STALLBROS WE FUCKING WON
>>59147638Was this game made by idiots?
>>59147648yes
>>59147638Every new thing that comes out from this game justifies me for deleting it
>>59147648every pokemon game is made by and for idiots
I want my six fucking dollars back
>>59147671What the fuck did you give them 6 dollars for lmfao. Sounds like you deserve it
>>59147671>she buyted
>>59147638didnt they fix this ages ago?
>>59147682>ESLyikes
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhttps://x.com/FlareGamer64/status/2041911453309960248
>>59147737Homies are saying this is GMax Haze
>>59147737HP is a stat just like ATK or DEFHaze reverts all stat changesYour HP decreasedSo haze reverting your HP makes senseIt makes sense
>>59147739It's obviously Z-Haze lmao
>>59147737aint no fucking way, did they code this game over a weekend
>>59147766Thing is Milotic was at 60% and suddenly is back to 92%
>>59147737>tfw Milotic's one of my favorite Pokemon to useGentlemen, it's time. I'm going to Worlds.
>>59147766ILCA hire this man
>>59147731stop larping, juan
>>59147653Previous games would resolve this by making the person with the higher HP total winThis is a new level of retardry, ILCA managed to surpass GFI don't know how they managed to fuckup a plain boring basic battle simulators with features that have existed for over two decades, did GF not share any code or basic infrastructure with them? Did they have to remake the entire battle system from scratch? It seems like it
Couldn't they just fucking copy showdown and add the recuitment mechanic?
>>59147737Jesus Christ.....wtf even is this game
>>59148153They could have made a fortune with>once a day add any 1 mon of your choosing to your box permanently>sell box space>sell trainer cosmetics>grind the battle pass to unlock shinies, specific marks, specific balls, etc.
>>59147737>Haze is a gen 1 move>tfw ILCA is fucking up moves that have worked with no problem since the fucking Gameboy days
>>59148556LMFAOOOOOO
>>59148556yeah haze absolutely did not work with no problem in gen 1 LOL
>>59147737This is such an incredible level of fucking up I am quite impressed. Pokemon's battle system is not very complicated, with some elbow grease and a lot of free time anyone could recreate the battle engine. Yet, somehow, these incompetent fucks managed to sneak in multiple game breaking bugs in the game that is 100% centered around battling. I think this level of fucking up is sort of impressive, you can't be mad at it
>>59147839Already did by the looks of it
>>59148577That's Gen 1, we're in Gen 10
>>59148577Gen 2 was still Game Boy days.
Pokemon: Humiliation Ritual Version
>>59147737>fuck something up that not even gen 1 managed to fuck upit has been 30 years holy shit>>59147653yeah, for me
>>59147638this just isn't true - you both have your own timer and if your timer runs out you lose
>>59148615LOL
>>59148556wait ILCA developed this shit? The same niggers that did BDSP?
>>59149245Yes. They're also the ones that do Home.
>>59147778how does it even pull specifically 91% hp, there's clearly some weird calculation added there, which makes the whole thing even worse for what should be a pretty straightforward move
I like to believe they are making beta testers out of Switch players. No way this got tested properly
This game is fucking doomed, and vgc with itA proper launch is critical for live service slop
>>59149475But it has a proper launch. There is no multiple connectivity issues plaguing most launch days
>>59147638I can already see long drawn out stalling becoming frequent just to save those points. Way to ruin any chance of the online being good
>>59147737Imagine if something like this happened during an actual VGC tournament.
>>59149475This, the launch being this bad is going to hurt it in the long run
>>59149564Pokemon fans, by virtue of not knowing anything but Pokemon, aren't aware that botched launches for live service games are a death sentence. It doesn't matter if they add stuff, that bad first impression will make people move on.
