Come here for talk about all things Pokémon Mystery Dungeon.Previous thread: https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/thread/59086730/ >>59086730Romhacks Overview/Reviews: https://rentry.org/pmdglphPMD Fan Fiction Archive: https://rentry.org/pmdg-ffarchivePMD Guides: https://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5uExplorers of Sky Romhacking Guide: https://rentry.org/skytempleguideEverything about the Clover Guild: https://cloverguild.com/Drawing Board: https://magma.com/d/deKkksDwx4Mobile Drawing Board: https://magma.com/d/FU2Na24WYRDrawing Request: https://rentry.org/DrawReqPublicQuestions:>What is the worst looking official PMD sprite or portrait? Have any made you avoid using a Pokemon you normally like?>Has stepping on a trap ever accidently helped you in a dungeon? If never, what trap has ruined your runs the most?>Most preferred gimmick in PMD hacks? (puzzles, gameplay style, etc.) >If the Kecleon merchants are so strong, why don't they just save the world themselves?Recap of the previous thread:>Cachopo-anon joins the guild with their first story, A Bull-Headed Start (https://rentry.org/CloverCachopo1)>Vaporeanon and Glaceon-anon posted two stories (https://rentry.co/gs-above/) (https://rentry.co/gs-below/)>Pancham-anon finished their first story (https://rentry.org/6pwfwuez)>A Real Human published their second story (https://rentry.org/realpmdstory2)>A PMD romhack was made by an anon in the thread, PMD Desert Bus (https://drive.google.com/file/d/12YVU2x5VH9AywUT6Fn2oyMonIzwDSxrm/view)>An anon posted 2 new stories, Delta Dawn 1 & 2 (https://rentry.org/cg-deltadawn) (https://rentry.org/cg-deltadawn2)>New story by Growlithe-anon, Darkest Memoir (https://rentry.org/DarkestMemoir)>Discussion on the many stories published, art, and team choices
>>59164484>What is the worst looking official PMD sprite or portrait? Have any made you avoid using a Pokemon you normally like?Marshtomp's sprites are so short that they make me want to delay evolution in rescue team until I can jump straight to Swampert.>Has stepping on a trap ever accidently helped you in a dungeon? If never, what trap has ruined your runs the most?Pitfall traps are just stairs if you have the right atitude (and you have trap seer or google specs).>Most preferred gimmick in PMD hacks? (puzzles, gameplay style, etc.)I enjoy needing to work alongside your teamates to take down the enemies and also having access to secondary terrain traversal. The dungeons are the only gameplay aspect I really care about, so any sort of gimmicky puzzle tends to detract from the experience for me.>If the Kecleon merchants are so strong, why don't they just save the world themselves?Because then there wouldn't be heroes to sell wares to. Think of the business!
>>59164484>>What is the worst looking official PMD sprite or portrait? Have any made you avoid using a Pokemon you normally like? not so much avoid but i don't much like glameow's for some reason. feels squished>>Has stepping on a trap ever accidently helped you in a dungeon? If never, what trap has ruined your runs the most? pokemon traps sometimes help with recruiting. i don't actively seek them out so i guess it's an accident when they happen>>Most preferred gimmick in PMD hacks? (puzzles, gameplay style, etc.)i don't play many hacks so i can't answer this question >>If the Kecleon merchants are so strong, why don't they just save the world themselves?the pursuit of money doesn't usually lead to charity
>>59164484>Has stepping on a trap ever accidently helped you in a dungeon? If never, what trap has ruined your runs the most?I just did Meteor Cave in Rescue Team DX and I purposely detonated an explosive trap to get a few of the fake Deoxys out of my way without getting cucked by Pressure. The apple traps and the grudge traps are evil
>he evolves his starting duo
>>59165967I like doing it as the final thing in a playthrough as a way to cement how long the two spent together and how far they have come.
All pokemon aspire to evolve into their strongest form.
My partner and I aspire to stay in our cutest and cuddliest forms for as long as possible. Evolving into big ugly oafs would do our relationship no good.
The big brain move is to evolve only one of them.
>>59166079>entire relationship is based off looks ngmi
>>59166432I used to do this before I swapped my ideal duo over to a different pairing.
>>59166505Of course it isn't silly, his personality is obviously an exact match for mine and we love many of the same things (like our favorite spinda orders, favorite spots on the beach, favorite cuddling positions...). Perhaps if we were more adventurous, stronger forms would help with that (and help us protect each other), but we are content to live a peaceful life.
>starter duo starts fully evolved>no more concerns about losing their soul on evolution>hilarity ensues as you funny scenes like a feraligatr shitting its pants against a drowzeethe best solution?
Here's some Clover Guild lost media! A short story I wrote for Vulpix-anon based on the art he made (on the left!) when I wanted to practice combat before writing Black & White. Pretty quick and it's a bit of my older writing style but I hope the Guild will enjoy it nonetheless!>https://rentry.org/rsczt5k9
>>59166735>Open the story>"Two Pokèmon, a Vulpix and a Shinx">Close the story
>>59167224>Anon who can't read a 4chan post tries to read a fanfiction
>Open story>"Two pokemon, a Binacle and a Morelull">
>>59167297Some mons were just born to be NPCs man
>>59167297>open story>"Two pokemon, a Piguson and Vandash">
>Open the story>"Two Pokemon, both boys, kiss">
>open story>shit my pants
>>59167334V would love mystery dungeon. He'd play it with griffon and shadow as his starters.
