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Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch with a mobile release later. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.

SWITCH 2 UPDATE: Launch the game in handheld mode to get the performance boost (can still play docked after). Still 30FPS, however.

>News
Small bug fix patch: https://news.pokemon-home.com/ja/page/758.html
Warm Up Challenge online competition live, runs through the weekend and gives free Gardevoir
Free Machamp mystery gift code: CHAMP10N
Season 1 runs until May 13
Mobile release possibly leaked for June

>Links
https://champions.pokemon.com/en-us/
https://x.com/Pokemon_Champs (EN) https://x.com/Poke_Champ_jp (JP)
Pokémon data: https://serebii.net/pokedex-champions/
Available mons: https://www.serebii.net/pokemonchampions/pokemon.shtml
Mega abilities: https://serebii.net/pokemonchampions/megaabilities.shtml

Quick FAQ
>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?
No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.
>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?
All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.
>Is there single player content?
No.
>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?
No.
>What's the starter pack?
US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 quick coupons, 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music.
>Is anything locked behind a paywall?
So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Mega Kalos starters and E-Floette require ZA transfer.

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Wife
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lol why are moves getting nerfed? its pokemon stats what should be nerfed
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>>59156944
She will have my babies
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>>59156944
she has a penis
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>>59156953
And?
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>>59156952
then im completely fine with it. i really appreciate it man. how do we trade though? this is my first time using pokemon HOME
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>>59156959
Just making sure you are aware
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>>59156960
You need the mobile version to trade (for some reason).
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>>59156944
But that's my wife?
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>>59156966
yeah i've got it downloaded on my phone, do i just send you my friend code?
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>>59156953
yea, mine
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>>59156953
a very feminine penis
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>>59156945
I knew stat changes were wishful thinking, they're too autistic about keeping parity with the main games. Megas really should have had some bigger changes though.
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lol salt cure is now useless
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Anybody notice Gliscor lost access to both Taunt and Defog??
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>>59156982
Garganacl must have had a crazy high winrate on BSS or something for them to do him dirty like that.
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masterbros please share your teams, i'm tired of losing....
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Testing out mega chimecho. I used to have mega meganium in scovillain's place but scovillain is so much fun with sub/protect. Then pop the mega to get a burn and get better stats
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>>59156971
Yeah.
SEVCRWSLGMGK
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where the fuck is metagross
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>>59156993
thanks man, i just sent a friend request. my ign is Major
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>>59156994
Steven has it
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Where's the bots... please send me bots to fight against not these Japanese sweatlords...
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>>59156994
In the "don't rape the meta yet" containment zone with Salamence and Mawile
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>>59157003
anon... the japanese names are the bots...
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Does anyone know the Corviknight EV spread used for VGC? I can't find anything on it.
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>>59157007
No...
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>>59156994
No mega Metagross or Mawile or they couldn't shill their shiny new Floette.
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I want to build a snow team, what should I be looking for? Just got M-Froslass and A-Ninetales right now. My initial thought is that obviously I need some way to deal with the cat
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>>59156928
disgusting that people are defending this piece of shit
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>>59157011
Use Protean Greninja with Blizzard.
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>>59156982
wrong as usual
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>>59157015
still not playing show down
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>>59156953
She really is perfect, huh?
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>>59157011
I use a Milotic with blizzard.
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>can't change skin tone
>can't get tanned for /pcg/ rooms
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>>59156928
>People bought this shovelware and have to pay a yearly fee to even play it
lol
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>>59157035
>retard makes post about thing he knows nothing about
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>>59157041
>retard coping about how the game's launch was a total disaster and will never recover
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>>59157042
>will never recover
2 more weeks
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How strict is the HOME legality checker? I haven't bothered to get HOME yet, but my Ultra Sun file is full of mons both legit and not.
Like, none of the genned mons have bizarre moves or natures or anything, they're just those obvious hacked shinies from Auslove from back in the day and such. Its not that i particularly care about these mons, I am just too lazy to sort them out and don't want like, a giant ban on my account/switch or something.

Does it just check for illegal move/ability combos, or does it go further?
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How many of you realize they’re drip feeding content? They’ve already got the rest of the game done; they’re just withholding it from you.
My source is the Tauros with a clear amulet in the example images for teams, and the multiple Pokemon not in the current season that appear in the trailers.
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>>59157046
>2 more weeks
and the game will still be a failure
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>>59157050
You cracked the code, you must be a once a century genius.
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>>59157011
If only there were a strong special attacking water/fairy type that can resist both his STAB
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>>59157052
2 more weeks bro
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>>59155833
>>59155799
Mega Starmie adamant max attack max speed
-Liquidation, flip turn, zen headbutt, ice spinner
Bellibolt is careful with max special bulk + sitrus, should probably be physical bulk to be honest
-Thunderbolt, slack off, soak, volt switch
Ditto is ditto

If you haven’t given bellibolt a try you absolutely should I think you’ll be really pleasantly surprised I swear hes been 1v1ing the entire format, if they start setting up on you to play around his electromorphosis then you just swap into ditto when they ohko him, very cheesy very fun. My belli set doesn’t feel optimal at all for the format and hes still such an MVP
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>>59157050
obviously
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>>59157050
It's not drip feeding, it's just how regulations work. Competitive card games like MtG does something similar.
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>>59157049
It sucks ass. Generally if it's possible to actually get the mon even if it requires autistic dedication then it's fine. It does do move/ability checks as far as I'm aware.
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>tagline in the trailers is battle freely, your way
>you can’t
>pokemon and items in the trailers aren’t in the game
Did they put a disclaimer up?
You could get some easy money off that if you took it to a court
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>>59157050
Honestly the drip feed doesn’t concern me as much as the prospect of mons being subtracted about as often as they’re added. It’s one thing to slowly build to a massive roster (even though it still sucks) but it’s another thing entirely to just cycle through 200-ish mon rosters in a fucked up leave-a-penny-take-a-penny cycle of constantly hunting for new checks on the lucky handful that are never removed from rotation.

I see a nightmarish future where every 3 months we all have to scramble to acquire the only two mons capable of handling Incineroar that are currently in the game.
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>>59157082
do it so I can laugh when your case gets thrown out
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Mega Dragonite is on my GOAT list.
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>items are assigned to team slots instead of to pokemon
This bothers me a lot
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>>59157087
how do you set him up
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>>59157083
oh no the regulation changes and you have to adapt to a new meta, this has never happened before
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>>59157091
rain
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Incineroar theme
https://youtu.be/JHnhd_0GiQg
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>>59157090
I feel like its a subtle push make people spend their team slots rather than cycle things around one team.
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>>59157092
With the exception of moving in and out of restricted formats in SV (and even then moving out of a restricted format was only ever done in SV) generations progress from regional dex to national dex and then to national dex restricted. Regulation changes basically never remove pokemon, except when a new generation starts. Removing pokemon that were previously usable just as a “fuck it why not” would indeed be completely unprecedented.

