Have any more move buffs and nerfs been discovered or is this it?
>>59149886I didn't notice Bone Rush had been buffed. Huh. ...Still don't think it's worth running over Bonemerang.
>>59150107yeah weird choicemarowak cant really run loaded dice and the only other mons that get it are lucario who is always going to be mega and fucking mandibuzz
>>59150127Probably exactly the reason they buffed it. There’s nothing that viably runs it in its most optimized state, compared with other multi-hit moves, so they figured a power increase wouldn’t hurt.
>>59150604So, they buffed it precisely because they knew no one would use it anyway since it’s still suboptimal compared to other options those Pokémon have? Making the buff completely pointless? Meanwhile ther are literally ZU shitters in fan fic who will be FU shitters here since they got nothing? It’s impressive how petty game freak’s evilness is. It’s genuinely admirable. I wish I could be enough of an asshole to just spit in the faces of people who do nothing but give me money and lavish me undeserved praise
>>59149886>Surprise Owl buffBASED BASED BASED BASED
>snap trap is steel type nowAs it should have been. Though bad news for Carnivine if they ever felt like giving it that.
>>59149886You forgot our GOD ariados getting his signature move getting buffed
>>59150736>he thinks carnivine will appear in a game againOh no no no
>>59150736My poor chud Carnivine needs some sort of evolution or a unique ability/move anyways, it's a complete shitmon otherwise and has been since DP. It's such a shame too, because if it got released today you just know it would have gotten a bug version of earth eater or some crazy shit like that. They basically give every single new Pokémon some signature move or ability nowadays bur back then they really didn't give a shit about making them stand out. You'd perhaps think they would use remakes like bdsp or champions as opportunities to give these old mons some love but nah they can't be assed
>>59150643why does nemona have robinhoot?
>>59150971She caught it in the Blueberry dome I believe. I also think it’s the first female decidueye we have met. And yes, she has one in game as well in the dlc if you picked Sprig. The alternative starters are Infernape and Greninja
>>59149886These are all good changes. My only hope is they continue to make adjustments like this through balance patches.
>>59150604>Buffed it knowing no one would use it anyway??If they wanted to make it worth using, they should have made it 35 BP. That way 3 hits (105 BP) would be enough to eclipse Bonemerang. The level-up moveset has always implied it's supposed to be an upgrade, but you'd need to hit 4/5 times just to match it and 5/5 to exceed. This buff gives more damage, but it hasn't changed the calculus.
>>59150895Being this retarded is a choice
>>59149886Toxic Thread now sharply lowers speed.
>>59151011Ice should be super effective against water, ice literally freezez water, same with bug and normal, normal people get scared of bug, but but big big big big HGH thug big big big big big big big big bug bug bug mons mons mons mons mons bug bug mons bug mons
>>59150873Smeargle deeply appreciates all the hard work that Ariados is putting in.
>>59151370You can say that again, little buddy.
>>59151309Just equip Loaded Dice to Marowak :)
>>59150873>Ariados gets in AND its signature move undexited AND the move gets buffedMassive push for Ariados to work. Why?
>>59150873Ariados stocks are going UP, get in while you can!!
>>59151387Ariados also got the fucking 100 BP First Impression lol
>First Impression buffedCan't wait until the Ant is in.
>>59150107>>59150127>>59151309>>59151381Thinking about this some more, I think that a further increase in Bone Rush's accuracy would make the newly 30 BP worth it.As it stands, both moves have a 1/10 chance of no damage. I think the guarantee of 100% accuracy would probably be worth the 70% chance of swinging for 60 and 90 base damage respectively. If Bonemerang misses even once, I think Bone Rush would start to out DPS it.If someone wants to do the math for this, be my guest. If I have time maybe I'll do it later.
>>59150107Bone Rush at this point is more of a Lucario move and that's probably why they buffed it.But it's still pointless when Lucario can just use Earthquake.
>>59150643Any other buff for owl other than spirit shackle?
>>59149886I wonder when they'll give Trop Kick to Hitmonlee?
>>59150643I love Deci but this ultimately doesn't matter, it still gets outdamaged by Poltergeist & it's still not bulky enough to trap things nor utilize Long Reach in any meaningful way. The owl still fucking SUCKS unless they give it Victory Dance or some shit
>>59149886>Most are less than negligible>Charge Beam still untouchedILCA HOUSE!!!!!
