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Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch with a mobile release later. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.

>News
Warm Up Challenge online competition registration open, battles this weekend, Gardevoir gift
Free Machamp mystery gift code: CHAMP10N
Season 1 runs until May 13
Mobile release possibly leaked for June

>Links
https://champions.pokemon.com/en-us/
https://x.com/Pokemon_Champs (EN) https://x.com/Poke_Champ_jp (JP)
Pokémon data: Dex: https://serebii.net/pokedex-champions/
Available mons: https://www.serebii.net/pokemonchampions/pokemon.shtml
Mega abilities: https://serebii.net/pokemonchampions/megaabilities.shtml

Quick FAQ
>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?
No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.
>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?
All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.
>Is there single player content?
No.
>What battle gimmicks are in?
Only megas for now.
>What's the starter pack?
US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 quick coupons, 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music.
>Is anything locked behind a paywall?
So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Mega Kalos starters and E-Floette require ZA transfer.
>Is the Switch 2 version enhanced?
An update is confirmed but isn't in at launch

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So how exactly is the mega order determined and is it possible for megas to happen BEFORE switches occur?
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>>59146613
christ you are one stupid nigger
is this your first time playing pokemon? give me your best theory and I’ll tell you if it’s correct
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>>59146604
Does this have different checks for hacked Pokemon?
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does anyone know if the tiers work in like swsh/sv, where if you make it to a new poke ball level, you cant derank into the previous one?
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Why is she so smug?
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>>59146625
Well it seems like the order for megas alone isn't determined by speed so you could have a situation where Ttar megas first before a Zard Y for example.
I thought this would have been fixed from the prePAX build, but I have to contend with retarded niggers like you who don't know better and can't provide a straight fucking answer.
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Spoonfeed me a team build around Alolan Ninetails and Mega Frosslass. Haven't played Pokemon since Sw/Sh. I plan to play doubles exclusively.
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>>59146630
about to derank from great ball if I lose this match and I have a good feeling I will so I’ll tell you soon
great ball has too many vgc team copycats. Seen the same ones like a bunch of times in a row
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>>59146638
Nice menu screen character
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>>59146638
She breeds with the Tauros.
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>>59146650
i started playing this afternoon and going from poke to great was like night and day. poke is just bots and/or children everywhere whereas the second you hit great everyone is just running the same rain and sun cores
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why are people hating on this game so hard? i like the small starting roster and item pool because the game is clearly made to ease new players into the world of competitive pokemon. did people really expect it to have every single pokemon and item in the game on day 1?
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>>59146672
Just the items, they've made a lot of team archetypes unviable and buffed fake out tremendously again.
This shit sucks.
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>>59146662
nah, shes built for mudsdale cock
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Well lads. Is he wrong?
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>>59146672
>did people really expect it to have every single pokemon and item in the game on day 1?
Yes, but mainly because Poketuber shills gave that impression. Also Smogonfags.
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>>59146638
She wants you to prep the bvlls
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Why show Dozo if you were going to leave him in jail?
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What are these affinity tickets about?
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>>59146575
The best part is that I can put my old mons to use. I finally had a reason to transfer my the Dragonite I had sitting in GO since like 2017. It's also nice to get mileage from my H. Decidueye, given I didn't even finish PLA.
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>>59146682
They shouldn't market Champions as the VGC centered game if they're taking the drip feed approach to it. I don't mind, personally. It's just a different game with a slowly changing meta every now and then, but people aren't wrong for being upset.
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>>59146682
Yes.
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>>59146690
Why show any of these items if they're not in the game?
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>>59146683
The Pokemon Company themselves gave this impression from the first fucking trailer.
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haven't played a mainline game in like 15+ years. i'm torn between getting either scarlet/violet or legends za. my main priority is getting pokemon for champions, but obviously i want to have fun with the game too. i heard SV is better for catching pokemon for champions, but the gameplay of ZA looks more fun to me. would i be missing out on a lot of pokemon if i get ZA instead of SV?
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>>59146671
yeah I’m tired of seeing pelipper
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>>59146703
But the Poketubers had early access and could have said at any time it wasn't what we were expecting. They didn't, though, because anything that can be perceived as negative would harm their ability to gain free press.
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>Incineroar loses Knock Off
;_;
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>>59146711
Of the current pool of Pokemon, ZA gives you almost everything good.
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>>59146714
And who was mandating they keep quiet? Who wined and dined them?
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>>59146719
It's not enough. Apparently it lost U-turn as well. Give U-turn to Hitmontop when he gets out of jail pls.
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>>59146711
You can obtain all of ZA's best mons in SV.
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>>59146719
The poor little baby, I'm sure no one will play it now.
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>>59146727
Stop sucking cock, faggot. In a just world filled with moral people these shills would be ridiculed and excommunicated for misleading their audience.
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>>59146711
Just get both, they're both fun in their own way. The highlight in SV for me was roaming around (sort of) freely, and the Kitakami DLC. In ZA it was the characters and battle system. If you do get ZA, keep in mind it's structured differently from the regular mainline games and is better played in small sessions.
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This game would be way more interesting if it had rotating formats or battle events. Imagine a Not Fully Evolved or Monotype ladder.
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>>59146714
>>59146727
No sometimes it’s part of the agreement that you can’t review the game if they give you access early
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>>59146719
Parting shot is still making him an annoyance.
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Using Destiny Bond is cheating.
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>>59146755
>"I was told that I couldn't review the game in detail, so I declined their offer for early access and encourage you all to take any news about the game with a grain of salt."
Holy shit! Wow! It's so hard to be a good person isn't it!
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>>59146699
>They shouldn't market Champions as the VGC centered game if they're taking the drip feed approach to it
That is literally how VGC works
>start with weaker Pokemon
>slowly introduce stronger ones
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this game is 100% a tool to get people to buy Sc/Vi and ZA for easier pokemon acquisition. This is advanced psyop.
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>>59146604
Some of these players are bots. Game gives you a random team and enough VP to change them up to your battle style. Haven’t transferred anything over yet.
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Help me make Ariados viable bros, preferably for a support role
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>>59146711
ZA gameplay is dogshit.
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>>59146789
this, i dont understand people complaining that not all mons are in. that hasnt been the case since usum kek. the item selection is pretty pitiful and thats a fair complaint but if you were expecting to have the full natdex day 1 thats on you for being retarded
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>>59146808
>This is advanced psyop.
We call that basic marketing.
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Is there a compiled list of balance changes yet? All I know is