Anyway the issue isn’t updating to the new meta. The issue is, the current meta is just too small, and “they’ll add more” doesn’t fix that issue if they subtract 10 everytime they add 10, it remains a small meta.
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Are there any good clothes on the premium pass other than the ZA ones? I'm considering buying it just to dress up Becca.
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>>59157111
No, 10 bucks for one outfit.
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i miss Weezing
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>>59157091
Rain. Partnered with Sinistcha for heals and attack redirects. Extremespeed to deal with priority. She's just a workhorse.
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>>59157111
No, those are the only real money-only clothes
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>>59156996
Sent you a trade request now. I thought I had a spare Pelipper so I just caught some random one, hope that's fine.
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>>59157081
Hm, i guess i should be good then
I mean, even a down syndrome guy would take one look and see that they are genned lol, but in terms of moves/abilities etc everything is just normal.
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>>59157127
that's completely fine man, thanks a lot. also, do you happen to have a charizard too? lol
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>>59157133
I don't
But I was thinking of making one so if you're still in the thread later I can shout out when I'm doing it
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I've seen a lot of bitching about this, but help me understand: What is the issue with Champions NOT having every 'mon available at the start? Is it just that people want to play with X/Y pokemon, and they're throwing tantrums that they aren't in? Or did they promise Champions would have a certain amount available at the start, and they didn't deliver?
Personally I think the idea of a seasonal rotation that shuffles the available pokemon every few months is super cool, but I primarily do a lot of TCG so having a rotation is nothing new to me.
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>>59157138
that'd be great, thanks again man
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I feel like I shouldn't have won the match where the only thing I achieved t1 was tailwind while my Whimsicott and Meganium both dropped to red and the latter also froze against Froslass. But I did.
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>>59156928
I love that it tells you if the enemy is on a win streak. Pretty satisfying to end some dude's six win streak.
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>>59157082
yeah all those lawsuits about “gotta catch em all” being a lie after dexit really went somewhere
you got this bud
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>>59157143
Did you get the Incineroar? Said there was a communication error on my side but he disappeared.
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Mega Aggron is clutching so many games for me.
He walls physical mons so good and doesnt give a shit about intimidate if you do a body press iron def set.
People forfeit right as the turn ends and they only did 10% of his hp with a stab earthquake
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>>59157151
yeah i got him, thanks
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>>59157144
>not setting up sun vs froslass
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>>59157156
Nice, enjoy.
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>>59157152
Its crazy how no one runs special attackers. Ever.
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>>59157050
We got Looker over here.
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>>59157141
Regulations already shuffled what Pokemon can compete, this game just did a more dramatic version of that by including items too (remains to be seen if items will get shuffled around with new regulations when more are added though) I think a lot of people coming to this game expected something completely different, and not just a VGC engine that lets the mainline team hopefully make more interesting Pokemon games.
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>>59157152
Yeah, I was disappointed when ZA didn't give him Body Press. Finally all the pieces have aligned.
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I hope they add Z-moves soonish. I miss Alola.
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>>59157141
There's only one way to play. I want to bring my nfe Pokemon for fun and I can't do that.
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Bright powder sand veil.
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feel like I’m gimmicking people out with Mega Victreebel but it’s really working for me
nobody seems to know what to do against it and it hits surprisingly hard
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>>59157169
It would be nice if 6v6 was an option in casual or private battles but it not being there for ranked is expected. No one's going to sit through that except the most hard-core pokemon battlers.
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>>59157176
They are coded in, somewhat
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>>59157169
>I think a lot of people coming to this game expected something completely different, and not just a VGC engine that lets the mainline team hopefully make more interesting Pokemon games.
Yeah seems like people just expected this to be official Showdown, which if that's what you want you'd be rightly annoyed that Champions satisfies none of that.
Personally the idea of having to makes new teams and getting a new meta every few months is pretty exciting. Give some other mons time to shine by rotating out VGC staples that everyone is tired of, like Incelroar/TTar/etc.
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>>59156928
>Growth is Grass now
This is how I learn that in the move's time as a normal type only five non-grass mons have gotten access to it and out of those five
>two get it through breeding
>three needed a gen 2 event
>Out of the aforementioned 3, only one normal type has gotten it
>And that one normal type is Eevee, who eventually got a grass evo anyways
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Is it strange that i get more satisfaction from using my Dragonite I got all the way back in HG/SS(the gift Dratini you can get) than using one from this game?
Same with using the Peliper i used on my first playtrough in Ruby as my rain setter.
It does not matter in the slightest stats wise, but its just that little bit extra special.
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>>59157157
I was running ttar in the back. I basically just pressed dragon dance and rock slide with it and garchomp later on. But my opponent didn't really have anything against that.
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>>59157185
Hopefully the funny poses are included.
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>>59157191
yeah its better. feels bad that i never transferred my mons past gen 5
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>>59157191
>using my Dragonite I got all the way back in HG/SS
Anon, they're lying to you, when you bring over a pokemon from this era it gets Prestiged on the way. You killed your Dragonite.
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>>59157191
That's called being sentimental anon and it's based. Still miss my guys from Gen 3 from a cartridge I lost.
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Outplayed
https://x.com/dynamotwentytwo/status/2042087804323213342
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>looks up destiny bond
naruhodo
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>>59157191
alot of my home mons from gen 6 still have the autistic nicknames I gave them. Its cool that the tyranitar or garchomp I made from that time is just as relevant
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>>59156944
One of the worst Pokegirls, literally Penny tier
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Good Mega Froslass doubles teams?
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I hope they add trainer class outfits, like Showdown. Maybe I can even show my support for Ghetsis-sama's great cause...
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>>59157015
Fucking bootlickers
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People think they want freedom with all the pokemon and then they get destroyed by monster teams, realize that's not fun at all even with your favorites and stop playing, never listen to the players.
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>>59157063
How many mons were available in the previous SV regulation
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>>59157191
>pre-Champions
>the Champion ribbons for each region always feel like a participation prize especially since a lot of them have been released mostly on the 3DS and Switch games
>now
>since there are only marks available for people that do not have HOME, all of the ribbons including these ones feel much more special to have equipped on just about anything
Yeah I vastly prefer using my own Pokemon now.
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>>59157223
Ok but they left Incineror in AGAIN
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>>59157230
apparently the switch client for Home doesn't show ribbons?
What the fuck, I didn't even know there was a mobile client
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>>59157223
I love dexit
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>>59157236
That is correct, it is actually a very glaring flaw with the Switch version. I thought that at some point they'd update it by now but NOPE.
Just as bad too is that it's not even anything you can sort on in the mobile app like you can the type of ball it was captured in or OT... it's honestly a real pain.
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>>59157223
I think having different “weight classes” like in boxing or mma for official play would be neat. Someone’s favorite would probably be so bad that there would be no format it’s good in, but there’s no helping that.
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I have Violet + DLC and legends Arceus, drop me a mon you want and I'll catch it for you. Will circle back when I'm off work to deliver
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>>59157245
The problem with that becomes the splitting of the playerbase.
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>>59157223
Yeah, that’s why these restrained metas are the be-
>Incineroar left in
nuke Japan
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>>59157257
how does this work? are the trades asynchronous, or do you both have to trade at the same time?
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I think Covert Cloak may be the most brutal item loss, but I can understand leaving that out at the beginning of the game due to it potentially confusing players when their effects don't work.
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>>59157274
I don't pay for Switch online anymore so I just trade the mons on Home's mobile GTS. When you share what you want, just put whatever on GTS and let me know what to look for
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Does anyone have suggestions for Mega Starmie partners in doubles? I know he’ll be a soldier in the weather wars, but I’m thinking beyond that.
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>Fake out doesn’t flinch
>opponent isn’t holding a covert cloak
>opponent uses haze
>goes from 63% to 1% after being hit to 92% once haze is used
>it actually affects gameplay
What would you do in this situation?
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>>59157280
oh cool, in that case can you catch me a charizard please? i just put up a lvl 5 pikachu on the GTS
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>>59157284
sableye
helping hand the huge power self-destruct
trust
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consistent usage/win rates like incineroars should promote him to a restricted regulation.
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>>59156928
>see florette stocks rising
>Check GTS
>see the bullshit offers for her
They're literally all Chinese players. Probably genned and posted a copy on there to flaunt. Gamefreak needs to separate that entire region
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>>59157160
Do you have some pkhex files for some good Pokemon for champions? Or where to find the data. I can gen them just don't know where to find good team data.
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Strong pokemon.
Weak pokemon.

If it's between the two, you should pick the strong pokemon. Go, Incinerorar.
-Karen, Pokemon GSC (1999)
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>>59157206
lmao
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>>59157318
What a lying bitch
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>>59157223
Ranked can be Regulation and exclude pokemon. Casual should have two queues, one for all Pokemon and one for Pokemon that aren't in regulation.
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>>59157301
just use a trade bot. all these floettes are genned anyway, no difference
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>>59157301
yea I wouldn't get to worked up over it. The console is hacked, there is lots of software to just do this. Wind/Waves will be the first time a pokemon game lands on secure hardware (for now)
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>>59157301
Just stick up any extra shinies you have and ask for Floettes, Bloodmoon Ursalunas and Sinistchas and then build up a little stock of them.
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>>59157293
Cool, will share in a little bit
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>>59157338
You're saying this as if shinies aren't completely worthless after SV/ZA.
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his throat is dry he needs his throat spray please give him his throat spray iruka :(
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Am I playing this game because it's good?
or just because it's pokemon?
or because we finally have an offfical battle sim?
I'm so blinded... everynyan hates this game, but I don't mind it. Sure the dark patterns are annoying, mobile slop, battle pass, premium tiers, dailies, VP and mons that are st8 up unobtainium for anons without every pokemon gayme.