If I had any major wish for a new pmd game I would want more post game dungeons with little self contained adventures like Sky Peak and Aegis Cave. Saving the world is cool and all, but I love a good treasure hunt
>>59168755This would be awesome, i can't help but think of all the cute stories we could have of treasure hunting, exploring unknown places or even visiting a legendary pokemon just to see if they are real.
>>59168755Dear god make it like Rescue team and not like Sky Peak and Aegis Cave.
>>59168881>rescue team post game>hello, please go to this dungeon because reason>get to boss room>im mad at you for some reason>joins your team for some reasonPokedex filler dungeons
>>59168893>Sky Peak>You go trough 10 beach caves as your tour guide keeps bumping into randies while you just stand there>NEW CONTENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>Aegis CaveDo I need to say anything?
>>59168912If you didn’t enjoy your mandated NPC interactions you have no soul. Yes, I want to see Heracross make a friend. Yes, I want to see Sneasel learn to accept help from others. Yes, I want to re-establish base camps in untamed territory. If you want to participate in a dungeon with no interruptions that’s fine. As for Aegis Cave, the random drops for the stones sucked but it was an ancient ruin with Regis in it and you are racing a world renowned treasure hunting team. It is cool
>>59168928Aegis Cave being conceptually cool doesn’t justify the agony it puts players through
>>59170061soul BLAST
>>59170152DX will never be soul, cope zoomer
can a rtdx boy and an eos girl really be together...
>>59166735This was neat. It's nice to see Nick and Amelia as the stars of a story, they don't seem to have much despite being Clover OGs
>>59171239>can a [...] boy and an [...] girl really be together?no. boys belong with boys and girls with girls.
>>59171280
>>59171280this, i play sky playing vulpix with my loving eevee partner. both male, of course
>>59171426>Both female exclusive options.>Bothe female when chosen as a partner.
>>59171517As far a I know, those game never used pronouns and always used the male variant of the tail markings for Eevee.
>>59171539>>59171539The Eevee gender diferent was added in Let's Go Eevee.Explorers shows the gender of your pokemon
>>59171517while this is technically and objectively true, they were MALE in my mind
>>59168755Personally I'd want more special episodes, I think PMD's writing is at its best in those since they can all be more unique since they don't focus on the blank slate protag, and they allow for more carefully structured balancing even if Chunsoft completely fucked up there with Team Charm's episode. Honestly I wouldn't mind a Dragon Quest 4 or a Livealive-style anthology game where you swap casts every chapter, though it'd probably never happen since the self-insert hero is too integral to the series at this point.
>>59171618kill yourself, homo
>>59171809>team charmI don't know what they were thinking having most of their movesets pick randomly from the levelup table. You can very realistically get a Lopunny with Baton Pass/Pound/Splash/Foresight. The fuck are you gonna do with this moveset?
>>59172385The Team Charm episode just feels the most lazy in general, by far the most forgettable one for me. I also think their theme is one of the worst songs in the game, which stands out since some of the other special episode songs are some of my favorites.
>>59167224>>59167297>>59167334Fine, I give up. (You) all win.
>>59173337Yep I'm so mindbroken I didn't even link the shitpost.>https://rentry.co/TwoPokemon
>>59173346>bros played gay chicken so hard they fucking diedits so peak
>>59173337Honestly, I rather liked Finnigan. Good job at making a (relatively) sympathetic character in a relatively short word count.
>>59168467The most terrifying words in the pokemon language are: I'm an absol and I'm here to help.
>>59173656>does nothing in RT>leaveswhat was the point of Absol?
>>59174198Hype moments and aura
>>59174198Maybe so that in the 4 second cutscene where you throw hands with Team ACT, your team can go 1 to 1 against the other.
>>59173337Justice for Finnegan
>>59173346What's the worst pokemon to be stuck as? The klink line? Shedinja?
>>59174612Luvdisc
>>59173337Let Finnegan live
>>59174626Feebas
>>59175530At least you have the chance of evolving as a feebas
>>59174612Slugma>Literal slug with no limbs, has to slowly crawl everywhere>A crawling fire hazard, probably banned from getting close to many places>Can't sleep and has to keep moving 24/7 or else body cools down and falls apart>Evolution doesn't solve any of this, just adds a brittle shell
>>59175675_______________slugma ballsmakes all the downsides worth it desu
>>59175675>wandering vagabond slugma who's grateful for anybody to travel with and talk to at his pace and complain to about his horrible existenceKind of a vibe
>>59174612A smallmon quadruped with a huge dick.
What's the best game to start with? Slight preference towards better graphics, and medium preference towards not being overly punishing for someone not great at roguelikes.
>>59175740>Welcome to Slugma in the Morning, good Slugma to you. Today, part 8 of our series on the terrible pain I feel every day.
>>59175877Explorers is widely considered the best game in the series. I started with Red Rescue Team on GBA and became obsessed. Explorers reinforced it. If you are used to playing modern pokemon then you could probably start with Rescue Team DX.
>>59175877Games really aren't all that hard, sometimes you will get screwed by rng but it isnt as malicious as other rougelikes. Game with the best graphics is Rescue Team DX, which is an updated version of the first game. Explorers of Sky is considered the best in series, its pixel graphics but is still nice to look at. Super is fun but has some questionable story descisions. Gates to Infinity is the black sheep of the series.
>>59175675How many fire types are not allowed to enter Capim?
>>59175675If you have an external heat source to keep you warm you should be able to sleep though. That's probably why it's constantly searching for warm places
>>59176690Capim is most likely pretty humid, so fires wouldn't start that quickly. Probably. >>59175877PMD is literally baby's first traditional roguelike, you'll be fine. Just don't start with Super since that is probably the hardest one and you'll miss all of its fanservice references anyway.
