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>it'll be good in 2 years after they finish drip feeding everything in!
why even release it as is then
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>>59172974
>poor game direction and an overbearing free-to-play structure
Gotta love these gamejourno niggers using useless corpo lingo instead of actually being able to articulate what they think is wrong with the game.
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>>59172974
because they need those shekels now. Without epstien, Game Freak's needs to find pay a new supplier for children to rape
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I read the review and it says basically nothing it’s just piggybacking off common sentiment for clicks
>you have to play le game to get Pokemon?
>where choice band
>where caterpie
That’s it that’s the review
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>>59173015
Money
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>>59172974
Pokemon Chumpions is such a fucking barebones game, I don't trust ILCA to make it a better game in the future at fucking all
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>>59173036
common sentiment is totally reasonable then
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>>59173015
I can almost visually that office at ILCA headquarters a couple of weeks before Pokémon Day, when whoever was in charge of this project showed up with a TPC executive and said with a smile: "Konnichi wa, minna-san! It's my pleasure to inform you that Ishihara-sama and the people in charge of the circuit have decided this year's Worlds will be played in Champions. Of course we need a 4-month trial run first, and that means the game must be ready for release in April. So give your best effort and prepare a demo to show on Pokémon Day. Arigato gozaimasu!" as a handful of overworked programmers put their hands on their heads in despair.
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>>59172974
The more I play the more I think Releasing the game in this state (Content wise, shit like the bugs and performance issues are of course unacceptable) was the right call
The Limited Poll of Mons genuinely brings out the Creativity of the player base, the game has it's strong team comps but you still have room to breathe and even bring your favorite shitmon to at least click a move once or twice before going down
Same with the limited pool of items, I especially like the lack of damage choice items and high end options like Life orb or Assault vest.
So far I'm enjoying Champions and I know people will miss this meta once we get more powerful Pokemon in the future
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>>59172974
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>59173225
I’m just glad I don’t have to fucking see Landorus-T (for now)
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>>59173229
ILCAsisters......
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>>59173015
Tbf, would you really want the 5th year in a row of VGC on SV, or for them to release Gen 10 unfinished and unpatchable?
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>>59173225
Yeah, Basculegion wasn't considered until day 3 or 4 of the meta
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>>59172974
I've reached Masters and already deleted the game, shit is boring
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Champions is rather interesting as a gacha because while it's trying to squeeze you out of your money like any gacha, it's not through its own transactions, it's to get you to buy OTHER games.
Even you buy all the season pass and membership bullshit, it's impractical at best, and a slog at worst, to play this game without a Home account and some Pokemon games with Pokemon ready to go.
So it's now wonder critics hate it, because in vacuum it's a terrible game. Kind of like Stadium and Battle Revolution before it.
Truly only the Pokemon franchise could come up with something like this.
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>>59173279
I fucking hated battle revolution when I was younger cause I didn’t have a DS lmfao
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>>59173279
Hold it. You can get more value if you own other products related to this game? Just like you know, fucking Amiibos? Mind-blowing!
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>>59173300
yeah home is just a really a big amiibo if you really think about it
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>>59173025
ESL-moment.
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>>59173204
It took the Showdown devs what, 3 days to implement all of the new megas, their abilities, and every mechanical/move update from Champions to Showdown (except I guess maybe they haven't done the new EV system, mostly because it would require two parallel systems rather than just changing it?)

Lack of content is not because of the workload involved. It would take an intern a week to put every single pokemon, move, and item in the game if that was what they wanted. The workload was getting the battle system implemented, once that's done for 1 pokemon it's basically done for all of them, barring the edge cases of moves with specific interactions.
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>>59173338
That assumes they just copied and pasted everything when they clearly did some buffs and nerfs. Otherwise Incineroar would still have Knock Off and U-turn
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>>59173300
>Just like you know, fucking Amiibos?
No, what kind of mental gymnastics is that? Amiibos are basically DLC tied to physical merch, it's a completely separate issue.
We're talking about a PvP gacha game with an inherently broken gacha system to compel you to buy another game to fix it.
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>>59173353
>an inherently broken gacha system
Explain to the class what its issue is
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>>59172974
The game just isn't fun. If you try to bring your favourites you'll get destroyed by some tryhard running Tyranitar and Arcanine so zero progress is possible.
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>>59172974
Most of my friends have already dropped it and gone back to Pokopia
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>arcanine
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I really can't fathom what people's issue is with the way you obtain Pokemon in this game. I own SV and ZA and haven't even bothered transferring any mons from HOME because of how many resources to get a competent team the game just throws at you.