I just want ranked, random battles. :/
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>>59157343
>value only in rarity
impossible....
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every battle is the same 4 pokes lmfao
people find this fun?
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>>59157353
yes and yugioh is the same 3 decks and fighting games are the same three characters
that's what happens when you leave the playground meta
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>>59157348
>Am I playing this game because it's good?
no
>or just because it's pokemon?
yes
>or because we finally have an offfical battle sim?
yes.
>>59157353
You can shake it up using your own Pokemon but yeah it's going to be liek that.
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>>59157257
im the same guy who asked for the charizard earlier. can i also get a venasaur and garchomp pls? it looks like i can only put up 1 GTS trade at a time so i will put a lvl 4 minccino for the garchomp, and a lvl 2 makuhita for the venasaur as soon as i can. really appreciate it
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>>59157213
Yeah the Peliper i mentioned is called Dominic.
I have no clue what 12 year old me was thinking when i named a Peliper fucking Dominic, but i think its kinda funny actually.
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>>59157312
Nah I just do it myself and get the natures/EVs/movesets into something that seems decent that will cost the least amount of VP in-game if I fuck something up.
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za's cutscenes are so fucking long, i just want floette
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>>59157353
Oh it's always the same 4 pokes should be easy to make a counter team and go 100-0 then huh
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>>59157348
The patterns aren't that dark, this is like the most forgiving "gacha" ever. It's only that class of game to be a free to play PVP hub for mainline, and having a gacha system makes the most sense in current year to monetize that.
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>>59157371
im saying its not fun
you're awfully defensive
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>>59157376
You didn't say you are not having fun doebeit you asked do people find this fun.
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>>59157376
>replies with a non argument
Just like an ass blasted person would. Bet you’re doing it for the epic lul amirite bruh
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>>59156945
solid blocks of sodium chloride typed this
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>>59157353
>new competitive game/format comes out
>best players hash out a meta based on experimentation and available data
>average players copy this to the best of their ability
>scrubs try to keep up and fall short
>go to forums and image boards to whine about "same 3 teams/moves/characters" and appear aloof
Many MANY such cases
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>>59157383
there is no argument
the game is not fun
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People are playing it, so it's fun.
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>>59157394
I'm playing it and I'm having fun.
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Do you get double rewards like storage upgrades if you climb ranks in singles and doubles?
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ngl this is the first time ive actually been able to use Ariados at all
by able to use it I mean just as long as I dont have to face a sun team
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>Complaints dying down
>It's the people posting game footage and talking about the game that's flooding my timeline
I guess it's hard to find pushback from Pokemon fans aside from the obligatory day 1 bitching. I guess this is the future now.
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>>59157408
until ww.
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>>59157408
>people play a good game
wwoww no way man
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>>59157408
Are you surprised?
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>>59157408
VGC is enough of a beast that this would carry no matter what. What other option is there?
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Is it especially poor form to have 3 megas on my team and pick 1 during team selection? Would cutting it down to 2 be better?
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>>59157338
Wish me luck anon
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>>59157408
Well did you expect them to stick around or something? If the complaints fall on completely deaf ears, they'll just move on and play better shit. Or maybe wait and see if ILCA attempts to improve on anything.
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>>59157353
Faggots really thought this Meta would be interesting with so many mons and items cut, but nope we still got the same mons guest starring mega Floette. Fuck Comp, Fuck Game Freak and Fuck ILCA
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>>59157422
Yeah double mega is a thing, but 3 is too much and kills team flexibility
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>>59157431
Mad reddit bitch.
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>>59157408
>>Complaints dying down
>if I keep going LALALA I can't hear the complaints anymore
that's you, that's what you sound like
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>>59157422
You using up a held item slot for nothing if you end up not mega evolving them. It's fine but that means the other 3 non megas are going to have to pick up the slack.
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>>59157422
I’ve seen triple mega teams, but I think two allows for mode usable flexibility.
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>>59157425
You really should ban chinese or other sus languages but you do you
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I don't plan to use my Floette because I'm not a metafag but I keep it on my team as a flex and to scare my opponents.
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>Wasted a bunch of vp because I didn't realize Home was free
I feel like I've been scammed in reverse.
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>>59157404
No but there are end of season rewards so if you want more vp you should do both anyway
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Champions developed by DeNA instead of ILCA
What changes?
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>>59157457
Minimal benefit to being retarded anon
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>>59157343
I'm saying this because I've been doing it myself and it's been working. They're never worthless if they're in a balltism ball, someone will want it.
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>>59157448
some comps I do see them bringing floette with another mega pokemon.
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>>59157293
Just sent!
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I havent been hit with a status move once since I started playing.
I thought I'd at least get will o wisped by now.
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Are people still autistic over the pokemon go tag? Might try and get some shit using my old go shinies
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>>59157432
Funnily enough double mega is a by product of the terrible item pool available.
This format should play like reg G "protect the king", but instead it's like a dual mode restricted format where you try to make 3-3 synergy work. Tough to team build for, so I'm running just a single mega.
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I can't believe this game made me reinstall GO for an easy cheap source of mon to import.
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>>59157505
Who’s wrong with GO mons? Honestly pretty useful for this game since IVs don’t matter and you can change natures.
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>>59157499
no clue if im doing it wrong but i still see my pikachu on the GTS
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>>59157508
Same, got all the pre SV shit i need. Best part is all the shit stat shiny mons can actually be used in champions
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>>59157191
I'm using a Gyarados from virtual console Blue and an Infernape that I've had since my first save file on Pearl. Wish I could move in my old Primeape from firered.
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>>59157515
I might have sent it to the wrong person lmao.
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>>59157524
lmao all good. should i take the pikachu down and put a more niche pokemon or something?
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>>59157408
>>Complaints dying down
Where?
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>>59157391
>posts his opinion as fact
>its not an argument
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>>59157476
It becomes even more bare bones (which is crazy with the current launch of Champions)
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>>59157513
Nothings wrong with them, I just remember at some point autistic collectors wanted GO mons because of the tag in home. Im just wondering if its still the case so I can get shit like eternal floette with my excess shinies
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Do we think we ever get a 60fps patch for switch 2 or are we stuck at 30fps for the next 8 years?
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>>59157528
It's up to you, I'm making another one right now
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>>59157537
We also get VP (paid) and VP (unpaid)
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Are there bots in the Online Competition? I've had a few questionable opponents giving free wins
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>>59157543
can we friend trade to make it simpler?
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>>59157353
Which means if you find a meta counter to them you get back to back easy wins.

>>59157141
People are annoyed an official play experience is a worse battle sim than Showdown or even just playing the online ranked battles for whatever gen's mainline game.
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>>59157513
GO is not a real Pokemon game for starters. Its mobileslop. Shinies and Pokemon from GO are not real shinies and worthless. I have more respect for genned shinies even.
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>use earth power on Kinggambjt
>-special defense +attack defiant
Fuck off man
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>>59157542
It's coming.
Maybe there's some technical fuckup that causes desyncs that they're trying to fix, but frankly I'd rather have the numerous bugs fixed.
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>>59157049
Run it through PKHex's legality checker first.
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>>59157049
Only problem I ever had was trade evos. I got lazy and just did trade evos between myself and the legality checker found out there wasn't a second unique ID in the OT and secondary trainer.
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>>59156985
And toxic orb.
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>>59157508
its making me finish ZA
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>Upper Hand enemy Incin Turn 1
>but it failed and Incin uses parting shot
>incin comes back out turns later
>opponent still goes for Fake Out after I had already shown I had Upper Hand
Funny game.
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>The opponent has been idle too long!
>The battle is over!
Wait, does the game actually detect if you go AFK, or did he just run out of Your Time?
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>>59157553
Sure, send me a request TVNUJKCTCSPT
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Incineroar is banned from my gym
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>>59157588
thanks, just sent. my ign is major. do you also happen to have a garchomp and venasaur too? or an excadrill and sinistcher?
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PSA Don't forget to redeem your free battle-ready Machamp sirs
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>>59157513
Well, you don't know what you're importing until it's in Home and you can't improve it in any of the ways that save on VP.

So it's just saving you the recruitment process.
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>>59157601
not gonna waste precious box space on this shitmon
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>>59157546
Yes, especially early, your first 3 opponents or so will always be bots, and then again if you lose too much against humans.
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>>59157599
I have the Garchomp and Venasaur but not the others. Will take a moment to catch
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>>59157601
nobody is impressed with your no-guard dynamic punches anymore machamp..
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>>59157601
Does this one come with the megastone? I'm not seeing it in the shop or as part of the achievements.
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>>59157602
Well, you can transer them to a mainline game and train them there. That's what I've been doing. I had a shiny Ralts in GO, sent it to Home then to SwSh for training then back to Home then to Champions. Kinda tedious but it does save on VP.
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>>59157607
ty man those two are more than enough for now, i g2g to sleep soon so you don't have to catch the excadrill or sinistcha
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What are those type affinity tickets you get from achievements?
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>>59157610
There is no such thing as Mega Machamp...

