Really? You guys were fine with the shitty graphics in all the other switch era pokemon games but THIS is your breaking point????
>>59163825>You guys were fine with the shitty graphics in all the other switch era pokemon gamesYawnie I get you love "/vp/ are hypocrites" arguments but this is just not true lol
I would've been fine with the visuals if the game ran at 60 fps on both Switch 1 and 2.Frame rate matters more than visuals.THERE ARE FUCKING PS2 GAMES LIKE BURNOUT 3 THAT MAINTAIN A NEAR-CONSTANT 60 FPS THIS IS FUCKING UNACCEPTABLE IN 2026
>>59163825Pokopia and ZA looks good to ok on the Switch 2, going back to shit again, yeah Champions deserves to get shat on
>>59163877>frame rate matters>in a turn-based gamePlease. Your eyes can't even read 60 frames per second
>>59163825It's the best looking pokemon game the Switch ever got lol
>>59163907Kek Hell no
>>59163825>SWSHTorn to shreds over the infamous tree>BDSPVisuals alone killed any hype for it, still clowned on to this day>SVLambasted for it's awful performance issues and N64 tier open world>ZASlammed for it's nonexistent building design.Nearly every Switch era Pokemon game has gotten shit for it's dogshit graphics, however Champions is especially bad because it has worse graphics than every other battle sim that predates it, even the one released in 2006 on the Wii. No announcer, like 2 original battle songs, the rest of the OST just being mp3s from older games, some being paid even, forced 30FPS even on Switch 2, same models and animations as mainline, the list really does go on.
>>59163915BUT YOU SHOULDN'T LE EXPECT CONTENT FROM SOMETHING FREEEEEEEEEEEEEE YOU CAMPAIGNSHITTER!!1
>>59163912Name a better looking pokemon game made for the Switch
>>59163924New Pokemon Snap
>>59163924Pokopia
>>59163924Unironically ZA, even with the png buildings at least that runs at 60 fps
>>59163923Man, that's the other thing. The bar for free games has gotten so astronomically high the past decade. With no money in your pocket you can get something like Fortnite, Roblox, uhh, Overwatch, your choice of korean gachaslop, whatever. This guy >>59163845 using "it's a free game so it's okay that it has no content" is opening a dangerous avenue for discussion. If we compare Champions to other completely FTP games then it actually looks even worse. You can have a great single player experience with a game that has visuals, gameplay, storytelling all with high effort cutscenes and voice acting, all for free, meanwhile in Champions you don't even get to battle bots or the characters in the game's """"""story"""""".Spending money on the game doesn't even net you anything worthwhile, just more storage, a profile icon and an ugly outfit, like, what are we doing? This game genuinely has nothing, but the Pokemon brand is too powerful for it to fail.
>>59163928No battles in that game, but you're right. It's the best looking one, unless we count the Wii U game that got ported>>59163931That's a Switch 2 game
>>59163936Z-A only looks good and runs at 60 fps on Switch 2
>>59163937>the Pokemon brand is too powerful for it to failThe "too big to fail" notion needs to end.
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>>59163938So is champions
>>59163940and Champions runs at 30fps and looks like shit on both Switch 1 and 2
>>59163945Prove me wrong then, Gamefreak has released non Pokemon titles and they were catastrophic failures, it is an objective fact that they cannot succeed without Pokemon. Even the most dogshit Pokemon title with no effort put into it and terrible reviews sold over 15 million, what do you call that besides Pokemon having the strongest branding and most whipped fanbase in history?
>>59163938>That's a Switch 2 game
>>59163947Champions is a game made for the Switch with no Switch 2 version>>59163950Common thing with games made for Switch that don't have an update that makes use of the Switch 2 hardware nor a Switch 2 Edition >>59163956>Ask for a Switch game>Names a Switch 2 gameThe only one moving the goalpost is you
>>59163953Wish one of their games would be an existential failure for Pokemon to force game freak to get their shit together. Scat and vommit should have been that but pokemon fans are such huge sloppers they made it the best selling Pokemon game ever despite it looking like a ps2 game
>>59163937No one cares about hoyo shit. You're delusional if you still think you need to spend money on Champions
>>59163983>he bought champions
Champions looks like ass
>>59163825https://youtu.be/98QBQ-ftLVM?t=16>Mogged by a 20 year old gameChampions could never. People complaining now because they are finally done with dealing with the laziness, it's the first battle game on the switch2 and it looks even worse than the switch1 games
>>59163825the other Switch games at least had game to make up for shitty graphics and performance. Champions is a battle simulator, the battles should look good
>>59164058It's not a Switch 2 game though, it's a Switch game
>>59163915>Slammed for it's nonexistent building design.Gotta love how this is the absolute worst criteria for how ‘bad’ ZA looks.The buildings do look pretty ass, but apart from that ZA looks perfectly fine.On Switch 2 it even feels nice to play thanks to fixed 60FPS. It’s pretty overhated imo.
