>Battle Revolution>Multiple arena maps to battle in>Announcer from the anime>Character Customization has dozens of outfits and multiple different body types to pick from and allows you to even customize things like your opening/losing lines>Single player content has a bunch of different cups and a fun final battle that actually is difficult>Can keep the Pokémon you obtain in this game forever as cool event mons>Custom rulesets for friendsCompare this to Champions>One arena map online>No voice acting>Character customization is one cookie cutter body type with less clothing options than mainline games and Battle passes with one outfit of a gender you can’t choose>No single player content outside of tutorial you mash A through>No custom rulesets>Pokemon you recruit can be SHINY but not sent to HOME, cucking you eternally>Literally no reward for getting to Master Ball because ribbons don’t exist in the game>Multitude of glitches>30fpsBattle Revolution mogs the ever living fuck out of Champions, it was from a different time where they experimented and did cool shit and the games were soulful DS ones. Champions is ultra corpo slop perfectly fitting the cynical money hungry era of today’s Pokemon Company.>B…but its free!Who cares? There’s nothing of subtance to it.
>autistic shitbag continues to disingenuously compare a full price home console paid battle sim with a free-to-play multiplayer-only battle simAmazing that. A game they expected retarded fuckers to beg mummy to buy has more "content" for the single player child than a multiplayer-only battle sim any retarded mong with a phone can access. Almost as if they envisioned two ENTIRELY different markets and demographics for it while autistic shitbags ignore silly things like "demographic a game is intended for" to squeal they don't treat asutistic shitbag adults the way they treated autsitc shitbag kids in her childhood 20 years ago.
>>59166288>Who cares? Me since I actually play the games instead of larping about playing them on /vp/
>>59166288You're comparing apples to oranges guy. Champions exist to be the new place for VGC and that is all. You're comparing a game with singleplayer content to a game that's only concerned with multiplayer.>B...but its free!Yeah? Freenium games are a lot different than normal ones.The only flaw you listed is glitches.
I'm not exactly surprised that a free to play game has no single player content, but it is a shame and a big missed opportunity. Even if the single player was paid DLC, the game would be better and more appealing for having it in some form. Also, no excuse for the customization not being as good as PBR's.
>>59166309>>59166349>>59166364>>59166385>It’s multiplayer only so that means it can be inferior to Battle Revolution in terms of maps, customization, and extras. It’s OK that it’s freemium sloppa!The absolute state of this shit guzzling fanbase wew lads
>>59166409Is this how every conversation on /vp/ needs to go?>you don't automatically agree with me so heckin eat shitI don't even own Champions nigger. I said it needs to do something about the glitches. Battle Revolution isn't even that liked, people prefer the older Stadium games.
>>59166288It's a sorry state of affairs when people are unironically pointing to fucking Battle Revolution as an example of a better game. Even worse when they're correct in doing so.
>>59166418It being concerned with multiplayer actually strengthens my point. If they made it more in line with Battle Revolutions extras and customization, people would shell out way more money. 2 months for the 2 gendered clothing options from ZA being the only added in customization is absurd. At the very least the multiple body types should be a thing.
>>59166288>Champions is ultra corpo slop perfectly fitting the cynical money hungry era of today’s Pokemon Company.>>B…but its free!>Who cares? There’s nothing of subtance to it.>>59166427>If they made it more in line with Battle Revolutions extras and customization, people would shell out way more money.Do you not realize the contradictions you're making? You're calling it corpo slop made only for money AND saying they should improve it to make more money. But "it's free" is a perfectly valid answer to it not having much to the game besides online matches AND not having much to spend on. It's free! That's the point! Yes, BR has more content, but BR isn't free! Being free is the whole point of Champions. It's not free because they want you to spend a tons on micro transactions - you just said yourself there's not much to spend money on and that they "should" add more customization to the game to make more money. But the goal of Champions isn't to sell customization options. The goal of Champions is to be a central point for all online battles, regardless of which game you acquire your Pokemon from. It can't work like BR because it's not trying to be. The goal of BR wasn't online play (gen 4 games already had online), it was to play in 3D (something which modern Pokemon games already do). Champions exist so that someone who only bought Scarlet can play with someone who only plays GO, or that someone who buys all the games can play with someone who hasn't bought a single one. Not that BR couldn't do this - its online was made obsolete as soon as Black and White came out.