>>59157608
>>59157603
He comes in a fancy Cherish Ball though!
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>no unique icons for the different alcremie combos
fucking bullshit
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>>59157593
Don't worry, all your opponents will bring the fag cat anyways
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incredibly boring meta. what a flop.
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>pov: you use recruited 'mons
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>>59157614
Well I hope you get some use out of those!
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>>59157635
i will, i finally have a team i can play with now. you really saved my ass, thanks again
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>>59157619
The gift event mons would be cute if you could transfer them out of Champions, but they're trapped here. Pretty sad.
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>>59157621
the brokeboy award
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>>59157647
I would consider paypigging membership if it actually let you export recruited mons
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getting real fucking tired of triple axel not hitting even once
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>>59157408
I mean GF kind of did it to themselves and I don't think Champion is more than "just acceptable" and that's being really generous. But it is clear how many people jump on the hate bandwagon just to talk shit.
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Just throwing this out there but does anyone with a copy of SV need a Sneasler? I have a bunch of H-Sneasels bred. The GTS is useless and this mon is hard to get otherwise.
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>>59157657
Sorry, I've stolen your luck. All my Triple axels have hit all 3 hits every time so far
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Any suggestions for a pokemon to cover a sand teams water weakness?
I was using a sand veil bright powder heliolisk to get some surprise kills but he just doesn't have the stats to hang with the non shitmons unless he becomes rnjesus on the evasions.
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>>59157654
I hope they add that feature in later.
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>>59157680
Mega meganium
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>>59157141
Part of the issue is that Champions is still Gen IX (we don’t have a roster of new mons to play with) but we don’t get as much content as ordinary Gen IX battles in SV.

A lot of the charm of a new-gen format is experimenting with new mons; apart from a few megas we can’t do that, and the new megas are not only half-implemented but also limited to one per team. It’s hard not to just feel like “SV but shittier” rather than a new regional dex
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>>59157563
Aren't pokemon even harder to get in GO than in

You actually have to physically walk around for miles each day, spawns are basically random, the only way to level up or evolve is catch a bunch of duplicates, and even catching requires actually skill instead of just para + false swipe+ press y until it stays. You have to know when to feed berries to improve odds, do a spin throw, land inside the shrinking colored circle, and the succeed in the one or two chances before it runs away.
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I feel like eventually when they've done dripfeeding all the battle gimmicks one by one it's still going to be restricted to maximum 2 specific ones per season and we're not getting a Mega Z-Move Dynamax Tera all in one environment. Not that that kind of meta sounds fun but it'd be spectacle on the first week at least
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>>59156928
God damn they really need to patch in Annhilape or something. Incin is somehow even more of a menace even without knock and u-turn because we lost all the items designed to deal with it.
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>>59156928
are any of those buffed moves seeing any play rn?
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>>59157657
Stop using it on Sand Veil Garchomps in Sandstorm.

It's not smogon showdown rules, evasion strats are legal in VGC.
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>>59157703
Milotic
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Hey pokemon nerds and oldfags, how likely is it, that (ranked)random battles will be a thing soon?
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>>59157699
>Tera Flying Mega Rayquaza using Supersonic Skystrike
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Was holding my pokemon cartridges in my hand and accidentally tasted them
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>>59157725
lol
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im having a lot of fun using this fella
been doing a gay hybrid of evasion niggery and body press faggotry
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i keep getting palafins, better than shitecineroar i guess
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>25/30 spaces
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I lose 100% of the time Basculegion shows up. I have no clue how to beat swift swim last respects.
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>>59157513
>>59157505
The Go tag is just incredibly ugly and enlarged in Pokemon Home. It looks like something is wrong with the pokemon.
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>>59157745
You didn't rank up yet?
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>>59157707
... Wait, is VGC Anything Goes except for no duplicates?

Moodystall, Spore spam, Shadow Tag and Arena Trap, boost passing, OHKOs, all of it???
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>>59157617
They let ypu do the rental gacha with a focus on a particular type.
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>>59157749
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does showdown! have the champions reg yet?
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>>59157691
>Not as much content as ordinary S/V
>But it's also free and cuts out the chaff of the story to focus solely on comp battling

>No new mons to play around with except a handful of megas
>but by restricting the available pokemon it should in theory create its own meta and avoid becoming stale through rotation

As someone who hasn't played a mainline Pokemon game since fucking HG/SS, but who always loved comp battling, it seems like Champions fills the niche I've always found myself in.
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>>59157755
Yeah, a meme strat is Entrainment Hawlucha giving No Guard to a mon with a OHKO move.
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>>59157764
https://showdown-vgcpast-es.psim.us

This server does
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>>59157755
Yes, but aside from Spore and maybe Shadow Tag, none of those are any good at all.
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I can't believe I'm doing somewhat decently when the only form of competitive I know is battle facilities and pvp with friends in Showdown randoms.
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>>59157791
thats what happens when youre against bots and kids
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>>59157755
Item Clause (something Smogon should have done ages ago) so you can’t just slap lefties on everything. Also it will always be choose 4 so it’s harder to build a team that can check everything, which makes “war of attrition” strategies like boostpass and evasion stall tricky to pull off even if they’re legal.

Sleep spam is probably the one Smog-banned technique that has real prevalence in VGC, even with sus mushroom gone in Champions. And I guess OHKO strats now with entrainment no guard lucha running around
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>>59157793
>bots
Haven't met a single bot after the first 2 games. Running the exact same team and opening with the same 2 Pokemon.
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>>59157791
Early on no one seems to use protect so I've swept early games by just clicking a boosted spread move
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>>59157802
Why is Zard Y so much smaller than base Zard?
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im a super rusty player who hasn't played pokemon in 10+ years, and has never played competitive before. should i start with 3v3 singles, or just jump straight into doubles?
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>>59157666
I need a sneesler but I'm at work right now. If you're on later I'll gladly take you up on your offer
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>>59157811
just reply to my post again and 4chan x should alert me
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Sick joke that this gets home support day one
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>>59157810
Doubles. It looks more complex on the surface but I think it’s an easier format. 3v3 singles is a hyper offense nightmare where winning is just “having a meta-dominating team” it’s too fast for any real tactical maneuvering
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I'm adamant on running regular Samurott for fun. Any good team recommendations?
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>>59157791
If you play showdown randoms you honestly have a better understanding of competitive pokemon than 90% of the playerbase.
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>>59157810
Doubles will get more community attention due to VGC, though Singles definitely has shooters. I suppose Doubles by nature will be more sweaty, so it depends on what experience you want to have.
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>>59157783
oh ty
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>>59157810
It's a pretty good time to dip into doubles without being overwhelmed (relatively speaking).
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>>59157814
Will do
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>"Makes the target flinch. This move fails if the target isn't about to use a priority move. "
>doesn't work on trick room
Who thought this was a good idea?
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>>59157727
You forgot dynamaxed

But unfortunately no, we already know from SuMo that regional gimmicks are mutually exclusive even if a mon can technically equip both.

But not mutually exclusive resource spent. You can have a Z and a Mega both activate, they just can't be the same mon.

I kind of don't expect it to stay that way though, ZA had plus moves and mega use the same resource.

Since they don't take a held slot and are available to your whole party and provide defensive and offensive benefit, Tera and Dmax using the same go juice would help balance them.

Since in-game boosts like PPup and EV training don't transfer, I also heavily suspect that dmax candy bonuses won't apply, and thus Dmax will only give +50% health instead of +100%, which helps Dmax not be nearly so disruptive in strength compared to the other 3 gimmicks.
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>>59157810
I think doubles would give you a better sense of teambuilding and what mons do what, because you have to actively cover your weaknesses and set up things like weather for the benefit of your sweepers. It's also the format of choice for VGC if that matters to you at all.
But doubles also can be more complex so if you're worried about the brainload you may find 3v3 better. Personally I don't think it's too hard to learn the ropes because the game does some lifting for you (telling you what is effective, letting you see field statuses, etc.)
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>>59157837
Trick Room isn’t priority.
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>>59157604
Oof. I'm around 1600+, I didn't think I sucked that bad
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>>59157810
Singles is simultaneously easier and somehow more bullshit than doubles
Doubles has a lot of interactions and can easily overwhelm someone who isn't roughly familiar with all the mons and moves, but in singles if you fuck up once or bring the wrong mons to the game the chance of getting swept is huge
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>>59157797
I love that this exists, because it combines two absolutely dogshit sets I tried to make work back in college (Entrainment Unburden Hawlucha in Gen 6, scarf Luxe with Sheer Cold in Gen 7) in a way that makes them almost not suck.
Any tips for team support, besides a Tailwinder and maybe Dragapult or something? I imagine mind games are a huge part of piloting it well, with the pressure of Entrainment.
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>>59157797
And that's true for the 3v3 singles too right?
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How viable is Mega Gardevoir in Doubles? I'm climbing Singles for now with the usual team I play the occasional online battles with in the main games. I'm thinking I'd like to try Doubles when I'm done with Singles, but I've never given much focus to Doubles. I'd still want my bro on the team but I'd want it to be a singles team so everyone else could be different. Maybe enabling spam spread Hyper Voice?