>paralysis chance to 1/8
>sleep cut by 1 turn
>Claw moves counting as slicing
>Moonblast effect to 10%
>Dire Claw effect to 30%
>Iron Head flinch to 20%
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>>59146819
It really is, shallow garbage with a degenerate meta that focuses the immutable movement speed and the ability to boost to get 1hkos.
It was fine for a side show, but I was over it before the game ended, nevermind doing the infinite Royale 15 times. Which still sounds like a playground rumor.
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garbage game
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>>59146711
ZA is literally braindead, the real time action somehow manages to be even dumber than mashing A with your overleveled starter and the whole setting is just a single uninteresting city
SV is actually good if you have switch 2
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Only game I've got in the Switch era was ZA, which ended up being boring as shit. What are the best Pokemon I can transfer over from it?
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>>59146825
freeze has changed (guaranteed thaw after three turns i think) and theres apparently stuff with encore too. keeps the priority bracket of the move youre encored into and if the move changes there a random component now?
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>>59146836
That seems to be where most mons have come from.
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>>59146819
It's only bad if you binge it becaused it's broken into missions. They clearly designed it with the average player in mind, not 4chan autists.
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Why aren't they changing freeze to frostbite?
I don't see a single downside to this
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>>59146626
this passes through home
have a guess
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>>59146843
>if the move changes there's a random component now
What?
How does the move change once encored? What's random?
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>>59146836
Gyarados
Starmie
Gengar
Excadrill
Garchomp
Venusaur
Charizard
Froslass
Tyranitar
Greninja
Rotom
Milotic

I'm probably missing some but quickly glancing at the ZA dex at least these can probably be used in serious teams.
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>>59146844
Really? Not really a comp player, so I can't tell what exactly are the best picks. Especially now with all the powercreep. Hell, even Garchomp seems a bit outdated it both singles and doubles.
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>>59146847
It feels like a slog otherwise.
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>>59146711
You're going to be missing some shit either way, but ZA is probably the best one to get initially since that will let you get all of the Megas

Both ZA and SV have tons of mons so that's not an issue
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>Few hours of playing
>Already halfway done through my battlepass
I don't mind getting stuff fast but isn't this suppose to last for like 2 months?
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So do you get different free mons based on the tutorial recuitment you chose? I chose Charizard and these were the mons I got, it worked out for me since Gengar and Whimsicott were two of the ones I wanted on my team.
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>>59146910
2 months? It's says 31 days.
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>>59146886
>target mon executes move (say moonblast)
>turn ends
>you click encore intending to lock them into moonblast
>target mon executes new move before encore goes out (eg. priority move)
>encore comes out
apparently in this situation (different move coming out before encore) the move the target is encored into is random. unsure if random between the first and second moves seen or random between all 4 of the target's moves
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>>59146862
>why aren’t they making ice types worse?
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>>59146918
Sounds like a bug doesn't it?
I think I get what you're saying.
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>>59146625
mega evolution order is entirely different in this game, it doesn't work like it did in the 3ds games
nobody knows how it works in champions yet
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>>59146604
>How do we top Dexit
>Less Mons than Pokemon Stadium 2
Lol, LMFAO even
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>>59146927
>Sounds like a bug doesn't it?
probably
i havent seen this myself, just passing on what i saw on xitter, so take it with a grain of salt
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>>59146913
>So do you get different free mons based on the tutorial recuitment you chose?
Looks like it yes. I picked Super Dolphin and I got Sylveon, Hydreigon, Aggron, Gengar and Beedrill.
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>>59146917
Oh I thought it last through the whole regulation. I guess it makes sense why you get shit fasat.
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>>59146672
people spent about a year under the impression the game was going to be comparable to vgc as it existed in sv
even ignoring obvious cuts like restricted mons and paradoxes people assumed there'd be way more stuff to use than there is right now
honestly if not for the item cuts i don't think you'd be seeing even half as much whining as there is right now
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>>59146931
Wow, your life sucks ass.
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>>59146638
why is this character allowed to be attractive but every other character looks like shit?
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>>59146948
>Why make the gacha lady attractive
I dunno anon
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>>59146946
it's gotten a lot better since I deleted this trash
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>>59146913
https://game8.co/games/Pokemon-Champions/archives/592056

these have the teams per starter, which starter did everyone pick. I went ttar team
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>>59146954
usually in gacha games all the characters are attractive not just one
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>>59146672
>>59146683
It wasn't unreasonable to not be too limited compared to SV. Champions even failed on that front
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they should've went all in and made pokemon only obtainable through the gacha ingame. wouldve made a billion bucks ez
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>>59146815
i built one for a mono poison team for shits and giggles so i would hesitate to call the following viable but here's what i came up with
sticky web is funny in theory but it's way too slow to use it effectively outside of trick room, where you don't want the opponents to be getting slower
i went with struggle bug, knock off, toxic spikes and rage powder holding a sash
spread is a really simple max hp max and insomnia lets you eat up sleep moves risk free
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>>59146913
Yeah, the guy says
>you can use these from my box, but you’ll have to get your own
And then just gives you 5 Pokémon I guess???

They’re not rentals, they’re permanent, they’re in your box, his box isn’t a thing..

So I guess they’re ours now?
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>>59146959
I took Lucario just because he has priority and a solid enough mega for cleaning up the early ranks.
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>>59146714
All the Poketubers mentioned that the item pool was very limited, but they coped about it and said shit like "the good items will probably be in an item shop or something idk" "I would be SHOCKED if these items aren't in"

