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Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch with a mobile release later. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.

SWITCH 2 UPDATE: Launch the game in handheld mode to get the performance boost (can still play docked after). Still 30FPS, however.

>News
Small bug fix patch: https://news.pokemon-home.com/ja/page/758.html
Warm Up Challenge online competition registration open, battles this weekend, Gardevoir gift
Free Machamp mystery gift code: CHAMP10N
Season 1 runs until May 13
Mobile release possibly leaked for June

>Links
https://champions.pokemon.com/en-us/
https://x.com/Pokemon_Champs (EN) https://x.com/Poke_Champ_jp (JP)
Pokémon data: https://serebii.net/pokedex-champions/
Available mons: https://www.serebii.net/pokemonchampions/pokemon.shtml
Mega abilities: https://serebii.net/pokemonchampions/megaabilities.shtml

Quick FAQ
>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?
No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.
>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?
All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.
>Is there single player content?
No.
>What battle gimmicks are in?
Only megas for now.
>What's the starter pack?
US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 quick coupons, 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music.
>Is anything locked behind a paywall?
So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Mega Kalos starters and E-Floette require ZA transfer.

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>>59154417
Why should I not just play Showdown?
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Shit game
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Beautiful children with my employee Tatora
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>>59154426
Player base + fresh
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My wife
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IT'S UP
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>>59154426
Does Showdown have a Reg M-A format yet? Have they implemented the updated moves, abilities, item changes, and alterations to PP and EV systems?
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>>59154426
uhhhhhhhhh.....I'll get back to you on that one
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>>59154439
looks like a tranny
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>>59154439
Too pretty
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>leech seed is actually 1/8 and it is a typo
At least this gets addressed fast
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>>59154417
>patch notes
>Leech Seed un-nerfed
Wait, based?
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They Removed all of the Starters except Gen 1!!
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No one's running protect. I am returning to my home planet.
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>Gallade still female
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>>59154461
Protect is mostly a doubles thing now that stall got widely gutted. Do you even play hazards in 3v3?
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>>59154439
Fugly
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>Opponent thinks they're free to switch into my Mega Starmie with their Milotic
>Thunderbolt starts vaporising it anyway
This fucker is so entertaining to use.
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>>59154456
It was never nerfed in the first place. They gave wrong move description.
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I kind of want to use Whismicott even though I don't really like it. But I don't want the cool kids to make fun of me for meta team-building.
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Anyone want to set up a VGC room?
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>>59154472
To be honest, it could mean both things
>they made a typo
>they intended to nerf it, but didn't tweak the effect
Turns out it's the first one
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Playing singles
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hey we got nothing for the maint
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>>59154463
hazards are surprisingly good in singles
worst case scenario it breaks sash which is guaranteed to be on every team with how shitty the items are
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>>59154475
Use it to do silly shit instead of setting Tailwind.
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>>59154481
yeah, its one of those games...
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>Garbodor admirer
Based
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the meta is already so stale oooh brother come on
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i use zard + venusaur and i'm proud
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>>59154475
I pioneered specs whimsicott on showderp and smogon later added it as an official set.

It's fun.
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Dammit I'm actually having fun throwing my own dogshit teams together and playing comp for the first time
Anyone have any advice for running farig?
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>>59154518
You want to open with it or switch it in if you see a fake outer. Not a great end gamer
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>>59154500
Aren't you happy we took out 400+ mons and items
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>>59154525
>400
Try 800+
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I need cosmetics to remove this stupid rotom headset fucker
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>>59154530
This. Can we at least change the color
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Anyone knows if it's possible to start anew? I tried deleting the save data but it still persists. There doesn't seem to be a wipe clean button just like Masters
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>>59154445
yes its on the custom server
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So there are no levels in this game?
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>>59154518
My favorite Farig set is a meme but it can’t be run (throat spray hyper voice). Just run Foul Play and use it to negate priority attacks.
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Does anyone have a spare Meowstic Male (has to be a male) on Scarlet / Violet? I would like to trade for one to bring into Champions. I do not want to gamble for one. I got a shiny Delphox last night, and would like to try a psychic surge + skill swap combo. I have a plethora of OT shinies and Master Balls to trade.

I got bored of Scarlet and Violet, and really, really don't want to complete the mask DLC to unlock the indigo disk to catch one. I hate the stupid DLC kids. FUCK THEM.
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>>59154550
Im running at as my main threat alongside an alola raichu that sets up psychic terrain for the expanding force and cofag in the back for trick room
Actually made someone forfeit was pretty proud of that one
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>>59154542
Settings > Data Management > Delete Save Data should've worked.
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>>59154551
Sure, I can go catch one for you since I have nothing better to do. Do you have a preferred ball?
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Any good sets of teams I can just pkhex into a game and transfer to home so I don't need to spend any vp at all?
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Why shouldn’t I go bright powder + sand veil?
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>>59154439
Nobody is drawing her
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>>59154567
You are the absolute goat. Any ball will do. Thank you so much : )

