
NOBODY TOLD ME
AAAAAAAAAAA
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>>59142996
>give it an ability it can make use of with 2 moves
>now it gets hit every time by hurricane, thunder, and blizzard
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>>59143018
They were actually weaker in gen 3 and got buffed in 4
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>>59142719
>>59142803
shittro and getting things wrong, who could've guessed
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>>59143003
TTar it is then
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Is Trick Room in the game? How many Pokemon in Champions have it?
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Who's Yuuske and why is he the only guy I'm getting in ranked
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So is the battle pass even worth it?
$10 for a 30 day season and leveling up is slow as shit.
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>boot it up
>wants my birthday for brackets
what the fuck man
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https://twitter.com/PokeMaineEvent/status/2041727772066750796
You can't select Fake Out at all if it's not the first turn.
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are the natures fixed on the starting lineup? they really screwed a lot of mons here.
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>no real way of getting free currency like TCG Pocket
yikes
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>>59142963
Tbh I didn't know either. The game never tells you.
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How do I give my pokemon mega stones? The box is so confusing
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>>59143117
It’s literally so easy to chance their stats and natures, just also make sure to use the tickets to pay when you recruit mons and not VP, since you need that for stats and items and everything else.
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The recruit Pokémon are trash. Not worth spending a dime on them. Do yourself a favor and just play the other games and bring those in.
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>no QoL for battles whatsoever (like animations and text playing at same time), same exact system
>they already have all the 3D models for every pokemon
>no story of any kind or ancillary features of any kind, just battling
>it somehow looks and runs like ass
HOW
HOW THE FUCK DO THEY KEEP DOONG THIS ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS MAKE IT LOOK GOOD EVERYTHING ELSE IS PORTED FROM THE MAINLINE GAMES
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>>59143084
no, not unless you really need harmony's outfit
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>>59143139
world's biggest franchise ever btw
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HOW THE FUCK DO YOU GIVE THEM MEGA STONES FUCK ILca
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>>59143139
anon they truly started development for this game like 3-4 months ago on a 1.5 million budget. i'm not even kidding they are stress testing the limit of how little effort they need to exert to see big ROIs.
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>>59143120
>>no real way of getting free currency like TCG Pocket
have you tried playing the game?
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>tfw playing on Switch 2
>it still runs like ass
Wtf
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>>59143150
L and R to scroll the item catagories dumb nigga
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>>59143150
The held item menu is dumb a fuck. you have to cycle left and right to find the mega stone tab.
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>>59143154
It runs at a stable 30fps 1080p, that's as good as it can look unless GF decides to stop being lazy cheapskates and make a dedicated switch 2 version
If you think that's ass then just play it on a switch 1 and watch it dip to the low 20s at a 720p resolution
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Is there any way to buy the battle pass without spending real money?

If I buy the battle pass do I earn enough credits or whatever to buy the next? Or is it real money every pass?

What's more worth it, the starter bundle or the battle pass?
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So all the Japanese names I'm playing against are bots, right?
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>>59143189
>If I buy the battle pass do I earn enough credits or whatever to buy the next? Or is it real money every pass?
real money
>What's more worth it, the starter bundle or the battle pass?
starter bundle, easily
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The process of moving pokemon from Home is annoying as shit. Also apparently you can't send a pokemon if you already have a copy in Champions.
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I bought mega stones but I don't see them for held items
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>No assault vest

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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I started the game, claimed prizes, did a second recruit to see what I get and I got shiny hisuian avalugg kek, bought it permanently, wonder how rare this shit is
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>>59143189
its a gacha game in terms of bp. its only ever real money
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If I'm from the bottom of new england do I set my region to USA -North or USA - East?
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>>59143178
The Switch 2 can do this at 1080p 60fps on Switch 2 Docked. It is shameful it looks like ass. Not even Pokemon Scarlet and Violet looks as bad on the Switch 2.
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>>59143200
press L or R. the item menu is trash.
>>
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I was excited for this game but I don’t think I’m even going to download it now
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Why is everyone acting like they designed completely new megas and won’t add them to Champions down the line? This is just the starting meta of a multi decade game
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whats so bad about it besides the missing pokemon and items
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>>59143232
>get shiny from recruitment
>it's the most dogshit mon in the game
RIP
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>>59143212
POKEMON CHAMPIONS IS A SWITCH 1 GAME
JUST BECAUSE YOU PLAY IT ON A SWITCH 2 DOESN'T MAGICALLY MAKE IT TO RUN AT A HIGHER FPS OR RESOLUTION THAN WHAT IT WAS PROGRAMMED AT
God you pokefaggots are fucking retarded as shit

SV looks and runs better on switch 2 BECAUSE IT GOT A DEDICATED SWITCH 2 UPGRADE. SV ON SWITCH 2 IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT VERSION THAN SV ON SWITCH 1 STUPID.