They got bamboozled just as much as everyone else
https://youtu.be/ezv1TyAodrs?t=582
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>>59146638
>>59146948
Disgusting shading
Masters released 6.5 years ago and looks better
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>>59146973
His wording was a bit weird, the first thing I did was check my box to see if they had any indication of being temps.
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I had a lot of irl friends who were really excited for this game, mainly cus a lot of them had played pokemon go on and off for years and having an official battle sim to use their pokemon in and battle eachother sounded awesome. mind you these are high earning adults with money to throw around and almost definitely would've thrown 20 bucks at some gay cosmetics. but after a few of them downloaded it and saw that they cant use any of their favorite pokemon, and honestly that it looked worse on the switch than it did on their phones, the entire plan fell apart. what was supposed to be a cool pokemon night with my friends is now just doing something else.
is this something that gamefreak is accounting for? is going purely low budget low effort with the sole purpose to milk nostalgia bucks truly the smartest play for profits? wouldn't putting some care into a decent quality game that could retain normies and adults who actually have a lot of money be worth it for them? I mean as it stands this game is for nobody. I'm truly baffled.
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>>59146672
I’m so glad the roster is what it is, all the fags complaining are just mad they can’t import their uglymaxxed overpowered myth tho as like tornadus and the other one and shit up the game.
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whats some good lead's for singles?
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>>59146931
>Less Mons than Pokemon Stadium 2
if you count the shitty nfes that don't do anything, sure
champions only has one shitty nfe that doesn't do anything and that's if you don't feel like spending a thousand vp on a light ball
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>>59146672
the game is shit
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guys, you can get a free machamp with the code "CHAMP10N" through the ingame mystery box feature
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>>59146983
Reg H wasn't that long ago, you're just a faggot who can't understand that these limited items severely limit the number of teams/mons that are viable.
The roster being small doesn't matter, but lack of items sucks.
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>>59146982
They're trying milk tourneyfags and metafags.
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the game is shit because pokemon is shit, not because it isn't an official showdown fork
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>>59146982
people often mistake the quality of pokemon products to be the result of calculated scheming for optimizing profit by nintendo. this is only 20% true. the full truth is that the pokemon company is simply an inept game studio (including their partner studios). the games suck because they don't have the ability to make good games.
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>>59146825
People are still figuring shit out.
Some other stuff
>Trop Kick is 85 bp from 70
>First Impression is 100 bp from 90
>Crab Hammer is 95 acc from 90
>Toxic Thread lowers speed 2 stages from 1
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>>59146711
SV feels like an adventure and I lowkey have fun just flying around the ride Pokémon and climbing mountains and gliding off, the progression is also fun with gyms, the team rocket equivalent bases, and Alpha Pokémon battles being spread around, and one of them for each type, so it’s like a gym for every type.
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>>59146944
We knew Champions wasn't going to launch into a restricted format, let alone double restricted or even a Reg F where sub-legendaries are allowed.
This game struggles from not having enough items.
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>>59147004
>Toxic Thread lowers speed 2 stages from 1
Ariados meta frfr
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>>59146672
>did people really expect it to have every single pokemon and item in the game on day 1?
I absolutely expected at least half of the full dex, and at the very least all of the fan favorites like metagross ffs. and yes I 100% expected every item, there aren't even that many you fucking retard.
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So for the uninitiated in all things gacha
>every month, you can raise your BP level via battling for goodies
>buying the battle pass will unlock more rewards but you'll still need to grind them out
>for this period, meganium and its mega stone can be collected around level 25 while Emboar and Feralgatr set are locked behind BP but you still can get their mega stones in Shop
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>>59146999
Based
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>>59146982
My theory is that TCPI has a George Lucas-esque stance that pokemon, at its heart, will always be a kids game first and all development will be based around getting kids to play the game. They see mega victreebel's ability as a funny gag, and don't care about comp implications. Even if champions is meant to be a contamination game for millenials, they still don't develop for the sake of competition, they do it to get kids into buying more pokemon merch.
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>>59147004
Forgot to mention, Fake Out cannot be selected after its first turn is up.
If a mon is encore'd into fake out, it goes for Struggle.
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>>59146971
>max hp max
max spdef
>>59147007
>We knew Champions wasn't going to launch into a restricted format
yeah i know that's why i said that in the post you're replying to
they also showed off guys like indeedee and dondozo in marketing for the game before launch, though, and they're not in the game yet
hence why i said people expected there would be more pokemon than there are
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>>59146984
Hippowdon
Garchomp
Archaludon
Glimmora
Sneasler
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>>59146981
Did the rotom brain chip say “izzat” around then? I was skipping thru too fast but swear I saw that.

>>59146997
Only item that should be in store that isn’t is Rockey helmet since it’s on the icon for the store. (No, that doesn’t mean that dondozo and tatsugiri should be in the game because they were in a video somewhere)
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>playing singles
No greater mark of a low IQ
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>>59147014
if that were the case then this was like the worst possible way to launch a game like this. most people don't get to use their favorite pokemon, it's just a distilled meta of autism and bullshit. like i said, this game is for nobody.
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>>59147014
well george was correct
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>>59147030
>playing pokemon
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pokemon always finds a way to fail to meet their already incredibly low expectations. i'm not even mad anymore, i'm just finally not gonna bother playing.
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>>59146982
>friends
Fake story meant to magnify one anons displeasure by asserting that “so many people” also agree with him.

Having a new meta is cool, there are pleantiful lovable mons in the game, if you don’t enjoy the process of playing and discovering a new meta, then you don’t like Pokémon.
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>>59147027
Life Orb
Assault Vest
Choice Band
Covert Cloak
Clear Amulet
Etc
These should all be in the game and their omission isn't for the benefit of the meta. It's actively making counterplay to threats more difficult.
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>>59147035
>most people don't get to use their favorite pokemon
all of these are in the game
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>>59147030
I'm a shitter, deal with it.
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>>59147047
You bothered to post a shitty image instead of walking away to play showdown
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>>59147049
>i don't have friends so nobody does
yeesh, i guess this game is for somebody after all
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>>59147056
Showdown won
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>>59147021
thanks
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can you get pokemon you already own in the recruitment?
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>>59147056
I'm not gonna play either, I'm just gonna talk about how I think this game sucks for a little longer and then get back to my playthrough of prey
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>>59147056
You're right, I should go play showdown now
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>>59147062
Yes. It's possible to get dupes
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>>59147014
Theyre correct in thinking this btw
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>>59147049
No dude you don’t understand him and his normalfag sex having friends were going to throw back some brewskis and play competitive Pokemon, but alas anon’s girlfriend’s favorite Pokemon eviolite Rhydon 252 hp/special defense was not included, and thus they chose not to partake
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is amoonguss in the game?
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>>59147062
Yes because you can get shinies, different balls, titles, etc in recruitment.
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>>59147056
this game has left me blue balled for some fun pokemon pvp so im actually playing sv right now and I gotta say I'm having a *****
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you really can’t climb out of great ball unless you do weather nigger shit
Where are the terrain setters?
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is conkeldurr any good? just got him in the recruitment
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>>59147014
wtf i love tpci now
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>>59147051
>It's actively making counterplay to threats more difficult.
And in such small portions!!!!
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>>59147083
No. It was deemed too sus for ILCA.
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blast status?
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>>59147090
Five asterisks?
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>>59147069
Based
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Just fucking bite the bullet on freeze and change it to frostbite already.
Yes it needed to be nerfed, by simply replacing it with a far superior status.
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>>59147069
I hope you mean the newer one because even on release the 360 launch window prey was fucking abysmal and >pussy doors
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>>59147108
Don't know I deleted the game
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>>59147108
fat unemployed retards like us are getting to enjoy the divine passion of discovering a new meta (i'm starting to think inceneroar might be good in my exploration of the poke arts)
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>>59147118
interesting how campaignshitters can't decide if ice needs to be buffed or nerfed
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So I heard about complaints over 30fps, but why the fuck would you care about fps in a turn-based rpg?
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>>59147098
Yeah he’s really strong, sadly no assault vest or burn orb in this game to get his full power but he’s good
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>>59147132
The game is just plain ugly, the fps issue is just the cherry on top
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Has anyone compiled a list of all the relevant moveset changes?
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>>59146698
>>59146575
Letting us use our own mons isn't the issue. It's how everything else is implemented.

1. It's annoying as fuck trying scope out which mons are available right now to transfer
2. Stupidly small box even with the starterpack
3. You can't use moves that are not available in game and have to replace them with the in game moves with in game currency.

And besides that, there just isn't much incentive in bringing your own guys besides saving on /vp/ and tickets for recruitments. Compare that to the Stadium games where bringing your bros was the ideal way to play.
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>>59147132
They probably confiate that to the input lag issue.
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>>59147132
Menu navigation. There's many old rpgs for the ps1 and whatnot that ran at 30fps but 60 fps for menu navigation.