>>59177470>>59176690Correct!
BumPMD
>>59180832Careful there, the watermark is not visible enough.
>>59180327I wish there was more interviews that went into detail on what prompted the devs to pick whatever mons for certain NPC roles. I wonder how many chunsoft devs just sneak in their favorites, I know some starters only got into Sky because they were liked by the devs.
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>>59181284I believe in the Drifblimdev at Chunsoft.
>>59182991YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE, YOU OVERGROWN FURRET
>>59182739I could believe Driftblim being that OP was an accidentBut who the fuck is the madman at chunsoft that decided Present should randomly do 120 damage in Rescue Team?
>>59181284I've wondered this too. It'd be interesting to learn that.
>>59175826Oh, just like the game
>no way fag>>59184354I dunno but I bet he was (rightfully) pissed Delibird didn't get the mailman job.
>>59184354Possibly a shortcut for making moves with variable base power. Magnitude is similar in that regard, but even more bizare in that the set damage gets a 1.4 multiplier if you're a ground type.
>>59181284Tomie definitely likes Wigglytuff
Completed drawingboard number 61 (Anniv. Board #3)!!Very cute drawings altogether!We're back with a blank drawboard this time!join and draw or chat!!!!!!!!!https://magma.com/d/xFToCJNbNlhttps://magma.com/d/xFToCJNbNlhttps://magma.com/d/xFToCJNbNl
>>59186007Shit, which guide was this? I have a old explorers of sky guide, I wonder if there's any dev interviews in that that I never looked at as a kid.
>>59187075It was a book that came with preorders of Time/Darkness. I managed to get one back in the day because they had a spare. Even has confirmation about girlmons having higher evade nothing about accuracy though
I have a new flash fic for you all, called "The Light of My Eyes".Technically, it's not new. I wrote this more than a year ago and decided not to publish it, but now I changed my mind after chatting with some other anons. I edited it today, and Vaporeanon provided beta reading (thanks for the help), so I think it's ready to go.This basically acts as an epilogue to Part 1 of "Learning to Fly", and takes place on the morning after Chapter 12. It also gives an in-universe explanation for Booker's new eye design (originally, they looked like normal Ribombee eyes, but I modified them last year to make him look a bit more unique).Speaking of "Learning to Fly", this might be a good time to announce that I'm probably not going to write Part 2 of that story. I had plans and I even began writing, but it was giving me too much trouble, and it was shaping up to be a really time-consuming project, so I think it's best to not continue. Part 1 is complete, so at least the story has reached a decent stopping point. I apologize to anyone who was looking forward to the next part of Booker's quest. At some point, I'll write down a quick summary of my concepts for Part 2, so people can see what would have happened in the second half of the story.With that out of the way, here is "The Light of My Eyes". I hope you enjoy reading it.>https://rentry.org/RibombeeEyes>https://rentry.org/RibombeeHomepage#the-light-of-my-eyes
>>59188485I hope you reconsider at some point in the future. Your work is always great to read and it'd be a shame to take that potential and reduce it to just a few bullet points.
>>59188485Cute short story, nice job. Twist is it wasn't aura, Booker just got some very tiny color contacts.
>>59188815How do we feel about freckles on OCs with fur. I think it's cute
>>59189598In my honest opinion, I totally agree, I love freckles
So why is the sentry hole a thing, anyways?
>>59190952one of the devs had a thing for paw and tried to make a mini game out of it
>>59190952Chunsoft wanted to make a minigame based around footprints, since they're mostly useless in the mainline games.
>>59190991bless that dev
>>59190952so some lucky bastard gets to look at erotic featureless crotches all day
>>59190952i always make quadrupeds use their back paws to get entry. in reality they arent much different from the forward paws, butt they make for a much better view.im really glad a pawfag was in the dev team, i dont think i'd like paws nearly as much as i do now without them.
>>59185312It still seems pretty odd, especially since I think you can run into Delibird in one of the main story dungeons in RT. Does Present use some of the same set damage values Magnitude does?
>>59194932not shown: resetting the game to not get riolu
>>59186183>Look at the last and latest magma>Kino artWonderful stuff, keep it up.
>>59195874thanks anonthe drawboards are one of my favorite things about the guild
any news on a new game or do I give up to become a lego Harry Potter content creator
>>59197714
>>59197714pokopia is confirmed a prequel to pmd and has scarfs and shit trust the plan
>a pokemon in a scarf is not a real OCYour response?
>>59198563If a scarf isn't enough what about lingerie?
>>59198580we may need to see evidence before deliberating
>>59198563You are entitled to your opinion, even when it is wrong.
>>59198563My OC has his genitals on his ref sheet.
>>59198580A Pokémon in lingerie must be absolutelygorgeus and heavenly on the eyes, especially if you have lots of straps, ribbons and lace.I probably wouldn't make that my OC though because that would just be "my barely disguised fetish" which is bad writing. Unless you give him a full body cloak with the lingerie underneath.
>>59199021This is a real thing and the first time I saw it it cracked me up because it was a standard conedick, nothing special or worth highlighting about it?
