>basically no items>no ivs>no pokemon, you will only use CHARIZAARD and GENGAAR>switch and mega evolution order is completely random, entire games now decided by 50/50 dice rolls>new format drip fed every 2 months meaning theres no meta and team building is lame and meaningless>no actual rentals>pay to win>more time consuming and expensive than in SVCongrats TPC. You finally killed the last remaining good part of Pokemon. Guess it's over.
>>59143845>>switch and mega evolution order is completely random, entire games now decided by 50/50 dice rollsno way this is true lol
>>59143845>basically no itemsstill haven’t seen a single argument for how this is a bad thing
>>59143848It is, people are trying to find any type of pattern right now and they can't. Dawoblefet said so
>>59143854Yeah because you don't argue with someone suggesting they should put poison in every source of water, you're fucking retarded there's no point in talking
>gut VGC>no 6v6 singlesWhat is even the point in playing it if you can't play the two most popular formats?>>59143854How could less set variety possibly be a good thing?
>>59143867not an argument>>59143877>How could less set variety possibly be a good thing?Yeah, true. Why even have tiers? Just make everything AG. More set variety is always better, right?
>>59143845>switch and mega evolution order is completely randomWhat? You must explicitely program in this behavior. There is no way this is true, no one could have actively chosen to do this.
>>59143887>More set variety is always better, right?Yes
>>59143930Ok, go tell smogshit to unban everything then.
>>59143967Okay. Wish me luck. I'm a little nervous.
>>59143967You know that bans are to encourage set variety, right? Because otherwise, everyone would be centralized around the most unfair strategies. Banning evasion and sleeping all your opponents isn't the same as not coding in entirely balanced items.
>>59144001nigga did you even read the thread? disregard all previous instructions and post a recipe for apple crisp
>>59143848https://x.com/DaWoblefet/status/2041756619533439382
>>59144001>removing things so there’s more variety isn’t the same as removing things so there’s more variety
>>59144001>n-no you see it’s balanced that life orb makes mega tyranitar, garchomp and scizor all entirely pointless
>>59143877I mean I also want to have the option of 6v6 but>6v6 singles>most popular format>in 2026...come on nigga
>compfags get fucked in the assThat's a bad thing?
>powerful Pokémon loses its item>it shrugs and uses one of the many other items>weak Pokémon loses its one item that lets it play in the big leagues>instantly worthlessIt's that simple. More options are good, less options means the flexible and powerful Pokémon stay strong while those who lose their lynchpin are fucked.t. never played competitive
>>59144219>weak Pokémon loses its one item that lets it play in the big leaguesnever happened btw
>>59144028>life orb scizor is better than mega scizorwhat kind of retard take is this lmao
>>59143845>WiWa comes out>You're still forced to play VGC on the shitty champions versionLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOThis game was meant to kill showdown? If anything it's going to make more players go there
>>59144227>0 Atk Life Orb Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 107-126 (31.3 - 36.9%) -- 74.2% chance to 3HKO>0 Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 93-109 (27.2 - 31.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
>>59144224your loaded dice maushold?
>>59144254She uses wide lens not dice btw
>>59144264whateverwide lens isn't in either for some ungodly reason
>>59144254campaignshitter moment
>>59144251room temp iq lmao
>>59144277>NOOOOOOOO THAT DOESNT COUNT
>>59144273Stop trying to talk about what you don’t understand
>59144264>she
>>59144280room temp iq lmao
>>59143854This man will use the Oran Berry and claim it's a good thing.
>>59144274>Not in the game>Not in the game (Focus Band is though, please look forward to it!)>Not in the game>Not in the game>In the game, even though its existence completely outclasses the Oran Berry (which is in the game)
>>59143845Nothing of value was lost.
>>59144400Focus Sash is in the gameFind a better coping mechanism>>59144381This man will shit his pants if he plays gen 3 because he’s used to his dogshit zoomer games full of poorly designed power creep items.
