Now that the smoke has settledIs it shit?
>>59151418Yes
I enjoy playing it but it is a shit game
As someone who hasn’t played competitive Pokemon since XY and had zero stuff to transfer into Champions I think it’s really fun. One thing tho is that the 7 dollar starter pack is mandatory and I know everyone here are broke boys who will seethe at that.
there is quite literally no positive to the game. none.
>>59151463*if you’re poor
>>59151418It's a big stinking pile of shit, yes.
it’s probably the worst thing I’ve installed on my switch. it’s a shame the entire competitive platform for pokemon has to suck dick because asian kids need to be able to play it on their phones.
Even PBR is better than this shit, and that game was barebones
>>59151418>less pokemon than plassyeah its a shit
>>59151418Compare it to Showdown and you'll have your answer.
It's pretty much what I've wanted out of a battling game except with a massive hole in the form of single player content and generally letting players play how they want.>what is in the gameI think it's quite good. The graphics are fine to me and the presentation to still basically be like X and Y never really bothered me. I feel no real incentive/need to purchase the battle pass or the membership because I'm an infrequent battler. I have never felt the need to go to a regional and the most battling I do is non-current gen local battles with people I meet.No one is talking about this but the title system or achievements is really nice. Something that they really should have been pushing for all along yes, but now it's here, it's kind of cool since they implemented it so well. I know ZA had something like it, but it seemed very limited.>what isn't in the game, but really should beMentioned it before, but single player content. For me, it would have been a day 1 purchase if they had some form of Battle Tower or something akin to what we used to see in Emerald/Platinum.I played some private battles with my friend. While it's just generally fun to battle friends, what I didn't like was that not only was there not a way to do custom battle rules (you have to play BSS or VGC), you also couldn't swap the rules in the middle of your room. You have to close your room and open it back up with different rules and then share a new ID code each time. That sucks, and the only way I would understand that being the case was if the rules could be customized.>bugsNo one likes bugs for this and it is honestly kind of strange that this game introduced bugs that were never in the game before. However, since this is a live service game, I completely expect them to fix all of them in the next month as they need to in order to make this game viable long-term.
having to fight bots its extremely unfun also dont just remove whimsicott, murder whimsicott
>>59151485>monetizationWanted to add in this topic as well but for once this feels like a F2P game that absolutely doesn't even validate itself as something that you need to spend money on, provided you have HOME. Gaining VP is trivial and maybe if I was a more competitive player, I'd adjust my stats and moves much more often. Outside of VP however, I have not used the recruitment or quick training tickets whatsoever, of which it seems you get more of with purchasing something within the game.My final thoughts on it after a day is that it's not really wow-ing me in the same way that I would have if they did Stadium 3, which was what the game seemed to be directly compared to in its reveal trailer. It's just something else to play, which doesn't really go far enough for a series that has as much data and makes as much money as this.
>>59151418Does it matter, you and everyone else will play it anyway. Personally I think the game has issues but they are fixable, nothing major. The worst thing is the 30FPS lock.
>>59151491feels so patronizing that if you dare to lose once you get hit with the scary face spam charizard
>>59151505>you and everyone else will play it anywaylollmao
>>59151505Why would I ever l play this when I could hop on showdown?
>>59151485This is fair, dogpiling is fun and all but the game itself isn't as bad as people make it out to be. For me the biggest surprise is how generous it is, I was expecting full jew from the game, but I don't even feel compelled to buy the battle pass. I feel like I have more than enough space to make multiple competitive teams, we get more space from ranking up, there are a ton of tickets and VP from missions etc...The bugs are trash but the performance has been solid which to me is the biggest thing. Bugs can be fixed overnight, performance cannot. So the game running this solid is a huge positive
>>59151516Now this is shillracing
>>59151516the game is 30fps dude the performance is ass
>>59151513>Bro thinks Showdown is gonna last another yearLol, lmao. Nintendo lawyers are drafting up the C&D right now, no fucking way they allow a free fan game to compete with their mainline product.
>>59151520What's the FPS on Showdown?
>>591515311 million frame per second!!
>>59151516I almost think that they actually just failed to make a good monetization system out of pure incompetence as opposed to generosity. They severely misunderstood how much of a focus people were going to put on cosmetic things since VP can be spend in large quantities on that as opposed to training, so you'd ideally buy the battle passes and the memberships with all of the added bonuses to avoid that.
>>59151526I've been reading posts like this for at least decade now.
>>59151547this time it's different. two more weeks
>>59151418its shit, while it was hyped up as an official showdown game, its more of a shittier stadium or battle revolution.
>>59151418It's great and so is ZA.>>59151554>shittier stadiumThat's why I like it.