>>59163825Yes. Although I wasn’t ok with the others this isn’t even better at competitive than fucking SV. They made a game that literally isn’t worth your time
>>59164058>Pokemon will Never Ever have his much Soul againFucking Grim
>>59164083ILCA is a Small Indie Company Prease Understaduuu
>>59163825the only, singular thing this game does is battles. There's no overworld, no movement, no story, no gyms, no minigames, only 4 characters, and less pokemon than stadium 2. The sole, singular purpose of this game is to be a cool looking battle simulator. There is ZERO excuse for making it look nearly identical to a round of S/V multiplayer. Gamefreak said they were making a cake, and they gave you a photograph of a cake.There should be a bigger starting roster with updated and stylized models, animations with a ton of personality, multiple stadiums with unique looks, lots of modes and customization for battles, local play, a short but fun single player campaign to get some goodies, more than 30 slots and 3 team setups, and a hype as fuck announcer yelling about how awesome that super effective one shot was. We should be creaming our pants right now and fist pumping about how we're so back. Instead we're looking fondly back at an N64 game from 2001.
>>59163825and these guys...are they in the room with us right now?
>>59164158this is what ilca can do without game freak and TPC sabotaging them btw
>>59164186Both flopped btw
>>59163924LGPEIt's a shit game of course, like all the Switch games, but it's by far the best looking one of the bunch
>>59163902>Your eyes can't even read 60 frames per secondSounds like a personal skill issue to me
>>59163945Pokemon not only has bigness on its side, but it's the most "multimedia" of any multi media franchise. Gamefreak can put out shovelware after shovelware, and it doesnt matter because merch is still killing it, TCG artists are salvaging nu-mon designs for cards, and Go added another feature from one of the good games.
>>59164230loooolllll
>>59164190because with other IPs you actually have to try
>>59164190Heard the One Piece game has very generic gameplay, which is a shame because One Piece could make for a great, unique JRPG and now it probably won't get the chance since Odyssey underperformed.
>>59163964There was a brief time in Japan where Yokai Watch overtook Pokemon in popularity in the 2010s around when BW released. That combined with the non-nip audience shitting on Masuda’s ‘magnum opus’ was probably the point where he stopped giving a fuck. I remembered at the time thinking it was fine but he was genuinely delusional if he thought that was the best Pokemon game ever made (especially after people went back to the Gen 4 games)
>>59164173>hype as fuck announcer yelling about how awesome that super effective one shot wasI miss it >But what about vgc commentary Just make an option to turn it off
Champions is one of their most Soulless products they've put out in a while, some fucking Battle Simulator Hub this shit turned out to be, can't believe I was slightly hyped for this
>>59163845SD Gundam Eternal is a free mobile game and has more content than Crossrays, a $60 game.Pokefags are always behind the times
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Pokopia is the only good one because its switch 2 exclusive. Everything else is a shitshow because its on the cursed switch 1. Switch 1 is a cursed console for pokemon.
>>59163902>Performance doesn't matter if I don't need to do just framesIt's not the end of the world but this is just disingenuous. May as well have never moved on from sprites (and I'd agree)
>>59163845>smeargle fan>is a retardMany such cases
>>59164105>The buildings do look pretty ass, but apart from that ZA looks perfectly fineThe buildings are the most egregious example but the environment all around looks lazily designed. The intractable objects are a total eyesore, for ex
>>59165168They should have designed Champions with Switch 2 in mind first if its supposed to be the Competitive hub for the future, makes it seems like their claim was bs
>>59165168>Pokopia is the only good one because its switch 2 exclusive.It has nothing to do with that, it's good because Koei Tecmo made it and GF was just tardwrangled along for the ride.
>>59163825literally what does this particular game have going for it other than its presentationif you don't care about graphics go to showdown, it has the champions meta any ways
>>59165242>>59165168Is the Switch 1 holding it back more than the phone version?
>>59165300Neither, it's TPCi
>>59163902>Your eyes can't even read 60 frames per secondThe brain process information at about 13-70 milliseconds after it sees it, at the fastest processing speed it can in fact process beyond 60 FPS, but at the worst it can barely process more than 15 FPS. If you can't tell the difference, you might be on the low end of processing speed.
>>59163825Champions gets a pass because it’s mobile slop. Gens 8-10 look trash. Except let’s go Pikachu and Eevee. Those have the best art direction to date for home console Pokemon games
>>59165457there are mobile games that look infinitely better while having way more going on in the game engineyou don't even have to look at games outside of Pokemon to see the other mobile spinoffs mogging this one
>>59165457Phone games are capable of looking good/great, this is just these faggots being lazy with Champions, hell the models and animations are all from SwSh/SV (some of the animations in Champions look worse than than they did in SwSh)
>>59163825I didn't play those games. I came from Showdown and just expected a somewhat functional and aesthetically pleasing battle simulator. Showdown honestly looks better.
>>59163825The game will forever have shitty graphics. Whilst the other games will evolve with time
>>59163845There are hundreds of free to play games with infinitely better graphics and more content. The most valuable franchise in the entire world can afford to make a better product
>>59165469I love how some people we're losing their minds over Champions Hyper Beam animation on social media when its practically the same one from Sword and Shield lolhttps://youtu.be/OEqEoJARlaE?si=pjlcCkkJ50o76U8uhttps://youtu.be/mxAFANJOYNA?si=pB3Mq8fqoZzegint
>>59163845ZA+MD is $100 and has significantly less content than a lot of f2p games.
>>59165466>>59165469Stfu. Pokemon is a the god tier IP that can do no wrong. You enjoy your Chinese bootleg games
>>59163825The Switch games all have really good models though? The fuck are you talking about? This is the one bad one.
>>59165300Phones have been running the RE engine resident evil games for years while the Switch had to cope with cloud versions. You tell me