>>59149886They buffed BP to make matches faster and buffed PP to minimize Struggle situations and stalling out.
>>59151512Bone Rush is a move Lucario learns, that's why it got buffed. He doesn't learn Bonemerang.
>>59151309>Buffed it knowing no one would use it anywayNot what was said. Your reading comprehension skills need some work.
>>59150736Snap Trap type should change with the terrain. They clearly made it grass type because they wanted it to be used in grassy terrain along with Stunfisk's ability.
>>59151997I do genuinely think it was intended as a Carnivine move and then they changed their minds.
>>59151641I'm mad that Champions still uses the wrong attack animation.
>>59151632Enter the real trop kicker
>>59152042Legs too shortSauropods have shown evidence that they bashed their necks into each other, probably to compete for mates, like giraffes do today.Give it Trop Neck Slam
>>59150936Carnivine will always have being the GOAT of Pokemon Conquest. They can't ever take that from him.
>>59151512All the multi-hit moves need 100 accuracy. Simple fact. Any of them not is a holdover from gen 1's horrendous balance, or Rock not being allowed to have nice things on principle.Being multi-hit is not as inherently strong as GF seems to believe it is. In fact, I think it's USUALLY a downside, since beating sashes & subs is not as good, as opponents proccing on-hit abilities multiple times, and getting to eat berries between hits is bad. If Dual Chop had 100 accuracy, I STILL think people would overwhelmingly run Dragon Claw over it. The 2-5 moves also all have to deal with low rolls usually being much worse than high rolls are good. Getting a 2 hit Rock Blast means the opponent doesn't actually die to that STAB SE attack, sets up, and kills you. Getting a 5 hit is just effectively having a high crit rate, except a little shittier. While we're here, Fury Attack needs to be Flying, and Barrage needs to be Steel. No 2-5 move should have a base power under 20, 25 should be the standard. Fuck Fury Swipes for have fucking 18 base power or whatever weird ass number it has.
>>59152695Isn't there evidence that had giant air sacks, too? Or did I hallucinate reading that?
>>59151925Pretty much, once they start reintroducing the other offensive items expect battles to become breakneck levels of fast now that Megas aren't the only instant damage-bringers of any given team.
>>59152800Yeah that's right.
>>59150127as long as they don't add thick club to the game marowak can run whatever item it wants
>>59153016I agree, Marowak could run it. You can always run SD as a setup replacement for Thick Club. Then Bone Rush is always doing 120 or 150 base damage, which is pretty good.
>snap trap changed to steelChampions is still a trainwreck but any amount of love for g-stunfisk is appreciated
>>59150873>>59151387>Toxic Thread is now auto-poison that also lowers Speed by 2 stagesMega Ariados with Merciless incoming
>>59152030I think they just took out that animation entirely in SV, much like a LOT of signature moves from older mons
>>59150127Loaded Dice is nice, but you don’t need to run it.Hitting 3 times makes Bone Rush is 90 BP, which is significantly more than the previous 75 BP and only 10 less than Earthquake. Hitting 4 makes it as strong as Headlong Rush without the defense drops, and 5 times makes it hit as hard as Giga Impact.Also keep in mind, you break Substitutes, break Focus Sashes, and ignore Grassy Terrain.
>>59153794I think there was a weird case where Delphox still had its unique Mystical Fire animation for some moves, but not for Mystical Fire.
>>59150127>>59153842So if you do out the math and assume Bone Rush hits, the expect value of Bone Rush is 93 BP. That’s only slightly less damage than Earthquake normally without having to worry about Rillaboom, Focus Sash/Study, or Substitute, and can hit way harder than Earthquake too.
They are "unnerfing" Leech Seedhttps://news.pokemon-home.com/en/page/758.html
>>59154161Now I will play your freeware
>>59154161Nice. Frequent updates was one of the things I was hoping for. Right now they're just fixing bugs but I hope to see balance changes come as updates before the year is over.
>>59152030> I'm mad that Champions still uses the wrong attack animation.I haven’t gotten around to see his animation, please don’t tell me it’s the crotch arrows again