>>59199030very well off too, with cutting, sizing, and sewing all that fabric to fit a particular body shape
On a different note, how would you store your items as an explorer/rescue team member?Sling bag over one shoulder? I think this is the canon solution in EOS at least.2 sling bags, one over each shoulder to somewhat even out the weight for better balance?Or a backpack? This is the historical solution for explorers, but real explorers generally didn't fight a lot and backpacks are very cumbersome for fighting, speaking from experience. Also a backpack would make accessing items quickly in the heat of combat difficult so you should coupel it with a belt where you keep your important orbs, seeds and stuff to be easily accessible in a fight.
The closest real life equivalent to seeds, berries and orbs are grenades, which soldiers wear on belts or harnesses I think, not in bags or backpacks.
>>59199080>he doesn’t keep grenades in his backpackngmi
>>59199083You can't really easily access items from your backpack in the heat of combat.Soldiers use small grenade pouches on belts and chest rigs.So I guess if I wanted to ever draw or write a Mystery Dungeon OC, I would give him a chest rig with his orbs, seeds and berries and maybe a backpack for backup gear and stuff like apples.
A sling bag might be insecure if you're moving around a lot quickly, right? For bipeds, I think it would have to be paired with a belt anyway. I see saddlebags a lot for quadrupeds; pairing them with a harness sort of system makes sense.
more than half of the pokemon in the series can't quickly or realistically use a bag or sling to begin withstop overthinking and write
>>59199091>enemy uses flamethrower>seeds safely stowed on your chest get disintegratedPsychic chads don’t need to reach in their backpack to retrieve an item, they can just levitate it out with their mind
I am thinking if I should draw an OC.But I am also lazy as fuck and can't even decide which exact Pokémon I want to be, so...
>>59199105Good thing there are usually multiple pokemon in a rescue team
>>59199100Thinking leads to good ideas sometimes. Like the hoof-clamps on Booker’s Zebstrika. As long as you’re thinking productively about an aspect of the setting you care about and not just nitty nonsense you think the audience has to know.
>>591990743 member exploration team, first 2 members are most geared and prepped for fighting carry at most a satchel with water and food, and a belt with seeds, berries, and orbs. 3rd is likely a larger mon with lots of endurance, carries a big backpack for hoarding all the items the team needs and finds in the journey. he attempts to attack from a distance or not at all, sometimes hiding between the stronger 2 if mons sneak up behind the team.if you have to have only 2, have the larger (or stronger/more enduring one) carry a larger backpack, and the one more equipped for fighting go first and have just a belt and a sling.
>>59199398>wake up as a pokemon>relegated to a beast of burden cause your thicchow dreadful
>>59199470it would be ok i think. you wouldnt have to risk your life or get hurt a lot, and you'd have 2 pokemon who would fight hard to protect you. and i'm sure after expeditions they'd give you a fair reward for your hard and much appreciated work wink wink plus you'd get to be a big thicc pokemon like aggron or a mudsdale. sounds fine to me
>>59197714my parents told me they were getting a divorce while lego harry potter was on the tv
>>59199684should have given them love potions if you actually wanted them to stay together
>>59199696who gave this anon a truth orb
>>59199398>>59199512>porter that can be hired by various rescue teamsThank you for the fun OC/worldbuilding idea. This makes having a big four legged pokemon like avalugg, camerupt, etc more attractive for exploration
What happens if you use cheats to evolve earlier in psmd?
>obsessed
>>59175999why is gates hated?
>>59200055Pretty sure it just keeps you as the evo
>>59200132>why is gates hated?They cut the dex and gates has no postgame. The entirity of Gates is set on one cost rather than an entire world map. It's the smallest and shortest game in the series and you mostly just do the main story, one short post game mission and the single 99 floor dungeon (no LV 5 reset) and you are done.It's still a great game! Fuck da haters! It's just short and sweet.
>>59200132>miserable floor layouts with needless minor bends>swarms of sand attack/mud slap spammers that hit you on those bends>a herd of fuckin ugly bug bite/incinerate/pluck users are rushing from the monster house>destroyed reviver seed rates skyrocketed! Team Pokepals is ruined!>tiny dex is worse than "wtf no charizard" because it makes these problems much more prevalent
>>59200432the starter selection is awful within the limited amount they have, they don't even have all the unovan pokemon within the cut dex, and you can only do one mission a day to grind paradise with the slowest progression ever known to man for absolutely pitiful rewards
>>59200441>>59200442>t. CharizardDon't worry, you can be in Super Mystery Dungeon again.
>>59200442>the one time purrloin would have been good because unburden>not in the game>even in super it's worse than all the other unburden users
>>59198580>>59198590>>59199030Ilove making my Pokémon wear lingerie because I find it cute seeing them get all bashful, blushing and trying to hide their massive throbbing boners though the skimpy fabric of the lace panties.
Why are they wearing scarves all day, when I leave work I throw my uniform away immediately. You are a bootlicker if you use a scarf constantly
>>59200663So I can blow extra chunky dick salsa when they take the scarf off.
>>59200663I would wear a scarf all the time if it gave me stat boosts
>>59200663Unlike slacks and a polo, scarves are comfy. I would wear them in real life if I didn't live in hell.
>>59164484I found a Red Rescue Team romhack on Github that deletes all story and makes you brave through 10 fully randomised dungeons if you want a quick Mystery Dungeon adventure. YOu can play as any Pokémon you want, including Absol and Ninetales!!!Sadly, it's difficult as fuck and I encountered a Kyogre on floor 6 of my first dungeon when I was LV 4.May be interesting. https://github.com/jtjanecek/rogue-rescue-team
>>59200878>I found a Red Rescue Team romhack on Github that deletes all storyPerfect.