>>59173225
Master Duel launched with a near-unlimited roster of cards and a weak banlist, and it's agreed by anyone who played it that launching the game in such a state basically killed its potential despite such a huge launch playerbase. Turns out newfags get overwhelmed and frustrated when there's a billion mons and items they need to learn and keep track of against people that have been playing the game for years, who knew?
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>>59173279
What separates Champions from games like Stadium and BR though is the lack of any effort put into the presentation. In the past the mainline games weren't 3D, so seeing Pokemon in that different media which brought new life to them with animations that
Champions not only just reuses most of its assets, but makes them look WORSE than what we already have in the main games while offering no content in the process under the guise of "its free xdd" as if there aren't a million f2p games out there that put in way more effort and content to justify themselves because they don't have the luxury of being a pokemon game. It doesn't even have the decency to offer different stadium types, you're just looking at the exact same arena every single fucking time.
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>>59173225
>I know people will miss this meta once we get more powerful Pokemon in the future
I know I will, I’ve been having a surprisingly high amount of success using Mega Chimecho because it completely walls Garchomp and a few others, but I know that’ll all go down the drain once stronger pokemon like the paradoxes or legendaries get involved.
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>>59173384
Yeah, no wonder Master Duel failed so horribly. They even knew the winning formula from Duel Links which was hugely popular thanks to launching with only the OG stuff that people actually care about.
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>>59173385
>look worse
Isn't that just (you) being a contrarian?
>exact same arena every single fucking time
Maybe because it's still the first season?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klPCdNYicJ0
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>>59173277
Anon, they just released Champion rank...
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>>59173398
No, the Pokemon models have less detail than in Scarlet and Violet

The game is graphically worse than SV
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>>59173549
Yeah, you sure convinced someone that isn't another person
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>"Despite its fantastic core battle system"
Isn't it the same battle system the series has always had?
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>>59173784
Yes, and the Pokemon battle system is, bar none, the best pvp turn based RPG battle system. It takes the best aspects of chess and poker and combines them into a game like no other.
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>>59173784
Yes, and the Pokemon battle system is, bar none, the best pvp turn based RPG battle system. It takes the best aspects of chess and poker and combines them into a game like no other.
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>>59173204
Overworked doesn't even count as an excuse anymore for Pokémon.

Either it's because those who handled the games for decades turned out to be absolute incompetent faggots who won't improve out of their own volition and who want to maximize profit by cutting off any help that gets basically served up to them on a fucking silver platter.

Even if the overworked crap is true, as long as they make millions of from it they won't change shit.
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>>59173784
Yes, and the Pokemon battle system is, bar none, the best pvp turn based RPG battle system. It takes the best aspects of chess and poker and combines them into a game like no other.
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>>59173338
1) actually SD simplifies things in a way that "looks close enough" most of the time, but they still cut corners in a lot of ways. For example, they've been aware of the eject pack torkoal inconsistency for years yet they can't fix it.

And the whole "mega before switch" saga and release bugs are strong hints that the battle system had to be overhauled yet again, because the core is fucking ancient.

2) You have completely ignored the graphical part, interface, server side functions, usage stats, friend system, recruit system, tournament management etc. but that shouldn't be surprising, because you aren't here for honest discussion

>>59173831
I'm not excusing Pokémon, actually I'm calling out their garbage corporate practices. You gotta realize none of the people who worked in Red/Gree are writing a single line of code in 2026. They're all snorting coke in yachts while putting unrealistic deadlines to underpaid intern bugmen.
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It's a typical free to play gacha styled game by greedy and lazy nintendo/gamefreak and their slave ILCA. Why bother giving out a review for this? Waste of time
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>>59173867
Calm down Mr. President. The servers are being wonky right now.
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Everybody saving their 10s for Winds and Waves
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>>59173784
>>59173867
I wouldn't go that far, but it's a lot deeper than people give it credit for.
The core games just don't utilise it very well.
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>>59172974
people still make articles like this?
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>>59172974
>This game awesome stop being so negative! They just need to add years worth of content be a little patient!
I understand reviewers and news sources like Joe saying this because they're literally paid to do that, but fans who do that are so sad to me, it gives me the impression they're trying so hard to not make this wobbly castle of cards fall because pokemon is the only thing keeping them willing to live or something, so the moment they admit a pokemon game is bad they lose their light
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>>59173025
Let me translate for you, the game has a lot of coal but it wants you to pay as you were in a gem mine
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>>59173279
I would actually pay for an announcer pack.
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>>59173879
>actually SD simplifies things in a way that "looks close enough" most of the time, but they still cut corners in a lot of ways
Oh, to be sure. This is what I meant by "barring the edge cases", because yes, these very specific sequence interactions can sometimes be very particular and they can break if the implementation isn't 1:1.

Honestly, a lot of what we consider "changes" to the game could even just be bugs like this: for example, everyone talked about Fake Out changing from failure on repeat use to refusing to allow repeat use. Is this an intentional balance decision, or a shortcut to reuse logic from something like Encore? Are the changes to how it interacts with Sucker Punch as a result of this a balance decision, or a quirk? We can't know, because Champions isn't attempting to emulate the official battle format, it IS the official battle format, anything it does differently is just a canon difference now, not an inconsistency.

However, and I feel like it needs to be stated here repeatedly, THIS IS NOT WHY THEY LIMITED THE ROSTER. I promise you, the reason Rillaboom is not in Champions is not because they just couldn't figure out how to make Grassy Glide work correctly in time for release. The decision to leave out items, pokemon, etc., was not a coding challenge. 95%+ of the content currently on the cutting room floor is nothing more than plugging new sets of numbers in to the existing battle engine with absolutely no silly shit to account for.
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>>59172974
Based Game Informer for shitting on this lazy Mobile Slop



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