Trade on S/V work?
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Lol someone just used Rage Powder on my Whimsi, to protect her Dragonite, but my Moonblast still hit her Dragonite. lmao, I won.
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so sick of gay ass nigga incin
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>>59154561
At the switch settings, right? I tried that but I am still back on my previous account when I boot into the game
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>>59154585
I haven't renewed my switch online sub in a minute. We can always trade on home mobile?
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We're back!
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>>59154602
When I did it, it prompted me when I booted up the game about overwriting. Maybe + on the game itself and check the backup status?
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>>59154615
>singles
buddy
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>train a mega chesnaught for the sand matchup (you also get a free mega stone when you transfer him in!)
>get flinched three times and win anyways
fucking bitch ass ttar
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>>59154604
Absolutely, just need to log in on my phone real quick.
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>everyones just playing the same ass shit even in low ranks
vgc is like that..? that's boring.
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>>59154622
LETS GOOOO
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>>59154624
Finally got it. You can deposit it whatever on GTS and I'll snipe it
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>>59154618
Guess I need to try it later when I get back home
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>>59154640
And just tell me what to look for lol
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>>59154640
Thank you again, put a timburr up on GTS for it.
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Whoever you pick as your starter will determine whatever sides you get. Pretty helpful for those who don't want to import from Home
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>>59154649
Just sent over, have fun!
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Based team, A, I may as well say I lost
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Fuck it, might as well. I have Violet (+DLC) and Legends Arceus. Does anyone want anything? I'll do some catching for the next hour or so
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Are you using Modest or Timid Gardevoir? Mega or non-mega? I'm going through my old gen 6 and 7 games to look for stuff to transfer over. My Charizard Y is modest too...
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>>59154662
Do you have the 7-star Primarina?
I have an extra 7-star Blaziken I think.
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>>59154666
You mean when they did the mightiest mark stuff? I haven't touched the game in a while so I missed out on a good number of those
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>>59154670
Yeah Primarina is the only one I am missing out of all of them and I traded to have some duplicates because I never thought they'd be re-running the events at all. I think I'd be waiting until June to get it.
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>>59154554
Yeah, it's nice that they at least bothered with showing sizes in this game. Here's a comparison between my XS vs Alpha (Mega) Froslass.
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>>59154683
Froslass has a big ass head
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Any reason to choose female basculegion?
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>log in
>win with Scarf Chomp sweep
>get promoted
>log out
it's just that easy
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>>59154683
I can't decide if I should use an Alpha or an M size. I kinda got used to her towering over me in ZA but she kinda looks goofy being this gigantic.
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>>59154623
Can I put a Chesnaught from my XY into Bank, transfer to Home, then put it in Champions and get the megastone? Or does it have to come from Legends Z-A?
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People will send out mega evolvable pokemon and just never activate them, what gives. They're not even bots, I see them lock in their teams before me during team selection. Like did you really have something planned for your regular Absol before I outsped it and mowed it down in one hit
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>>59154664
Modest for Mega, Timid for Scarf.
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>>59154706
Normalfags and little timmies trying out free new pokemon.
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>>59154662
id like kingambit and palafin but i dont really have anything to offer back...
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Faggot grass cat got a paralyze off his thunder punch and it procced instantly the one turn after, giving him the win at 1 hp. I've paralyzed and it's never procced for me once in over 50 battles.
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>>59154426
You should to remember why it looks like dogshit next to Champions and come back to fork out the cash
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Can anyone beat S????
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>>59154714
yeah I haven't gotten a freeze off yet. that's just how it goes.
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I just wanted one win with Pikachu, that was it
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>>59154706
I got btfo'd today when a guy suddenly mega evolved his Tyranitar that had been on the field for a few turns after I had just gotten rid of the Sandstorm with my own weather. The mega reset the Sand without switching out and fucked me in the ass.
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>>59154717
Uhhh yeah I might join again later, I'll transfer some more mons in the meantime
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i want to use mega raichu already goyfreak
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>>59154714
I lost an entire match because Faggotatr body slam paralyzed and instantly broke my mon's back that was about to kill it. That's the luck of the draw.
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my game is fucking up
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The more I play this, the less fun it is. The higher up you go the more meta sweat there is.
>Just play casual
LMAO
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>>59154714
and didnt they reduce the fully paralyzed chance to like 12.5% lmao
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>>59154712
I have those just sitting my box. Just put whatever in Home's mobile GTS and let me know what it is for the trade
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Would M-Meganium do alright in a Snow team? It's got the means to swing at all of Ice's weaknesses.
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>>59154706
Sometimes I forget to press R.
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thx for playing but I have work tomorrow so I need to get going to bed
I really need to stop using Meteor Beam Aerodactyl primarily because I have to rely on Hurricane so much, not even the two-turn charge move.
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>>59154706
The game is genuinely full of 70IQ people who have never touched competitive mons before. It might even have been Mega Absol and they were just using their bro
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>>59154518
I’m just using it as my Trick Room setter
decently tanky and Armor Tail shuts down all the Incineshitters
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>>59154530
what’s it even for
they acted like he’d be popping up with matchup tips and shit, but as far as I can tell it never does anything
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>>59154739
holy tysm
just put up a darumaka ice for kingambit
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>get frozen
>thaw my next turn
Uh what?
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>>59154752
Sent over, have fun!
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>>59154756
its a 25% chance to thaw each turn you try and use a move now
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>>59154756
Frozen is just Ice Sleep now.
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HOW
DO PEOPLE
LAND FREEZE
SO OFTEN
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Fuck hisuian arcanine is so cool. It makes me want to get pokemon legends arceus
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>>59154706
I have a nephew who saves up mega before the last moments. Think of it as a shonen move
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incineroar
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>>59154738
Considering they admitted the number of Leech Seed is a typo, there's probably more than meets the eyes
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INCELROAAAAAAAAAR
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Fuck, I just realized I'm going to have to shiny hunt a lopunny in arceus since they're not SV.
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>>59154760
got it thanks a million bro!
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>>59154780
good luck, I've had mine since platinum
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>>59154780
They are in ZA, dingo. You can easily farm an alpha too.
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>>59154703
I don't fucking know
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>>59154785
I should have hunted one a lot earlier

>>59154786
I don't have ZA. Only SV + Acrecus.
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>>59154794
Then get ZA you need it for Mega Floette anyways.
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FUCK Ceaseless Miss and it's 50% accuracy
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>>59154780
I have some extras in ZA but I don't know how to trade if you don't have ZA
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>get pissed off at every team running Incin so I decide to make a rain team
>suddenly every team i’m ranked against is running archaludon and mega meganium and milotic and sinistcha
>switch back to original team
>incin
>incin
>incin
Fuck you. I demand you cease this at once.
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Anyone run into people named "Trainer" with all shiny pokemon?
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is this game any good?? i hear it’s 30 fps in the big 2026
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>opponent hasn’t mega’d yet
>sends out Gengar
>use Poltergeist on it
>fails because its not holding anything
what the fuck
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>>59154817
>30fps 720p
>doesn't give you a lot of mons to play with
>lots of mons aren't allowed in the game
Kusoge. Wait for WW.
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What are some good mons to run alongside Glimmora and Milotic?
I've been relying on ceruledge but getting his sash broke or dealing with shit that doesn't trigger weak armor can suck. Also poltergeist missing causes me physical pain. First 3 times I used it were all misses.
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>>59154798
Eh, don't feel like doing all that just for a floette