>>59151558>ZAOh and that's another thing I didn't point out about the rental system too. Apparently Mega-Floette is the most efficient nuke in the format currently but it's exclusive to owning a particular game... once again introducing the issue that VGC players had with needing to play one specific game in the Switch era to have access to a particular species.
>>59151547Pokemon didn't have an official battle sim a decade ago retardbro. It does now.
>>59151543It’s weird the monetization is so focused on gameplay-relevant things (more box room, more team slots, etc.) instead of cosmetics.If there was a full premium store full of costumes, music, arena skins, and so on they’d probably be raking it in. Right now if someone wants to whale they cap out at $67 because there’s nothing else to spend on.
I haven't played it, does it suffer from the same cancer menuing that TCG pocket suffered from? where you had to click 5 next times to do anything and each press was followed by a loading screen for some fucking reason? is ILCA somehow superior to DeNA?
>>59151574the one thing I’ll give it is the menus are fairly cleanyou’re maybe 3 button presses away from anything in the game at any time
>>59151418It's fucking terrible, one of the worst launches for a game I've ever seen in a while
>>59151418It's fun, and it's very easy to never pay.In fact, they're gonna have to update with more content next month because everyone is gonna have all the mega stones and important items unlocked in 30 days, whether or not they paid anything.
It'll probably be decent eventually. They need to:-Fix the bugs with the battle mechanics to make it consistent with the main games-Add the rest of the hold items-Add more pokemon (~400 is needed for a healthy meta IMO)-Some kind of offline battle tower would be nice-Remove the bots from rankedThat's my bar. If they can hit that I'll come back.
>>59151977If the bots are only on poke ball tier I don't think they're an issue. (I don't know if this is the case or not)
>>59151977They really should add more items and mons even if they're locked to private rooms
>>59152002NTA but given the history of other pokemon games they're probably there even at the highest rank
>>59151418>Is it shit?Absolutely, can't believe I was even slightly hyped for Champions
>>59151568People were saying shit like that when PBR released
>>59151471Most phones these days offer better performance than a ps4 the hardware isnt why these games are bad
>>59151418Needs bugs fixed and 6v6 so everyone is happy.All other criticisms are not as valid.Pokemon and item pool are probably on purpose so newer players have lesser options and can adjust easily. Then again locking Mega floette behind Z-A is kinda ass.
>>59151448>One thing tho is that the 7 dollar starter pack is mandatory and I know everyone here are broke boys who will seethe at that.Id rather pay 80 for a battle sim that actually looks and feels nice than play this garbage
>>59151418Stadium 2 mogs it
>>59151491>having to fight bots its extremely unfunYou gotta understand normies lose their mind if their win rate is anywhere close to 50% let alone lower. A normie needs close to a 70-75 % win rate to even start to feel like they're having fun
>>59151491ngl I did read somewhere that AI takes over when your opponent DCs. So it's entirely possible you're just fighting people who went afk.
>>59152231tell that to the unite normalfags who go below 40% even with quick matches and free win bot matches (that they also lose)
>>59152255my bad, I have no idea what I'm doing in any MOBA and I only downloaded unite because I like Cramorant
>>59151448>implication of poornessEvery time.You know you're a subhuman paypiggy, I know you're a subhuman paypiggy, everyone knows you're a subhuman paypiggy. It's time you learned to accept that without having to come up with excuses to make yourself feel better about your life choices.
Horrible launch. Some things can and will be fixed, but I doubt it will stop looking like or run like garbage. Coming up with a good artstyle so that things don't look like cheap plastic can't be that hard.
>>59151418I’m more annoyed at how shit the new megas are. Like holy fuck it has to be intentional
>>59152299uh oh, sagie is having a melty again.
>>59152448Im fully convinced that all the people praising ZA were just shills. Ive seen romhacks get more organic and longer lasting praise.
>>59151448>One thing tho is that the 7 dollar starter pack is mandatory and I know everyone here are broke boys who will seethe at that.it wouldnt be if they just charged 10$ to even buy the game and all that stuff would be in it already.
>>59152947well duh. It’s a legends game anon. What did you expect out of a non-pmd spinoff?
>>59152099This. Skip the f2p bs just let me buy a working product once
>>59152099I’ve always wondered why the battles are like a terrarium with the battle working in the background and a video is shown that is an approximation of what’s happening, but made to look cinematic.Example>one mon uses ice beam, the other uses flamethrower>game calculates the results of the turn>if one mon faints it is shown both these moves happening at same time, firing into eachother, and one overpowering the other >if the ice beam goes first and k/o’s the flamethrower before they can even act, it will still show they using flamethrower, but just have the ice beam cut through the fire and get the k/o in a cinematic way
>>59153183*arent Fuck autocorrect Mons mins mins mons mons mons mons
yes
They need to remove singles as a playable game mode
