>heh [Mega] will be shit because it’s just worse than using the base form with Life Orb or Choice Band>NOOOOOOO WHAT DO YOU MEAN LIFE ORB AND CHOICE BAND AREN’T IN THE GAME FUCKING GAME FREAK THIS SUCKS!!!!
Classic GameFreak.Don't improve, just remove!
A little tip, if you need to use caps or write like tHiS to make up a strawman in order to defend your argument, you're the actual retard in the room
>>59146056Lmao bodied those freaks
>>59146056>Mega Skarmory is still worse than normal Skarmory even with the item cutsK W A B O T Y
>>59146067>Don't improve, just improve!
>>59146056252+ Atk Charcoal Reckless Emboar Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 298-352 (87.3 - 103.2%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO252+ Atk Reckless Emboar Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 249-294 (73 - 86.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO252+ Atk Emboar-Mega Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 237-280 (69.5 - 82.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO>Mega is literally worse than Charcoal (which is in the game)>MEGA IS LITERALLY WORSE THAN HAVING NO ITEM ON THE ORIGINALYour response?
>WHY ME NO HAVE THE WIN THE GAME BUTTON !!!!! ME UNGA BUNGA ME NEED TO LEARN THE GAME?! NOOOOOOOO ME NO HAPPY!!!!Meanwhile this thing can Swords Dance and unlike SHITdactyl, it learns GREAT STAB and coverage moves.
>>59146091Embort was designed to flop unlike mega skarmory
>>59146102every time this thing the design get worse. what’s the opposite of "it grew on me"?
>>59146091DELETE CHARCOAL RIGHT NOW
>>59146085>Be 5’4”>Friend is 6’2”>Remove his legs>Friend is now 4’10”>You’re still 5’4”
>>59146143>food analogy
>>59146091y-you can use scald on vaporeon! can regular emboar do THAT?
>>59146143Charizard bros.
>>59146143you forgot the part where friend is rich and successful and can afford prosthetic limbs so he's still taller
>>59146143>6 ft 2 to 4 ft 10>this friend's legs were only 1 ft 4 inches longI've heard of top heavy but this is fucking crazy.
>>59146189come on man don't be mean
Smogon never banned half the items in the game...
>Pokemon "competitive" boils down on who can oneshot the other one first
>>59146143>tie his legs to an shorter person so everyone is "equal"libtards...
>>59146067>removing poorly balanced elements from the game is not improvementPlay other videogames please.
>>59146696Ever heard of a nerf li'l bro? I know Pokemon rarely ever does such a thing but surely you've played at least one game that does it!
>>59146721The most recent Guilty Gear Strive patch removed an entire mechanic. There are multiple ways to balance a videogame but I'm expecting too much from the kind of third worlder that unironically uses "li'l bro" and is too poor to afford more than Pokemon.
>>59146758>half the items in the game were poorly designed and should be removedAre you genuinely okay?
>>59146818>choice items and life orb and weakness policy are poorly designed and should be removedCorrect.Most items added post-gen 3 were massive mistakes.
>>59146818no he's right we need to start removing abilities nextand while we're at it delete all the megas because they're way too overcentralizingdon't bother bringing teras or dmax back they're too powerful and confusing for new playersthen cut EVs because all they do is encourage minmaxxing
>>59146091Different roles. Ones a really shitty wall breaker while the other is a really shitty bulk up setup sweeper
>>59146830So true.At least they already gutted the roster. I mean, how was I supposed to remember more than 100 of these fuckers?
>>59146818Life Orb indeed contributed to a lot of powercreep and invalidated a lot of items in the game. Gen 3's meta is very adored and all it introduced was the Choice Band, which was a little ok because there are more ways to shut down a physical attacker. Life Orb is cheap, the health decrease is nothing, it let sweepers sweep even harder. With Life Orb gone there's an actual niche for moves that boost type damage like Magnet.Pokemon discourse is so bad because you idiots somehow convinced yourselves that removing something is automatically bad.
>>59146056Im sure those things will be added eventually
>>59146966Yup they just removed Life Orb and nothing else. Yes siree.