>>59154801
I've just been using Home's GTS on mobile to trade with people. You don't need to get it set up though - not sure I have anything worthwhile to give in return
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if you run perish trap i genuinely hope you get the worst type of cancer
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the game looks like dogshit
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>>59154811
Post team
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>>59154811
why aren't you a cute girl
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>>59154818
>complaining about the meta being stale
>complaining about players not using meta
There's no pleasing you people lmao
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>>59154823
Run them on a sand team with TTar and Excadrill. Use Milotic as an answer to rain and sun. Throw in a Mega Meganium and whatever 6th fucker you want to tech in. Maybe Sneasler to punch Incineroar and spread status with Dire Claw. That’s what I would do anyways
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>>59154818
was it an actual player? I've noticed npc's dont usually hold items
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>>59154417
A former VGC world champ ranked the mega choices for this season. How does it stack up with your observations, anons?
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>>59154817
No but it is free and if you're newer to the comp scene like I am everything is a lot less complicated at the moment because there's barely any mons or held items
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>>59154818
Bamboozled
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What battle music is everyone using? It’s the RSE trainer theme for me.
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>>59154833
Do I keep mega stones on all 4? I love using MGlimmora but I've been having better success waiting to evolve it until toxic debris get proc'd.
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>hardstuck Ultra 3-4
It’s like i’m playing MOBA’s all over again
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>>59154837
>scovillain in B
burning almost anything that even looks in your direction is great, wtf. granted, it would be better if it could burn other fire types
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>>59154818
speaking of unorthodox sets...
Whenever Ursaluna comes to the game, it'll be fun to run Choice Band Guts Ursaluna just to have the occasional opponent burning you to blunt your offenses only to be pulverized into atoms by your next attack
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>>59154733
>The higher up you go the more meta sweat there is
That's how ranked works.
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>>59154837
Is this image for ants on fucking phones from 2005?
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>>59154837
Don't see TTar and Glimmora in A. They don't seem that good.
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>>59154826
Man I've got so many of these. I don't care what you give me as long as they go to a home. If you want some other shinies too if you like. You want me to fully evolve them first or you want them as is?
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>>59154853
Mega Scovillain is not that good. It gets destroyed Talonflame.
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Is regular Starmie just fucking slower than everyone? I've got max speed and I still lose priority to everything.
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>>59154837
That is the highest I've seen mega beedrill in any tierlist.
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>>59154865
by Talonflame*
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>>59154849
If you’re using Mega Glim then you probably don’t need Mega stones on any of the others. TTar can do fine without a stone, he’s a Pseudo. Excadrill is fine megaless too. Sand Rush + Iron Head and Ground STAB will deal with most things, and it can always just click Rock Slide and fish for flinch. Maybe instead of Mega Meganium you can run something like Tailwind Whimsicott or a Redirector like Sinistcha. It’s best to build a team around a Mega.
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>>59154866
Its slow to take advantage of Analytic
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Well, turns out Delphoxite is locked behind transferring a Delphox from Legends Z-A into home, and then into Pokemon Champions. I don't own a switch 2. Fuck my life. I spent the past 2 hours cooking up this team only to just find this out.
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>>59154650
Which one’s the best?
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>>59154861
Damn, then I'd be willing to take one of your hands. Appreciate evolving one can be a pain in the ass so I can do it. I have a shiny klefki or fletichnder if you want
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>>59154417
Trash, unironically worst showdown LMAO
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>>59154792
no prob bro i'll try it myself later and report back in the thread to let y'all know
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>>59154853
It's actually higher than what most people would say.
I think that for VGC that it's a fair rating since you're giving up a more offensive Mega to spread burns. In Singles, it's a bit too high since Scovillain doesn't get Synthesis and can only really burn things like 1 or 2 times.
If it did learn Synthesis, it should be way higher.
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I have sex with Primarina every time she whistles
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arCHUDbridge dies
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>>59154880
TRUVKE
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>>59154748
Then why the fuck are they even here in the first place? You don’t know how to play, play something you do
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>>59154703
Z-A yes
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>>59154875
I'm giving shiny fennekins if you want one or I can evolve it to a Delphox.
>>59154878
I'll take a Klefki. Two trades so the second can be whatever. I'm assuming levels don't matter in Champions so I didn't bring it up to Lv50.
>trading room is locked behind premium
Can you make a room?
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>>59154900
oh dang, that's odd, is there a specific thing it checks? or like what's the difference between a Z-A one and an XY one?
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>scammed 4 wins in a row with crits
I love this game
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>>59154896
It's Pokemon and it's free. That's all some people need
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>>59154817
it's pretty meh
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>>59154896
I'm learning and I like the gacha
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>>59154902
Yeah, levels don't matter in champions. Trade Room ID is 7922 8851 6689 Appreciate it!
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>>59154837
Blastoise is just wrong and I guarantee it'll be more popular as people catch on
Shell Smash+Water Spout alongside Follow Me/Fake Out feels extremely strong
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>>59154748
that's me. I'm a fat chud who never played vgc before
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>>59154870
I've never used megas online before, just did a little SV pvp.
When you mega evolve the speed boost factor only starts counting on the next turn, right? That's how it's felt so far
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I could legit use a guide or two to get back to VGC. 3v3 and 4v4 are two different beasts altogether to learn
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>>59154913
> Learning they auto close trade rooms
The fuck? The new one is 2660 8772 1546
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>>59154724
Could have been me lol
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>>59154903
Origin mark. Every Pokémon since I want to say Gen 6 has a little symbol representing the generation or game it came from.
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>>59154921
>joined
>closed for some reason
Give me about 15 minutes. I need to get a quick bite.
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>>59154924
oh dang, well thanks for letting me know before I waste my time leveling them in XY
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incineroar is so fraudulent
I should have completely lost a match but the opponent's prankster whimsicott tried to encore my fake out and got blocked by dark type. I didn't even know dark type shits on prankster
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>>59154929
It has some small ass timer for no reason so probably kicked you since there was like 2 seconds on the clock left. Just let me know when you're free and I'll make a new one
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>>59154896
half the point of this game existing is to keep the interest in vgc growing, new blood is a good thing, some will quit, some will stay and ideally the overall playerbase will keep expanding
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>>59154932
Yeah it's a very stupid specific immunity that I hate because it's so unelegant.
>immune to one ability
Okay. Everything else is immunity to a status condition or category of move.
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private single battle
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>>59154918
I’m not sure because apparently the way Mega Evolving works is different in Champions and the order the mega animations play in is apparently random. I’d assume it follows the modern rules of Dynamic speed the same as anything else but fuck if I know for sure.
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>>59154943
>I’m not sure because apparently the way Mega Evolving works is different in Champions and the order the mega animations play in is apparently random
That got fixed. It's in speed order.
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>>59154932
>>59154940
You have Sableye to blame for the nerf to Prankster. Still I guess it's proper for Dark type to call out your bluffs
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I wonder how doable the game will be completely isolated from Home.
>start game
>get initially showered with vp and tickets
>have to deal with the gacha until you get what you want
>that's just your team now
>play that
I've seen people complain how the game keeps sending pity sandbag bots but the devs clearly wants you to get vp somehow to patch your team up.
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>>59154937
Back.
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>>59154948
Last maintenance fixed that? That's cool, but is Switch still happening before Mega?
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I wonder if I can get Bellydrum/Snorlax to work. Or if he’s relegated to be a Entrainment gmmick runner without the other items.
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>>59154960
Cool, new room ID is 5287 9641 9905
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>>59154955
Depending on who you pick as the starter, you can have a good start. I'd say they are pretty reasonable with the teams instead of giving you real janks like Watchog >>59154650
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>>59154896
>Anon discovers the concept of "learning"
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>>59154955
it could be fun. The problem with home is that I definitely have choice paralysis on what to try
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>>59154965
Am I supposed to tap something after I enter? I tapped your icon and mine but nothing happened.
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>>59154955
I played the game and somehow reached ultra ball rank without a single Home transfer pokemon.
It works well when you got lucky with recruitment plus they gave you enough VPs or tickets to train pokemon.
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>>59154942
ggs thanks for the mission.
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>>59154973
I just searched what a trade room is and it's not what we thought... It's just localized wonder trade
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>>59154977
GG my dogs
private single battle
join the room
9016 0142
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>>59154955
>I've seen people complain how the game keeps sending pity sandbag bots but the devs clearly wants you to get vp somehow to patch your team up.
It's not an uncommon thing for bots to populate the early ranks. Those fucks are definitely PvP virgins
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>lost every single speed tie
yeah gg just kill me I guess
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>>59154979
So put them in the wonder box and it'll auto trade?
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>>59154979 (Me)
Unrelated but I found a fucking shiny abra. Lmao I hate Arceus

I'm pretty sure wonder box will just trade it automatically. If you just do GTS, I'll come in quickly with the klefki
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>>59154989
>>59154992
Meant for second half
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>>59154955
if you aren’t buying cosmetics the game absolutely showers you in VP
your team comps will obviously be limited at the start but after a bit you should have everything you need
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>>59154986
>use Focus Blast
>misses
>lose game
Skill based game btw
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>>59154837
Another tier list from @FedeCampoVGC
>2023 Worlds Top 4 | 2025 NAIC Champion | 2025 Gdansk Regional Champion | 2x GC Champion

Some players are on the fence over Froslass standing but Floette, Zard Y, Gengar meta seems to the current understanding.
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>>59154992
Deposited Lopunny. I didn't put a range for gender or level.
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You guys keep saying the game showers you in VP but keep in mind this is the beginning and you're getting a lot of VP for achievements that won't be there later or will be a lot harder later on. The game shits out VP for winning 10 matches with a Pokemon or type but then those will change to 100 matches.
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>>59155002
Tournament results from a 173 player private Spanish tour. Mega Golurk took the prize. Earlier we saw a 500-player tour where Mega Delphox got first place and a japanese tour where Zard Y got the first place.
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>>59154974
Yeah I only bring it up because of I assume the huge influx of normalfags that try out the mobile version. I don't think anyone with any intent to play the game will care about the doomposting and e-celebs trashing the game. I assume all the jank will be patched out by then and they'd add in more Pokémon and items when the mobile version arrives.
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So champions roster just further confirms that GF loves weather wars above all else right?
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Fuck playing this after a long day of work
Can't even chill and zone out with this, I keep making bot plays like forgetting my opponent has a 4th guy cuz he keeps switching and I already killed 2

I didn't Mega my Zard Y against T-Tar/Drill when he led with Rotom/Drill and switched T-Tar in after
I both Tar & Drill down to red HP, he switched in Incineroar
I get ready to double down on Roar, expecting T-Tar to switch in, so I don't mega as not to waste the Sun, but he switches Roar for Rotom and I lose all momentum and just forfeit there