You ever wonder why?
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I’ve played 4 matches and every time was pretty much the same. Boring, I’m done with this for now. I guess having a limited pool of pokemon means people are just gonna google what’s good since they can’t use what they want.
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>>59147153
people will quickly realize that pokemon isn’t really fun at all and 95% of the enjoyment is exploring and building a team
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>>59147143
>It's annoying as fuck trying scope out which mons are available right now to transfer
Bulbapedia has a list
>Stupidly small box even with the starterpack
I don't have that many mons so it isn't an issue for me for now.
>You can't use moves that are not available in game and have to replace them with the in game moves with in game currency.
Kinda annoying that they aren't automatically replaced but being able to customize your mons with earned currency is actually good.
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>>59146672
It does a fucking garbage job at easing people into competitive pokemon
>No private rooms allowing for 6v6s
>Very limited lack of pokemon currently
>Severe lack of items, especially key items like life orb, band/specs, air balloon, black sludge, and assault vest these are also items that are the easiest to work with even for extreme beginner players.
>Ranked in pokeball tier has braindead AI trainers that spam two turn solar beams, or straight up use not super effective attacks against obvious type advantages
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>>59146604
>Is there single player content?
>No.
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>still onto 6v6
Why are you fucks forcing something that is never endorsed?
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>>59147179
Please explain how an unsupported format and a greater number of Pokemon and items to learn will make it easier for a new person to learn how to play
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>>59147192
have you not played sv?
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>>59147200
showdown retards can't answer that
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>>59147179
>It does a fucking garbage job at easing people into competitive pokemon
none of the rest of this post supports this point though
>No private rooms allowing for [format not played in any official competitive event]
>low list of usable mons means new players don't have as many variables to consider for teambuilding
>low list of usable items means see previous
>Ranked in pokeball tier has braindead AI trainers that even inexperienced players can beat
i think it'd be better if there was some kind of testing mode for players to experiment with stuff but even then you could just go into casual battles or organize a private lobby with friends/a competitive player's community or something
that skraw guy's been drumming up a lot of resources for new players to cut their teeth on the game, including a dedicated community discord server for people to talk turkey and try shit (setting aside any complaints or contempt for the platform, of course)
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>>59146604
I’ve never cared for IVs when playing mainline but I do EV train and catch/breed for a good nature. Am I good to go for Champions? IVs are nuked forever? I knew I was the future
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>>59147200
Casuals are not going to even stay with Champion
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>>59147192
>Why are you fucks forcing something that is never endorsed
The Champions in the game use 6 mons. The biggest battles in the anime use 6v6. The older Stadium games offered 6v6.
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>>59147200
>you can't use your favorites..... because... you just can't, ok????
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>>59147191
You have the mainline games for that.
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By the way the faster Pokemon now gets the weather priority. Was that always the case? I remember always being the slower Pokemon that gets to win the weather war before.
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>>59147200
How do Ariados and Castform teach a new person how to play?
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>>59147198
>panty lines
>lighting and shadows to highlight where the nipples are
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showdown shills are going insane
not playing your made up meta, sorry
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>>59147230
It’s seemingly random
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>>59147228
-smogon
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Matches still feel painfully slow with all the text proping up for every little thing and the drawn out animations of some moves. Feels like it's the fastest it's ever been for the 3D era, but still.

The limited roster is probably the only thing I'm tolerant towards. The rest just blows.
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>>59147192
Why have six Pokemon if you can only ever use half of your team?
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>>59147223
ivs are gone, everything is treated like it has max ivs in each stat
evs are still around and work exactly like they used to
>>59147226
>why does the game advertised as being for official competitive battling play using official competitive battling rules instead of some other random shit
why indeed
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>>59147226
So what?
This is a official comp game not campaignshitter. Since RBY the rules was always single 3v3 or doubles 4v4
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>>59147237
>OU is the only meta that exists
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>>59147236
If that's the case than that's retarded as fuck. I just lost a fucking battle due to that shit.
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>>59147243
so that you can plan around what you think your opponent might be bringing from his six
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You're not allowed to complain until you win 10 with this fucker
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>>59147243
>Why have a side deck in YGO?
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>>59147252
No Game Freak I won't be using this pos
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>>59147241
The item limits bug me way more than the roster, but a few additions in both would add a lot to the game
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>>59147241
I am sorry TikTok ruined for attention span Anon.
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>>59147229
The Switch-era mainline games are slop, and WiWa probably won't even have turn-based battles anymore.
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how is mega floette?
any teams around it?
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>>59146604
If you own Shield, Arceus, Violet, and ZA, is there any reason to engage with the VP roster and training purchase mechanics?
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I’ve only played the tutorial but it’s uncanny how low quality this game is. You would seriously never imagine this was the most profitable IP of all time, it feels like a game from 2003.
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Been playing this game all night, I'm addicted, this game is sick af
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>>59147226
In the eyes of normies, and we'll just everyone 6v6 is treated as the official way to play.

The pokemon company may shit and piss itself for all I care, people just want singles 6v6 as a baseline. If you keep asking a lot of people have ideas like no legends or other rules to make it fair even if the legendary is something stupid like mesprit.

People couldn't care a rat ass about what Pokemon thinks Pokemon should be.
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>>59147241
I do wish for fast text speed and no battle animations.
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>I spent 10 years of my life obsessing over copyright infringement rock paper scissors and this phone game is an existential threat to me
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>>59147275
campaignshitters aren't "people"
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https://youtu.be/0LMfhuj1-tg?si=ucc2nciJI8bZyftb
Welp
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>>59147261
There's no reason after 6 generations to have a text that says that every Pokemon was damaged by sand. We have fucking eyes. We can see and understand what's going on.
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>>59147268
if you want to change the EVs i guess
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>>59146711
Both are fucking ass but ZA has a slightly better roster.
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what team can i make with this piece of shit box
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>>59147272
Having a Blast?
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>>59147268
I have 0 homedex. I managed to make a sun team that carried me to Hyperball 1 and I still have a shit ton of unused VP.
Only thing retarded is that some Megastones are behind the premium pass, fuck that.
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>>59147271
Its insane how cheap feeling the game is. They outsourced and skimped on the budget for something that by design needs to be in service for longer than any mainline pokemon game
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>>59147252
you just know Watchog is going to be shit on again, I can already see the tweets
>Sceptile, Blaziken, and Swampert aren't in at launch
it's funny as hell since there's absolutely nothing to push with Watchog. No new mega, no place in the meta, etc. but he's here
>But they made room for WATCHOG?!
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>>59147143
>. You can't use moves that are not available in game and have to replace them with the in game moves with in game currency
Just change their set in-game before importing.
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>>59147282
And yet they outnumber us 400 to 1
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>>59147293
No megas are behind a premium pass doebeit.
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>>59147268
i think so
there are times where you end up scouting something like a version exclusive or something that's a pain to raise up from nothing
plus importing something from home locks its stats as it is in that moment, so if you want to adjust something about it you have to use vp to change it because taking it out of champions and putting it back in after changing it in a mainline game puts you right back where you started
t. has shield, violet and pla but no bdsp or z-a
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battle revolution still mogs showdown and champions
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>>59147290
you have 20k virgin points
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>>59147267
They locked Floette's mega stone behind the battle pass so basically no one has played with it yet kek
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>>59147297
huh idk what happened that greentext wasn't supposed to be separated
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>>59147229
so you had a chance to save the mainline single player games with a polished mobile title something the japanese make too much of and you still fumbled it because you are desperate enough to "force" people to play slop for that experience? dragalia lost didn't die for this
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>>59147282
That's rich coming from you, kojo.
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>>59147310
floette's mega stone is locked unless you send an eternal floette from z-a into champions
only battle pass locks are for feraligatr and emboar
same deal for the kalos starter trio
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>>59147304
Wrong
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Did Audino get any notable buffs?
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>>59147310
That's not true. You get the stone as a gift when you transfer Floette from Z-A. Strangely though, I haven't seen anyone other than me using it.
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>>59147200
>unsupported format
It won’t, it’s just a shame it isn’t there for fun
>fewer mons and items to learn
There are fewer mons and items to learn in an established meta. You know what works and how to build it because of years of refinement. Nothing is harder to learn than a new pokemon meta because there’s no starting point. What are good sets? IDK, nobody knows, none of the mons on the winning tournament teams from the last 6 years are available, what do I do? I have a Hydreigon, I googled Hydreigon VGC build but it says choice specs, there’s no choice specs, what do?

