>free 150 BP fire move>it doesn’t immediately decrease in power when it touches a pebbleWhere were you when Meganium became a better fire type attacker than Typhlosion?
80 base speed means this shit will never be relevant
>>59143859kike freak is so despite do get people to like this industry plant
Is it actually 150 BP?
>>59143975100BP plus an extra 50BP from being in the sun
>>59143975Not op and I don’t care enough to check because I’m not getting crapions but shillmons like meganium are always broken as fuck so it almost certainly is 150bp
>>59143975Yeah. Check the calcs herehttps://x.com/hsinhsung9487/status/2041742983981363661If it were *only* the 100 BP fire weather ball, it couldn’t do 40% to Sylveon. Mega Sol gives it the type change and the sun boost at once.
>>59143859>gets OHKO'd by anything the turn it mega evolvesgg no re
>>59143993>thing has countersOh no.Anyway.Also life orb doesn't exist anymore.
>>59143993Nice. Very nice. Let's see a pokemon that's in the game.
>>59143993>0 Hp/ 0 Def Mega MeganiumThings that will never happen
>>59144067Kojo's the campaignshitter that he himself accuses everyone else of being.
>>59144015Mega zard and Gengar’s are in the game, stupid. They’ll be in every game. Meganium will still be oveepowered since it’s one of pedo freak’s favorite’s, but even shillganium has to kneel to CHARIZARD and Gengar.
Isn't Mega Charizard-Y RU or something? Why would you assume both will face each other?Either Mega-Meganium is OU and for some unknown reasons it will drag Mega-Charizard-Y into OU. Being lifted up because of one pokemon usually means it will not stay long there because of too many counters, pebbles, random Pelippers, whatnot.Or Mega-Meganium is too weak and Mega-Charizard-Y would be in the banlist of Mega-Meganium's tier making these damage calcs pointless.A third option would be not caring about tiers and play favorites. Then again Mega-Charizard-Y still has a low usage meaning the probability of encountering one is low.
>>59143859>Meganium gets free weather + built in stab>Other megas get complete and utter trash >Fucking stalwart skarmory, infiltrator chandelure, mold breaker emboarAfter years of bullying meganium's karma finally kicked inThe only good megas here are starmie, meganium, froslass, delphox and greninja...
>>59144475https://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/charizard/https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/charizard/Zard Y has been OU every gen megas have been in the game. Even in national dex it's one of the best megas thereIn national dex it's better than zard X now, there's a ton more mons like paradox who want sun and that's the best sun setter
>>59144475Champions doesn’t have tiers so shillganiun can’t hide from the ZARD
>>59143871In doubles where speed control is required? That's good enough.
>>59143859>Megasissies etting cocky when Typh doesn't even have a mega and is still probably gonna be more relevant
>>59143859>industry plant is better than the only starter that pedo freak hates Yawn, call me when you outclass shillzard or baratigerofhealthymeta
>>59144490I feel like only singlestons are bitching about Stalwart Skarmory. Stalwart is legitimately a great ability. The only reason you didn’t see it more was it was the signature ability of THE BRIDGE and it got Stamina which was just better for what it did.This is like people seething over Inner Focus Gallade
>>59143859>requires mence to not exist to even be remotely worth consideringhumiliation ritual
>>591445151. Skarmory sucks in doubles and doesn't do anything2. Only follow me users in this game right now are..>Clefable>Maushold3. Only rage powder users in the game right now are..>Volcarona>Sinistcha>Vivillion>ScovillainIt's so extremely pointless even in doubles. Skarmory would rather ohko an amoongus/brute bonnett with brave bird than ignore it's rage powder redirection anyway >252+ Atk Skarmory-Mega Brave Bird vs. 248 HP / 244+ Def Amoonguss: 414-488 (96 - 113.2%) -- 75% chance to OHKO>This is like people seething over Inner Focus GalladeThis was alright though. Gallade didn't have good abilities before sharpness. And mega medicham and kanga were fake out spamming everything even in singles. So it wasn't just for doubles shilling there. Stalwart is as useless as mega audino's healer for a mega. It's your MEGA, it shouldn't be that weak
>>59144515Stalwart isn’t bad in a vacuum, the issue is why waste a Mega stone on it. Inner focus M-Gallade is genuinely shitty since it would prefer to have inner focus before it mega evolved
>>59144495Weird I thought he was powercrept in some way and somewhere on smogon I read somebody how to easily counter by just switching in Pelipper who brings rain, tanks 60 BP solar beams and weak flamethrowers and so on.Maybe that was when Megas were first introduced long time ago.
