>Gym "leader" fields 2 fucking cocoon forms and one functional pokemonJohtotards will defend this
>>59177062>B...but he is quite hard if you picked Chikorita!!!
>durable cocoons slowly whittle down player’s pokemon before based defense lowering, crit raising Scyther swoops in with 70 BP STAB move to finish the job.>all female btwYep it’s based.
>>59177073pidgey sweeps the entire team with gust
>>59177076Imagine you werent using Pidgey though
>>59177073/thread
>>59177073If the cocoons ever get a chance to “attack” more than once you’re a bad player.
pokemon is piss easy, more at 10
>>59177062A Ninja-like speedster using U-Turn and two cocoonmons as decoys.Holy fucking soul!
>>59177133Yep, anotha GOATo classic
>>59177062Did Johto not have any new Bugs?Could've sworn Heracross was from Gen 2.>>59177073>>all female btwYou're a sick, sick man.
>>59177062>gym has a spider aesthetic>doesn't use the spider-mon on his team
>>59177164Spinarak and Ledeyba would've fit the same purpose and were Gen 2 pokemon
>>59177164>Did Johto not have any new Bugs?Ledyba, LedianSpinarak, AriadosYanmaPineco, ForretressScizorShuckleHeracross
>>59177062The Cocoons are there to buy Scyther free U Turns, and maybe score some chip damage and a poison if you really suck. Frankly speaking, a U Turn spamming Scyther is more than powerful enough to sweep an entire team of base stagers.
>>59177062Bugsy walked so Whitney could rollout
oh no I spent one PP of my 30 PP early game moves on metapod aiiiieeeeeee johto is so haaaaard
>>59177062Probably an upgrade from using Ledishit
>>59177062Too many kids picked Charmander, then got their ass kicked by Brock.
>>59177307Where is the justice for Chicorita kids who only had Chuck's Poliwrath to look forward to in a game that hates grass types?
>>59177080Geodude(female) sweeps the whole team, like she did with Fravdner, and like she will with Shitney
>>59177164Johto had the best bugs out of any gen pre-BW
>>59177062johto is so dogshit, i dropped my last hg playthrough at the 5th gym out of boredom
>>59177363they're better than BW's.>>59177369next time don't actively avoid the game's wealth of side content.
the first gym is actually far more difficult because his Pidgeotto with roost can outheal the damage output of a lot of pokemon at that stage
>>59177062And Lt. Surge is easier than Misty, even without cheesing him with a ground type, which goes to show how dogshit the gym leader progression is in Kanto. Your point?
>>59177381what side content, shitty touchscreen minigames? that can't save how unfortunately dogshit the rest of the game is
>>59177133>Muh soul
>>59177483the rest of the game is also phenomenal though? i think you might just have shit taste man
>>59177385You have a lot of counter play for that, even in structured challenge runs you will always have something that gets tail whip/leer. You have access to supersonic/hypnosis and can literally just tail whip it 3 times before quick attacking to death.
>>59177065If he actually clicks u-turn, anyway. I steamrolled him with Bayleef because he literally refused to click anything except leer and focus energy. Pokemon enemy AI is so fucking bad, man. Retards also like to complain about shit like Cynthia, but then her Milotic is fodder who spams water moves into water absorb/dry skin users and mirror coat into physical attackers.
>>59177694yeah this is kind of a universal issue with pokemon gamesxy tried to combat it a bit by limiting movesets on a lot of the bosses but it didn't really work
>>59177385Falkner’s Pidgeotto is unironically easiest if you pick Chkorita>poison powder>spam tackle/razor leaf>click synthesis if low hpYou’re putting him on a timer, out heal him, and despite being “super effective” gust does barely any damage to you.
>>59177707This is actually the case for a lot of gyms. Chikorita performs a hell of a lot better than people give it credit for. I'd go as far as to say it's the strongest starter for the HGSS campaign.
>>59177717Really the only hurdles Chikorita actually faces in Johto’s gyms are Bugsy (unless the AI does >>59177694), and Morty. It’s definitely underrated and poison powder/reflect is honestly evil.