A smaller pool of mons and items simplifies teambuilding, but comp pokemon is at its simplest when you can skip teambuilding entirely, which like 70% of even the GOOD comp players do.
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>>59147284
damn i didn't expect wolfey to drop this sort of truth nuke
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Can't believe I was slightly hyped for this game
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>>59147293
You can grab Meganium and the stone by grinding though
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>>59147322
battle pass mega stones become available in the shop once their season ends
it's a way for people to get them earlier without spending vp on them, so if you don't care about feraligatr or emboar you don't need the battle pass for anything
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Mega Starmie bros I haven't seen a single one
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>Knock Off
>Helping Hand
>Confuse Ray
>Ability that lets him hit harder if he goes last or just run hyper Fang
It's not unusable by any means
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Pokemon WW will have 6v6 you shitposting campaignshitter. Let the big boys play the actual competitive format in peace.
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>>59147344
post current rank
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How do I get better at doubles? I've been avoiding it for years so I figured now would be a good time to get into it
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>>59147326
I would bet that just a lot of people don't have Floette, the grind to get it is kind of obnoxious
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>>59147340
isn't he broken?
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I am new to VGC,but tailwind is pissing me the fuck off.
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>>59147339
>it's not pay to win
>it's pay to not be locked out for a month
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>>59146626
Just “transferred” a dozen hacked mons into the game and have had no issues.
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>>59147333
Lmao Wolfey’s first video opens with him getting softlocked in the tutorial and having a mini crash out
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>>59147354
do you honestly believe putting an emboar or feraligatr on your team is going to result in you winning games
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lmao my bad for being excited to play with the new megas, since they aren’t in the fucking game
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This game is so ugly
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>>59147357
Is Wolfey that one faggot that got molested at some con?
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>>59147340
I wish I were you, I think all of my losses have been to this guy. Motherfucker's flinched down my focus sash revenge killer twice now.
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>>59147354
Point still stands that you'll be able to get the items eventually. It's not like you need to grind a whole year for that
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>>59147252
>we want people to pick weaker pokemon to put on their team, what should we do?
>buff their stats?
>give them better moves?
>better abilities?
>NO! add achievements for winning with shitmons!
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>>59147360
It doesn't matter, because they will keep doing it.
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>>59147360
reading this after i spent 2500 vp on a feraligatr...
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>>59147353
Either run tailwind or run trick room otherwise you're gonna have to get used to getting outsped
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>rental teams require you to have the Pokemon
why
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>>59147340
I don't have a good Starmie yet, I need to play more of Z-A and I don't really know what's a good team to run with him
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>>59147365
Maybe? Wolfey (con Perish) is the premier VGC meme player. He’s like temp6t except he has more tournament wins than anyone who ever played so it’s harder to clown on him. World champ difference, baybee.
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>>59147349
Which would be funny since the main reason people wanted it was just because they couldn't have it so them finally letting you have it but only by grinding the post game is really funny.

I got it because the last two side quests were locked behind beating 20 rounds of the infinite royale and I needed something to do while on the treadmill. My current distraction is just flying around paldea trying to find a palafin raid since that's the last possible pokemon I can get in gen9 without paying for online.
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>start battle
>they lead whimsicott and gyarados
>gyarados has intimidate
>I lead gengar and gardevoir
>gardevoir traces intimidate
>they insta forfeit
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>>59147340
I've been using him but I'm playing it in singles I fear
I feel like Starmie's overall kit is not very well suited to VGC
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>>59147369
who's they and what's it
>>59147370
i'm sorry feraligatrbro he's just not gonna take you to worlds
he's fine if you want to pubstomp children, the mentally insufficient or /vp/ (read: all of the above) though
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Do you start fighting real people right away or have to play a certain number of bot matches? The 1st ranked match I got was a Japanese name that was picking the most dogshit moves and pokemon imaginable
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>>59147394
pokeball tier is probably all bot matches
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>>59147326
what are you using with it?
a sun team with synthesis?
I don’t know what to do with mega floette
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>>59147357
With how much of corporate dicksucker he is I'm shocked he didn't edit that out.
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Does anyone wanna join me in Private Battle for a mission? Double Battle, the ID is 8746 1312
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>>59147394
they throw bots at you to build confidence before getting into the meatgrinder of copied VGC teams
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>>59147361
No way, you’ve gotta be kidding
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>>59147252
That's only for the first star reward, you need 100 wins with Watchog for the ultimate prize.
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>>59147394
you are probably facing against legit japanese children that actually don't know what they are doing
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>>59147394
Easiest way to spot a bot is their trainer being decked out in cosmetics when no real player has bothered to buy that shit yet.

