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Where would put Koraidon and Miraidon in a powerscaling level? I can scale some of the other box legendary (some) and see how powerful they are, but the Raidons make it hard to tell where to place them.
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They don't really do anything, no? Like just juice up the Paradoxes with influencing the atmosphere but that's about it. They seem weaker than Groudon/Kyogre, which are ACTUALLY Super Ancient Pokemon
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>>59163253
this desu
probably the weakest box legendaries, not named suicune and thats fine, they had to probably nerf them due to getting them so early
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>>59163253
Miraidon basically nukes everything with ebolt
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>>59163178
beezlemon's bitch/10
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>>59163178
They're apex predators from an era where shitmons like Misdreavus are 570bst minmaxed monsters. They're nothing to sneeze at.
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>>59163178
They're basically Reshiram and Zekrom 2.0.
The paradoxes draw power from sunlight/electricity. The Raidons freely produce their own energy.
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Probably below the dogs
Considering they are a fantasy spin on cyclizer as an apex predator made real
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>>59163178
So let me put it like this,

1- baby pokemon
2- stage one
3- stage one fully evolved (cyclizar)
4- stage two
5- stage two fully evolved
6- stage three
7- pseudo legendary
8- miraidon/koraidon
9- legendary pokemon with multiple copies eg. Latis and the birds, solgaleo and lunala
10- one of a kind legendary pokemon like zekrom/rishiram the swsh dogs
11- world shaping/destroying legendarys like the weather trio/ xerneas and ylvetal or zygarde
12- creation trio
13- Arceus

Legendarys are fun because for some there are tons of normal literal animal versions and then random single copy that can break the world or rewrite the universe. Even the creation trio canonically has multiple copies, and a fragment of arceus can just make another one whenever. Miraidon and koraidon are literally just cyclizar fron their time period. There are lots of them and they aren't really special until they are in present day when they scale much higher because of a lower general lower level.
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>>59166378
>10- one of a kind legendary pokemon like zekrom/rishiram the swsh dogs
I'm not convinced the tao trio are actually truly one-ofs. I know their lore says they split from the original dragon but we don't have any evidence that the original dragon actually existed. If it did exist, it's also possible that instead of being 1/2 (or 1/3, whatever, however you wanna split them) they're just something the og dragon could produce. Beyond that, it's entirely possible imo that they could have been one-ofs split from the OG dragon and then were able to reproduce with ditto or whatever as time went on. I think it'd be perfectly suitable to have more than one zekrom, reshiram, or kyurem running around.
I don't know the lore of zacian and zamazenta (never played gen 8 or 9 lol) but I imagine you could justify there being more of them as well.
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>>59166378
Eternatus is the strongest Pokemon
>But I don't like t
Don't care
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>>59164952
>>59166378
>>59164952
Reshiram and Zekrom can destroy the planet. This have been discussed in the game itself, where Drayden explain the story about them. Even Smash Bros. go in deep about it:

>By setting its torch-like tail ablaze, this Pokémon can heat the atmosphere and change the weather. In fact, legend has it that Reshiram's flames are capable of incinerating the world itself, so perhaps the world's continued safety is a sign of its goodwill. Reshiram is said to help those who seek to build a world of truth.
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>>59166440
>I'm not convinced the tao trio are actually truly one-ofs.
Truth is, no legendary is one of a kind anymore. SV had a bunch of them (including the tao trio) living in Paldea, no wormholes or time travel required.
Right now you can only make an argument for Zacian, Zamazenta, Eternatus, Calyrex (but not his horses) and the SV DLC legends being one of a kind.
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>>59164711
>digimon out of nowhere
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>>59166719
>SV had a bunch of them (including the tao trio) living in Paldea, no wormholes or time travel required.
I feel like it's more likely that either a) those legendaries are the same legendaries from their original game which were either never caught by the protagonists of those games or are no longer in the possession of said protagonists, b) because snacksworth only appears after finishing indigo disk he and the legendaries are there because of terapagos reality warping bullshit, or c) the snacksworth stuff is a non-canon gameplay abstraction so the player can catch legendaries for vgc. The game immediately after SV directly states that there is only one Rayquaza so I doubt that the answer is that there are 50 Zekroms running around.
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>>59167772
>The game immediately after SV directly states that there is only one Rayquaza
Where? That screenshot doesn't say it
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>>59167726
NTA but...
>>>out of nowhere
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>>59167726
>>59169374
> Super strength
> Super Speed
> Indestructibility
> Flight
> Beam that can pillow though planet
> Telekinesis
> Barrier

This are the only thing an anime characters needs for scaling. If Ash had an Iron Valiant with all these ability than he could have taken down any Digimon & YGO characters. However this does not guaranty him winning against every pokemon due to their type immunity & various ability since Pokemon powerscaling system is too complicated.
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>>59163253
>They seem weaker than Groudon/Kyogre
I disagree, they seem like they're the Groudon and Kyogre of their respective dimensions. Tbf we don't know how common they are in their respective dimensions but we do know they're essentially the apex life forms in worlds populated by vicious Pokemon that are unusually strong in the normal world
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>>59169502
>he could have taken down any Digimon & YGO characters
>Beam that can pillow though planet
A WHOLE planet? Oh that is just adorable.
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>>59169760
I said Planet, not a planet.
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>>59169694
Groudon and Kyogre can wreck the whole world by waking up, there's no indication the Raidons are anything more than "fights good".



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