>>59164484Do you think Pokémon Mystery Dungeon would be easier solo without a partner?Because your Partner and team mates are usually really retarded. For example if you get into a monster room, on a solo run you can do the classic roguelike thing and imediately get back into the corridor and then fight them one on one or stun the front one to block off the corridor for the others and run, but with a partner you have to swap place with him and then he will instantly start fighting 5 guys all on his own instead of getting outta there. And in general your partner won't ever disengage from combat even when outmatched and outnumbered. And they kinda don't care about walking headfirst into traps unless IQ is high enough.It's a bit more like herding a pet and less like a partner. Would help a lot if I could issue them commands, such as "Go to this spot", "attack this enemy", "disengage" and such, like in Caves of Qud and some other Roguelikes, besides just autistically disabling and enabling their moves each turn to pick the attack they do.At least Super Mystery Dungeon let you shove your partners, so you can safely leave monster rooms like that.It's quite paradox to me because you would think two guys are twice as strong as just one guy but I think solo is actually easier and definitively a lot more chill, except for bosses.
>>59201093In my original playthrough of Red Rescue team when I was a child, I went to most dungeons solo when I got to the post game. It gave me more room to recruit pokemon if I wanted to and I wouldn’t have other teammates using my reviver seeds.
>>59201119I sometimes picked up fodder mons during dungeon runs to use as disposable pawns and then instantly delete after finishing the dungeons.It's cruel but it works.
>>59201126DX amplifies this by a ton. Having basically your own monster house as a team is one of the more interesting aspects of that game. Especially if you manage to recruit something with a roomwide affecting attack because they don’t need to worry about PP
>>59201185Would probably be fun having 8 Pokémon out, like running your own little Explorers guild, but in practice they would be a nightmare to herd and get them to NOT kill themselves.
>>59201093Bringin up moster houses as a reason against having a 2nd party member at all times is incredibly retarded given that you're giving up a numbers advantage for combat and PP management just to not be inconvenienced during the 5 or so times you'll find a monster house in the main story.You say that they should add the comands you mention, but aparently tggeling moves and using the tactics already present in the game is too much for you? I get that more specificity in the tactics we have would be welcome, and that I don't know the minutia behind the commands you mention, but do we need a "disengage" command when you can tell them to "Get Away From Here" and then "Wait There" once they're in a safe location?I get that runaway AI can be pretty retarded in PMD1 and 2, but they look in the direction they're about to excape once you exit the menu, so you can catch if they're about to goof and choose another tacticAbout the Moster House Choke, you can tell your teamates to Get Away From here instead of swaping place with your partner, once you've got a free square to retreat to, take it. You even back up to the next room and 2v1 enemies. Sure, there's 1 turn where you're open, but unless you get unlucky with spawn, you wont have that many enemies adgacent to you.Also you can just use one of the many orbs that neutralize large crouds of enemies.
>>59201185I hate how DX handles it because the Pokemon in the back keep getting killed by wild Pokemon and breaking off from the group. It’s a hassle to deal with that many Pokemon when I can only control my core team members.
>>59201226It's not just monster houses, though they are the biggest part.But your partner generally doesn't like to disengage from combat if outmatched but fights to the death and also doesn't like repositioning to fight one on one when outnumbered.But Partners also double your DPS and total HP for boss battles so maybe that's worth the hassle, it idk.And Eevee is the only partner that is smart enough to disengage at low HP, but instead of sticking to you, the boss, he will just headlessly run around with no regard for anything and probably get killed even more.In general, I kinda have issues with partners in roguelikes, but Pokémon seem especially dumb when it comes to this, even compared to Caves of Qud and DCSS allies.
>>59200878>deletes all storycool>also randomizes the game and makes it hardlame
>>59200663You’re required to wear a scarf at all times, or else you lose your status as a PMD protagonist
>>59201284Allies being retarded in DCSS isnt a huge deal since most of them are temporary or disposable. I've never tried a run with Hepliaklqana though.
>>59200096Gee Dewott, how come Spike Chunsoft lets you have two fox GFs?
>>59201433Your anscestor in DCSS respawns after a certain number of turns so you can literally use him as fodder to stall enemies while escaping.Meanwhile your partiner in PMD is your adorable friend who was the first person you met after being transported into the world and sticks with you through all hardships, so the exact opposite of disposable meat fodder.
>>59200663The scarves are magic, like hell I'd be taking that thing off if it gives me powers.
>>59201466I don't have a favourite scarf because I die so much I keep having to replace them.But the ones I use when I get a chance are Special Band, Power Band and Tight Belt with Trap Scarf being situationally useful.
>>59201481vulpix partner who is clumsy and weak and keeps passing out in dungeons and losing the cute scarfs you buy him
>>59200663>take off the pecha scarf uwu you're so cool>surely I'm not a salty outlaw thats trying to get you when you least expect itI'm on to your tricks
>>59202031But I need to keep my scarf on for FASHION!It makes me look more cute, even when I don't need it.
>>59201531it’s your own fault for not protecting him
>>59164484OwO Is this the Pokemon roleplaying general?Vap vappy vap I am a Vaporeon.Do you want to go "explore the mystery dungeon" with me? Just us two? Vappy vapWant to give me your hot creamy "reviver seed" into my "item slot". Vappy vapI can show you my " treasure".
>>59202570How's this instead? *whips out itemizer orb*
>>59200765>>59201466Come to think of it, do they work outside dungeons? Some of their powers would be extremely helpful in everyday life, like resisting hunger or walking through walls. Sounds overpowered though, so maybe it’s best if they only work in dungeons.