>>59146071tpbp
>>59147058>pretending to be retarded nowKek
>>59146966>>59146758I agree with you heavily that Life Orb and a lot of other things introduced in Gen 4 were broken as fuck and tilted the game to being horribly unbalanced, that's very very true. However, Champions did not "remove" Life Orb for "balance", they cut it so they can stick it in a Battle Pass or make people spend VP on it later. If they put Life Orb in and nerfed it and people got mad, you'd be correct, but as things are now, they're just withholding the broken shit so people spend resources on it later, likely same with specific Pokemon or Mega Stones or what have you.This reminds me of the exact same excuse people had when Dexit first happened, that they shaved the dex down for comp balance, only for them to shove competitive mainstays and viciously overpowered new legendaries in SWSH's DLCs immediately after.Gamefreak/TCPI do not understand, nor give a shit about balance, they know people are gonna buy the game anyways, they're just trying to cash out on their existing audience, the actual gameplay be damned. When the next battle pass comes out and Life Orb is back completely unchanged, what will you say then?
>>59147376>When the next battle pass comes out and Life Orb is back completely unchanged, what will you say then?I'd be disappointed, but at least we were able to see how things played out without certain mechanics, kind of like how people like pre-bank XY.
>>59146830Just remove everything except Charizard and make it so its only move is Flamethrower, desuNo crits, no speed ties, no damage rolls, no megas, both zards attack simultaneously and then simultaneously KO each other and every match is a drawNo more winners, no more losers, only Charizard
>>59147529That sounds fucking awesome.
>>59146758>>59146966You wanna talk about removing something? How about we remove Leech Seed from Calyrex because it alone was abusing the move to great extents instead of nerfing the entire mechanic because fuck you so now nobody is going to even bother using it and completely killing off the move as a whole instead of going after items that are perfectly manageable with item clause. Removing items was not the fucking play and you know it.
>>59147608Ah yes, the Mega Salamence balance factor
>>59147608That would require admitting that the DLC Legendary designed to push DLC sales was, in fact, made overpowered on purpose, so no, GameFreak will NOT do that.Instead they'll nerf any associated, widespread moves, abilities or mechanics, or make those things widespread, so they can say it was for "general balancing" rather than "yeah we needed to nerf the dickings out of Urshifu/Calyrex, they can't stay in the limelight forever otherwise we can't con the saps into buying the Winds & Waves DLC", which is why they gave Golurk Unseen Fist and Excadrill an Unseen Fist expy so they could nerf Urshifu without directly admitting it, WITHOUT nerfing Surging Strikes and Wicked Blow, which comparatively WOULD be admissions of direct nerf unless they gave those moves to other mons.Nerfing Leech Seed's sapping and Protect's PP was genuinely all they COULD do for Calyrex because its most powerful attributes are a hyper-specific signature ability that relies on the context of Spectrier and Glastrier, and the signature moves that becoming Shadow/Ice Rider Calyrex grants.
>>59147608Maybe you should bow before the King of the Harvest. Put some respect on the name that rules your game.
>>59147608I do wish the balancing of pokemon was done a bit better with items specifically there's not really a whole lot you can do. You can lower Life Orb's damage or drastically increase the life drain but both ideas make it irrelevant anyway, might as well delete it.Pokemon balance changes are all over the place. Talonflame and Darkrai get kneecapped but Leech Seed is a nerf everyone must shoulder. Ideally Gamefreak wouldn't be afraid to take a Pokemon and radically change up its stats but it is what it is.
>>59146056the people screeching about the limited pokemon and item selection are brainlets who don’t actually play comp
>>59147710is life orb even that strong? I thought dice was much more powerful
>>59147745I'm just using it as an example. The items in the game currently aren't that strong overall.
>>59146119I think if it lost the legs it'd actually be a pretty kino Mega. Maybe give it tiny T-Rex arms to compensate.
>>59146818He's right. The vast majority of items were balanced around the really shitty ones. Starting with a small loadout of "safe" items and slowly introducing small waves of items to see which ones should stay is a good way to go about culling them.
>>59147745FairlyThe main problem is that 30 kind of is the minimum for an offense boost to matter.10 is the difference between a good roll and a bad roll, 20 is noticeable but rarely actually matters. 30 is kind of the point where you actually do start getting new breakpoints and threaten new things.It isn't really that Life Orb is THAT good, it's more that getting 30% means you're picking a choice item or Life Orb, and Life Orb lets you switch moves. If there were more items that also sat at 30% it would be less centralizing