>>59144561It learned weather ball since>252 SpA Charizard-Mega-Y Weather Ball (100 BP Water) vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Pelipper in Rain: 126-148 (39 - 45.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO>252 SpA Charizard-Mega-Y Fire Blast vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Pelipper in Rain: 69-81 (21.3 - 25%) -- 0.1% chance to 4HKOso even if they swap the weather you still do a ton more than with a fire move. also learned scorching sands for ground coverage
Has anyone tried to status a leaf guard mon with mega meganium yet? Does it fail as if sun was up?
>>59143987Useless conjecture the post
>>59145420>useless conjecture >it’s literally true Dumb pedo.
>>59144515>The only people complaining are people who wouldn’t get any use out of itWowzers
>>59145425>useless conjecture Yes. If you’re not even willing to be aware of what you’re talking about it’s useless conjecture.
>>59145438Why should I download this spyware and let pedophiles get access to my data just to test out if they made a shillmon broken when it’s already been proven true?
>>59143987>dont know dont care but yes
>>59143859>Where were you when Meganium became a better fire type attacker than [15th best fire attacker]
>>59143859>252 SpA Typhlosion-Hisui Eruption (150 BP) vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Abomasnow: 1056-1248 (275.7 - 325.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO>252+ SpA Meganium-Mega Weather Ball (100 BP Fire) vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Abomasnow in Sun: 884-1044 (230.8 - 272.5%) -- guaranteed OHKOCome again? Oh by the way, this shitter has to compete with Zard Y for its job>252 SpA Charizard-Mega-Y Weather Ball (100 BP Fire) vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Abomasnow in Sun: 1312-1548 (342.5 - 404.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO>worse wallbreaker than Typhlosion>worse bulky grass than Venusaurlmao, get humbled. Screen Setter.
>>59148151>ability: frisklmao, mega embort 0.0
>>59148168>only format with mega meganium doesnt have open team sheetsmight want that frisk now LMFAO
>>59148168doesn't invalidate his point at all btw
>>59148151Parroting is an admission of defeat.
>>59148151>Hyphlosion's lowest roll beats meganinum's highest even without the sun or a boosting nature or even a boosting item lol. And it seems even OG is still stronger under the same conditions>252 SpA Typhlosion Eruption (150 BP) vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Abomasnow: 988-1168 (257.9 - 304.9%) -- guaranteed OHKOgive it charcoal, since it can hold an item and its no contest>252 SpA Charcoal Typhlosion Eruption (150 BP) vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Abomasnow: 1188-1404 (310.1 - 366.5%) -- guaranteed OHKOand that's not even factoring flash fire which is easy to set up since this is doubles >>59148339coping is a greater admission of defeat
Meganium was always top tier. It just took most of you until now to realize it.
>>59144512>when Typh doesn't even have a mega and is still probably gonna be more relevantDo not use this pokemon with the intent of winning games.jpg
Meganium was always an industry plant. It just took losing the Johto penalty for shekel freak to remember that
>>59148151Oops, you stepped on a pebble, king, here you go252 SpA Typhlosion-Hisui Eruption (112 BP) vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Abomasnow: 784-928 (204.6 - 242.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>>59149799>stealth rocks in doubles Retard
>>59148000It’s more than Typhloshit only has one single niche, and now even the grass starter in its gen does that better.>>>59148151The difference is that Meganium can spam weather ball from start to finish. Typhloshit takes one priority hit or something from a faster attacker, and now eruption is doing chip damage.
>>59149814You’re right. In doubles it has to worry about fake out>b-but muh ghost type an-Kang is omnipresent still, and Champions players already figured out that you can just spend its first turn in base form with scrappy to fake out ghosts. Eruption is a meme.
>>59143859its Weather Ball even when maximized for damage can't even 2HKO Venusaur which is its main grass competition for that Mega slot, let alone comparing it to Charizard Y which is the definitive sun mega, it's fucking dogshit. Shiny new toys don't make the old ones magically not exist
>>59150622True, but OP is a tranny and a coward. She has to compare Meganium to one of if not thr only starter Pedo Freak hates. If she compared a pokemon with a mega with other pokemon with megas as you did, her argument gets broken faster then the hymens of the little girls Ohmori shoves insects into. Though for the sake of completeness I have to point out Megaium isn’t a Sun mega since the whole idea is that you don’t need to use it in the Sun, in fact it actively gets worse in the Sun since it takes more damage from fire
I reject the sanctity of Kanto.