Also now I got the connection issues sorted I'm actually having fun. Curious where they'll go with the future updates. I assume each season will have small changes and gradually more items/mons but I wonder if/when we'll get entirely new stuff (like new items the main games didn't have before).
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>>59157816
It has to or everyone would have to rely on the ranch.

This exists to squeeze extra sales on old switch games as much as it exists to solve the "dexit fucks with VGC" issue
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>playing this absolute kusoge
Nintencucks, everyone.
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>>59157546
The bots have a lot of cosmetic bling and very S C A R Y F A C E s.
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>>59157882
It's free.
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>>59157863
Yes. BSS is also bring 6 pick (3, not 4), species clause, item clause, no other restrictions apart from the limits of what items/mons are available.

As the mon roster expands they may do other limits (banning mons that are otherwise in-game, and restricted formats that let you pick one or sometimes two boxart legendaries) but there are no “banned mechanics”. If it works in single player it works here.

Actually there is one other limit which is all mons are set to lv 50; in Smogon, mons default to the set level (100 in their case) but you CAN run lower level if you want, which does impact certain meme strats. No FEAR, Shell Bell Aron or Berry Juice Magnemite in VGC.
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>59157882
You'll get more (You)s if you post about it on /v/.
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>cant break out of ultra ball
i might be bad
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>>59157876
she's good, just overshadowed by floette
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>>59157215
it's the awful tranny color palette, idk why they keep doing it. i think she's alright otherwise
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>>59157882
Not going to excuse the shitty launch, but it's still somewhat enjoyable right now and you're better off just hoarding shit for the future. It's sad to have this "they'll patch these later" mentality even if it's free, I'll admit.
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Are EV spreads higher than normal? It's not much but stats are a tad higher than mainline allows.
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is the beginner rank battle in the tutorial an npc or did i just wipe the floor with some clueless japanese kid
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>>59157910
It depends. The max value a single stat can reach has not changed. Also the max points available has not changed IF you invest points in every stat. However the math is changed such that if you do a 2-stat max-out, instead of having a single extra point to dump in a third stat, you have two extra points to dump.
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>>59157914
It's an NPC
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do you think this game will actually make competitive pokemon more popular?
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>>59157882
What's wrong with it?
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Incineroar is so fucking bullshit, ban when.
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>>59156944
the japanese disapprove
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>>59157925
Right now, probably no difference. I think the biggest contribution is simply the mobile client.
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>>59157938
her eyes are definitely weirdly close together
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>>59157945
You can play showdown on mobile too though.
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>>59157925
I'm honestly curious about that. It'll certainly make it more accessible on a surface level with it being free and on phones, but is that necessarily something that'll land with mobile players?

I think it can work, a way to play Pokemon battles quickly on your phone is definitely surface level appealing, but as it is now, just online competitive battles, is that gonna pull in a new crowd on mobile? I feel like the game probably needs a bit more content meat to it for that.
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>>59157951
>shitdowns
nah
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>>59157948
I'm amazed it only took them 30 years to finally make an unfuckable girl.
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>>59157938
>R34
>5 damn images this late after public character showcase
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Since this is a competitive game now finally when are they going to do balance changes to certain pokemon stats and megas
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what does lop run now without return/frustration
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>>59157963
They have literally done that before and this game launched with multiple balance changes you can see in the OP image.
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The vast majority of people will probably drift towards singles because that's what the games do. And whether they choose singles or doubles, they'll eventually lose interest because they'll get stomped by sweatlords while they're just trying to use their favorite shitmons. Women especially, they wanna use cute Eevees and stuff and they're going to run up against a dude with thousands of hours in Showdown running Archaludons.
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Personally I really like doubles because the possibilities for team comps feel more elaborate, with that said I fucking hate Archaludon, what should I include in a team around Mega Starmie to counteract this nigger?
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>Trop Kick buff
How do I make her work? Her stats are so frustrating to work with.

I used to run Assault Vest but that's gone, which is a shame because AV with a bunch of utility moves (Rapid Spin, Knock Off, Trop Kick, U-Turn) actually got me some mileage.
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>>59157967
Okay but like some of the za mega abilities are so unsalvageable. No one is using Mega Victreebel or Chesnaught or Delphox or Greninja or Feraligatr or Emboar or Meganium.
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>>59157981
>Delphox
>Meganium
you fool
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>>59157925
Tough call. The initial launch was bad and the word of mouth mostly bad even from "pros".

Besides that, it's not really that accessible for people who haven't touched the more recent titles. You're wasting a ton of vp to recruit, train and get items. Even moreso when you have no idea what the fuck you're doing, so it's like you're actively getting punished for trying and learning.
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>>59157983
Well at least i haven't seen it. Meganium's I thought would've been good but I haven't seen it and Levitate doesn't seem all that useful
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>>59157981
I’ve been using Mega Victreebel with some success
everyone’s scared to do big hits while you Strength Sap them to uselessness
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>>59157981
I dont ever want to see m-feraligatr's face so this works out to my favor
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>>59157989
The biggest thing is the Dexcut. Casuals want to use their favorite mons, not Smogons favorites.
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>>59157994
>Meganium
Sand teams run it sometimes because it covers a lot of their weaknesses really well
>Delphox
Levitate means you can pair it with Scarf Chomp, and it gets 134 speed Encore too
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>>59157981
Delphox, Grenigger, Feraligatr and Meganium are all fine. Grenigger is more of the same, Delphox can time ground immunity, Feraligatr especially since the only thing thats gonna outspeed him at +1 is Dragapult and Meganium is a solid switch in for rain teams.
Emboar is unironically a downgrade but he can setup and wallbreak Clefable I guess then maybe bbq a dondozo with wild charge.
You need to stop pretending this tier is full of broken op legendaries in 180 base speed tiers with great bulk
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>>59158008
The Dexcut wouldn't be as much of an issue if there was some thought behind it. But then you see shit like Whimsicott, Incin, Sneasler and some other cancerous mons and it just comes off as an insult. They didn't buff the Pokemon that needed it and there's also plenty of Megas missing that could have had their time to shine.

Though looking at what most new Megas have gotten...
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>>59157979
I use her on my snow team to protect mega Froslass from Kingambit and kill them with low kick.
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>>59157979
I’ve seen her get used into Dragonite because of Triple Axel plus shutting down Extreme Speed.
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>>59157979
Queenly Majesty fucks over priority moves and since Tsareena is pretty niche I doubt a lot of people climbing will know that. Could do a weird Persim Berry+Teeter Dance then just spam Acupressure or Helping Hand.
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>>59157854
I think Farigiraf with Hyper Voice or Dazzling Gleam could help break Sturdy/Focus Sash leads that shut down the Entrainment strats.
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mega scovillian is incredibly annoying
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>>59157011
Ive been using snow warning abomasnow with aurora veil next to snow cloak frosslass. As long as the snow stays up abomasnow is bulky enough to spam blizzard. Also if they switch in Ttar or another weather setter I can just mega frosslass and reset the snow without switching out.
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>>59157959
>Girl
See, that's how they succeeded, "she's" pretty much canonically trans.

