https://gist.github.com/kwsch/e34f3c32ebbcc9ccf84c65f9133cbe25Every Greninja is programmed in Pokémon Champions. I repeat, ALL Greninja forms are programmed. No, not just Battle Bond Greninja who transforms into Ash-Greninja in SM and USUM but only gets a stat boost in SV and Z-A, the Ash-Greninja form is programmed as well.>0658-00 is a regular Greninja>0658-01 is Battle Bond Greninja>0658-02 is Ash-Greninja (the form Battle Bond Greninja adopts)>0658-03 is Mega Greninja (the form any untransformed Greninja can adopt)
>>59144184YawnWhen are we getting Liko-Meowscarada?
>>59144192Never.
>>59144192Who cares about that hole and its furbait mon?
>>59144232>Who cares about that holeadult men
So you are telling me some formats will have you wondering if you are facing a Protean Greninja, an Ash Greninja or a Mega Greninja.
>>59144497Imagine the mindgames. Now try and factor terasharting into that mess.
>>59144184Anon IDK what that github contains but the first pokemon on the list is Bulbasaur so I know it isn’t “mons programmed into Champions”
>>59144553Their data exists in Champions anon, that's from Kurt a reliable leaker that has been doing this shit for years. Champions doesn't have most of those pokemon models and other things, but their stats and other numerical data is present.
>>59144184Just like every other form.
>>59144184Watch it being limited to meme gen 7 throwback format
>>59144260>adult menSo no one important
>>59144598Oh, well who cares then? That’s just an import of whatever master database exists for all pokemon forms on some GameFreak server. If there’s no model data there’s no indication of intent to ever include it, it won’t be deleted as long as some current piece of software (e.g. Home) can ever make reference to it. This is like finding Eternal Flower Floette in game data for years before it ever appeared (in PLZA)
>>59144634>>59144605For the record, Z-A DIDN'T have Ash-Greninja like that, but Champions does
https://x.com/kaphotics/status/2041785263806914835Only other semi interesting thing
>>59144665Did Z-A include ghost data for every mon/form in the game, even ones it didn’t include? Because Z-A has no use for the Master Database as its battle system is completely distinct from mainline.
>>59144184They retconned him from the anime itself, so no way they're bringing him back again now.
>>59144698Greninja had dummy data for Ash Greninja even though it wasn't in the game. Both forms of Ash Greninja including the base with battle bond. Same with all the Pikachu with hats. They just have to add that stuff to every game even if it doesn't get used.
Ashbros, OUR HERO is still alive!
>>59144711False, Ash Greninja didn't have that data, I know because I remember checking the updated datamine for the DLC precisely to see if they would include Ash Greninja as an alternative mega for Greninja.
>>59144746Autism, of the terminal variety
>>59144746You're right. I misremembered. I was only half right since they do include the data for the base Ash Greninja with battle bond. Also I was wrong about the hat Pikachu.
>>59144184Can the Battle Bond one mega evolve?
>>59144763That's the thing Battle Bond Greninja is in gen 9 already, just without Ash Greninja form, Champions is the odd one by having both Battle Bond AND its transformation.
>>59144184>No, not just Battle Bond Greninja who transforms into Ash-Greninja in SM and USUM but only gets a stat boost in SV and Z-A, the Ash-Greninja form is programmed as well. Ok? Like what was Battle-bond Greninja supposed to transform to if Ash-Greninja weren't in the game?
>>59145079Battle Bond got reworked in Gen 9 to provide a stat boost on KO (basically worse beast boost) rather than trigger a form change.
>>59145098Ok ok my bad. Let me rephrase that. Isn't it easier to say, "Ash Greninja is back" instead of writing all that ?
>>59144184Considering that Champions is pretty stereotypical gacha?Ash-Greninja will probably be released in some big seasonal gacha.I kind of envy Blue Archive, they know beforehand what will be in weekly gacha rotation thanks to EN and KR servers being few months behind JP (and China being like year behind EN and KR lmao)
>>59144836I've seen a paldean on twitter post his Bond Greninja in Z-A and it mega evolves normally
>>59144497And they'll never run the shiny to make the guessing game easier
>Tera Water Ash-Greninja holding Choice Specs
>>59145310Oh yeah this means Battle Bond Greninja can use all gimmicks except Primal Reversion and Ultra Burst>can go mega>can go Ash form>can go Ash form and use a Z crystal>can go Ash form and dynamax>can go Ash form and terastalize>only two of these options require specific held items
That is Pokémon HOME data not Champions data
>>59145610>HOME master data update for Champions: personal>"for Champions"Literally the first line
>>59144192Would>>59144682>type limit is differentwhat does that mean?if you have two megas they have to share a type?
>>59145586They really ought to make the hat an item and making it be a held thing for ash hat pikachu and ash greninja.
