>>59166445You mean the better version?
>>59166445You mean the racist version?
>>59166447>>59166457Controversial yes
belossom was the real victim
It was a play on ganguro girls but Westerners saw it and instantly thought it was a racist caricature. Same deal with that Golbat card that had the manji, ignorance of other cultures causing "censorship". Though I guess those were relatively minor things.
>>59166497Nah the slants absolutely knew about nogs lmao stop this cope
>>59166504>deliberately design a character to incite racial stereotypes abroad when the series wasnt even projected to succeed in Japan
>>59166509See picrel
>>59166518>blackface>with blonde hair>on a womanNot buying it. Just sounds like another person wanting the racism to be true so they can bitch about it and feel offended by the fucking japanese children's cartoon/game.
>>59166518not reading your tumblr post.kys nigger
>>59166522>>59166532Conservatards BTFO by FACTS and LOGIC
>Jynx is supposed to be blackface!>No, it's supposed to be a ganguro!>No, she's supposed to be Hawaiian!None of those make sense because she's an Ice/Psychic type which is not a typing you'd come up with if you tried making a blackface or ganguro or whatever Pokemon.
>>59166568It makes sense for an Ice type to live in Hawaii (going by Alolan Vulpix logic).
>>59166518There's so much mental gymnastic in this.Like the part where they say Jynx couldn't possibly be based on ganguro because it peaked in popularity later in the 2000s, despite the fact their own source says the style developed in the early 90s.
I liked the idea that she was a caricature of niggersBut I also like the idea of only retarded golem Americans immediately percirving it as a serious "hate crime" even decades ago when it wasn't intended to beBoth possibilities are funny and confirmation for one or the other doesn't change this. That's my final conclusion
>>59166568It's both gangaru and a Japanese snow mountain yokai witch who in Noh dramas is potrayed with a black mask.
>>59166445to this day I'm not 100% sure if it was a freak unfortunate coincidence or secretly on purpose. breaking the synergy she had with magmar and electabuzz though is a slight bummer, should've gotten an evo in sinnoh
>>59167010It is Yama-uba who also influenced the Gyaru style Yamanba which gets its name from Yama-Uba.
>>59166477I like purple Jynx but they shouldve kept black Bellossom
>>59166518kys nigger it's a children game made in 1996 when racism was funny and before niggers get to air their noise online
i don't care if jynx is racist or not, intentional or unintentional; it's a shit, ugly design regardless and should be permanently deleted from the franchise
Jynx never really recovered from this, you know? That's why all these years later she's never gotten an Evolution, a Mega, a region variant, a convergence, a primal / robot and so on and so forth.
>>59166445She was a Kardashian
I have no idea how some people insist she is a ganguro caricature and not a black caricature. Shit like this was very common in anime before they started taking American sensitivity into account.
>>59167331Plenty of Kantomons haven't gotten any of those yet.
>>59167089She should be redesigned and turned into a qt gyarumon based on their modern portrayal in anime and manga
>>59167089it's the lack of a neck that ruins it. It's like a weird egg with a wig on rather than a humanoid creature as it's based on. Give her a clear head and shoulders like smoochum and she'd be the sluttier version of gardevoir.
>>59167347>I have no idea how some people insist she is a ganguro caricature and not a black caricature.SHE HAS STRAIGHT BLONDE HAIR.
>>59167347Mr. Popo is an alien creaturePretty racist to assume he's supposed to represent a colored gentleman just because he has dark skin and big lips Don you think?
>>59167347If you were creating a racist black caricature, why would you give it:- Straight blonde hair- A red dress with gold linings- Ice/Psychic typingI don't think it's ganguro either but "she's black" only makes sense if you look at nothing else besides her skin color and lips. Put yourself in the seat of the artist: if your intent is to make a racist black caricature, why would you make those creative decisions? It makes no sense. Those donut lips are not unique to black characters either., it only seems like it because Americans have focused on a few examples of black characters who have them.
>Be black>see black skinned Pokemon >Look up how much money Nintendo makes>"Gibsmedat"Unfortunate
>>59167403>racistBecause the point was never to make Jynx as offensive as possible, same as the rest of the characters I posted. Just playing up stereotypes.>the rest of your postNever claimed Jynx is solely a black caricature. Obviously it got yokai influenced first and foremost.
>>59167331Our queen.
>>59166518The yamanba plays with black faces and white hair are the once that use face paints. Masked plays use white hair and normal skin toned masks.
It's too late now, but realistically, could they have just heavily redesigned it earlier in the franchise's history? Or even just removed it entirely?
After all the gigaleak shit and those Tajiri manga scans it is really fucking strange how Jynx managed to get into the final game at all when a bunch of fairly cool designs were left on the cutting room floor. Like, you really couldn't have just tweaked Crocky or the elephant mon a bit and put those in instead? You looked through everything and it was the fat ugly mammy that got the thumbs up? Fucking lol
>>59167030There's blackface monsters from Dragon Quest games that predate Pokemon whose overall silhouette and some of their features look very similar to Jynx. Like just compare how Jynx's hands are drawn in older Pokemon art to how this character's hands are drawn. I don't think it's a coincidence at all.
>>59168121And then there's this monster, who just arbitrarily has a black face despite having green skin and blonde hair. The enemy is just called Berserker in Japanese so I don't even know what the fuck they're even going for here.
>>59168121I can see it. Might just be a case of style overlap though.
>>59167390case in point
>>59166445she is mogged by her sexy pre evo so bad
>>59168320Looks better
>>59168105Jynx is distinct if nothing else.
>>59167402Mr. Popo is really obviously modeled after a genie. He's black because it's a b/w manga.
>>59166445poor jynx mindbroke the thin skinned whities
>>59168320It still bothers me how Sugimori gave the modern Jynx design those weird flaps on the sides of her dress because he misinterpreted the old anime stock art, even though no other piece of art or the anime itself featured such a thing.
>>59166518Nigger.
>>59167089all the overly-humanoid pokemon are weak designs that arean black mark on the franchise. G1 alone gave us Machoke, Mr Mime, Jynx, and Hitmonchan.
>>59166497>>59166509For fuck's sake, we've known for years now that it's based on a random Ultraman monster of the week.
>>59168507it's because Arabs were historically conflated with Africans in western fiction because the Ottoman Empire established widespanning trade and cultural connections with Africa (which included colonisation and enslavement of subsaharan Africa), so would often have black Africans integrated into their culture. hence: the blackamoor archetype, which is what Popo is based on. it's not that Toriyama hated black people or whatever, he was just innocently playing into a stereotype that was popular in the media he enjoyed as a youth.
>>59168559It was a different one that was the copy of Ultraman for fire/ice/electric trio and was scrapped though. A Jynx is a half and half.
>>59168605Jynx was seemingly the female counterpart of the scrapped one.
>>59168623makes no sense because electabuzz and magmar didnt have one
>>59168102I'd say they couldve left it behind in the jump to gen 3 because of no cross gen trading. Give Smoochum a new evo and all is well.
>>59166445and yet mr popo from dragonball was never widely censored
>>59168748I distinctly remember that they turned him blue at some point
>>59168623Female counterpart is probably too strong a word given the original Woo was a mother's ghost.