Color scheme, that balding hairline, body shape of a male twink that just started growing misshapen gynecomastic tits, name is literally a pun on a species of Bullrush Sedge (because basically all modern pokemon names are obscure plants), Tutorial because she teaches you stuff, and a Japanese shortening of trans "Toransu -> Tora"
Grandfather "accidentally" had a female gallade at launch, you're not slick ILCA.
Then they gave the farm girl a literal BLACK BVLL tattoo. Which I'm surprised TPCi hasn't pitched a fit about, because tattoos have a lot more stigma in Japan, they won't even let you into an onsen if you have one, even if it's something innocuous like an ankle tat of hello kitty.
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>three people in a row running Zoroark disguise bullshit
the hell
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>>59158110
I only run a hisuian one to play mind games with inshiteroar fags
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>>59158101
2 colors broke you
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>>59158139
>just ignore your lying eyes
This is basically society right now, people want to believe everything is ok when the world is on the brink of total collapse and literal demons rule over us
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>>59158144
Evil people rule us but two colors have nothing to do with that.
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>>59158101
Never post about my wife again
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>>59157925
Maybe, but this game is not for casuals really.
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>>59158074
I've been having fun with Blizzard strats to, though I use M-Froslass to set up veil and Glaceon. I also use Snow Cloak on Glaceon but honestly that's only because Ice Body sucks ass.
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Any advice on how to make an aromatisse team work? Ive always wanted to use it and I feel like with the slim roster this might be my only chance but there are some really strong steel types in the game right now.
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>>59158101
You need to go back >>>/pol/
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>>59157994
Levitate is actively a nerf, it turns off expanding force's psychic terrain buff.

>>59158110
Does zoroark disguise as the last Mon in your team of 6, or last Mon in your selected 4?
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>Moving a Shiny Charizard from SwSh to Champions so I can Mega it
>look at it's Summary
>From Alola
>OT: /vp/
Holy fuck I remember those giveaways, I had no idea I even still had shit from them. What a blast from the past
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>>59158194
Selected 4 you can't pretend to be a mon you didn't bring
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>>59156966
>for some reason
Switch Online evasion probably
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>>59158139
>>59158158
>>59158167
>>59158185
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>>59158267
I don't deny this
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Mega lopunny is fun to use
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>>59158267
This is a skirt
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>>59158101
>Toransu -> Tora
She's named Totora so no
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I love Tatora and Chikorita
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>>59157814
Alright anon i'm home and ready to trade for sneedler if you're still around
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>>59158312
wtf. are you me?
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>>59158318
Depends. Did you dress up your male ZA character as a girl too?
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why is the daily free recruit a 22 hour cooldown. It's such an autistic cutoff. If it's gonna be less than 24hrs it may as well be 12 but now it's on this weird trajectory. Nevermind how getting bored and wanting to recruit w/ early tickets completely resets it.
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>>59158326
Every gacha does it I think, so there's probably a reason
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>>59157966
Mine's Fake Out, CC, Axel and U-turn
Just pray you'll hit axel and you're good
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Imprison Farigaraf is such a bitch move I hate it so much
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>>59158313
Sorry for the wait, the room code is 9999-9999
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>>59158324
No I didn't play ZA. And I'm not a fag. A bit redundant, I know.
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>>59158363
You are lucky to not be me
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>>59158326
>>59158331
It's meant to be once a day but if they make it exactly 24 hours you end up in a cycle where it inevitably gets pushed further and further in the day.

>wake up
>do recruit at 8am
>next day do it at 8:01am
>next day didn't happen to be able to play at the exact time, do it at 8:05am
etc. etc and you end up with the timer being at some time several hours later when you'd be in the middle of a busy day.

22 hours gives you leeway in that you don't get stuck in some permanent loop of the time it unlocks being later and later in the day.
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>>59158375
I don't see why the timer has to reset when you recruit, just make it reset at the same time each day like dailies.
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>>59158362
Do you still have the room up? It's not able to find it
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>>59158383
yeah thats what im saying
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>>59158403
>_>; i had been searching in offline mode my bad
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>>59158342
>cc
Coward
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>>59158408
LMAO dont worry i started doing that at first too
Thanks you the Sneed! It's a huge help!
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>>59158410
I know
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>>59158415
You're very welcome.
>beast ball
Very nice, enjoy the moon ball, it was a pain to get.
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>>59158342
NTA but I run the same thing except T-Punch instead of uturn but am tempted to make the switch.
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I hope they add Kieran's hairstyle soon
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Has Sweet Scent ever been viable in any metas?
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>>59158430
needs his Eren scream as a pre-battle pose too
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Oh Mama, I'm in fear for my streak
from the opponent’s Incineroa
Fake Out has put an end to my tailwind
and I'm so far from an OHKO
Oh Whimsy, I can hear you flinching
you're so scared and focus sash broke
Mega Charizard is comin' down from the back
And we don't have any checks (yeah!)
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>>59158383
It’s because it’s using the same system as Pokemon pocket where 1 ticket=1 hour and it’s constantly rolling
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How do I link the game to Home? Maybe I'm retarded but I'm not seeing the option to do it from Home and when I go to the collect from Home option in-game it just tells me to link
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>>59158301
>To-Tora

You fuckin blind?
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>>59158450
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>>59158450
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>annihilape not allowed in champions
cut my life into pieces
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>>59158450
Select a Mon and tell it to go to champions
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>>59158455
Never heard of Trtrans people
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>>59158462
>>59158461
I haven't used Home in so long that I didn't realize that Icon wasn't always there. My mistake
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>>59158465
Ah, so you're just not familiar with the concept of a pun then.
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Scarfed Imposter Ditto in the back is actually really funny. You steal someone’s mega and outspeed it, or 1v1 their Archaludon in the rain, Just remember you always copy the mon across from you. Also don’t use fake out or its struggle city.
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>M-Delphox
>Milotic to keep Incineroar away
>Kingambit for same + Floette
>Scarf Garchomp
>Aerodactyl or maybe Talonflame w/Sunny Day and Tailwind
For the last slot, I'm thinking special Kommo-o with Scales/Aura/Vacuum/Protect to kill Archaludon. Are there any obvious weaknesses I'm missing?
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>>59158326
Yeah its unnecessarily predatory considering you cant even buy tickets or vp outright and the daily mission tied to recruiting, so youre stuck wanting to recruit after battling for a bit and waiting for the daily reset to do the free and maybe a couple ticket pulls otherwise you fuck yourself
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>>59158465
>B-rock
>Rox-anne
>Roark
>Obviously not rock type because their name isn't just Rock.
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>>59158469
>>59158485
>TPCi voluntarily introducing trans people in the game even after having to debunk Iono
Delusional. Why are the antis as bad as the most obnoxious part of the pros.
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is there anything more embarrassing than running perish trap and still fucking losing
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>>59157897
I went on a 10 win streak into Ultra ball and then hit a brick wall because too much of my team is weak against Charizard/Kinggambit but it’s hard to fix without tearing the whole thing down and starting over basically
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How do I use Feraligatr successfully in doubles? This thing feels like dead weight.
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How do I use regular Starmie successfully? It's too slow and too fragile. The coverage is great in theory but mine always gets one shot. Is Mega Starmie the only way?
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>>59157814
wondering if you have any archaludon or sinistchas laying around. I only have some BS in Home I transferred from Go earlier today
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>error on picking pokemon
>return to title screen
>enter again
>back to pokemon select
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I'm scooping up mons to send to Champions in my SV file because I've got maxed out money and infinite team building resources due to spamming the everloving fuck out of Raids before I quit playing. What's Maushold's optimal EV spread? Pikalytics seems to no longer have the feature of also seeing the most commonly run spreads which sucks because it was super helpful when I first started team building on cart years ago.
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>>59158604
I don’t know the answer to this but you can check common EV spreads in game under battle data
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I have a Sneasler if anyone has an Archaludon they can spare. I've decided to embrace the cancer.
>>59158604
If you're talking about champions it has ingame analytics under battle data, you can see spreads, natures, movesets, teammates, items.
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>Most people in doubles run heat wave over flamethrower on Delphox.
Thoughts on this? I thought attacks that hit all opponents have reduced power
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>>59157257
Could you please trade me a Hisuian Zoroark, male Basculegion and Iron Valiant? If it's not too much to ask for more, also a Ceruledge, Archaludon, Incineroar, Starmie, and Palafin would be nice, any of them.
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>>59157202
what does that mean...
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>>59158610
>>59158614
Thanks, didn't realize this was a feature.
>>59158616
They do, but sometimes hitting both foes is just better damage value overall. Thinking in terms of all opponents having a "shared HP pool" that needs to be depleted is why a LOT of stuff that seems underwhelming at first becomes good when you think on it, like the teamwide damage over time GMax move effects in SwSh.
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I JUST FUCKING LOST TO A SAMUROTT PROCCING QUICK CLAW
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>>59157257
>>59157280
I'd like an Archaludon please and thank you. I've put up a 5 IV Ditto from LGP with the name "5IV" he's docile and in a great ball.
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>>59158623
It's a copy of the original and not the original. Like if someone made a perfect replica of your body, put a copy of your mind into the body, then killed you and let the duplicate roam as if it was you.
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>>59157257
you're the homie. I'm looking for archaludon, basculegion male, and sinistcha if you have time
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What team can I make that will be the most annoying for others?
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>>59158643
No......
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>>59158646
did she need such fat tits?
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>>59158646
Skill Link Toucannon with Kings Rock
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>>59158637
>Put Quick Claw on the freebie Machamp to try and steal games w/ No Guard Dynamic Punch
>literally never procs
>the first time I need to use Bullet Punch on something
>quick claw procs
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>>59158665
Yes
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>>59158646
minimize sand veil bright powder sandaconda
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Fuwawa CC would be unstoppable.
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>>59158665
>those
>fat
absolutely not
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>>59158645
>>59157280