>>59202607>Some of their powers would be extremely helpful in everyday lifeSame shit with orbs. Walking into a building and cracking a petrification orb sounds like the easiest way to get away with literally anything
>>59202700>Trying to enjoy a nice day out>Local asshole decides to use a Sandy/Hail Orb
>>59200148can someone test out what happens if you start psmd as a mid evo? would be kino to play through the story like that
>>59202996I'm pretty sure you fully evolve for the parts of the story where you have to, devolving you back to your midstage. I posted >>59200148and the same thing should happen there, but i worded it poorly.
>>59202700I assume towns would have protection against orbs and whatever like boss room's have
>>59203039I just assume they naturally don't work outside of dungeons. And there's something special about boss rooms that disrupts their use.
>>59203022I was just thinking about what if just cheated to evo sooner. I wonder if the game would break or not. You were thinking of the harmony scarf temp evo though.
>>59201454Because Dewott's haromy scarf makes them part steel type& purple instead of evo
(Dewott is such an absolute chad)
>>59203673Gee Dewott, how come they let you have 4 swords?
>>59203702are you counting the arm blades?
>>59203708What else I'd be counting?
>>59203740I was just saying because they seemed decorative (even though that's obviously what you were talking about)
>>59201454one of them is just a random braixen that happened to be there already and the other is just my friend and partner (not a gf) because friendship is power or something like that
>>59202597Does the Itemizer orb actually murder the Pokémon or does it just warp them away like when you beat them the regular way?
>>59203953it probably just teleports them without that specific item (sorta like robbing them with a modified forced escape orb)
>>59203998But it also works on Pokémon who are not holding an item...
>>59204011the in universe logic is probably different from the in game logic though
>>59204011>>59204014What I meant is that in game there's a mechanic for enemy pokemon holding an item and they can drop it or you can steal it with a move, but that in universe the item you get from the orb is one they wouldn't normally drop by being defeated or by having it get stolen. The in game logic is probably just so you can get an item from any pokemon even if technically they aren't supposed to be holding an item. It's just supposed to make the orb better than defeating them or using a stealing move. I guess an in universe explanation could be that it's an item that's protected better than any others. Like maybe they somehow have a secret stash on their person or a secret bag for that one item.
is this sometimes friends do? or does this imply something else?
I just cheesed a boss in the Rogue rescue team romhack by throwing a diet ribbon at him, immobilising him and then setting him on fire and just waiting while he slowly burned to death as he couldn't move.Funny mystery dungeon moment. Diet Ribbon is actually a super neat item, just not when worn on yourself.
>just found out marowak dojo lets you download and fight other people's teamskem i'm imagining someone pulling up with starter/partner/dialga and just getting instagibbed by four drifblim
>>59204089only a thing non gf friends and partners do.
>>59204275Try not to shart all over a boss with a funny item chalenge. (Imposible difficulty).
>>59204306>starter/partner/dialgaBut that was my post game team (except Dialga was the leader)>>59204359The alternative would have been death because I was like LV 4 with no oran berries and that hack clearly wasn't playtested enough.
>>59204355before you reppied I noticed the hearts for the first time and now I look stupid
>>59204306that makes me wonder, what would be the absolute strongest team you can make in pmd? would it just be 4 drifblim or 4 smoochum or something like that?
>>59204815Would a perfect team even matter? You can max your stats if you really want to, and there aren't that many non lv reset, engame dungeons that are much of a challenge. Only Zero Isle North and Super's Destiny Tower come to mind, and as long as you just have mons that can hit with ranged moves, the ocasional team support and in the case of super, partners with line of sight moves who can assist during combat in corridors.Most chalenge dungeons already restrict you to only one party member, and the once that don't have less harsh restrictions overall. Like, no one's gonna meta game a team of 4 for Zero isle West when you can shove 2 pages of revs up your ass.
>>59204815Kecleon because he gets to act twice a turn and does an absolute boatload of damage like 500+ in one attack, no buffs or debuffs, even though he is unremarkable in the mainline series games.I think he could kill the Dialga at the end of the story in like 1 or 2 turns.
>>59205008Tell me you haven't recruited kecleon without telling me you haven't recruited kecleon
Exploring a Mystery Dungeon you stumble accross a full set of lingerie that is exactly sized and tailored for your body type.It increases your attack, defense, special attack and special defense by 50% and makes immune against poison, paralyze and burn.But it looks really embarrassing with lots of frills, ribbons, lace and straps and you need to wear all of it for the effects to work.You are sure Kecleon wouldn't pay a lot for this so selling wouldn't be worth it.What do you do?
>>59205188Hey partner, you wear this!
>>59205280That's cruel.
>>59205309Dressing up the partner is the opposite of cruel
>>59205365Well, at least it will increase the poor lil guys stats and make toxic spike traps more forgiving.
>>59205435Yeah, the stats...
>>59205450You are doing it just for the stats so your partner won't die on you all the time, right?
>>59205188I'd put it on anyway because I'm a zorua gigachad. Simply make some illusions and poof I'm wearing nothing at all.
>>59205760>Gets hit once ending the effects of IllusionUh oh!
>>59205769Good luck I'm behind 7 illusions of myself, I'm not even in the same room as you.
>>59205775>Random enemy Pokémon hits you with wood thorn for 1 damage from offscreen.>Illusions go poof>Your embarrassing little secret is revealed to everyone
>>59205188Find the original owner and return it for a finder's fee and possible future contracts. Of course a Kecleon wouldn't buy it for much, because what are the odds of finding a fitting customer? But that sort of tailoring is very clearly expensive and the type of Pokemon who could afford such a thing is one you would want to have in your favor.And they would probably have more items, too, fitted for a body type very close to yours.