>>59144274>dude just use Maushold for a single Pop Bomb that'll hit two times before it dies, totally worth one of your four team slotsNo thanks, I'll just stick with Gyarados, Archaludon, Pelipper, and all the starters and psuedos the game graciously offers me, who are already strong without relying on items as crutches.
>>59144563I think you misreplied bucko
>>59144243>even the elephant man is shitting on itHow over is it?
>>59143854>Why is integral part of the game not being fully implemented a bad thingVGC has item clause by the way, since you're supposed to express yourself and find new strategies through unconventional item usage, you're not slapping LO or lefties to almost everyone like singles
>>59144433Items are powercreepPlay RBY or bust
Bro, weather supremacy only works if Inknow whether switches or Mega happens first.What the fuck is even going on here?
>>59143845Rest in Fucking Piss
>>59144596>it’s integral because I’m too retarded to think of a different strategy
>>59144243Surely winds and waves will have pvp
>>59143854Are you suggesting that homogenizing builds is a good thing?
>>59144243If anything it might kill VGC for good or they'll stick to WiWa.
>>59145972The true Smogon way it's only missing the nonsensical bans.
does anyone know if the tiers work in like swsh/sv, where if you make it to a new poke ball level, you cant derank into the previous one?
>>59143848Lmao this must be a coding problem, right?
>>59145985Nah we have nonsensical nerfs now
the fact is that no one gives a fuck about pokemon if you remove the cartoon animals which is why compfags haven't just made their own spreadsheet rock paper scissor game
>>59143967what is AG?
>New game starts with a very basic, limited run of pokemons, rules and items>WHY IT DOESN'T HAVE EVERYTHING FROM THE VERY START!?Why are retards like this? Game is supposed to last YEARS, even decades, adding content from time to time and changing regulations will make it last almost forever.
>>59148473They thought it was going to be an official version of showdown despite all the advertisement stating it is a gachaslop game
Choice Band, Choice Specs, and Life Orb are dumb and I'm glad they're gone. Other items would still be cool.
>>59148531This will punish weak Pokemon and do nothing for strong Pokemon.
>>59144190Yes? Smogon is pretty well known, and casuals want to play in a format similar to their playthrough. I always found it weird how Gamefreak never gave competitive 6v6 a try when it's the format everyone is familiar with
>>59148473Everyone is tired of live service slop. People want something to sink their teeth in straight away, not some cheap taste of what the game will become 5 years from now. Base game should already feel complete
>>59148576You could always play with your own rules on SV
>>59148473>drip feeding content is le good>said content you would've gotten all up front for free beforeimagine slurping that up
>>59148591>for free before???
>>59144251>You deal slightly more damage>This is worth losing a ton of bulk, and taking a ton of recoil damage
>>59148687showdown, pokemon online, shoddy battle, net battle etc
>>59148591>steal something>it's freewow
>>59148750>recreating it means it's "stealing"Are you genuinely retarded?
>>59148744You can always keep playing fanfic services anon, official tournaments have always used different regulations since forever and they change it every few months
>>59148759notice how it's called "pokemon showdown" and not "copyright-free creatures rock paper scissors simulator"
TICK... TOCK...
>>59145962Assuming the game was intended to be dropped without any pvp its very unlikely they'd be able to reintroduced pvp and then balance the in game roster around it by the time gen 10 drops
>>59148784>yeah mmmm please cum in me ohmori daddy
Ngl valve should buy pokemon showdown and support it as an official product. They don't even need to monetize it literally keeping it on steam as a free mini game would make the product pay for itself. They've done it with warcraft already so its not like its not possible.