Had I remembered he had Rotom I could've Megad into Solar Beam and had my Venusaur finish off Drill, then polished off the weakened T-Tar and Roar with Earthpower and Weather Ball, but fuck me I guess
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>>59155006
Damn, I must have gotten sniped. I don't see it
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Does health or defense/sp defense matter more for survivability?
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>>59154439
she ugly
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>>59154979
Give me a gender and lvl range. Someone else took it.
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behead whimsicott users
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>>59154986
literally kept missing moves while the other opponent landed all the paralyzes in the world. I'm just so whatever man.
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>>59155020
this but sneasler and archaludon users
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>>59155019
40-50 (43), female
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I got ultra ball singles in 43 wins
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I'm playing singles. The only cats here are cute and green. It's peaceful.
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>>59155024
GO GO GO
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>>59154981
Half the complainers are just live service virgins. Or they have experienced live service doing live service things and it's only bad when Pokémon does it. Drip feeding is just how it works. If they told me every new mega evolution ability I would have stopped paying attention yesterday. And the limited pool is obviously supposed to mimic a regional dex or a season. Watch the crying when they do a season where suddenly Incineroar or Mega Floette or Archaludon aren't allowed in ranked matches.
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>>59155028
Tysm anon! I was refreshing it just to make sure I got it in time lmao. I now need to catch this god damn shiny abra that I wasn't expecting.
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>>59154986
>Dire Claw puts me to sleep at the worst possible time
VGC entry ritual
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>>59154417
>Launch the game in handheld mode to get the performance boost (can still play docked after).
are you dumb, whether you start it in portable then dock it or just start it docked makes no difference, the only thing boost mode does is use the switch 1 docked mode in handheld
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>they nerfed focus sash Mimikyu
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>>59155031
Np anon. It's such a convoluted trading system. That was more stressful than it needed to be. Thanks for Klefki.
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Aerodactyl or glimmora as my antisun?
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>>59155036
It's got nothing to do with boost mode, it's an error with the game applying the Switch 2 patch
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>be too lazy to EV train in the main games and pass my team to champions
>use the scout mons
> I'm gettin steamrolled by kids with megaluke
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>>59155009
>only golurk across 16 times
what a chad, I kneel
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>>59155050
I thought the switch 2 patch just isn't out, and games with switch 2 patches are outright unaffected by boost mode
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>>59155009
I think a big problem with lists like this is the same as VGC vs online doubles, you're fighting different people who prioritize differently vs the ladder and there's a different level of preparedness. No one is bringing entrainment hawlucha to this but you 100% should be able to deal with it on the ladder
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If you use Floette just know that no one loves you, and everyone will celebrate your death.
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>>59155002
When Z-A was new I was daydreaming how awesome mega clefable was going to be
oh well..
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>>59155009
Is this singles or doubles? I can't tell
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Why does Haze fully heal me?
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>>59155068
It's really really good in BSS, especially when yawn + rocks hippo is the current meme, however BSS is awful
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>>59155066
my floette is proof I do hate myself, for doing all those battle royales
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>>59155073
They thought it needed a buff.
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>>59154417
You know what's some bullshit?
Everyone is looking for any little thing to shit on showdown. 30fps, not a full roster, held items missing, etc.
But you haven't heard a SINGLE person complain about the number one thing people bitched about the VGC since 2001
Disqualification/removal of generated Pokémon. That's because champions doesn't do any checks cause it essentially makes a copy of your Pokémon and makes them legitimate for use in champions. You can literally generate a level 1 Charizard on the 3ds and transfer them to bank, home then to champions.
Funny how the people who would be on their soapbox if there was any outright denial of suspected mons are completely silent.
I fucking hate the western Pokémon vgc community.
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>>59155045
>XL
Damn, this is one big bunny. I hope you'll find some out of Klefki. Reminds me of the good old gen 6 days
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>>59155087
>But you haven't heard a SINGLE person complain about the number one thing people bitched about the VGC since 2001
>Disqualification/removal of generated Pokémon.
nigga this is like the number one thing vgc players cry about
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>>59155054
I could hop on ZA or SV but I want to do the gacha instead
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>>59155087
>pokemon genned with uber stats
>moved to Champions
>get screened to meet the standards
I don't see the issues unless it keeps the moves for shenanigans like Fissure Machamp
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>>59155087
Champions not showdown lol. I did gen alot of that flower from ZA. Mostly because I was tilted that gamefreak still allows retards on the GTS to request the Pokémon they put up for trade. So it's nothing but a bunch of fags showing off. At least the GO dog haircuts could backfire if that one dude that had that specific varient decided to trade you.
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>>59155044
That was in gen 8 iirc
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>>59154527
Come on bro you weren't going to use fucking swadloon in ranked
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>Incineroar
>Incineroar
>Incineroar
>Incineroar
>Incineroar
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP
FUCKING RETARDED CAT
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>>59155088
Technically it's an alpha but yeah big Loppy.
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>>59154955
I have been enjoying it this way. I have never played competitive pokemon before, and I haven't got locked into anything terrible, so I'm happy with what I got. It's been fun to develop my team as I recruit more and learn.
I also have more tickets than I know what to do with. I have only done a handful of recruitments and I'm pretty happy with my team. Might start building a new one.
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>>59155108
Aren't you glad this faggot cat wasn't cut ;)
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>check Z-A pokedex by accident
>140 Atk 130 SpA
>is actually a 100 Atk 130 SpA special attacker in champions
Wow you need to be careful about this stuff
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>>59155090
I know that's what I'm saying. champions doesn't check for legality whatsoever. Which no one has pointed out yet.
This is a good change.
>>59155098
Exactly. They clearly made it so your Pokémon is fitted within the parameters of champions. They could have easily added some bullshit flag to have a mon that failed the check not be allowed into the app and push players towards relying on the VP system to get more mons.
The Pokémon company essentially has an open door policy for letting mons in.
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>>59155108
Just use Mirokaros
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>>59155099
Autism here: the requested dog was impossible. You could only have a furfrou with a cut at level 50 and below since that’s what go maxes out at and the ones from 3ds lost their cut in the transfer. The requests were for ones 91-100. People also would request regional variants that could go to BDSP, but since BDSP has no regionals, again it’s impossible.
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>>59155108
I didn't play an incin all day. But I swear there was a Charizard on every single team, even teams not running mega Charizard.
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>>59155108
join us
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>>59155119
It's one of the starters so that's not surprising at all
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>>59155108
>hey guys wouldn’t it be fun to have a limited roster so you don’t see the same thing you always do?
>lmao jk here’s Incineroar
I genuinely believe Japan should be carpet bombed
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>>59155108
>Incineroar’s counter was Urshifu
>instead of countering they just became best buds each other and Rillaboom
With Unseen Fist getting such a nerf, I wonder if Urshifu is gonna get any more nerfs.
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>>59155114
>champions doesn't check for legality whatsoever.
it does in weird ways, like apparently hisuian goodra in non-hisuian balls/non-PLA origin isn't allowed in, and that's ontop of HOME's legality checks you have to go through
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The GTS should be shutdown already. There's literally value in it. Just a bunch of shit post like pic related.
At least people asking for legendaries could be trifiled with.
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>>59155119
I have a Y Zard, but I like to save my Mega while they setup theirs and use their sun to use Solar Power and my weather saved if theirs runs out
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how come dire claw always lands
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>>59155113
Anon your yuge power….
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>>59155131
a cc. is what I meant to finish typing out.
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>>59155092
Unironically I want to replay PLA because I want a shiny sneasler
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>>59155113
Its 200 Attack you mook
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>>59155137
?
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>>59155117
Oh shit that's right. I think I was thinking of a GO variant with the Egyptian style or some shit.
Though now I just keep a couple dozen legendaries in home just for the retards who ask for them in exchange for basic yet high in demand Pokémon like that fuck ass green teacup.
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>haha mega Floette is stupid strong in champs
>me never having finished ZA though
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>>59155087
So that's how people were getting female Gallades.This game is a joke.
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Are pelipper fags using a -speed nature for terrain setting since they're counting on sash to let it trade anyways?
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>>59155129
I don't get what I'm looking at
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anyone got a good floette team?
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>>59155143
People like you, not really saying you do this though, are why I’m happy I decided to wait in line for my shiny Koraidon/Miraidon. I know it’s legit, I got the code myself and never had to deal with people handing out or trading “legit” ones on the gts or where ever. Surprised no ones been dq’d by that at a tournament since it’s happened with terapagos and zacian or zamazenta, I forget which
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>>59155127
Yea home's checks are strange. I think part of it stems from bank not being as robust with checks. So in home your illegal mon can make it in but you'll get this message if you attempt to trade them.
But they can still get into champions I believe. On top of that all of the pk.gg shinies I got from SV wonder trade work as well.
Its just funny that they're allowing level 1 stage 3 mons in without even a pop up notification. Surely some retard on X tried to get it to block a move to champions so they can bitch about how greedy the Pokémon company is.
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>>59155117
I miss the days of classic gts with people putting in their shinies, asking for impossible shit like level 1-10 legendaries. you could cheat those in no problem and swipe their precious shinies from them easy
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>>59155157
Just mouse + someone who can tailwind
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>>59155164
Same but I paid $30 for both on ebay
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>>59154847
GSC trainer theme for me. I don't get tired of it but I do wish they had put in as much music as possible, it feels much too barebones. Maybe they'll add more later?
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>>59155169
You can/could get those in Go, funnily enough. Bad example because you can get a level one refi in platinum, but here’s my level one go regi. Got a few other legendaries around level 10 lol
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>>59155129
>>59155156
In the global trade system you put up a Pokémon up for trade and you specify what you're wanting in return.
However you're able to ask for the exact mon you're putting up for trade. So it's essentially a fake offer for the Pokémon because why would someone looking for that mon have it to offer to you as a trade? It's extremely gay and retarded.
I'd rather deal with pic related because at least it's feasible to generate the requested mons.
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Who are the common fake out users so far? I want to add upper hand.
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>>59155167
>On top of that all of the pk.gg shinies I got from SV wonder trade work as well.
I mean they are technically legal/possible but honestly I wish they'd just do something about those, I fucking hate seeing those shitty nicknames online
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im starting to think competitive pokemon might be bad
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>>59155154
I think most of them go for a neutral or even plus speed so it can do threaten in Tailwind if your opponent tries to ignore it.
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>>59155189
Pokemon is bad.
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>>59155187
Incin and sneed (formerly rilla’s)
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>>59155187
>incin
>sneasler sometimes
That's basically it
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>>59155187
who gets upper hand in this?
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I forgot to fake out
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>>59155189
I just don't think we needed mega floette, incin and sneasler (forma de lanky retard) this early in the rotation. there's some clear power differences.
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>>59155129
He got a chinese Floette and would wish for a japanese Floette, nothing wrong here.
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>>59155188
But what about that one shiny Aipom whose nickname is a porn link?
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>>59155198
>>59155187
>>59155195
Raichu and Blastoise are more rare, but if you see Raichu its definitely got it
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I wish beedrill got upper hand...
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>>59155199
Samurott
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Do I really need fake out in my teams?
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>>59155072
>VGC
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Where the FUCK is my Scope Lens
Where the FUCK is my Scovillite
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>>59155187
I use Weavile because it outspeeds Sneedlers.
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>>59155199
Of the mons that don't suck, Raichu, Gallade, Conkeldurr, Talonflame, Kommo-o, Sneasler
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>>59155215
THEY'RE IN THE SHOP GOD DAMN ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND STOP SHOUTING
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>>59154817
human eyes can't see more than 30 fps. I'm convinced im being psyoped when people complain about fps
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>>59155187
incin and sneedler
I've not seen people in ladder willing to use the other options much
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>>59155164
>I decided to wait in line for my shiny Koraidon/Miraidon
I'm from the States. They let gamestop hand out the limited codes to fucking Pokémon tcg fags who camped outside the store for a tcg product that morning. I went to multiple gamestops all the codes were gone because there were a limited quantity given to gamestop by Nintendo or whatever. Other places had a code generated on a receipt with no limit on how many different codes could be generated.
We literally had printed fucking paper with a code on it. Only so many were made and that was that.
I genned those shiny variants because as a fan who tried to do things the right way. I got fuck all and wasted my time. The fact it wasn't a mystery gift, that way you know the only people who can get it are FANS WHO OWN THE GAME. also drive me to become this generation mad man.
Case in point, them locking 4 mega evolutions behind a 70 dollar game is absurd. Made some duplicates to try and help people get the requirements done
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>>59154706
there are some niche cases where you would want to delay your own mega evolution until a specific time, like tyranitar/abomasnow for weather wars or venusaur/victreebel to use chlorophyll sleep powder before their ability changes on teams without zard y (admittedly more of a hypothetical than anything at the moment)
could just be noobs forgetting to hit r
>>59154750
the implication is that it's why you can see how effective your moves are while you're picking them and why you can check battle info
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>>59155222
It's also fps on a turn-based game. Like what the fuck would you need that? It's not like you need to perform 0.5 seconds maneuver
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Man I was really considering getting the starter pack but locking shit behind ZA transfers is gay shit i don't want to support and if they're doing this now then theres going to be more later when wawawiwa releases
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>>59154724
I pulled this on someone today to shut down sun. without assault vest I love using mega ttar guilt-free.
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>>59155189
Its all sweaty tryhards. The showdown degenerates are flooding champions.
The best thing the VGC team can try is have fundamental changes to systems like weather or outright remove/limit some of the bullshit the sweats abuse.
Or say fuck em and make more shit random so people like pic related can finally take the stick out their ass.
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>>59155073
that was a display error
apparently it didn't functionally restore hp and was fixed during maintenance earlier
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>>59155073
Haze restores lowered stats
HP is a stat
hope this clears things up
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>>59155235
For me it was just annoying to get used to after playing SV, ZA and Pokopia at 60
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I never played Doubles before, what's a good team comp.
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>>59155087
>it essentially makes a copy of your Pokémon and makes them legitimate for use in champions.
this makes them being illegal completely irrelevant btw
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>>59155267
Just b urself :)
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>>59155151
no one got female gallades, the one being passed around as a meme was from one of the tutorials
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>>59155222
Not even that. Smash Bros is locked to 60 FPS but I use a 180hz monitor to see between frames. You can perceive a frame faster this way
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I miss wide guard
It’s there, but like not really…
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>>59155268
That's my point retard. The Pokémon company famously known for shooting people caught with genned mons within 50 miles of any official vgc event.
Literally doesn't stop genned mons from joining champions. In fact they give your Mon a green card so they're not illegal and allow them to be added.
People aren't bringing that up which is strange. You'd never think they'd do something like that. It's awesome they are but strange no one is talking about it
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Holy fucking shit I hate mega dragonite so much.
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>>59155245
no matter what they remove, the sweats will always find something to abuse
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What battle music is your favorite so far? For me, it's Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald.
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as someone who never played showdown, I will say its amazing how fast you can go through team ideas here. The VP economy feels generous for f2p as well.
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I really like the static jpeg also known as the title screen
Very nice
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Communicating...
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>>59154750
it's the lore reason for why you see "super effective" when you look at your moves
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>>59155284
>The Pokémon company famously known for shooting people caught with genned mons within 50 miles of any official vgc event.
this almost never happens
the closest thing that ever comes of that is that dataminer guy on twitter pointing out errors made in the genning process, which (to my knowledge) has never resulted in any disqualifications or shootings
>Literally doesn't stop genned mons from joining champions.
a genned pokemon wouldn't even be allowed into home unless it was consistent with a pokemon that could be caught in the wild, so of course genned pokemon are allowed
>People aren't bringing that up which is strange.
what is there to bring up
the only way a genned pokemon can get in is by being functionally identical to a non-genned pokemon, at which point only retards like verlis care about it being genned
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>>59155293
XY for me, though I wish they will import some tracks from Poma
https://youtu.be/HSltQv-HLhE
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>>59155303
The fact VP cannot be purchased and there's no shop section selling 13000 VP for $50 bucks or anything. Clearly shows this was made as a place for VGC battles to happen in an environment the vgc team actually has say over first and foremost. And a mobile app second.
The battle data shit is amazing as well. It's like they don't want you to make mistakes training your Pokémon and waste VP, along with the 7 day trial of Pokémon from the ranch so you can try them out.
The only thing they have is that season pass and membership. You can be completely free 2 play and still rank up and Build a team.
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>>59155303
>The VP economy feels generous for f2p as well.
So long as you don't care about cosmetics. You can build multiple teams for the cost of a single outfit.
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Mega Clefable is so funny they have him swinging by a stage wire
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>miss
>miss
>paralyzed
>miss
>crit
This is reminding me why I stopped playing showdown
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>>59155316
>this almost never happens
NTA but it happened with Pokemon World 2023
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>>59155316
>has never resulted in any disqualifications or shootings
My apologies my ESL friend. I'm an American so we use figure of speech.
People can bring up the fact that the Pokémon company is allowing clearly impossible mons (level 1 stage 3) access to champions. The western Pokémon community finds every reason to bitch and moan but actual good changes they don't fucking bother talking about.
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>sends out his shiny alpha garchomp against my regular recruited one
>one shot it
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>>59155324
Pokemon has always been a gambling game, but I can't blame you.
>land 10% freeze chance on blizzard out of snow
>they insta thaw and slam me anyways because champions just has a 25% chance of thawing and apparently that can happen mid fucking turn
>proceed to land a scald burn on that fuckass sneasler which would have won the game if I hadn't 2 turns later