>>59205784>everyoneThat’s why you only do solo missionsNo partner, no clients, nothingThe ferals can’t tell anyone your secret
>>59205784This can't be, I was supposed to be the main character...
>>59205787When you phrase it like that, it makes it sound like an exclusive item. Imagine that, some species get cool cloaks and hats, whereas yours gets is a provocative outfit.
>>59205798Explorers who brave trough dungeons alone are a rarity in canon, and tend to be the talk of the town. You're bringing unwanted atention to yourself.You better be dam sure when you put it on and off.
>>59205760>>59205775
>>59205188Wear it with pride!Just for da stats & immunities of course ;)
>>59205818giving the local solo explorer hero a friendly smack when you see him in the middle of town and with a sudden whoosh he's wearing stockings, panties, and a collar almost as pink as his blush
>>59206060That's just adorable! Prescious!
>>59205946Heya Dunceparce.
>>59205188You never said it has to be visible. Could just wear it under other clothing and nobody would know. Or find another Pokemon of your species and sell it to them if you don’t want to wear it.
>>59206175You sell it and get 2 poké plus a stick as a tip.
>>59206178There’s no way it’d sell for that cheap when it has all those effects.
>>59206182So you keep it and wear it then?
>>59206186I’m saying it’s worth more money. I’d haggle or find a better buyer.
>>59206211No one will give you a better price than 2 poké and a stick.
>>59205188I eat it.
>>59206220Based!
>>59206060>the new solo explorer passes by, a cocky eevee that has been absolutely smashing through all the work board requests>with all the survival instincts of a potato, you decide to sneak up behind him and give him a locker-room style slap on the ass>a distinctly non-eevee shriek erupts from a cloud of smoke, leaving nothing more than a zorua, wearing what can only be described as a risque sylveon cosplay, standing there completely dumbfounded>this is the third time this happened this week
>>59206282Geg!The price of living risky like that!
>>59205188>>59206060>>59206282too far
this is not fucking wholesome anymore :(
i think it should be me guys
>>59205188We're discussing this like it's an uber broken bonkers OP item, when it'd get replace by something like a mobile scarf the moment you find one.
>>59185312Ah lol, present also get a STAB multiplier to the set damage it deals
>>59207536This is a fucking warcrime.There'd be no natural way to get STAB present other than Metronome, right?
>>59207521Mobile Scarf just makes you starve to death in long dungeons, or even short dungeons if you don't stack up 10 big apples.I do not like it.
>>59208021Smeargle could sketch it, but if you're creating the prefect moveset for your smeargle, a move that does random set damage and may heal the opponent instead wouldn't be on your list.
lol I have no idea which teams/moves are overpowered or underpowered because I only ever use the guys I like and feel attached to like a lot of starter/partner/Dialga in EOS (They are the main characters after all and who you playin Treasure Town), Absol, Mawile, and a lot of Emboar + Virizion in GTI and Super.That's just howI enjoy my games.
>>59208024Well, just use the Movile Scarf movement for everything that doesn't cause belly depletion. The mobile scarf lets you both walk and attack trough corners. This means that, in coridor, you can use your entire movepool to hit an enemie that's at the corner of a turn or intersection, you can gain distance on those enemies by cutting corners, where they'd have to take the turns in two turns, and if you enter a wall and inmediately take off the movile scarf, it warps you somewhere else at the expense of a slight bit of belly.Admitidly, party members would get in the way when doing most of that stuff, but if you're going solo, it's really strong.
>>59208123Just what you'd expect. Strong room wide moves, broken status moves like spore/dark void, moves that boost you team's movement speed/your speed + some stat boosts and multy hit moves.
What are your thoughts on status moves like Sword Dance, Ninetales, Calm Mind , Iron defense, etc?I generally don't deem them worth a slot because you need to refresh them on each floor and dungeons tend to have 10 to 30 to 99 floors AND they disappear after stepping on a wonder tile to recover stat reductions from enemies.They are probably good for bossfights, but bossfights are maybe 5% of Mystery Dungeon and you can just abuse your items.
>>59208213>Ninetales*Nasty Plot Copy paste fail because I can't remember the english names
>>59208213When you're choosing what moves to use, you wan't acces to strong STAB options, good range, an overall good amount of PP and maybe some coverage if a particular type fucks you over.Those criteria you can cover with around 3 moves, maybe even 2. Having 4 offensive moves is redundant, and you'd rather have unique utility from a status move. In which case, those stat raising moves you mentioned are pretty good. You can use one each floor, and although you may end up running out of pp on them, by that time you'll likely have to use a max elixir sooner or later (Also, at least for Sky, those moves you mention have a good amount of PP, Nasty plot even has 20 PP, more than most strong moves. Swords dance is the only low one at 7)This is specially the case with defence drops in the games with move linking. You get to lower an enemies defence right as you strike them. Also, defence stat increases and decreases are about 3 times as potent as offence stat changes, and Screech quartes the the defence stat of a targer.
>>59186183They're raising the bar for PMD art in the magma. Redefining what it means to be kino. Join and see for yourself
>>59208213Minimize is a core part of what makes Drifblim so powerful. 27 (actually 54 because Unburden) uses of a move that lets you dodgetank like mad is extremely good.
>>59170061Why is Bulbasaur/Cyndaquil the best pairing?
>>59208817Are they really that good?