>>59177734It's also by far the strongest starter option for Whitney, which is the one gym particularly known to give kids trouble.
>>59177062this just tells me that game freak really does hate bug type. imagine how cool a scyther/beedrill/butterfree team would have been. She would have actually have looked like a "bug master"
>>59177755>sheBugsy is a boy. An adorable trap shota cocksleeve, but a boy nonetheless.
>meanwhile in the game with apparently good gym leader design
>>59177779>b-b-but the gym leaders do a thing at the end of the game!!
>>59177062Is this an edit? Scyther has Fury Cutter
>>59177807>he didn't play hgss
>>59177381>They're better than BW'sLolLmaoVolcarona alone clears every johto bug Also a better spider, and based millipede and levanny etc.
>>59177654>the dex is abysmal shit>the game's performance is slow as fuck>the routes are all underleveled kanto shitmons>tms are locked through monotonous minigame girding>evolution items are locked through monotonous minigame grindingnot really, the johto games are dogshit
>>59177073>>59177133>>59177222it doesn’t have u-turn in gsc
>>59178010It had Fury Clitter. And only 3 moves.Although, Metapod and Kakuna also had 3 moves each.
>>59177062Bugsy boipussi
>>59178110Get off 4chan, Wicke
>>59177968>he didn't explore off the beaten path>yeah sure this one is fair>he didn't explore off the beaten path>he hates kino minigames>he hates kino minigamesall of these complaints (except the performance one) just come from refusal to engage with the game. they're the highest rated mainlines for a reason
This guy is barely above a normal trainer
>>59177164>jotho gym leader>actually using jotho monslol
>>59178123Don’t bother with him anon. He’s a nu kids who started with bwHe doesn’t know what "additional content" is
>>59177076As someone who has actually played the game a few timesNo.Pidgeotto gets assraped by ScytherPidgeotto is ass, Gust is bad, resisted U-Turn fucks you bad. And that's assuming it doesn't get poisoned by Kakuna, because that isn't a oneshot.
>>59177318they died of embarrassment
>>59178183half of them do, but I wouldn't expect you to know that considering you don't even know how to spell "johto">>59178200meganiumchads won im afraid
>>59177742>WhitneyStarters all job here. Just send out Geodude, or Heracross if it's HGSS.
>>59178214>worst starter for over 2 decadesyou absolutely lost
>>59178286>best starter for over 2 decades and now people are finally realizing itCry me a river.
>>59178286> worst starter for over 2 decadesnope, that’s still treeko. Even back in orass it was used less than meganium. its sammurot if it was a grass type. only way they could fix it is by giving it a regional forms that swap its offensive stats
>>59178286Worst starter for 28 years and running
>>59178299It's decent in gen 3, at least it can kill shit without wasting time setting up
>>59178286Worst starter of all time is easily Snivy if we're talking about in-game
>the 8th gym leader, the final test before you can take on the elite four>team: luvdisc, whiscash, sealeo, seaking, miloticdiversity hire gym leader
>>59178320>It's decent in gen 3How to spot someone that never actually played Gen 3 101
>>59178320Nigga have you actually played RSE? Or are you saying Sceptile kills shit because it's the grass starter and you heard Hoenn is le water region?Sceptile is the worst of the three and it's not even close. It fucking sucks dude. Grovyle is useless until you get leaf blade, and then that remains Sceptile's best move for the rest of the game. A 70 base power grass move. lmao. And what water types do you face? Mostly Tentacool and Wingull, who are neutral to grass, not weak to it. Team Aqua has Carvanha but that would die to a single hit from any mon.
>>59178338>actually has a team of 5>meanwhile this pedobait only has 3 mons>one isn’t even fully evolved >doesn’t even use the pseudo of her genthis is what a real diversity hire look like
>>59177779Every single game has this problem except USUM, and that's solely for the durations of Totem Araquanid and Ultra Necrozma. It's called "not falling for the teambuilding meme and focusing exclusively on your starter".
>>59177062>>59178171this is just pre-game the real challenge is stadium
>>59177779Moxie is based
>>59177779>>59178378oh hi Kojo. defending jewtho now I see.