it is what it is
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>>59155327
you'll notice i said almost never and not just never
>>59155329
>People can bring up the fact that the Pokémon company is allowing clearly impossible mons (level 1 stage 3) access to champions.
those have been possible through go for the better part of a decade
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>>59155129
>>59155186
I hate to use this fucking App. Why does everyone want a Floette for a Floette? Is this a language thing? I just traded a couple of my genned mons for presumably legit shiny ZA mons.
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>>59155336
>they insta thaw and slam me anyways because champions just has a 25% chance of thawing and apparently that can happen mid fucking turn
You could always thaw mid-turn, but it used to be 20%
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>>59155068
Clef was never going to be good in doubles. It's whole stat spread only really works in singles where it can pick and choose the mon it faces down
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>>59155321
My only issue so far is the ZA exclusive bullshit, floett should be recruitable and floetts and the kalos starter mega stones should be purchasable
I also worry about box space in the future, how generous are they going to be with giving more space without paying for the membership
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>>59155347
It's not good in singles either.
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The trainer's tits are a good size
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>>59155354
It is in BSS, not 6v6
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>>59155346
fair enough, it was more about sequential lower % chances all happening in a row deciding how matches play out, and that isn't even a particularly egregious example of that kind of rng just deciding fuck you.
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>>59155354
It's going to end up being fine. Not the best mega but it can't be understated that Magic Bounce is one of the best abilities ever and will let Clef get up to some bullshit if you want it to
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>>59155357
I'd like them bigger, but at least they're actually there
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>>59155293
I play on mute and blast dark ambient music while playing
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What's the difference in meta between 3v3 and 6v6?
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do i actually need to pay vp to change a single move if i already restatted that same mon?
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>>59155141
This is not how it works, niggerfaggot.
Huge Power doubles up final, calculated ATK. It doubles up base stat, IVs and EVs.
It's way fucking above just having base 200 ATK.
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>>59155372
Yes. You'll always need VP or a training ticket whenever you make any change.
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>>59155370
the capabilities of the pokemon are basically the same, but prediction during team selection for 3v3 is extremely important
if you want to scare people, consider running a hisuian zoroark
having 3 immunities means it can blank a lot of shit, which is especially helpful when it pretends to be something else that isn't blanked by any of that shit
even if you don't actually bring it to any battles you can spook people into bringing a counter for it that doesn't do anything against whatever you're actually bringinng with you
>>59155372
yes? why would you not have to spend vp on something that costs vp
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>bring mgolurk
>nobody protects anyway
Time to shelve this until I hit higher ranks I guess
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>>59155313
same as other games, rotom hacking for you
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>>59155357
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>>59155222
that is BS and you know it, i can’t atleast see 144 fps
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Are there bots across all ranks?
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>>59155367
Thankfully fanart can enhance anything we desire
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>>59155222
you have some audacity to lie so boldly
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What moveset and nature do I give to rotom-w
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>>59155400
>budding breasts
delicious
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>>59155419
I wouldn't be surprised.
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>>59155382
sucks
>>59155387
because i edited moves once its dumb needing to change a move depending on ladder encounters and pay each time
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>>59155226
>>59155099
>>59155143
not to be a mega autistino fag but if I'm reading this right you got a bunch of genned pokemon to spare and I would like to ask if you have any raging bolt, gouging fire and shiny koraidon and moriadon to spare, I got fucked over pretty bad trying to get a code and kind of want to get the dex of the blue berry academy if it's not too much of a bother