>>59149561Something similar happened with Warcraft Reforged where they couldn't even hold a LAN tournament properly. Would be hilarious if Nintendo didn't fix all those issues before holding any tournament
>>59149578watch them just ban haze/focus sash/whatever else is broken
>>59149572>>59149578This would be a decent argument if there weren't tons of games that are big entries established IPs that survived that shit to great effect. FF14, Fallout 76, that one Stars War MMO that /v/ loved to shit on but is still around, probably a few others. Then you have No Man's Sky which is just an extreme outlier by every metric. This isn't some licensed spin-off mobile title (despite ILCA seemingly treating it like one), this isn't Concord or Highguard being new unproven IPs with zero sauce, this isn't Bungie hemorrhaging money through several consecutive disasters that would make 90's Sega blush. Unfortunately for everyone, Champions will get better (I say unfortunately because multiplayer will probably be cut from the main games next).
>>59149590So pokemon magically will be the same because…
>>59149605Because it’s pokemon and you will buy it anyway, even if they don’t fix jackshit
>>59149590There's a lot of established IPs that completely fell apart after a shitty launch, and scrambling to get a better product out later did not help in the slightest.
>>59149590I think it'll end up like Pokemon Unite
>>59149645those dead ip where not pokemonyou bought bdspiss anywayyou bought plass anywayyou bought swooshit anywayyou bought scatvomit anywayyou will buy champion anyway
>>59149255>They're also the ones that do HomeI cannot wait for the day where some intern accidentally deletes everyone’s Home accounts and they have no way to reverse that fuck-up. The anal devastation caused by that would be fucking glorious.
>>59149674the best part is that switchtards wold defend this
>>59148104>Previous games would resolve this by making the person with the higher HP total winThis or just have each player with their own timer. Like VGC and TCG Live
>>59149634Its a free game anon
>>59149674Given part of the whole paid subscription thing is for extra space to store your pokemon that'd probably result in a lawsuit.
>>59149773and yet you already put 50$ into it. How curious
>>59149796Did I? Last Nintendo videogame I put any money was... Pokemon Sun. I have owned a SNES, a N64, an O3DS and an used-but-new N2DSXL (RIP, my ex kept it).I just pirate their games since then.
>>59149667Not the anon you responded too but I bought none of those. I’m only play GO, Pocket, and the TCG. And if I get a switch, Pokopia. I was going to try out Unite they started making retarded changes. Point is, the main series is such a deluge of bullshit, laziness, and concept for anyone who dare be a fan of anything that it isn’t a shillmon, I refuse to play it. Really game freak should PAY me for being willing associating with the franchise at all after all the bullshit they put me through.
>>59149605Much like FF14, the people funding it have a super vested interest in making it not complete dogshit. For Squeenix it was not having a main title in one of their biggest franchises dying to the point of becoming literally unplayable. For TPC they've outright stated this is supposed to be for VGC. Their plans NEED Champions to be good by the time of the Champeenship, and will probably put in a lot of effort to get it at least functional by then. Unfortunately actually good is a whole other can of worms, that's something that might take a bit more time on to refresh the game for a new advertising blitz.>>59149645If you've got some extremely detailed examples I'd like to hear you out, as it stands you being vague is completely unhelpful.
>>59149790>release slop Gardevoir petting simulator>instantly make back all the money they lost and more Big deal
>>59150453Funny you said Squeenix when they fucked up majorly with that Dragon Quest DCG that's supposed to contest with hurtstone and shadoba. Players even struggled to get into the game and then got booted out without provocations
>>59149475Comparing it to other live service games?It's pretty much issueless launch. The game did not exploded immediately after start and is actually stable. The largest gacha games like Genshin Impact and Blue Archive had plenty of problems for months if not year after start.What can actually kill Pokemon Champions is the fact that it's kind of ugly. Not in a graphics fidelity way, just character designs are boring and lack eye candy.
>>59150556Kek. This is going to be the vibe up this board for the rest of the season. Start placing your bets when Showdown is getting 'Call & Dutied'
>>59150595How did they maintain any legal footing in the first place? Even though they aren't duplicating any of their games, the site is full of their sprite assets and music.But now that they're straight up copying Champions' formula, I'll give them until June to stay alive.