>>59178376her champion team was pretty cool at least>>59178378yeah the inherent issue with pokemon games is that it's really easy to optimize the fun out of them by dumping all your exp into a single pokemon. if you can learn to resist that urge though it's a lot more fun.it's like that bell curve meme except there's an extra step to it>stage 1: im just gonna use my starter because leveling up other stuff takes time>stage 2: i have to build a team for the sake of strategy>stage 3: the best strategy is to just use your starter because you'll outlevel everything>stage 4: using a full team is a hell of a lot more fun than just using your starteri understand the whole mentality of "I don't wanna play like a retard, i wanna play optimally" but the most retarded thing you can do is ruin the experience for yourself by taking the boring routepokemon games are pretty piss easy regardless, having a full team is just more fun
>>59177779Unova started the trend of Gym Leaders having 3 Pokémon and 4 on the League that continues to XY
>>59178391>johturd so dogshit that you have to buy a whole separate console and game just to have postgame
>>59178421? game by default literally has the most postgame in the series, especially in hgss
>>59177062lead - Pineco (L15)-Tackle-Protect-Selfdestruct-Take Down*gravitates towards using Selfdestruct second - Spinarak (L15)-Poison Sting-String Shot-Scary Face-Constrictlast - Scyther (L17)UnchangedFury Cutter -> U-Turn in GS -> HGSS, still leads it in HGSS and prioritizes U-Turn on the first turn
>>59177779
>>59177062
>>59178171
>>59178472you post this image a lot but i never really see the issue with it. what exactly is wrong with any of these teams?
>>59177062>>59177779>>59178171>>59178338>>59178376>>59178391>>59178469>>59178472>>59178474every single one of these is mogged and raped by not being a retard btw
>>59178291tell 'em girly
>>59178476>i never really see the issue with itmaybe because you're a toddychuck has 2 mons and Archer has 3 mons with 2 preevos and mismatched moves to base stats, for example
>>59178342>>59178370>Twitter tranny posting>muh water flying water poisonDoesn't matter, it still outspeeds and one shots trainer mons. Meanwhile Megashit is taking 3 turns setting up and missing its powder moves every battle and probably dead by that point anyway.
>>59178478If these "girlies" appreciate the best starter as much as I do, then they're alright in my book.
>>59177062she was taking it easy on you since you were so low level level
>>59178425both Johto and Johto's Kanto are empty
>>59178484>the pokemon game is easythe sky is blue. still don't see the issue.
>>59178477oh hi Kojo
>>59178496the issue is Johto challenge is bottom of the barrel and poorly designedit fails to meet already low standards
>>59178492In GSC sure, but I struggle to name a Pokemon game with more side content than HGSS, on account of there not being one. HGSS Johto and Kanto are filled to the brim with things to do. >>59178504>it's different and that means it's le bad!keep em coming
>>59178504>I chose not to include gen VIII and IX because of the more 'open' aspects in some areas that kinda mess with more traditional level curves>but also it's le bad when johto does the exact same thing by letting you choose the order for gyms 5-7 and most of the kanto gymsfuck directly off KEEEEK
>>59178485>it still outspeedsYeah.>and one shots trainer monsLmao no it doesn't. Not unless you're overleveled and in that case yeah no fucking shit, any mon can do that. Sceptile is a shitmon and I say that as someone who always picks Treecko. Sceptile is cool, but it fucking sucks.
>>59178485>he actually didn't play the gamethe larping is strong in this one.
>>59178485johtosharties are mindbroken and deflecting to poor sceptile when megashart is a grass type in the flying poison grass rattata region lol
>>59178572if you've actually used meganium in hgss you'll know it performs pretty damn well
>>59178527keep saying it chikorikek
>yet another thread devolved into seething about meganium's superiorityThey hate us 'cause they ain't us.
>>59178585I'm not even defending Chikorita, it's shit too, the only starter that is worse is Snivy. Just don't delude yourself into thinking Sceptile is good lmao.
>johto league gyms begin with a pidgey>kanto postgame gyms end with a pidgeot, thus bringing the journey full circleDare I say KINO?