just saw your follow up post. I put 3 bunneblys in. trainer name: deezy, ID: 683802
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>>59158686
Those are twice the size when out
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Who’s another fake out I can use that isn’t sneedler or incin
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Proccing Flash Fire on a Switch from Corvi to Ceruledge feels so good
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>>59158695
Tinkaton
The Gen V monkes
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>>59158695
Weavile. Faster than Sneadsler too.
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>>59158695
weavile
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>>59158691
two times one is still only two. she needs to be significantly larger
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>ending a 5 win streak on a 10% freeze
>they forfeited
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>>59158571
It is. Gatr is a singles pokemon.
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Manectric is pretty cool actually. I never really liked it's design but it's fast enough and has lightning rod considering that I'm running into a lot of Pelliper/Archaludon teams.
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Mudsdale or Hisui Arcanine?
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>>59158747
Like for what, having sex with?
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I'm hardstuck in Great Ball losing to fucking brightpowder Sableye. The fucker dodge two Moon Blasts. Some players just have all the luck.
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As someone who doesn't play a lot of PvP f2p stuff, what would you guys like to see in future updates? I genuinely have no idea. Besides more items and mons, I mean.
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>>59158797
Better menu. The current one sucks.
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>>59158797
Battle Tower where you can battle NPCs. And a rentals ladder
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>>59158646
They hate her cause they ain't her
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>>59158797
A training mode would be nice. Somewhere you can figure out exact def/spdef you need to survive hits from meta threats for example
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>>59158797
more and actually different outfits, and for actual gameplay maybe some leagues with the top x pokemon of the current roster restricted
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>>59158797
remove the gacha shit in favor of just copying a pokemon
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Getting real tired of there paint by number tryhards and their teams.
Its fucking Pokéball tier 2. Chill the fuck out. Zoomers min maxing and optimizing everything through Google is getting fucking tiresome.
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I just saw someone with a male avatar pick female clothes and have the girl expressions. I hate this game already.
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>>59158797
Actual customizable rules for private battles. I really really fucking hope they allow for proper 6v6 at some point. Multi battles would also be really fun.
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The tutorial has a whole mega evolution trainer animation that you never see in matches because it's like 5 seconds of preamble but it looks cool
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>>59158855
>no whimsi
>no peli
>no vgcgato
>no sneedler
nothing about this team is tryhard or meta, quit being a whiny bitch
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>>59158870
>I really really fucking hope they allow for proper 6v6 at some point
I hope they don’t Smogon has destroyed the ability to talk about comp Pokemon
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>>59158855
>THE evil isaac
good fucking luck anon, assuming he didn't kill you already
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>>59158855
This is the most Timmy team I've ever seen you fucking crybaby.
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>>59158855
This is the opposite of tryhard minmax, that's little Timmy using his faves and the cool ones
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What does corviknight do?
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>>59158885
Okay but you don't have to play it if you don't want to, so why not have it for fun?
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>>59158902
bulk up
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>>59158902
Body Press you into the sun.
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everyone who pulls up with an in-game team like this is either a child or a certified shitter. think about what that makes you for both losing to and subsequently crying about them
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>>59158797
There is no reason to have both a monthly subscription AND a seasonal fight pass for a game this shallow. Either combine them or get rid of one of them.
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>>59158882
>>59158886
>>59158894
>>59158891
..... This was my team. Mega Dragonite swept me.
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>>59158915
Yes there is
Line must go up
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No sand attack?
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>>59158918
You’re not even trying to win why be sad when you lose?
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>>59158918
>quick claw on the fastest mon in the game
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>regular Samurott 1v3 the enemy's team
My shitty boy is actually doing his best. He's no Primarina or Basculegion, but that's A-ok.

Please buff my boy GF...
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>>59158933
It's to beat scarf Dragapult trust his vision.
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>>59157925
When it gets to mobile, I'm certain it will be played furiously. Like, I can't bring my Switch to play while I'm outside
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>>59158933
I put claw and scarf on my Garchop and it feels so good watching mirrors get smashed, especially Mega Garchomp
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>>59158948
Wow your gorchamp gets to use TWO items?
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>Azumarill steamrolls with just Bellydrum
Reminds me of good old XY. Something never changes
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>>59158961
I keep facing faster bulky mons that resist aqua jet so I had to replace mine unfortunately
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>>59158918
Leave it to a Meganiumtard to be retarded whiny crybaby loser.
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>>59158621
>>59158640
>>59158645
Didn't realize this would get a lot of traction. Just got home so will do some catching!
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>rank-up game to great ball after I decide to give doubles a spin
>opponent has a unique team - really start to pick my brain about how I'm gonna keep my weather in play through his Mega Froslass
>it's just a bot and he uses Fake Tears never even tries to go mega with 4x Pokemon capable of it
sure I'll just take the VP I guess. no fun
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Sitrus or leftovers on primarina?
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>l
>>59158885
>Smogon has destroyed the ability to talk about comp Pokemon
surely you mean by way of triggering casuals’ autism?
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>>59158855
>>59158918
Please direct me to which Twitter account or YouTube video you got this from, because it sure as hell isn't yours
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>double crit on orthworm, flinch everything else, shit all over me
how do I report someone, kill yourself nigger
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Is scarf h-typhlosion good for Ultra ball tier?
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>tatora has sex with you when you lose
>kitt has sex with pokemon when you lose
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Aerodactyl fucks actually. It’s performing much better than whimsicott
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>>59158992
If you don't mind also adding a Sneasler to >>59158621 unless it's a pain to get.
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hit the lottery against a real player for once. Brightpowder Rotom dodged 2x 100% accuracy attacks, and Quick Claw Machamp procced twice, one was a Dynamic Punch one shot, another was a Dynamic Punch w/ successful confusion self-hit. He probably uninstalled
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>>59159107
should i run quick claw on champ for extra ragebait? i'm using lum right now to avoid gay statuses but the idea of having more rng faggotry is a bit tempting
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>>59159142
the item pool is so lackluster that Claw/Powder/King's Rock faggotry don't feel that unorthodox. Leftovers never feels worth it, especially when the only Singles format is 3x3. Paralysis nerf has me questioning how good Lum even is but there's no sleep clause so it's still a good option. For Machamp though yeah Quick Claw has been amazing. I see it like this: Quick Claw might just be a random chance, but your opponent having a status, one that would've even impacted Machamp negatively, is also a pretty low chance. That's just my 2 cents, haven't played VGC or the meta itself in years.
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>Run Snow Cloak
>Equip Bright Powder
>Hide behind Aurora Veil
This makes the smoggies seethe and dilate uncontrollably
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How did my opponent's venusaur ignore my rage powder? Hey you're not allowed to do that
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How goes your matches? Did you hit master yet?
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>>59159159
Rage Powder is, notably, a powder move.
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>just won a game where i timed out move selection turn 1 AND got a double miss on heat wave
GOD I WISH THIS GAME HAD VS RECORDER
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I just sent in a forretress against a mega ttar. It used knock off and forretress didn't even resist it. It did full damage. That can't be right unless there's something new I don't understand. I know I was holding something but it didn't even say it wasn't very effective.
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Can someone do a private battle with me for the VP...