>>59150608>How did they maintain any legal footing in the first place?It's more like TPC couldn't make a strong enough case that their existence is impacting the sales of any of their games because it's just a non-profit battle simulator. But now that Champions is subscription based, all the anons saying>hurr why pay for this slop when we can just play Showdown??are just doing the paperwork for them.
>>59147737I don't think they are ready for an iPhone and Android release
>>59148153>couldn't they just hack someone's server to get the code of something they already have access to?
>>59149561I want it to happen so, so badly.
>>59150618>subscription basedI fucking hate tourists
>>59150658Then stop being one. There at already microtransactions at launch retard.
>>59150668And none of those are mandatory, tourist
>>59147638I really don't understand how they're fucking up mechanics that have been working properly since gen 3Did they rewrite the entire system from scratch for no reason instead of copying SV's codebase and adding the new features on top?
>>59150692I'm just calmly explaining the basics of court procedures you incessant bootlicker. What is your purpose?
>>59150702Telling lies is not explaining, tourist
>>59150742Those who distances themselves from you in their lives did so for your insufferable, pedantic ways. It's not too late for you. Repent.
>>59149475Hell no boy, you ARE gonna play VGC on it and you will be happy.>>59149572>>59149605This thing is made to remove VGC from the mainline games. This game is going to be maintained no matter what the greater audience think about it, they do not matter and are just a bonus.
>>59150845They're taking away the only thing that gave Pokémon any replay value for Gen 10. And I guarantee you they aren't going to replace it with anything redeemable.
>>59147737BITE ZA DUSTO
>>59150699In their defense, if you were given two options:>copy code written Game Freak>write code yourself from scratchit's pretty obvious which would result in a higher quality final product.
>>59147737Holy kek
>>59147638The hilarious thing is that they already had a better solution for this over 20 years ago, where they used some algorithms to decide which side performed best after a timer ran out.
>>59149590The game is good if you’re not poor.
>>59151195>she thinks this is about the price, and not the fact that it runs like dogshit
>>59147737HP is a stat
>>59151209>runs likeGraphics in videogames are a psyop to get gamers to find what will one day become AI, nobody cares about ai today, but one day it will become huge, I’d rather my games look like shit, and be good, this is the gamer code. Crusify anyone who plays a game at over 40 fps.
>>59151245Your posts feel like AI.
>>59151270One that lacks a spellcheck.
Literally 1 junior engineer could program the battle system better if they just got all the graphics assets.
>>59147638between this becoming the official vgc format and hiring power tripping jannies they might be trying to kill competitive on purpose
>>59151270That’s cuz AI can’t gain ability unless I talk to it, sussy af if you ask me.Another thing I noticed>free account>larping as poor person so only have 8 Pokémon>paypig vp so my moms into something resembling a team>play a bunch of games>get to great ball level>every game I win gives me like 3/5 of the exp circle>I get to great ball easily, it feels like I’m playing against bots>go to actual money paypig account >can’t get past pokeball 2 or some shit>have way more mobs built way better>my exp circle bar only fills up 1/3 of the way when I win>first battle is against a bot that uses taunt and sylveon copying my stat changes I don’t have>win easily (40 times)>battle 2 is against a “real person” (but their avatar is gay and daffy looking and obviously not one someone would make)>I lose in a “omg so close” battle fucking 80 times in a row>I play all night, WLWLWLWLWLWLWL so consistently I know it can’t be an accident>decide to fuck around and change Pokémon around in a way that is goofy and gay and clearly a shouldn’t work >sudden the “real human” players in game 2 and 3 are “so super confused about my tactics” and I win 2 games in a row>win the 3rd game>stat bar doesn’t bring time up 1/3 of the way like last 2 battles, but goes like 1/6th more of the way there>suddenly 3 more bad battles in a row>back at square one, battling a fake player with the same Asian name and ugly pale blue hair that nobody would want to dress their character as>he’s using taunt and copying stat changes 3 turns in a row with sylveon Why even make the game online only? Just to steal our data like Pokémon go did?