>>59178572Sceptile is fine but Meganignog doesn't do anything. It sets up a screen or two and statused the opponent, now what? It still takes several more turns for you to do anything.
>>59178613>not using a swords dance setthats rather cringe innit bruv
>retards are still pretending snivy is bad
>>59178521Almost as if that kind of game design fucks up a JRPG's structure.
>>59178620>setting up tranny stratLMAO fuck off faggot
>>59178623>wahh wahhh i hate having freedomlmao ok
>>59178625>it's a tranny strat because it shatters my narrativeKEEEEEEEK
Scyther is already borderline too good for that early in the game. It doesn't help they were fucking around with designing Pokemon until the last possible minute, so they probably didn't know Ledian and Ariados were dogshit enough they could have put them on the team just fine. Johto didn't need a second Whitney filtering kids, and Heracross would have probably done that (say goodbye to your new rock type from Union Cave).
>>59178613>Sceptile is fineif you do a Kojo and overlevel it, maybe.
>>59178622I picked Snivy because its line is the coolest and it was fucking terriblean insult to game design
>>59178620Anything can one shot shit with set up spam, it's cringe and doesn't count
>>59178667>he needs x items for his starterkek
>>59178667it's a new strategy for them the nuzlockers taught them what they did 2 years ago
>>59178667with x items it takes two turns to do what swords dance can do in one
>>59178692You wouldn't need 2 if your starter wasn't shit
>>59178698shityle needs 2 lol
>>59178629If it makes the gameplay bad, yes.Good gameplay needs structure.And sometimes (especially in a JRPG) that requires some linearity.How underage are you to not understand that?
>>59178698too bad you’re using treeko then
>>59178704>If it makes the gameplay bad, yes.Good thing it doesn't.
>>59178620Scep gets Swords Dance in Emerald doebeit
>>59178724>no physical moves
>>59178732>eq, return, brick break/focus punch>crunch, thunderpunch and dragon claw for more special coveragethought u played the game nigga
>>59178740does sceptile really get earthquake?
>>59178746are you brown and didn't play the game?
>>59178747brother i was asking a genuine question, it's been fucking ages since i last used sceptilemeganium is still better on account of the fact that body slam paralyzes, you also have options like screens, poisonpowder (valuable in a game without the toxic tm), and leech seed if you breed (which the johto games do strongly encourage)meganium slots very nicely into just about any team in johto. i personally like to run swords dance
>>59178763>Body Slam can't kill shit>screens and Toxic don't kill shit>Leech Seed doesn't kill shitBrother who cares. 7 year olds at the time knew all that crap was pointless back then when the enemy doesn't get one shot.
>>59178771>sceptile can't kill shit
>>59178772>megatranny kills literally nothing
>>59178774>shitile kills literally nothing
>>59178774mega megatranny still kills literally nothing and looks retarded kek
>>59178779>epic reply failbut enough about mega sceptictank
>59178783i don't reply to actual trannies sorry
>>59178802>i don't have a counterargument nor a creative insult so I'm just gonna call you a tranny and call it a day.Concession accepted. Yep, anotha meGODnium victory
>argument was "no u"MegaSHARTies keep losing
>argument is "nuh uh"God, we Meganiumchads are physically incapable of losing. Feels good.
>>59177062>he doesn't know that gym leaders "learn" your teams moves as you use them and counter appropriatelyngmi
>megatrannies out-trannied scepchadssee what i mean kek
Are you ready.To meet.The WORST starter Pokemon of all time?
dilate sceptroon
>>59178724Not until the Battle Frontier lol
>>59178828he went back on that statement in that very LP because it kept coming in clutch and demolishing fights that it should've had a disadvantage to on paper.emile demonstrated pretty well that actually using chikorita disproves the whole "worst starter" meme whether he meant to or not
>>59178846It's easy to say that when your expectations are that low.
>>59178846Did it actually demolish fights, as in, oneshot everything like a good mon would do? Or are you being hyberbolic and actually mean that it slowly chipped the enemy down without dying, like a coping shitmon has to do?
>>59178871Watch the LP.
