This game is shit in every way; it hasn't had any quality control.Step 1. Mega Hawlucha use Entrainment on your partner PokemonStep 2. Pokemon now has the "No Guard" Ability and can use a move like Horn DrillStep 3. OHKO EVERYTHINGhttps://x.com/freezaiYT/status/2041904990482989100https://x.com/snacks_fruity2/status/2041880586457845879
Survival of the Fittest made manifest.Pokemon is now approved and endorsed by alpha males on Twitter who say Christ is king yet they get throbbing boners over the idea of SNAP benefits being cut for killing people in the middle east.
>>59150035That one is based to give M.Hawlucha a niche in doubles, unlike all the other bugs like the Haze bug which was somehow missed by QA testing.
>>59150035It is literally a massive niche case and easily countered by>Trick room>Tailwind>Double targeting the OHKO slot>Immunities (Ice types for sheer cold, ghosts for horn drill, flying/levitate for fissure)>Taunt on Lucha>Sturdy and Sash
There are dozens of ways of countering this combo, why are people freaking out over it?
>>59150035It's a dumb gimmick strategy that only works once against anyone competent. There are several of ways to beat this that most teams already have.
>There are so many ways to counter this>Actually they're not real counters>Actually the real counter is building around itvp at it once again
>>59150211Trick Room, Tailwind, Taunt, and basic knowledge of when to double target are all basic parts of doubles. Sash is too but also EVEN MORE likely to be ran because of how low the item pool is. This shit is a noob trap if your sole objective is "press entrainment on OHKOer turn 1"
>>59150211The strategy falls apart against any basic kind of speed control.Hell, it falls apart against fake out.
>>59150205It's actually a bit better if you stop using it as a end all and instead treat it as an optional wincon. Entrainment is actually a kinda insane support tool as not only can you use it to disrupt important abilities, but also if your opponent can't switch you can instead hit an opponent with it to guarantee they'll get OHKOed even if the OHKOer isn't on the field.It can work but it's nowhere near as broken as it seems.
This would work way better on Battle Maison tier AI than actual humans, but people are so braindead a lower ranks it will probably get you pretty far so you can actually invest in a strategy you want to use if you feel like it.
>>59150035YEAH ITS SO UNBALANCED OH NOOO! IM GOING TO PLAY SMOGON STYLE BECAUSE I PREFER THE GAME BALANCED SO I CANT GET FRUSTRATRED! ALSO I LIKE TO SUCK DICK
>>59150035>game introduces a new strategy that gives a pokemon a niche>this somehow means no quality controlThis game manages to fail on almost every single level but you managed to complain about one of the very few of not the only positive. Fucking amazing.
>>59150035>you can do something awesome in this game>"that's bad, actually">keep crying about in on social media until ILCA bans itI fucking hate you people. You can click Fake Out. Grow up.
>>59150035It's funny for me how Game Freak always tried to avoid No Guard Machamp with Fisure but then they allowed this.
The you have meowstic use prankster psychic terrain and mega Kazam use expanding force and win instantly because strats where you have to attack your own side are gimmicky bullshit
>>59152034Simple; this is infinitely more impractical and is vulnerable to the slightest bit of disruption. You're literally better off using Entrainment on your opponent and then having the OHKO mon come in later than wasting a whole turn where if either of your mons die your entire strat disintegrates.
>>59152077Not OP or that anon but I do always forget no guard also makes you get always hit.
>>59150035This is not even a real problem. Its a gimmicky strat at best.
>>59150035Isn't the correct option here to take advantage of the fact your opponent has double No Guard to just OHKO them before they OHKO you? Like you don't even need to bring No Guard since your opponent is doing it for you.
Is this the 2026 equivalent of people complaining about FEAR?
>>59150099>alpha malesYou mean the guys who get exposed as literal cucks half of the time?
>>59152104that would definitely be an option, here's the issue:you're never going to run into this. if you're going to run into bullshit it's going to be perish trap, because it's much easier to pull off and much more sadistic.
Can you actually play music from other generations?
>>59152104Yeah just let me waste a movepool option on a OHKO for the 1/100 chance I run into this meme.
>>59152104just be a little faster than either an kill them first. they're both weak af
>>59152112>half the time>look inside>the "not openly cuck ones" made their money pretending to be girls and sexting horny incelshuh? I'd say at least 85% are fags
>>59152121If Dodonzo becomes a threat it already runs fissure to deal with other dodonzos
>>59152121>he doesn't get sexual thrill from the hard read of using an opponent's strat against them to punish them for being shitters.Are you even human at this point?
>>59152121I'm running it as a middle ground strat and I will say there was something incredibly cathartic about seeing my opponent lead Hawlucha and watching my Scarfed Glalie ruin his entire strategy.
>>59152200>Scarfed GlalieI'm not sure whether to be scared or impressed.
>Mega Hawlucha exists>you are forced to guess if this is a wacky No Guard Sheer Cold strat or if Hawlucha is just going to punch your Amoongus in the throat while Lapras baits both of your attacks with a ProtectThis is the trve power of Mega Hawlucha
This is gay and anyone defending it is gay
>>59152214OHKO Hawlucha before it does anything?
>>59150099Dividing and conquering your base against you? Literal shill behavior.Fuck off.
>>59152214Just kill it first?
>>59152214How does entrainment interact with redirection?
>>59152304The thing is if you use follow me and his team uses entrainment+sheer cold your follow me user will die because it gets no guard before getting targeted with sheer cold lol
>>59152304Gets redirected. The thing is this also means the redirector is now liable to get one shot.
>>59150196>>59150233>>59150224I love how in this scenarios, (You) are the only person able to think. The other person is just a bot who can't tell just by looking at your picks that you are going to Fake Out/TR/whatever and kill you before you do it, and instead will just click the same moves regardless.
bump
>>59150196Mega Clefable's magic bounce gives you No Guard and not to his teamate.
>>59152368The problem is, Mega Hawlucha is a good pokemon, and so are a lot of OHKO-capable users. This isn’t berry juice recycle magnemite where if you don’t get the setup just right you get steamrolled, you can still USE mega lucha and Excadrill and do well. That means you have a lot of opportunities to position it.Remember also No Guard goes both ways. I don’t have to have No Guard on Exca. I can put it on you, and then if you don’t switch you WILL eat the OHKO when Exca arrives.
>110 HP>60 in defenses >88 SpeedIt's been 16 years and this thing is still a fucking problem people cannot surmount for 1 reason or another.
>>59150035>protect>ghost/flying type>tauntI don't play doubles that much but this shit seems less annoying and impractical than Dark Void spam
>>59154392Dark void spam was handled in much the same way>prankster taunt>hit smeargle with anything because it’s made of tissue paperThe problem with dark void spam, like with this, is every team HAS to carry an answer, there’s basically no way to play around the matchup if you can’t outspeed oneshot the OHKOer.
>>59150035Wouldn't Sheer Cold Ninetales be faster?
Obviously the solution is get something faster than Hawlucha, give it a different ability first, and it infects it's teammate with it.