ONCE AGAIN UNLESS GF MAKES A DEDICATED SWITCH 2 VERSION OF CHAMPIONS, CHAMPIONS WILL ONLY RUN AT THE MAX SETTINGS OF THE SWITCH 1 NO MATTER IF YOU PLAY ON SWITCH 2.
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>>59143239
Meta is already solved. It's rain teams and Incineroar rolling over everything.
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>>59143239
Why would less customization be a good thing retard?
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>>59143239
Nothing I’m curb stomping nips with my HOME mons rn. Shit is fun and will only get better with free updates.
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>>59143242
whatever, wonder how rare it is
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Why won't home tell which pokemon I've chosen can't be sent to champions? They're not repeats and marked as in the game.
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>>59143259
regular rates
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>>59143235
People are retarded, or have never played competitive sword/shield or Scarlet/violet which changed what mons are playable based on rule regulations which changed periodically but also inconsistently.
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>>59143261
Small indie company very hard to code please understand
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>>59142719
No?
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>cant switch EVs again if you send your Pokemon back to Scarlet or ZA
retarded
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Seriously what keeps me from sending a pokemon over from Home? I'm trying to send a Sinistcha, Hisuian Samurott, and Kleavor and get the "one or more Pokemon have been selected that can't visit Pokemon Champions" message and have no clue why.
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Does anyone have a link to the NSP?

Since the cocksucking dataminers share the images of the Pokémon and items on a white background jpeg and not the original png files, I'll do it myself, but I need the NSP.
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>>59143312
Fuck off poorfag
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>>59143312
check the usual place dummy
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>>59143250
You're mad at the wrong people.
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>>59143323
Don't worry, I managed to get my hands on the PNG assets.

Also, poorfag for a free game?
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>game does the same thing as Pokemon Pocket where the lower ranks are basically 90% bots
Very cool
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>>59143250
Olay, but at the same time what’s the excuse for it not having being optimized for switch 2? Even the galaxy 1+2 ports supported 4k/1080p at launch and those are switch 1 games
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>>59143250
It says there's a free Switch 2 update here:

https://www.nintendo.com/my/news/article/292T7xpUbCEhA85BgE3MZy
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>>59143419
they don't want to scare little timmy by dropping him into 15 matches straight against mid life crisis millennials with their beefed HOME teams with proper synergy that has he no chance of winning against
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>>59143287
Huh? How does that work? Does it only instance the first time you sent them when you send a Pokemon from Home?
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>>59143448
The Champions version is basically a copy.
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>>59143448
Yes, it will keep what ever you had on it the first time you transfer. You are forced to spend VP to change anything
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>pokemon got masterduel'd/MTG arena instead of an actual sim
lol
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How do I know if I have the switch 2 version?
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>>59142394
Yeah? We basically knew about this. Were you guys shitposting because you assumed the Pokemon would just randomly change their moves, natures and abilities when being imported?
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>>59143462
there is no specific switch 2 version, just an update to look/run better apparently, but it's a download exclusive so you already have the latest update
maybe the switch 2 performance update isn't here at launch, probably cope
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>Battlepass has the MC costume
I don’t care about Harmony so I’m not gonna get it but I’m gonna have to slurp when they put out the Dawn costume…
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>nidorino vs gengar is literally the first battle of the entire franchise
>nidoking not in the game
>even if he was, no life orb
Fuck this gay earth
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>mega scovillain burns anything that even looks at it
I love this fucker
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any set ideas for toxapex in dubs? i WAS gonna run binding band infestation but guess thats not happening
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>japanese bots keep using solar beam
at least make it less noticeable game freak
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>recruited Gardevoir in a Lure Ball
I already had a Gardevoir but I still had to get one in a Lure Ball
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Does this game at least let your equip your ribbons/marks and have them say the little text blurb when you throw out your mon?
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>>59143732
yes
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>>59142112
it's probably done but they prefer to give an advantage to the console users
>>59143432
>>59143440
>there's
will provide*
The game doesn't consider switch 2 at all right now
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>>59142107
>>59142121
THIS FUCKING ASSHOLE FUCKED ME IN THE ASS WITH TRACE TWICE ALREADY



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