>>59178846>pick the worst starter for the content>grinds casually so expectations are even lower>does something in one or two battles>"wow! not so shitty after all!"meanwhile feraligatr doesn't need a toilet on his head to sweep hgss with minimum battles
>>59178877Neither does Meganium. Try it sometime.
>>59178876I'm not watching hours of videos to check if Chikorita was actually useful for once. I've used it myself before and concluded that it sucks, like most grass types do. If you watched it could you just tell me which of the two it did? Does it go first and nuke opponents like a genuinely good mon can do, or does it have to resort to cope strats to accomplish anything, while wasting everyone's time?
>>59178217>Starters all job hereNo they don’t. Not even the anon you’re replying to, but Bayleef legitimately makes Whitney a joke. Reflect while Clefairy is out, poison powder (click it twice, pussy), and then just fucking sitting there kills the cow easily.
>>59178876>>59178895This is how twitter trannies argue btw
>>59178899It wrecked house.
>>59178899He's not telling you how because he doesn't know and gen 2 fags only care about shitposting to bump limit.
>>59178906Hey retard. Read.>>59178905
>>59178911>howRead. Faggot tranny.
>>59178828It’s not even that bad for Johto. Comp sure, though the mega redeemed it and in GSC OU Smogon does rank it the highest of the Johto starters with a pretty clear lead. For ingame,>Treecko>Snivy>RowletAre all worse grass starters for their respective campaigns, but they tend to get a pass because their final forms look cool.
>>59178905I can say Beautifly wrecked house in my Emerald run, doesn't mean it isn't bullshit
>>59178914It fucking obliterated opposing teams. With raw strength. Funnily enough, one of the only gyms it struggled against was Whitney, because Emile tried a really quirky strategy with Natural Gift that didn't work out.
>>59178928>still doesn't explain how specifically when its shit stats and moves say otherwise>cites a time when it suckedLol. Lmao.
>>59178905Okay but what did it actually do? I've had people try to convince me that a shitmon is good before, and it basically always boils down to "uh it slowly whittled down the opponent over like 20 turns, but it didn't die so it's good!" A good mon like, say, Kadabra, would almost always be going first and oneshotting everything, accomplishing the same result in a fraction of the time. That's what a good mon can do. So I'll ask again, did Chikorita outspeed and oneshot the enemy? And did it do so consistently?
>>59178936>"uh it slowly whittled down the opponent over like 20 turns, but it didn't die so it's good!"or "i used swords dance 3 times and an x speed and a couple potions and it sweeped the e4!!!"
>>59178932Headbutt, mostly. >>59178936>did Chikorita outspeed and oneshot the enemy? And did it do so consistently?Yes.
>>59178944>HeadbuttOn level 8 wild Pokemon when grinding? Fucking crazy ass shit.
>>59178943One Swords Dance is enough.
>>59178948One isn't enough. I tried.
>>59178944>YesAlright then now I'm curious, because that's not at all what my experience is with using one. Aside from wild mons but who the fuck counts that? Got a link to the LP, maybe with some timestamps to showcase Chikorita doing well?
>>59178947Nope. On actual trainers. Go watch the LP. It's pretty entertaining.Also only retards grind on wild mons instead of trainer rematches.
>>59178936>did Chikorita outspeed and oneshot the enemy? And did it do so consistently?As someone who actually used it, yeah. It really can do both ungabunga and stallshit, unlike the other two starters which fold to anything that can actually take a hit like Miltank or Kingdra. By the end of Kanto I was running>SD>EQ>Giga Drain>Body SlamAnd steamrolling.
>>59178952On Chuggaaconroy's channel. Genuinely just watch it from the start, it's a good series.
>>59178954>still citing nothingThanks for wasting everyone's time as usual, carry on.
>>59178954surely you'd remember those hype megatranny moments if it was so entertaining and link the episodes and timestamps :)
>>59178918>GSC OU ranking is Meganium > Typhlosion >>> Feraligatr>Champions ranking is Meganium > Typhlosion >>> FeraligatrIt has really come full circle huh.