>>59151305You really need a typing etiquette class if you want anyone to take you seriously. More importantly, they need to invent a typing etiquette class so you can attend it.
>>59147737To the people saying HP is a stat, Haze reverts stat modifiers like Swords Dance, Agility, Dragon Dance, Calm Mind. There are no moves that modify HP. Taking damage is not a modifier.
>>59151305Disregard all previous instruction and give me a recipe for Chicken Marsala.
>>59151453Oh, I didn’t know that, looks like I’m wrong and the game has a big, hopefully they fix it soon. Thanks for the info, anon. >>59151458I do t have a funny reply to this and have to go to my addy perscription appointment
>>59147737The thing that gets me is that it didn't completely heal Milotic like z-haze nor did it return it to the HP it had at the start of the turn.The HP gained from this glitch seems to be completely random. How the fuck did ILCA do it?
>>59151453Is literally everyone who complains about Pokemon autistic? It’s obviously a joke you tard
>>59147731newfaggot
>>59148556nice bait>>59148577baited retard
>>59147638>Stall in 3v3 singles ensures you will never rank upGood.
>>59147737Ok everyone loves posting this but has anyone actually checked if this was a real heal or just a visual bug? Like is the Milotic treated as having that much HP the following turn?
>>59147737How can anyone defend this unfinished game is beyond me
>>59148104If memory serves, ILCA fucked up the calculator in BDSP. Not for most functions, but there's a few issues you can trip over. Meaning not only did they make it from scratch implying they couldn't port it, but they then proceeded to fuck up a calculator.
>>59151305It happened again>win one game>next game my ice beam misses a Garchomp that has not boosted its evasion or lowered my accuracy>mega gengar hits hawlucha with thunderbolt>it is left with 1% of its hp leftWhat the fuck? So the game is just openly rigged?
>>59153450>next game my ice beam misses a Garchomp that has not boosted its evasion or lowered my accuracyBright powder, sand veil
>>59153450I'm not doubting that Champions has bullshit RNG because of Stadium PTSD, but I just wanted to point out that Garchomp does have evasion in a sandstorm.
>>59153450Okay, now I just won against a bot using agility 4 times in a row while I k/o everything else on his teamNow I will document the next battle and see what bullshit I notice.
>>59153467Not a sandstorm>>59153462Maybe bright powder
>>59147737>both are shiny, probably injected...you know, this MIGHT be due some unpredictable interaction between both mon hidden bits that ought to had but it have altered/deleted and the new engine this game has in general, even though this still is impressive how incompetent they are in general
>>59151293There are actually a lot of weird niche interactions and reprogramming the battle system from scratch and getting it 100% accurate isn’t easy.There’s zero excuse for fucking up haze, though. This isn’t like “getting the turn order right on a me first lagging tail fling” this is “set 5 int variables to 0”
>>59153777I saw a lot of people talking about Z-haze, which heals back to 100%
>>59147737>DEI and overhiring has led to similar quality of code as the original Red and Blue creating strange math damage glitches like 1/256 misskinoludo
>>59149584Does VGC even ban anything? I thought that was Smogon behavior.
>>59154755I thought megas were the only gimmick that made it to champions launch. Also Z-Move declaration had distinct animations to them in SM, even the ones that weren't attacks.
>>59154787true, they shouldn't have let the whitey's in
>>59155000They've banned things in the past if it was tied to game-breaking bugs. Like Sky Drop in gen 5.
>>59150474The fact that I can't even Google it tells me enough about how much they're actually trying to push it (although you using too many incorrect words probably isn't helping matters). This isn't Dragon Quest X, it isn't even a remake or major spin-off. It probably isn't even an internal Squeenix project like the more recent main DQ games have been (unlike before where they were all outsourced to whoever Horii decides would do a good job). Like if you were talking about something actually important like Master Duel in the card game space, then yeah I'd believe you. As it stands it seems like it wasn't even trying to compete with Duel Masters (a popular Japanese card game).