>>59208213I never use themI prefer unga bunga
>>59208126Didn’t know about the corner thing, that’s cool
>>59206709>>59206712I think it was very cute.
>>59208430But I'm a no skilled drawlet
>>59209930How can you get better if you first don't try to shit and cry all over the canvas a few hundred times?
>>59208123>I only ever use the guys I likeThe correct way to play
>>59208123Even if you don't use them, what pokemon and moves are strong should be apparent from just playing. You can tell from fighting Driflims in dungeons that both Drifflim and Omnious Wind are strong, without a need to give them a try.Though some options, like trained up Smeargle or Dark Void, you won't find in the enemies.
>>59208095Would the stab buff actually make the heal increase too, or is that always a set amount of healing?
>>59211407I think STAB only affects damage moves.Heal moves are perentage based with some healing 50%, some 100% and Present being 25%.
>>59212151>godkillerCharmanDUD kneels to SkittyLORDS
>>59208213I only find them somewhat useful in Lvl 1 dungeons.
>>59164484A comic befitting this thread.
>>59214802For it to fit the thread, It'd have to be 30-something y/o looser instead of a cute girl.
>>59214802You know that this is just fetish shit and not supposed to be funny or relatable because it's a sexy foid rather than a guy.
>>59214802giwtwm
>>59214802Life as a human is so trash that even being a magikarp would be better. Because at least they die more often than i will.
>>59210176watching anons improve at art over time is one of the reasons clover guild was worth it
>>59164484I've been feeling the desire to play PMD again after a decade or so; can't remember a thing about it. Should i play the games "chronologically" or something you guys recommend for my "first time"?
>>59215788If you're going to play trough all the games, I recomend you start with either Rescue Team or Explorers of Sky (there's no real reason to play Time or Darkness over Sky). Which one of the two? Up to you. Rescue Team's main story is the shortest, but in return, there are plenty of postgame quests tied to getting all of the legendaries in the game. The main story of Sky is longer, and the postgame, as much as I'm torn on its overall quality and Sky Aditions, it's also lenghty.Then I would recomend you pick gates. The story is the strongest, the gameplay is the weakest, with plenty of anoying things, like the slow text speed, the anoying dungeon generation and the slow progress of the paradise.Lastly Super, mostly because of the numerous cameos from characters in prior games you'll find in side missions. It does get critiziced here plenty, but I find its gameplay plenty engaging, and the story has some good points. The postgame is also pretty lengthy if you ish to 100% itAs for Red/Blue Rescue Team vs DX, though the story is the same, the gameplay is the most diferent between games. In my opinion you should first pick and later on loop around to the second one. (Red and Blue Rescue Team are equivalent. I'd choose Blue for the extra buttons and minor use of the top screen)As for gameplay: Red Blue Rescue Team and Explorers play similar, with Rescue Team feeling more rudimentary. DX and Super also play similary, what encapsulates it most for me is the existance of wands. And Gates is sort of in between, mut leaning more towards Explorers in terms of gameplay and systems.Overview:First play Sky. If you like the gameplay system, follow it with Blue Rescue Team, But if you think you'd preffer something more modern, try DX. You could then continue with Gates, but if you don't really care about the cameos on Super, I'd consider that one fist. Continue then with Super/Gates, and lastly, loop around to the version of Rescue Team you didn't play.
does explorers of sky have any online features that people are still using?
>>59216107>does explorers of sky have any online featuresYes>that people are still using?NoIt's a 20 year old DS game.Nintendo doesn't care about old games.
>>59216107I think all of the features can just be used/generated by wonder codes instead. If you post a rescue code here you will probably get some help, or just cheat and use one of the generators if you want
>>59216115>If you post a rescue code here you will probably get some helpThat's actually a really fun idea for when I decide to play the games again.And in return I could even do rescue missions for other people.
Is there anything as unsettling as this?
>>59216361I also want to help frens in their dungeons.
>>59216503how does this happen?
>>59216965If I remember properly, it doesn't - that's an unused fail state message.
>>59216965debug message that happens if the party leader gets recruited to the partyif he gets rejected on the offer it says something along the lines of <leader> left without making any friendsobviously these can't happen in normal play
>>59216503>was transformed into a friend
>>59216988>riolu
>>59216988Riolu is my best friendI love my friend Riolu
>>59164484I just played Rogue Rescue Team and had to make it through a dungeon full of Ghost Pokémon using Spite and walking through walls and Shedinja with suspiciously high attack damage with no Max Elixirs in sight, alongside my retarded partner.I only made it through with sheer luck and determination.
>>59218512cool story bro
>kiyo can't read english>convince him to sit in a big cardboard boxWhat would you write on the outside of the box?
>>59219640>"Free head pats pls :3">"Will play music for food (bring instrument)">"Pls adopt me, I'm a cute baby girl :3"
>>59219640>Chiller
>>59219640>idiot asshole fortress
>>59219640Fort Firerock
>>59219640>blue rocket
>>59219640>sissy boys only
>>59219640>kiyo's house
>>59219640Lucky bastard who came up with that OC must have a massive stash of fan art.I wonder who created this guy and how he feels about his OC being so beloved.
>>59219640I guess that’s one way to speed the thread towards bump limit
>>59220432that wouldnt make any sense to be written on a box with a gay pix in it
>>59220333I believe the character has the second most art of any Clover Guild character, behind Booker. Not sure why that is.
>>59220636>Not sure why that is.The anon who made the character draws a lot, and people like to draw their own characters. Same thing with Kiyo, around half of the art of him on the booru is by the anon who made him
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