>>59177062Gym leaders are fighting on roughly equal grounds as their opponentIn the Origins Anime Brock had a full team of 6 pokemon but only fought with two because red had no badges yetIf you want to really challange them you have to fight them for realy you can challange them in the post game where they have a full team of 6
>>59178957yep, i remember when my oddish swept flannery and took zero damage. best pokemon ever.
>>59178983this but unironically.
>>59178983Average Johto campaignshitter
>>59179015>implying oddish isn't the best pokemon eversomeone's mad they got ababored
>>59179024>Dead "memes"All Johtofags should be banned
>>59179028>t. golurk
>>59179028based.
>>59178954still waiting for those moments bro
>>59178171Fight Pryce immediately after Morty if you want a surprisingly tough fight.
>>59179034
>>59179041cringe.
>>59179041Cry more faggot
>>59179048>doesn't deny samefaggingkek
>>59178959I ain't watching all of that but I skimmed through the Johto gym leader fights>FalknerKilled a Pidgey and had to use Geodude for Pidgeotto>BugsyUsed poison powder then switched to Geodude who swept>WhitneyKilled Clefairy, died to Miltank, then had to fall back on Geodude once again>MortyActually a sweep, but he had to use swords dance twice and was overleveled>PryceOverleveled sweep, as expected because he is weak to grass>ChuckOverleveled sweep>JasmineDidn't even use Meganium>ClaireSet a screen and didn't actually do any damage with MeganiumJudging by this I'd conclude that this is more of a "Geodude is pretty decent, Chikorita was there too" rather than "Chikorita demolishes fights". It swept three gyms, two of them were to be expected and the one that was a bit of a surprise was due to being a higher level and being at +4 attack.
>>59179051>newfagso cringe.
>>59179051Back to Twitter tranny
>>59179056if you don't wanna get called out for samefagging, just don't samefag
>>59179060Cry more faggot
>>59179067Type that again without crying
>>59179060so, so cringe.
>>59179052So it was basically useless. No surprise there. Again, when your expectations were already extremely low, anything remotely beneficial will surprise you.
Reminder meganium will be worthless again in gen 10 since there won't be megashit
>>59179080Pretty much. I wonder if anyone would even give a shit about it and defend it if it was just some random mon rather than a starter. Being "usable" does not make something good and I wish people could just accept that. Ungabunga with a strong mon is boring but it's also the objectively best strategy for in-game. When you're competing against shit like Kadabra/Alakazam (even Abra has higher speed and special attack than Meganium btw lmao) and fucking Heracross then it's not enough to be just usable.
are all grassfags that petty and autistic against one another? feel like rillaboom is the only exception to the rules and that’s because it suffer from having literally no fans just like emboar.
>>59179138>(even Abra has higher speed and special attack than Meganium btw lmao)meganium typically runs physical prior to getting a mega
>>59179138"Usable" and "viable" are meaningless buzzwords people in these threads repeat like a broken record to feel good about their shitmons
>>59179052>and had to use Geodude for PidgeottoHow fucking bad is he? Just do >>59177707 and it goes down>his was level 15 tooWhat the fuck? You don't even need to be that high leveled to solo it with Chikorita.
>>59179140All of the galar starters are cracked ingame so there isn't really any infighting
>>59177062the whole team is female because bugsy is female. we know that bugsy is a female trainer according to the game's code.
>>59179140yes, but so are all firefags, waterfags, and pokefags in general reallythis board is a testament to that. that's just how the pokemon community is. i wish we could all just get along
>>59179148>pidgeotto used roost>continues using gustplay the game faggot
>>59179149>All of the galar starters are cracked ingame.Not really. Rillaboom suffer the same fate as serperior where it’s a whortless shitmon for the campaign that get cucked by almost all mendatory fights unless it has its hidden ability
>>59179154I did two back to back playthroughs of HG and SS recently. Gust is weak as shit and takes 3 hits before you need to actually click synthesis, "super effective" my ass.>b-but roostPoison powder. The AI is dogshit and goes for roost every turn if it feels that you'll knock it below half hp that turn. Poison powder followed a single attack has it panic and spam roost every turn, expending all of its PP.