Pokeball tier has bots for like the first 2-3 games but then you start playing vs real players
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>>59147394
I think that, after the tutorial is all finished, the first 2 matches you do in the beginner rank are always against a cpu, while the 3rd match to rank up is when you start seeing real people, but if you lose and go back down you start seeing cpus again until you hit the rank up match again
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>>59146672
>made to ease new players into the world of competitive pokemon.
>intimidate fakeout parting shot every other team
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>>59147265
>WiWa probably won't even have turn-based battles anymore
Sure anon, sure.
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>>59147252
What the fuck does Watchog even do? Does it even get Swords Dance?
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Is there some easy one size fits all counter to water types right now? Basculegion, Starmie, and Rotom-W are just destroying me in almost any scenario.
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>>59146719
Because knock offs the problem lol
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>>59147394
I think the first match is a bot but otherwise I'm pretty sure these are just legit Jap kids who probably just see the game as "Free Pokemon"
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>hawlucha gives no guard to a pokemon with a one hit KO move
How long until patch?
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>>59147409
about half of them are in, less if you don't count the battle pass locked ones and the z-a transfer locked ones
i think the numbers on that are like 17 usable z-a megas? idk for sure i'm really bad at math
https://www.serebii.net/pokemonchampions/megaabilities.shtml
feraligatr and emboar are battle pass locked right now, the kalos starters and floette are z-a locked
>>59147426
dry skin toxicroak could be a good pick for that
resists most stuff those guys have except for psychic moves on starmie, but it gets sucker punch for that
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>>59147368
Hey. Like Karen said, weak and strong pokemon are totally subjective. Skilled players make do with what they have
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>>59147421
I fucking hope I'm wrong.
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How the fuck do they expect people that haven't touched the switch slop to compete? You're pretty much gated by a gacha.
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>>59147423
Yeah
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> they introduce Pokemon like gacha banners
No shame
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>>59147426
Torkoal sun setting + Grass types with Chlorophyll, I've been doing that with Victreebel personally
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>>59147442
>How the fuck do they expect people that haven't touched the switch slop to compete
you can import stuff from go to home, which can then be sent to champions and modified
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>>59147442
100% F2P it's gonna be rough. If you get the starter bundle and battle pass you can very easily play comfortably without using Home.
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>>59147442
You WILL be hard stuck in Great Ball tier and you WILL be happy
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>>59147442
go
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>>59147442
You should be able to beat one competitive viable team as a F2P
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>>59147442
By getting lucky with the daily recruit. I see someone with Kingambit, Froslass and Garchomp
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why the fuck is shitcineroar in the game
fuck you gamefreak
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>>59147456
Yeah, I guess GO is still an option. It does still feel like a relatively tedious method despite being the more accessible one.
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>>59147468
Even without knock off it is still the most used shitmon.
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>>59146650
any update?
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>>59147462
Assuming you get lucky enough to get meta picks. Like the guy said, a gacha.
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>>59147436
The presence of that shit will be the test of whether they’re really gonna do “balance patches”
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nothing more disappointing than a new pokemon game lmao
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>>59147471
it's definitely less convenient than just using the gacha or importing something you've already built in a mainline game but it's an option for people who don't want to fuck with the gacha or buy a switch/whatever games have the guys they want to battle with
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>>59147476
I didn’t derank
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>>59147468
Because shitters need -1 attack on the board when they play the game or they freak out. Incineroar is the stealth rock of doubles
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imagine if ww launches without an online pvp mode since its just relegated to home/champions and we have to wait 18 months for the gen 10 mons to even get added to the game. it sounds ridiculous but this is game freak we're talking about, being worse than you could possibly imagine is their motto.
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>>59147468
The real issue was not having Covert Cloak or Clear Amulet in at launch.
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>>59147442
The game has tons of frontloaded recruitment points. If you do all the tedious little tasks like OPEN THE BATTLE STATS PAGE or BUY CLOTHES or EDIT YOUR TEAM, you're getting like 20 pulls on day 1 where you can pick anything you want from a choice of 10 random Pokemon.
With the tiny pool of Pokemon currently available, you're going to get offered a good chunk of them with that alone. That should be more than enough to build a team to start out with.
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>>59147490
cool, thanks anon
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>>59147493
it would be nice if WW had the Frontier again because of this game existing
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>>59147468
I literally lead with Milotic + Corviknight whenever I see an Incineroar, its really funny.
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>>59147499
wtf i love champions now
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turns out when there are like 30 pokemon in the fucking game the meta gets pretty stale pretty quickly
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>First Impression buffed to 100 power
HOLY SHIT BUGS ARE SO BACK!
>Checks what mons learn it
>it's Ariados. literally just Ariados.
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>>59147441
They'll keep Legends for random experimental shit, also whatever becomes the standard in the mainline games will affect Champions(if it's still running by then) for the simple reason that nobody will bother to keep the balance of a turn based metagame(which they already barely do) for a niche audience.
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>>59147506
first time playing doubles? the meta is literally always stale.
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>>59147506
so like every other vgc set ever
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>>59147506
The true Smogon experience.
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>>59147511
>no Golisopod in the game despite getting a Mega
>missing a bunch of new and old megas in general
>probably time limited and temporarily gone after next regulation
Literal retards
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>>59147518
All I wanted to do was use mega pod
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>try out 4v4 doubles
>literally just tailwind spam
>weather shenanigans
>taunt and protect bait
Wow much read, so good
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*seagull noises*
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Anyone else get hit with the "You are not connected to the network" errors? I read people say that turning off IPv6 fixes it but it didn't work for me. Only thing that does is using my phone to hotspot my wifi. Not even mobile data, just retransmitting the same wifi that wouldn't work before is the only way to get it going.
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>>59147284
>The game only had 2 programmers
>Sei Nakatani
>Ryoma Tachimoto

Well that explains a lot. No wonder it's poorly optimized and missing damn near everything.

For 2 guys in one year, with a bunch of integrations, this is actually pretty reasonable.

It's just another case of why the fuck won't pokemon company spend even a tiny sliver of money on their franchise.
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>>59147530
I have not had any errors yet.
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>>59147524
Gotta build a Trick Room centered team now. God knows how much vp and tickets I'm going to have to spend now...
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What's the best thing to spend my VP on?
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>>59147530
i had the game softlock on me once earlier because i forfeited after making a move (i think; game was unwinnable at that point anyway but i'm not sure whether forfeiting caused it or not) but otherwise it's been fine
>>59147540
mega stones for whatever mega you want to run
otherwise hold onto them in case you need to adjust a mon or something
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>>59146825
Fake Out can only be used on turn 1. Yes, TURN 1. Any turn after and it's a dead slot.

I don't care to much Champions start with low Pokemon or Item pool as they will add more in time. But changing such a core move in VGC is just mind boggling to me.
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>Game just softlocks if somebody's connection shits the bed too hard
cool
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GIVE ME A MEGA FLOETTE TEAM
NOW
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>>59147548
>Fake Out can only be used on turn 1. Yes, TURN 1. Any turn after and it's a dead slot.
retard-kun...
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Did Blueberry Academy prepare you?
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>>59147556
i got fucked my inc floette and Sinistcha healing it with hospitality
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>>59147557
he means the move can't be selected again
before you could intentionally use fake out even if it wouldn't do anything, but now you can't do that
this has some very niche implications but likely isn't going to matter more than once every 15 heliocycles
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>>59146604
>ended some dude's five win streak and rank up myself
Feels good bros.
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But I don't WANT to just play the meta. I'm my own person I'M A HUMAN BEING
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>>59147587
Just do want you want bro. I'm doing okay using mostly M-Absol, Pikachu and Basculegion.
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>tyranitar, excadrill, sylveon, gengar, gyarados, weavile
still pokeball 3 rank
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>>59147452
This game is a mess lmao
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Never played competitive pokemon before, so I never really payed any attention to stats or abilities.

Been literally reading for hours because I dont want to commit VP just to train something wrong or a Pokémon that ill never be able to use.