Room ID: 9821 8639
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>>59159166
Thank you for joining...
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>>59159165
Steel doesn't resist dark anymore
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>>59159164
>>59159159
>opponent was spamming rage powder against a venusaur and a spread move
OH MY GOD YOU MIGHT BE THE GUY I JUST BEAT
DID THE VENUSAUR USE EARTH POWER AND SLEEP POWDER INTO KINGAMBIT
grass types are immune to powder moves since gen 6
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>>59159159
>Gen VI onwards
>Grass-type Pokémon, Pokémon with Overcoat, Stalwart, Propeller Tail, and Pokémon holding the Safety Goggles are now immune to Rage Powder, such that their attacks are not diverted by it.
I actually just learned that myself, funny, I played until USM and never encountered this.
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>>59159189
Nah some other scrub
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>>59159198
damn alright
still a funny coincidence
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>>59159171
Gg fun battle
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>>59158885
>having options is bad
>the format every mainline game is centered around should never be accessible
>I let a forum centered on a fanfic meta control what I dont like
wow you're so edgy and cool...
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>>59159160
Reached it in singles. Ultra rank 1 in doubles but my team struggles a bit against Sneasler.
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>>59159215
Thank you
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>>59158885
At one hand I hate Smogon and their obsessive amount of transgenders. On the other hand they are already infesting VGC and singles is a better format.
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I just want to make Ceruledge work. Why is it so hard?
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>>59158621
>>59158645
I just finished rounding up the legends Arceus mons. I can trade the Basculegions. I'm going to evolve the Zoroark and sneasle on violet. What did you guys deposit?
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>See people on Reddit, Twitter, and /vp/ cry that without HOME and acces to older Mons the game is unplayable
>She hasn't caught them all
MODS!
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>>59159231
I haven't deposited yet, trading like this is new to me, but I have a ton of Gibles ready to put up. If it's easier I can also friend trade you, here's my friend code HASSKQCVACGR
I am this guy: >>59158621
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>>59158797
>Battle Factory Mode
>The game gens 6 mons for you
>Pick 3
>Go online
>Battle other players
>win: Pick one of their mons and add it to your team(or skip)
>Lose: Back to the start
Throw in a ranked mode and I would play this all damn day!
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>>59159233
A lot of people seem to be confused thinking this is a new Pokemon gacha game, when it's actually VGCs the app
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I don't care that Sylveon is a trans icon. I like the pokemon and I will sweep with my powerfully male Sylveon named Sylvestor.
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>>59156928
>Shiny
Can I train up the shinies I get here and transfer them to other games with the same stats and EVs? Like I got a shiny Dragapult with a matching ball, but it has shit stats.
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>>59159235
Just sent a request.
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>>59159241
The training they receive here does not transfer back to HOME
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People can trade you mons on HOME?
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>>59159241
Nothing you do with it in Champions carries over to the other games. On the other hand, anything you do with it in Champions is saved, even if you take it out.
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>>59159241
The gacha mons can't leave Champions.
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>>59159235
That's one down, work on the rest at the moment
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>>59159243
Bummer. At least it's cool to look at still. Idk if the odds are different here or they snuck some stuff in under the hood.
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>>59159242
Appreciate it. Did you have other mons to trade right now besides Basculegion?
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>>59159250
Gotcha
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>>59159252
Not yet, legends Arceus mons take a minute to get because of their evolution requirements. I'm getting the others now
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Never used HOME. Is it free to transfer my team from Shield to it and then to Champions?
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>penusaur sleep powder miss, then 1 turn when it hit
i shouldn't be using this anymore huh
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Why is everyone online black?
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It's funny how the main complaint before the game came out was the microtransactions/VP being predatory but now that it's out pretty much everything surrounding it is drawing ire whereas VP is completely trivial to obtain and gets you almost everything even as a pure F2P
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>>59159261
Yes
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>>59159276
i've built like 5 pokemon for ranked and i still have 30k VP left. idk how this game is going to make money
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>>59159270
>why is ケンスケ black
You're fighting clankers
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>tried out Char-X for old times sake
>first opponent lead with Gyarados
Nice joke, Ilca
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>>59159284
I see English names too. Everyone online is black.
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>>59157979
>>59158045
>>59158039
>>59158038
Wait, you guys rolled my wife?
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I've seen Japanese playing black characters on twitter
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There's nothing wrong with being black...
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>>59159256
Btw, starmie isn't in either game so I can't do that one and palafin is trade only evo. Would finizen evolve in home?
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>>59159293
I would have many private battles with your trainer anon
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>>59159296
No worries, yeah all I have is Scarlet and I just found out Starmie isn't in there. No need for Finizen either. If you have one free, I'd love an Ursaluna, but it not don't worry about it.
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>add Ice to my team to do the 10 EE weekly
>no one running Garchomp
Seriously?
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>>59159299
Thank you...
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>>59159303
Add Fighting for Ttars and Electric for Pellipers
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>>59159308
What's a good electric pokemon? I don't even have a Pikachu now that I take a closer look of my roster. Rotom-W?
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>>59159299
>>59159304
Your mega sharpedo is a fucking nigger. I intimidated it twice and it still raped my gyarados!
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>>59159310
Rotom is the safest choice if you want an Electric type. For coverage moves there's Dragonite, who gets Thunder Punch or Thunderbolt. For Fighting, it's M-Lounny or Sneedsler. For Fighting coverage try Low Kick on Kingambit.
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>>59159301
Let me just finish this round and get everyone else's mons first. Ursulna will take a minute
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>>59159319
Not a problem, thanks again.
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this farigiraf trick room shit really is peak pedophilia huh
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>>59159304
Don't listen to the other anon your Sharpedo is very cool
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>>59157257
>>59159231
Idk if you're still doing this, but I would really apprciate if you could trade me a Basculegion too
I just put a Duralodon on the GTS for it. Trainer name is ipsom
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>set up rocks and possibly t-spikes with glimmora
>punch some holes in physical walls and/or dark-types with your second member
>clean up with scarf last respects basculegion
It really is that easy in singles, huh
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>>59158992
Thanks man, you're the GOAT
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>>59158621
>>59158645
>>59158640
Alright, mons are ready - put them on GTS and let me know what to look for (If you did alreardy did, I'll shift through the you's to see what it was)

>>59159342
I'm glad I bread one extra, sure I can do that
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>>59159354
>>59158621
Would you mind if we trade via friend trades again?
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>>59159354
You rock, seriously. I know I asked for a lot. I appreciate it.
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>>59159354
Thanks man! You're the best!
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>>59159386
No problem anon, I think you also wanted the Sneasler too which I do have
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>>59158640
I don't see it. If the trade was fulfilled, that one wasn't me lmao. I guess you just got one the natural way
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How much does smogon knowledge transfer to this game?
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>>59159389
This game is ripe for fresh reaction images
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>>59159408
lol, thanks for the thought anyways. I guess I did get it regularly
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>>59159413
Is that hyperbeam?
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>>59156985
Gliscor lost Defog in SV.
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>>59159413
>minor spelling mistake
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>>59159420
yep https://x.com/Tey_vgc/status/2041944731110785045
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>>59159410
If you have played any smogon singles you know more about competitive mons than 90% of the player base
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whats the best counter to palafin using flip turn and slapping my shit?
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I have trouble choosing a lead because I want to setup rocks, maybe Glimmora? I tried using Aggron but i'm not having good results
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thanks, I love getting flinched twice in a row from rock slide
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>>59159433
Gyarados
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>>59159439
You have to bust out the ol reliable THE Chomp
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>>59159439
Focus Sash Kleavor
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I'm the biggest timmy itt
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>>59159451
rank
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>>59159451
That can't be true since I exist
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>>59158646
moody double team glalie with 3 pure support mons
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>>59159454
ultra ball singles and great ball doubles

>>59159456
prove it
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>joined warm up battles
>didn't know it's VGC format. Sent in my singles team
>oh shit
>2nd battle already has Protect spam
>oh shitx2
>opposing dying garchomp 1-2 me with EQ, leaving Azumarill against their Froslass + Chomp
>oh shitx3
>somehow still managed to win going AJ + PR + PR + AJ
Pikablue is ridiculous
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why yes, i do use Mega Charizard Y
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Good rapid spinners? My main (Cryogonal) isn't in yet.
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>>59159439
No reason not to use Glimmora for potential toxic spikes
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>>59159462
>ultra ball singles and great ball doubles
thats pretty godlike, anon
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My brain is too small for doubles
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>>59159464
Y tho
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What's a good moveset for doubles milotic?
Protect, muddy water, icy wind...
Can't think of a fourth, maybe just ice beam or alluring voice
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>>59159523
>>59159523
>>59159523
New bread
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>made a team from the ground up to counter charizard team.
>don't know what mon 6 should be
>chuck in rotom-wash and hope for the best
>get matched vs 0 charizard teams and win all my practice games anyway so i don't know what to fix or if the core idea is any good or even works
>scared that now im just going to lose to players that are better and outskill me due to the increase in mmr
how 2 learn how 2 judge teams plz
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>>59159528
Scald you goober



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