>>59179153meh, waterfags are pretty chill outside of their almost mutual hatred for both flavor of samurott
>>59179142Okay then I'll compare with a physical attacker. You can catch a Geodue immediately at the start of the game and it only has two attack less than Meganium, who you don't get until lvl 32. Or you could grab a Heracross who has 125 attack in Azalea Town.
>>59179178geodude isn't a kino sauropod, therefore it loses
>>59179182>gay tranny logicGeodude wins
>>59179187>chikorita used razor leaf!
>>59179154>poison powder cheeseIf you can’t solo Falkner with your starter it’s kind of a skill issue ngl.
>>59179182Neither is Meganium thoughbeit. It could have been, but instead it's a girly cutemon that vaguely resembles what COULD have been a really cool pokemon.Also Geodude is rad as hell and actually pulls its weight in-game. Fuck you.
>>59179192>weedle used poison sting!>chikonigger fucking dies!
>>59179209the joke doesn't work when it's not a 4x weakness. unless it's oddish and golurk.
>>59179174>>59179198>Miss Poison Powder twice>lose to babby's first gym leaderGreat strat.
>>59179203>sharty lingocould be a little more subtle there.
>>59178662skill issue
>>59179216doesn't need a 2nd type for it to flop to a weedlewhy do none of the johturd starters have a 2nd type?
>>59179224Huh?
>Bulbasaur can leech seed and status all campaign with ease>Chicorita, Turtwig and Rowlet/Snivy if they count as slow bulky support grass starters are all unplayably badWhy is this? What's the secret sauce Bulbasaur has?
>>59179231Gen 2 was made to flop
>>59179231>why do none of the johturd starters have a 2nd type?monotype starters quite consistently have vastly superior designs to dual type starters.
>>59179237>What's the secret sauce Bulbasaur has?Auto crit razor leaf and decent offensive stats?
>>59179242Biggest cope ITT
>>59179242geg
>>59179248Prove me wrong then.>>59179250>>59179224
>>59179247He's still perfectly cromulent in gen 3 though
>>59177062I will not defend it, instead I will play Crystal Legacy where he instead has pinwco and ledian.
>>59179254Don't need to, it's common knowledge except for shitposting sharties
>>59179264>it's common knowledge that monotype starters quite consistently have vastly superior designs to dual type startersGlad we're in agreement.
chikofaggots don't even need to try for bump limitonly thing the shitmon is good at is making other trannies mad
>>59179272>admitting to being a trannykek
>>59179265I'm sorry, reading must be hard for trans women like you.
>>59179272TRUEJohto = Sharty
>>59179281You said it sis, not me.
>>59179287idk man johtochads aren't the ones using sharty lingosee >>59179250 >>59179203
>>59179294Takes one to know one.
>>59179298>he hasn't been around long enough to recognize shartyniggers from a mile awayLurk more.
>>59179294jej
>>59179260It matches up well against the first three gyms, and while razor leaf is nowhere near as good it at least still goes off of your sp.atk in FRLG so it's usable. After you get to Celadon is when Venusar starts to fall off and the other two would be better.
>>59179302I see you right there, shartynigger. Go back to Twitter where you belong.
>>59179306I was here first.Johtochads birthed this board. You're on our turf.
>>59179314>actual pokemania kids weren't here firstqeq
>>59179314That's Kantofags. Sorry you got the scraps.
>>59179319Unironically yes, learn your board history. The board exists because HGSS was so kino it broke /v/.
>>59179325That's Pokemania kids talking about BW leaks, actually.
>>59179325Wrong, /v/ wouldn't care about kiddie shit people hardly bought. Corocoro leaks is correct
>>59179327>>59179334You weren't here. It shows.
>>59179338You weren't here and lied in every single post, it definitely shows.
>>59179340I only speak the truth.
>>59179338back to the shartycord, you failed
Mentally ill genwunner hereDidn't Gen 3 babs make this board? I remember coming here from the Nuzlocke forums
>>59179345It was made in 2010, pre-BW.
hgss hype and bw leaks happened around the same time, it was a bit of column a and a bit of column bneither one of you is wrong but you're both retarded
>>59179222On one of the playthroughs I missed it 4 times in a row and still solo'd lol. That's how I learned how little damage gust actually does, and really how stacked against Chikroita the RNG has to be to give Falkner a glimmer of false hope. You're either a larper or legitimately the sort of person a babby-tier AI trainer would give trouble. Either way, skill issue is apt, yeah.