>>59166288Champions sucks, but you're talking to Pokemon fans who have been eating garbage for breakfast for the past decade.
I'm personally convinced these are genuine paid-shills or bots that just swarm threads via keywords across the site relating to Champions. Other theeads not directly addressing the fame in the op that mention it later in the thread never get almost any champions shills in comparisonSame 'ol cuckchan vidya boards controlled by corporations like with marketing campaign spam and one-liner replies out of a script that make zero sense half the time
>>59166514How do you expect this free game to survive with no one spending money on it? If it’s going to go full multiplayer it should have more to spend on
>>59166349Ew, why would I pretend to play nu-pokemon?
>>59166689How about they just make it good enough to be worth a price tag? I'd gladly pay for Stadium 3, if it actually lives up to expectations. F2P games are fucking cancer and nothing but an excuse to charge you for shit that would be available for free in a real game.
>>59166514>The goal of Champions is to be a central point for all online battles, regardless of which game you acquire your Pokemon from....unless you want to play 6v6 Singles...or use Z-Moves/Tera/ D/GMaxing...or use some of the most recent Megas that most people would logically want to try out with traditional gameplay...or use any of the ~800 mons they didn't include...or use any of the items they didn't include...or play Triples/Rotation BattlesIt's a Pokemon game that focuses on battles but excludes most of what a regular person would want out of a battle sim, to instead hyper-focus on hardcore VGC autists (who aren't even happy with this pile of shit kek). This is the exact opposite of how successful/competent F2P games are run.
>>59166288>B…but its free!Yeah and Battle Revolution was a $50 wii game that required a DS with a gen 4 game to play
>>59166714You'd be the only one. As Anon above mentioned, the main draw of Stadium/colo/gale/pbr was 3D pokémon battling. The base games do that as standard these days, kids wouldn't be impressed with "stadium 3, as envisioned by a man who is three times the age of the games' PEGI rating", given all you want is literally stadium remade with all the pogeymans. The thing's an excuse to not run VGC on cart for more than three seasons, it'll also likely be replaced as VGC host when WW drops and the new gimmick is exclusive to the games until Legends: Galar releases and they once again push VGC to Champions, to mix'n'match the metas until Gen 11 and the dance begins again. And it doesn't need to be a paid console title to do that.
>>59166739It wasn't required. The game sucks with rentals sure, but you can still play it.
>>59166743>kids wouldn't be impressed with "stadium 3, as envisioned by a man who is three times the age of the games' PEGI rating"Nobody is impressed by the horrendous nuGen games either and those still sell millions because of the brand alone. Stadium isn't good just because it's in 3D, it's because of the excellent animations and camera that help make the battles feel much more alive. Mainline 3D games look like shit because you just have two lifeless plastic-looking models facing each other and slightly jumping up and down when they use moves. A dedicaded battle sim game can afford to spend time on such visuals since they're not crafting a whole region on top if it all.
>>59166689>How do you expect this free game to survive with no one spending money on it?It doesn't have to make much money of its own because it's a game made to be a central point between other Pokemon games. Similar to how most people don't pay shit for Home. The devs care because it's a service that you use with other games and you are paying for those other games. Home, and now Champions, is profitable because it makes people want to buy their other games more. Remember $20 for FRLG; the first question people had was "can it connect to Home?" and yes, it can. Then the second question everyone had was "Does it have online play?" and no, it doesn't - but your mons from FRLG can be sent to Home for free and then to Champions for free. Legends Arceus also didn't have online, and while Legends Z-A and LGPE have online, it's not the traditional battle system, but they all connect to Home and Champions.The monetization in Champions, for what little exists, will be mainly for people who don't play any of the console games or even GO.>>59166714If it had a price tag, that'd defeat the whole purpose! The main games already have a price tag! The whole point is that it's free, so everyone can have it! If you only have Scarlet, you can already play with other people who have Scarlet and Violet, but you can't play with your friend who only has Legends Z-A. Since Champions is free, you can both bring your Pokemon from your respective games and fight each other. But if the game had a price tag, what would be the point of buying this third game to play together, instead of just having your friend buy Scarlet or Violet, or you buying Legends Z-A? It's like saying "Home should have a price tag and offer more content than just a bank and trading". The games already have a bank and trading by default, Home is just a free service to link all the games together so you can bank and trade outside of the ecosystem of the specific Pokemon game you're playing.