>>59155144
same here
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Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kJ9wp-mog8
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>face trainer using seemingly random pokemon
>thought it was a bot at first but all the pokemon are nicknamed and there's time between moves
>using only attacking moves and never switching
>realized I just shitstomped an actual child using his favorites
That didn't feel good..
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>>59155464
Children should not be playing adult games you did good
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>>59155464
sounds like a great feeling to me
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aaaaa my pokemon HOME is StUCK...
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>>59155476
For how long? I had it churning for multiple minutes the other day and it eventually moved along.
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>Opponent uses memento against my Milotic
>Charizard-Y heat waves
>H-Typhlosian and Charizard-Y against my super boosted Milotic and Whimsicott
>Mfw I can encore the Charizard
This shit is gold
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>>59155464
Little kids about to learn real fast why Incineroar got that spot in Smash.
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>>59155483
gotten error 2-ALZTA-0006 multiple times now after waiting a while
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Do I dare torture myself playing 15 fucking royales in ZA for Eternal Floette?
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>>59155509
Only if you want the best Mega in the game.
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>make a rain team with mega aggron, milotic, thunder rotom-W
>alright now to give whimsicott rain dance
>mfw he doesn't learn it
I don't want to use pelipper man
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>>59155509
Just use a twitch tradebot to get it. The OT is always AZ so it doesn't matter.
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>locked to only 3 teams
Please tell me the number of teams you can make increases as you rank up or something.
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Is bright powder fucked right now? Just missed three shots on a ninetails without snow up
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>>59155512
Aggron learns rain dance :)
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>>59155387
If you really want to spook people bring gothithele, people are terrified of it in team preview.
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>>59155017
That’s a very complicated question that requires super autism to answer.
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Fuck it, I'm tired of this. If you can't beat em, join em. Give me the loadout for the most cancerous Archaludon team ever. I know it starts with Pelipepper with Tailwind and Focus Sash, and Archaludon, what are the other parts.
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>>59155536
Yeah I'm sure the zard Y will let me do it :)
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>>59155539
Gothitelle isn't in Champions yet.
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>>59155547
I mainly play mega Aggron but I also have a mega Ttar mode to shut down zard y teams. It's not as easy as hitting tailwind, iron defense, and body press to win but it gets the job done.
Keep in mind I am a noob though.
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>>59155512
klefki gets prankster rain dance if you're really dead set on not using a switch-in setter.
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>>59155550
Really? Could have sworn I transfered mine yesterday.
I always find it funny how many bad decisions a single goth causes by just standing there menacingly.
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>>59155017
>>59155540

Rule of thumb is, if your Pokémon already has a large HP pool, invest in defenses. If not HP is superior.