This is hell
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>>59147468
Game Freak are a bunch of fucking drooling retards
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>>59147619
you had months to do that
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>>59147619
i would just wait for a website or something to start putting up Pokemon team set ups
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>>59147552
This game was bade with duct tape and paper clips
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>>59147619
Just have fun man
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>>59147587
180 mons please understand that we had to keep in Inshiteroar and Sneasler
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tfw quick claw is actually coming in clutch
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>>59147631
and mega fucking gengar
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>>59146672
In getting rid of Life Orb, Choice Band, Choice Specs, Clear Amulet, Covert Cloak they greatly Incineroar. The loss of tera already removed defensive options but now it's oppressive. You WILL be Faked Out. You WILL be Intimidated and Parting Shotted. And you WILL not stand a chance at OHKOing it without your opponent making a mistake.
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stallbros...
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>>59147587
i look like this and act like this
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>pick Absol
>get 5 rentals that are actually useful
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>>59147658
proof?
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>>59147565
>followed that up with a six win streak using my rag-tag team of retards
I'm having fun guys :))
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>>59147008
things like this would be cool and encouraging to use pokemon like ariados if there wasn't things like fucking mega floette blowing everything up, making it worthless to use
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>pikachu is in
When are they just going to put in partner pikachu with all its broken let's go moves ala eternal floette.
Why even bother putting in pikachu if it's gonna be a shitmon that no one is ever gonna use.
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mega floette fairy aura dazzling gleam boosted by helping hand is kinda crazy shame to those who don't have ZA
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>>59146939
I can confirm I got that same lineup as well when choosing palafin.
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>>59147667
You mean at the very start? I thought it always gave you the same 5?
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why are there so many people here caring about the free pokemon and the recruitment? are there really that many of you who don't have pokemon ready to transfer from home?
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>>59146672
Haze can somehow heal you.
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>Chilly Reception is in the game
>It wasn't given to Mr. Rime
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>>59147722
Some people want to build from scratch using only Champions, I can see the appeal.
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>>59147707
Partners can't be moved from LGPE to Home
First covid bubble game
>bother putting in pikachu
Face of pokemon
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>>59147511
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I07TdUeBSYs

>>59147442
If you have 3DS stuff to import to home, that works too.

>>59147394
My tutorial matchmaking match spammed scary face. The only attacking move they used the entire match as a hurricane on my heracross, which missed because snow was up.

>>59147252
Does this even refund you for purchasing watchog?

>>59147306
>Pain to raise from nothing
The biggest cost to new Mon is the 2500 for permanent recruitment, which import avoids.
It's crazy easy to raise a pokemon from lvl1 in SWSH using raid loot. I remember raidcat making.
SV honestly isn't that bad either.
Let's Go is piss easy.
Arceus has a trainer battle you can just demolish over and over with press A strats.
ZA and GO are the only slow level grinds, and you only need to level until you have all the moves you want.

EVs and IVs don't transfer, so the 330VP for that is unavoidable.
Level is hard set to 50.
I think mints get reset, so unless you nature grind eggs or catches you're paying 500VP no matter what anyways. That said, if you've beaten the game surely you have an everstone and at least one pokemon compatible and with the right nature or chain compatible. You'll be there in like 4 eggs max. If they aren't reset, they're freely purchasable.
Moves are super easy to set in game vs 250VP each.
That just leaves ability, and ability capsules are purchasable now in mainline game, so it's only ability patch hidden abilities that are the hard grind vs 500VP to set in Champions.

Importing is WAAAAY cheaper and easier a grind.
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>>59147722
You really think people on a video game board on 4chan actually PLAY video games?
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>>59147707
Lightball plus Gmax Factor.
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why cant i run blaziken
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>>59147717
Nope. They're based on your starter selection.

>>59147552
>Online multiplayer game requires an internet connection
Wow you don't say
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having fun right now with this team, I haven't looked at what all can be set up for teams in Champions, feel a lot of pressure from anyone running ttar with only h-decidueye pressuring it if tr is up. thinking I should swap out mega frosslass and/or dragonite out for mega meganium and/or azumarill

looking for other's thoughts
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>>59147557
Not first turn a pokemon is on the field. Turn 1.

Switching does not reset. Pokemon with fakeout who aren't your openers can't use it.

T U R N 1
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>>59147738
Would only make it not garbage.
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>>59147749
>Switching does not reset.
Worked on my opponent's machine.
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>>59147742
>Nope. They're based on your starter selection.
Has anyone made a list of which 5 mons each starter gives you? I'm curious to see which has the best outcome.
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>>59146825
Leech seed is 1/16th as is Salt Cure.
Frozen hard caps at 3 turns.

>>59146834
>He doesn't dodge in ZA
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>>59147752
It's competition is watchog.
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we going to be getting any slutty cosmetics?
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>>59147758
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lucky shitter bright powder how is this shit in the game
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>>59147749
Me when I spread misinformation.
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>>59147742
>Online multiplayer game requires an internet connection
>Wow you don't say
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exception_handling
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>>59147760
I read that Leech Seed got nerfed before, but when I used it, it still drained 12%, so I think someone just talked out of their ass. Not sure about salt cure, I didn't pay enough attention. But I could check later.
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>>59147773
looks like the absol team didn't fully load lol
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>>59147773
Which one of these is the best? I don’t have squat in home and never bought Gen 8 or 9.
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I don't know about you freeloaders but I'm getting no lack of partner and training tickets. They just dump them on you. But even paying for the membership and pass, rolling for pokes at the ranch seems to be the bottleneck. I've only really been able to roll for a handful of new ones
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>>59146825
There's some learnset changes.

M-Kang no longer has power up punch
Incen no longer has u turn or knock off
Archuladon no longer has body press.

Protect went from 16 PP to 5.

Some megas are missing like X&Y raichus, Z Lucario, and Z Garchomp.
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Rate my team
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>>59147773
Armorouge looks like the worst

Pikachu looks like the best
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>>59147795
>They just dump them on you.
Is this your first F2P mobile gacha?