Hoo boy, where to start with this one:A) retard 7 year olds are impressed. mainly because retard 7 year olds never have a full, diverse gaming knowledge or access to multiple systems the way adults do, so don't have a basis to judge the colourful cartoony monsters, that get exposed to them as part of a multilayered marketing campaign backed by a franchise assisting the games. B) the fact you actually think I'm younger than you, thus apt to believe random bullshit spewed about a 20 year old game I'd already seen streams of 20 years ago showing how disingenuously wrong you're being's hilarious. Thing was made for cheap and got a reception equivalent to the amount of money Ishi put in. C) Since moving to Switch the textures of the things in each game have been changed and tailored to the presentation's aims, eliminating the "plastic-looking effect of the 3DS days. You that seriously poor, you couldn't even afford a laptop strong enough to run yuzu and steal anything on Switch? D) And the most important point: They didn't want to waste money making that kind of release, just for autistic retard shitbags such as yourself, that's not a direction to take to make money. Unironically, releasing a free-to-play competitive app IS the way. VGC niggers who gen their shit can instead play for free and maybe throw money in, hardcore casuals (better than the braindeads, but not as autistic as to go Pro) will pay and Game Freak get Home subs from the ones who aren't massive giant faggots. Everybody's happy, everyone's getting paid, unlike if they released a 90's-era battle sim game for a 2026 audience.
>>59166790>People don’t pay for HOMEOh so you’re retarded. People aren’t paying for HOME? Really think about what you just said…transferring is literally the most tauted feature of Pokemon, milliona upon millions of people have HOME subs
>>59166737>This is the exact opposite of how successful/competent F2P games are run.Your mistake is believing that giving the customer what they want is how successful F2P games are run. Not so. F2P games definitionally have to hate their players, deliberately crafting a suboptimal experience to sell the opportunity to not have to engage with it. The hope is that somewhere in the gap in the middle, there’s some fun to be had, but the core F2P concept is>make the game not fun to play>use psychological manipulation to make “uninstall the game and do something else” unthinkable>sell the player permission to not play the game
>>59166288Please understand, the millennials that have taken up the gamedev mantle are trying their best and failing to live up to the gen-x and boomer gamedevs that created something with actual effort to it.
>Need a copy of the DS games to properly experience PBR>No rentals for almost every pokemon up to that pointPBR is a mess
>>59167230It's shit, just like all Genius Sonority games. Colosseum, XD and PBR are carried by their visuals. The animations, models and visual effects look pretty good for the most part, but the games themselves are awful.
>kojo's already in the thread
>>59166288Champions is such a fucking disappointment
They verbally used Stadium as a point of reference in the making of Champions, people are allowed to use those games for comparison.If you say you want make something like Stadium THEN I AM GONNA FUCKING EXPECT IT TO BE LIKE STADIUM.
>>59166739I used to play with rentals all the time growing up. Yes the teams were suboptimal but so are the rentals in Champions, and more importantly there was actually something you could do with the Pokemon. This game being online only despite being the future of Pokemon tournaments is laughable.
Does Battle Revolution detect cheated pokemon? Like, let's say my heartgold has pokemon that I got via trading with emerald which I used a gameshark to get
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>>59166288>Announcer from the animeNigga that's Stadium. Pabst Blue Ribbon had the narrator.
Having extensive single player content would be contrary to the games goals. It’s meant to lower the barrier of entry to competitive play, encourage people to buy the regular games, and make competitive a bigger thing separate from mainline. A bunch of single player content would end up with a bunch of casual players hiding out in those modes afraid to battle people, which is why the daily explicitly requires you to do a ranked battle
>>59166418It doesn't need to go that way but it does anyway, you can't say you like any game in the franchise on this board without someone throwing buzzwords at you. This is because people on 4chan in general are more likely to respond to a post they disagree with than one they align with, so you often see interactions like this:>A1: I like game X>A2, 3 and 4 agree but neither of them post because it doesn't stir much of a reaction in them.>A5: You retard, game X is the worst game in existence, kill yourself.
>>59167724It has better cheat detection than DPP at least, some obviously hacked pokémon in DPP will appear as bad eggs if you attempt to use them in PBR.
>>59166288What were your ways of obtaining and training pokemon in BR if you didn't have a DS?
This might be a dumb question but are you able to transfer pokemon from romhacks into this game? Assuming its still normal pokemon and their normal moves and abilities.