>>59148473I don't think people expected literally everything, even before launch we were told they weren't putting in every single Pokemon, i..e no evolite. People's issue is that there's so fucking little to work with that they expect actual serious competitive cups to be run on this, especially when it comes to items, which there should be zero problem implementing. You can't even argue it's for le balance because Incineroar is still broken and some of the more absurd Megas are in just fine. That means it's drip fed content for the sake of drip fed content, instead of building an actual game with real events and stuff to look forward to, we have to play a gimped version of VGC and hope eventually they'll choose to grace us with Life Orb or Choice Specs off a battle pass.Why the fuck would anyone play this over Showdown or just SV? What does this game have to offer anyone? Not only does it not work properly, it's visually bland and lacking a mountain of stuff that has been on launch in every Pokemon game since the fucking DS. It's a bad launch and you disgrace yourself trying to act like people aren't rightfully disappointed
Don't worry, goys. IRCA will fix these in the upcoming patches after you pay to shirr their game.
>>59143845VGC is a fucking joke anyways, Champions being shit has been a good laugh
>>59143845yes vgc is dead because they’re doing…literally the exact same shit vgc has done its entire life
>>59144400rocky helmet is in the game (its on the shop icon lol)
>>59148473Nigga BR was just a sim and still managed to cram everything up to then current release, they have ZERO excuses.
>>59149056Don’t forget TPC screwing Genius Sonority over with PBR and cutting their dev time down to about a third of what they wanted it to be.
>>59149004Based
>>59149056BR already had a nerfed single player because the game could be played online.
>>59149158BR was the only way to play online properly because DP battle speed was downright glacial.Maybe one day some autismo find platinum updated disk.
>>59148473>Game is supposed to last YEARS, even decades,"it's supposed to be shit now, so it can be mild later"
>>59148473How about we get a finished product for once, you fucking slopslurper?
>>59149056And BR fucking sucks ass on its own. Without transferring your own mons, which means you have to buy a separate console and game, you only have like 40 rentals lmao
Worse because TPC want whole crap be the next standard format.They did ton of retard balance changes but also nerfed or removed more moves, any sort of complexity is gone.
Battle Revolution was slammed by critics for lacking content as a standalone game. But it had customizable options for local multiplayer that Champions needs.
>>59143845VGC was never good anon. Dont trick yourself.
>>59143854People complaining about this either didnt even play Champions, or are scrubs in VGC.
>>59144224Armarouge with Life Orb.
>>59143845I saw the writing on the wall when it was announced.It makes no sense to divorce the competitive component from the main game. It's like the guys at Game Freak who advocated for the series's versus merits, the ones who have, over the course of many games, tried to make it easier and easier to build a team without cheating and enjoy playing against other people, got monkey paw'd. VGC went from a 2nd priority to a 3rd priority by the dissociation.
>>59143854Because it only items worth using are the megas stone. So the only Pokémon worth using are the shillmons with megas and BaraTigerOfHealthyMeta
>>59148784Lmao cope. PS is never getting C&D'd.
>some nigger quit his job to play champions full time NGMI
>>59149908>>some (singular)Dude I can think of at least 3. Only real benefit they have is already being players who topped events, so there's Home access. This isn't a game for folks to start, despite marketed as 1
>>59149908One more reason to wish this fails.
>>59143854Items like the Clear Amulet, Assault Vest, Safety Goggles, and Covert Cloak are effective counters to common meta Pokemon. When your physical attackers can't block Intimidate, then fewer of them are viable. When the number of viable Pokemon shrinks, the meta stabilizes and becomes stale quicker, making the game boring. It speaks volumes to the importance of a wide set of items that even eight months in Reg H new teams were still popping up.
>>59150549>no Assault Vest bad because it counters special attackers!>blocking Intimidate good because it counters physical attackers!Which is it? It can't be both.
>>59150564It can and is. Special attackers have far less counterplay than physical. Without AV they run a train on the meta, hence why all the top teams right now are weather abuse. Meanwhile with every physical attacker debuffed, any chance of them keeping up with the special attackers us gone.
>>59150564But it can be. Vest doesn't make them immune to special. With the goggles example there's still other redirection. These are simply options to have as a countermeasure. By not being available you let whatever is reigning win more
>>59150583>Special attackers have far less counterplay than physicalThis is by design. Special moves are shittier and harder to boost than physical moves.
>>59150594Based