Mathematically speaking, think of each as a multipliers. If the pokemon has 100 healt but 10 defense and you can give it 10 extra points, those 10 points would give it a 10% more bulk in HP, but a 20% more (physical) bulk in defense.
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FUARK
I'm hard stuck in U2 right now. Hopefully this big overhaul to my team works out.
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>>59155541
You can check Archaludon's usage in the battle menus to see its spreads, moves, items and usual teammates.
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>only 3 or so of my rank masters can get in and all of them have titles I like more
:( now timmy will never know I don’t want to be slumming it, I’m just on my way up. Sorry bud
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>>59155574
It's definitely interesting how they have their own usage data in-game
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>>59155419
Yes but once you get to higher ranks you only see pity bots after a lose streak
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>rock slide misses both targets
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lmao I love this shit. Is there a better way to support my Anger Point Tauros? I have no backup plan. I have Meowiainttypingherwholename with Flower Trick to proc my Anger Point and I just want to Earthquake and Rock Slide everything. I don't care about winning or losing I just wanna use my favorite pokemon
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>>59155553
Not a bad idea, thanks, probably gonna go with this despite earthquake also being everywhere
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>>59155574
>>59155578
Wait, where do you access that info? Can you find it out of battle too?
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>>59155587
magnet rise :^)
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so whats the charizard counter? i was thinking chucking a choice scarf h-arcanine into the lineup or a lycanroc with accelerock maybe incase of tailwind. Or is there some other counter thats better since he just switches to a rock resist or something.
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>>59155601
I like how Basculegion just kills things when you give it a scarf
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>>59155601
I picked up both Scarf Garchomp and Mega Glimmora to deal with Zard and it's been going great. ScarfChomp outspeeds a ton of useful stuff and M-Glimmora is exactly 1 point speed higher than both M-Zard and M-Dragonite. Considering Mega Aerodactyl as well.
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As a total noob really wanted to avoid using tailwind/trickroom but its inevitable... so I am settling for trick room because fat pokemons are funny.

What mega would you guys recommend? Haven't bought the first one and haven't use a mega pokemon since X/Y
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I beat my first real person in the event that’s going on. I feel like putting together a trick room/sun team before entering into match making feels a little unfair. Torkoal can really brute force match ups if they can’t take it down quick.
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>>59155321
Well all things considered, there's no reason for them to go all in on monetization when I'm sure they know that they're gonna make more money on Home subscriptions and Pokemon game sales.
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Here's my question, what do you do about Tailwind? I can deal with Pelipper but prankster Whimsicott is giving me hell, is there any viable taunt user?
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>>59155585
An alternative is mega froslass with Frostbreath, Aurora veil, Blizzard and Destiny bond.

It's immune to fake out, can use aurora veil if you mega evolve it and can increase its bulk and speed tier if it does but it also hurts tauros too much with frost breath to a point you may consider water or fire tauros just because they resist the hit better.
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>>59155608
Mega Golurk seems like a pretty decent mon for trick room, even with the Unseen Fist nerf the fact you can hit through protect can help avoid dud turns.
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>>59155613
They removed snatch, but the whole deal about it was stealing your opponent tailwind, screens or substitutes.
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>>59155613
Also Whimsicott lmao. Due to Prankster and a naturally decent speed stat, most people don’t pump points in speed so the anti Whimsicott Whimsicott play would be to put some investment in speed to out-speed the other Whimsicott.
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>>59155616
Nice. I do have him, was thinking Crabominable but the typing looks really bad.

Will give it a shot. Thanks
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I'm sick of fake out shuffling
someone talk me out of using my shiny love ball Tsareena, i'll give her a white herb or something just to remove that fucking cat
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>>59155614
Ah that's a good idea with Aurora Veil. I chose Meowscarada because I thought I'd be able to Skill Swap Protean for STAB Earthquake/Close Combat to break through walls but playing it safer with Aurora Veil might be a good idea too. Thank you
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>>59155633
You will use the cat and you will like it
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>>59155633
give her the fire berry, helping hand, and some other retarded support moves + trop kick to lower attack
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Is this game unplayable as f2p? I havent played a mainline since pokemon sun and moon. I tried and as soon as i won two games (i think they were bots) i went up against a fuck spamming tailwind with whimsicott and Incineroar, what the fuck am i supposed to do my pokemon are dogshit. I barely got any vp or tickets to roll for new stuff either. I dont even know how to get mega stones
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>>59155651
I also haven't played any mainline games since sun and moon. I've been enjoying f2p. What starter did you go with?
You can get mega stones in the shop. Make sure you do the tutorials, it gives you vp.
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>>59155651
>I barely got any vp or tickets to roll for new stuff either
You should get a good amount of tickets with just the typical early gacha hand-outs, after my first day of playing I had enough to do miore than 15 ranch refreshes, add to that the free Dragonite, the first tournament giving a Gardevoir just for participation and the starting team and you should have enough to quickly get a more than decent team, you'll be bottlenecked by knowledge more than money. It would help if you picked Pikachu for starter because the pokemon he comes with are great.
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>>59155658
Not sure what you mean by starter, is there more that i haven’t done?
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>>59155665
The first pokemon you picked in the ranch, the team the old man gives you to go with it depends on it.
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>>59155665
What pokemon did you pick when you got a free one at the start of the game?
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>>59155665
See here >>59154650
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>>59155669
>>59155670
Oh wow i guess i should have paid more attention. I picked the snorlax
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oh fucking fuck i bricked my game by picking snorlax, jesus christ
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>>59155676
Hawlucha, Hydreigon, and Kingambit are all good. You will have enough tickets to do more recruitments after you do all the tutorials too (you don't have to use VP). Should have enough to build a decent team.
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>bought Charcoal for Torkoal
>cam’t find it anywhere when I go to the held item menu
>get annoyed cause the VP is definitely gone
>there’s actually a menu cycle for items sorted by type/role that I somehow missed
I feel like a list of everything together should have been the default option lmao.
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>>59155651
You get VP from beating bots and losing. Eventually if you slam your head hard enough you can probably get enough for gacha rolls.
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>>59155688
This menu in particular is just very bad, there's no visual indication that you can go left or right.
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>>59155691
Can you theoretically quit on turn 1 to grab 100 each time?
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>>59155684
No you didn't, recruiting will get you plenty of good mons
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>>59155684
It's not the end of the world, but if you just got started and you want to make the most of the Home-less playstyle then you can consider starting over.
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>>59155694
I don't think quitting right away gets you anything
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>>59155698
Figures. Most PvP games actually punish you for early concedes
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Anyone else here playing singles instead of doubles?
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>>59155589
Battle>battle data, choose the format, switch to the pokémon tab, then look for the mon.
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>>59155707
I'm almost master ball in doubles then I'm gonna build a singles team.
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>>59155707
i do but i suck
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I got a mega stone for transferring my chestnaught from HOME does that apply to all megas in ZA or only the starters?
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>>59155717
The gen 6 starters.
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>>59155717
Only Gen 6 starters and Eternal Floette get free stones for transfering. The starters MUST originate from ZA to get the stones.
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does a fire type attacker get burned when attacking m-scovillain?
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Mega starmie is insane in 3v3 singles, this thing having flip turn is stupid as fuck,
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needs a single player mode badly
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>>59155707
I only play singles
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>>59155750
what for?
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>>59155129
They've had this issue since Gen 4 and refuse to do anything with it for some retarded reason, even worse with people putting up trades that shouldn't be possible without hacking like level 10 legendaries.
Either way, I put up a random trash Wooloo for an Eternal Floette and got one instantly, so I think there are people (bots, probably) trading genned mons for whatever.
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>>59155750
It's a game to play VGC, why does it need single player?
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bros... is cloud nine on altaria broken??? why dont the animations stop
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>>59155774
It doesn't get rid of weather. It just negates weather effects while it's out.
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What’s the warm up tournament thing? Just play 3 games?
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>>59155778
that is literally what it says, im very intelligent. thanks, anon
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>>59155774
cloud nine doesn't remove the weather, it just removes the effects. so if it dies the weather returns to what it would have been anyways. would be confusing for the weather to disappear then reappear for lil bro who just discovered this mad crazy tech and wants to run it
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>>59155707
Just hit masterball on a massive winstreak using a mega starmie + bellibolt + scarf ditto core, very fun, nobody respects the bolt, hes won every single 1v1 against garchomp where I soaked the switch in and the fast flip turn from starmie into slow volt switch from belli is so good. Mega zard Y lead has been very common for me so far and people do not respect starmie at all yet, adamant liquidation is guaranteed ohko on zard Y even in the sun
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>>59155694
theoretically. once someone starts afk vp loss farming, this will change. trust
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>>59154837
He’s correct and I agree 100%
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>>59155785
>bellibolt
What the hell set do you run on that thing? I have never once seen it used.
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>>59154837
floette isnt that good. primarina bodies that freak. and i rate starmie high a or s. yall sleeping on starmie
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>>59154837
>Hawlucha