They always do the first few months to get you hooked. Then they turn the fire hose off and you pay up or die of thirst
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>>59147809
>he doubts GODLUCHA
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>>59147795
>But even paying for the membership and pass, rolling for pokes at the ranch seems to be the bottleneck.
Really? Without paying, just from the early quests and handouts I have 436 tickets, if I wanted to roll like a madman I could collect 20 pokemon right now.
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Psyshield Bash is now 90 BP, move over Farigiraf
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Uhhhh can NFEs be evolved in Champions? That sounds like work
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Ive rolled like 10 times with tickets and still no incineroar, I cant compete like this
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>>59147809
The Armorouge team is like a big collection of trash megas
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>>59147806
Does meganium's ability give fire moves a sun boost?
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Palafin looks so fucking scary get him away from me
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>>59147836
Yes, you can also weather ball fire in it.
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>>59147326
eternal floette is a cancerous grind. I would not recommend going for it if you haven't already
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fucking hell this is boring
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>>59147884
not everyone likes 2v2s it's fine
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the matchmaking feels like some overwatch forced 50% wr bullshit. one match i get a bot who repeatedly clicks sucker punch into farigiraf, the next i get a super sweaty cybertron sun team
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is their a cap to how much VP you can get per day?
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>>59147908
Doesn't look like it.
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>>59147742
>>Online multiplayer game requires an internet connection
You're missing the point. He got stuck in an endless connection message and even trying to forfeit didn't take him back out to the menu.
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>>59147905
That's because you're still in the kids pool.
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I do hope they eventually add in the fun modes and rulesets. We need triples and Multis
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fuck i just had the best comeback ever but theres no replay viewers
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>>59147415
I spent all of my initial 10k vp on cosmetics after buying the one mega stone I needed for my team.
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>>59147971
Honestly? Respect
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Competitive is gay, I'm going to make shit with my favorite shitmons (all of them)
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Being unable to use Gastrodon is driving me fucking insane FUCK
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So I can save different teams, but each variation on a pokemon needs to be a separate pokemon?
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>>59147985
Same, I swear at least from my perspective half the OP stuff right now is countered by Gastrodon.
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>>59147415
I've been seeing a bunch of actual players who spent points on cosmetics. I think the best way to tell someone is a bot is when they're not using any held items at all.
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whats the best counter to fagcineroar right now, mega blastoise?
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>>59148012
Kommo O
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>>59148012
Corviknight :)
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>>59147746
your decidueye should be named Fukuro, not Sekiro
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>>59148012
play singles. you'll never see the shitter
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>>59147973
Nah, I was just lucky five of the Pokemon I wanted to use and already set up in Home were mostly legal and just needed minor tweaks to moves. All were able to use default items. I had planned on using a Mega Metagross rain team. Now it's a Mega Excadrill rain team.
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>>59148026
I just slapped the first Japanese name that came to mind on it desu
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>Already lost a couple games because I forgot prankster doesn't work on dark types
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>>59148012
White Herb Unburden 32 speed Jolly Sneasler with Fake Out and Close Combat.
>fastest Fake Out so you can 100% either stop the Incin or its partner
>with Unburden you're faster than weather abusers too so you can even do stupid stuff like Coaching your Swift Swim Basculegion if rain is already up
>in the absence of Intimidate you can self proc Unburden with your own CC
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>>59148062
well now you can name it after an actual owl!
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I can only win against clankers....
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>>59148100
same twin
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>>59148100
>>59148109
you now have to battle each other
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Meowscarada seems like a menace in singles, any good counters? most of my walls are water types and my sweepers are getting outsped.
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>>59148111
What happens when a spear that can't pierce anything hits a shield that can't block anything?
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>>59148115
Whats your team comp looking like anon?
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recruited incineroar
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>>59148174
fuk u
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my teams been kicking ass so far
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>>59148123
This is who I have available to me at the moment besides the loaner shitters the game gives you. All from my past competitive teams.

I mainly use Glimmora, Umbreon and Garde as my mega. I'd be usiing mega beedrill if the stupid mega stone were in the game.
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It's pretty funny how blatantly the game favors people who probably bought both the battle pass and the fucking subscription. Yes, I totally buy that this one guy's quick claw triggered three turns in a row while all my moves kept missing.
This is more rigged than master duel.
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>>59148282
just get lucky bro, simple as
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>>59148282
every single game in the history of games people say this. unless it's a korean company they probably didn't rig the rates. korean game = 100% rigged because they make billions and then only have to pay millions in fees for getting caught.
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2 hours to daily mission resets
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>>59148274
Honest Glimm works as a good sashed opener with stealth rock and toxic debris to get atleast one layer of toxic spikes out.

You might consider using that Noivern you have, maybe even scarf it to deal with the Meowscarda
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>>59148282
I'm sorry, I'm just that skilled. You should try being luckier.
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>>59148223
I think both the water and fire tauros are really underrated in this meta.
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>>59148274
>I'd be usiing mega beedrill if the stupid mega stone were in the game.
So many retards skipping the tutorial mission lmao
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I think Incineroar should've never been in the initial release!!
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>>59148359
the fuck would I be doing tutorials for? This shit forced me into like 15 minutes of baby mode to begin with.
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>>59148392
Is this your first time playing a f2p game ever? The tutorials ALWAYS give a fuckload of rewards.
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thats how I feel after using him too, cant wait to get a choice band on him
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>>59148415
meant to quote >>59148351
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I'm so fucking sick of Incelroar and Archaludon already. I'm playing totally out of meta, and it's impossible to climb from Great to Ultra
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>>59148438
just become a master of bluffing. is this water type that could easily OHKO your brainless fire cat REALLY a water type, or perhaps its that H Zoroark you saw in the team preview? willing to risk a fake out for it?
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Bros? Anyone with an Aegislash? Home trade would be cool, I have a lot of stuff. But I only have access to S/V.
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>>59148498
I have one from ZA, friend code is AEXCGERCDJMS
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tatora sexo
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i don't get why metagross and the gen 3 starters aren't in the game
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>>59148659
So they can release them later down the line in a hoenn themed season. :^)
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>>59148697
>it's the feces season
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Should i play as a girl in a pokemon game for the first time in my life? I don’t think the male mc is ever getting anything good
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Umbreon has been really carrying my stupid ass...
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>>59148772
lucky you, i have been facing nothing but steel types that wont let me toxic stall with umbreon
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>>59148745
>I don’t think the male mc is ever getting anything good
That's not true
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I'm not familiar with how gachas work, when they drip feed new mons and such will they also remove some of what's available now or is it just accumulative?
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>>59148745
what a fag
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>>59148801
They'll probably rotate.
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>>59148801
Most gacha games would just dripfeed but I think it's more likely that it'll stick with the formats system they used in SV and introduce pokemon aligned with that
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Ability predictions?
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why the fuck won't the game let me send my 6th gen meganium, emboar and feraligator? but seemingly every other compatible poke from x/y and oras send over just fine?
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Girls? I just spent fucking 10k on my twink... it's over. Why do I buy cosmetics? Even fucking poses
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>>59148998
So you look breedable to the bots
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>>59148998
just import your mega floette from za and your incineroar from home and you're good
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Not enough clankers for me to leave Poke ball tier
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>>59147244
>evs are still around and work exactly like they used to
Not quite. You only get 66 points worth total, with 32 max in each stat.

Even if you divide the 508 and 252, that was 127 total, and +63 max in a stat.

Like it's similar. Very similar. But it is different, enough to mess with calcs you might be used to.

>>59147830
What NFEs?
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>>59148801
It's not actually a gacha proper, it's a champion rotation like League of Legends.
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>>59148274
Mega Beedrill is the mega tutorial for both Pokemon Go and Champions.
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>>59149019
Is the Scary Face spam too scary for you?
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Can you help me with the Nature and EV spread for my sinistcha? I thought about full HP + SPA and maby modest? Or do you think full bulk would be better?
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>>59149124
No the non-clankers with shinies are
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>>59147326
Because once you transfer something out of ZA you can't transfer it back, right? ZA has one way transfers?
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>>59149142
If I were a Pokémon I wouldn't want to return to ZA either.
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>>59149136
You can press Y while editing stats to see what kind of spreads other people run on this mon
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>>59147401
Well, it's a fairy type that hits like a truck, has decent speed, and plenty of Sdef.

Sun team with Synthesis, Solar Beam, and maybe some utility moves certainly isn't a WRONG way.

Though weather isn't as good without the extender rocks.
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>>59149142
It's one way in that it can't go back to old games. ZA to Home to ZA (and Champions "imports" technically never leave Home) is fine.
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>>59148282
Sounds like somebody doesn't have the Heart of the Cards.
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>>59148282
If there's anything I've learned over the years, it's dice and somehow even computer RNGs, hate tryhards.

People relaxed and playing for fun have great luck. People who are obsessed with winning, rigged, straight up rigged, literal loosh farm.
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>>59148975
Limber



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