You guys said he was shit
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>>59155807
hes bugged rn
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>>59155804
Prim set?
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>>59155785
post builds bro
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>>59155827
Whats the bug?
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>>59155843
Probably talking about no guard entrainment into horn drill fissure memes
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>>59155850
They gave it entrainment + no guard on purpose
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Any point to grinding the warm-up tournament after 3 games?
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>>59155856
Showing that you are the very best.
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>>59155856
Don't think so. Seems to be a test run for their online tournament thing.
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I've never understood pokemon pvp. It's nothing but who can just one-shot first. What's the point of all these debuffs/buffs when the match is over in a few moves and you never get any chance to see the benefit of them? Why increase my attack slightly when I can just attack twice?
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>>59155613
talonflame, flying moves get priority and dual wingbeat one shots it through focus sash no?
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>>59155885
what if my move that does 85% of your HP will now do 100%+ after my boost, and I am a very fast Pokemon, and the rest of your team will also fall victim to my hard hitting STAB coverage? Think, anon!
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>>59155885
>Why increase my attack slightly when I can just attack twice?
Because for exemple if the opponent protects or switch to something that resists your move you'd have been better off increasing your attack, also the set up moves that make it in competitive raise your stat by two stages or raise multiple stats, there's nothing slight about them.
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>>59155885
sorry you need to be at least 160cm tall or at least 80iq to post in this thread
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>>59155651
>I barely got any vp or tickets to roll for new stuff either
you get it pretty fast through the missions
>I dont even know how to get mega stones
frontier store, or whatever the VP store's called
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>>59155707
yes, singles is a lot simpler than doubles, doubles was stressing me out
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>play against a fucking Korean
>they leave it to the very last second every single time before moving

Really epic strategy, Kim Gook Dogsoup, you fucking RAT
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I am a femlala who is unstoppable in doubles
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I like doubles because I feel like I have a little more agency in what's going on. I was either turbo sweeping or feeding in singles.
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What's some pokemon to keep an eye out for on the Snorlax team? I burnt through all my tickets and the best I got was Starmie and Blastoise, and the Machamp from the code.
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>>59155945
Are you doing doubles or singles?
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when mobile, also is it F2P friendly? I see lot of people complaining but I think that if you know what you are doing you should not have any problem right?
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>>59155955
extremely f2p friendly
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>>59155945
The Snorlax starter team is probably one of the worst ones. If you got Starmie and Blastoise you have some good megas for singles at least.
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>>59155955
That's pretty much it yes, if you have experience you can easily do well in F2P and even Home-less, but for newbies I'd say the absence of rental makes it harder and there's really no buying their way out of that.
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>>59155955
Yes if you go into it with prior knowledge of competitive pokemon then you should be good. It's the retards picking every kanto mon they see and not using their vp wisely that are struggling.

If you do want to spend a bit of money the starter pack and battle pass are really cheap and get you a ton of stuff to start out with. The 50$ subscription thing is a total scam.
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>>59155955
It’s weird. Gacha is the main way of fleecing people but you can’t pay for it but there’s also mons you can only get if you have Z-A so it feels more like it’s pushing you to buy the main games instead of spending it here
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>>59155971
>Gacha is the main way of fleecing people but you can’t pay for it
100% they will have way more shit to purchase in the store by the time we get mobile release, likely ways to buy gacha tickets too. This game completely hinges on milking retarded mobile normies to make money.
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My Pikachu with Light Ball owns...
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>>59155970
the battle pass really isn't worth it either, the starter pack is good though
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For the retarded meme tournament it counts if I just scoop three times, right?
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>>59155992
What tournament?
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>>59155995
There's a "warm up tournament" that started today.
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What stops me from sweeping with 3 garchomps...
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>>59156012
You can't have three garchomps, or two garchomps.
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>>59156014
...
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>heat wave missed 3 times in a row
I can never get married now......
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so what am spose to do here just grind to masterball?
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>>59156024
If you don't enjoy stomping or being stomped then there's no point in playing this game. Ranked is a meme.
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What do you think of replacing whimsicott as tailwind setter with regular aerodactyl to check sun teams?
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Is Farigaraf not really as valuable since there’s no E speed Dragonite to worry about? Not sure who the best TR setter is atm
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>>59156065
The giraffe is good because it can't be hit with fakeout and its tanky. If it isn't knocked out or slept (all the sleep mons are fucking slow or only have hypnosis) on turn 1 you are getting trick room off with it. Who cares about extreme speed?
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>>59156070
>(all the sleep mons are fucking slow or only have hypnosis)
Venu?
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>>59156072
You can still just give the giraffe a berry to cover that and its not 100% accurate too
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>>59156065
Fake Out is the main thing you want to block with priority negators like Farigaraf.
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>>59155850
That's not a bug.
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>>59156070
>>59156078
I suppose but Oranguru, Spiritomb, poltcheageist, and Mimikyu are also fake out immune
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>>59156101
They don't also protect your partner from fakeout at the same time
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Wife
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>>59156101
Yes which is why ghost types or mons with flinch/priority immune abilities are typically the best trick roomers. Unfortunately we don't have Covert Cloak yet.
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Would they buff some underdogs or Watchog is doomed to be jank that dillutes your daily recruit?
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Why is Klefki so hot...
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>>59156108
needs more porn
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>>59156110
*flings greninjaorb*
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>people are using Claude to develop optimal teams already
I hate this era...
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>>59156110
You'll never even see him in your daily recruit, I can hardly understand the purpose of the shitmons except to be rare. The only "bad" pokemon I've seen in the gacha are Arbok, Ariados, the less good Tauros forms and Furfrou, and all of those have potential in one way or another.
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>there's a tier above master ball
Sounds like giga cancer
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>>59156108
bro just shave it off
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>>59156114
>Claude
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>>59156117
I hope it's Love Ball...
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>>59156120
It's champion rank
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FEMALE GALLADE REAL
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>>59156144
A true trans icon...
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>>59155919
Sis...? Wrong general...
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Compound Eyes or Friend Guard Vivillon? Scarf Powder for Compound Eyes?
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i cant believe i spent 7.20 on this shit game
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>nobody plays singles
;_;
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>been out of competetive for a while
>re-learning everything is a lot harder than i remember find it before
aaaa how do i git gud again anons
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>>59156227
Play Mega Heracross in Singles :^)
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>>59154724
I keep doing this to people. I love Tyranitar and hate weather teams, so getting the double reset is just splendid.
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>>59156227
At least it's a pretty simple meta to grasp, not a bad place to get back on track.
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>>59156231
singles is easy shit i've not lost my jam there
it's doubles that's fucking my brain
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>>59156240
The fastest way to learn is just look at what kills you and do it back until it loses.
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Sweet Scent Tsareena to guarantee hits...
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>Mega Abomasnow sets snow
>4x weak to fire
>Mega Charizard sets sun
>4x weak to rock
>Mega Tyranitar sets sand
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>can't be 4x weak to water
>being part fighting means it's only 2x weak to grass
>water resists ice anyways
Ruined by Gamefreak's water favoritism
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Man, my specific brand of poke-autism is finally paying off. I mean, am I meta whoring by using Whimsicott? Yes.
Does it feel different to me that its Fluffee? Hell yes! Same with Gaspar the Gengar.
You get bonus points if you know what I am specifically talking about



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