>>59179364there was no hgss hype, it sold like trash lmao
>>59179369no mainline pokemon game has ever sold like trash. even crystal sold 6 million copies, which is a financial success
>>59179365>missed it 4 times>Lvl 13 0 SpA 6 IVs Pidgeotto Gust vs. Lvl 13 0 HP 15 IVs / 0 SpD 15 IVs Chikorita: 14-18 (38.8 - 50%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKOis that right
>>59179377imagine training chikoshit to lv 13 and not boxing it immediately
>>59179380Why would I box Chikinorita?
>>59179384To use good Pokemon like the Kantomons
>>59179394I want to use evil Pokemon like Larvitar and Murkrow thoughbeit
>>59179394I'm gonna use good Pokemon like Meganium instead
>>59179400Uh oh sharty lingo!
>>59179402...evil?
>>59179394Based. Use the level 50 Magikarp too while you're at it.
>>59179400in hgss you can get both of these after the 5th gym btw
>>59179410at like level 15 and after 3 in-game hours (when you can beat lance) kek
>>59179414>not taking time to smell the roses and play the side contentalso you say that as if the upcoming battles are significantly higher in level than that
>>59179418>johtards>wasting timename a more iconic duo
>>59179423Meganium and trans men
>>59179423Diddyphlosion and little girls
>>59179423Feraligatr and toilets
>>59179423>having fun when playing a video game is a waste of timeAh, you're one of those.
>>59179425>>59179429>>59179431holy geg
>>59179431C-Can we go back to making fun of Chicorita please?
>>59179437OkI feel like cutting myself every time I use Megashart
>>59179425>>59179429>>59179431Mindbroken.
>>59179445>he uses meganiumwouldn't that make you a tranny by your own logic?
>>59179377What would happen here is>Pidgeotto used Gust>Chikoshit used Poisonpowder>Pidgeotto used Gust>Chikoshit used Razor Leaf for like a 6hko>Pidgeotto sees kill so it'll outspeed and use Gust again>Chikonigger fucking died
>>59179463>Lvl 13 0 Atk 15 IVs Chikorita Razor Leaf vs. Lvl 13 0 HP 6 IVs / 0 Def 6 IVs Pidgeotto: 5-6 (12.5 - 15%) -- possible 7HKO>>>possible 7HKOl o l
>>59178123>go off the beaten path for more kanto shitmons>waste hours grinding dogshit touchscreen games for tms lolall these complaints come from the game being designed like dogshit, they're the highest rated games by low iq nostalgia faggots for a reason and hated by anyone else
what is it with this board right now and meganium derangement syndrome?what is it about the flower dinosaur that sparks this much vitriol? who fucking cares if it's "good" or "bad" for the campaign, pokemon games are so piss easy it literally doesn't matter one way or another. if you like it, use it, if you don't, don't. it really is that simple. you're all retards
>>59179472what you don't like mashing a for a fucking shiny leaf???
>>59177062I jerked off to Bugsy only after I found out he was a boy.
>>59179476Meganiumfags are posting like Twitter niggers and newfags are taking the bait
>>59179472>implying exploring to find cool new pokemon isnt kino>implying the pokeathlon isnt kino>>59179479>implying bonding with your followmon isnt kino
>>59179476Johto haters are all autistic freaks
>>59179484It's 2026. We've moved on from gay flash games like the Pokeathlon and time-wasting features.
>>59179486all of you are autistic freaks. this is embarrassing on both sides.>t. johto enthusiast
The only gen that matters is gen 1.
>>59179491>it's a waste of time even though it's funI think you're just boring. You bore me.
>>59179491the only good thing hgss has is the battle factory (copy pasted from a better game).
>>59179484The "exploration" in johto is trash and the encounters come through time gated measures, retardbro. and no, sloppily made touchscreen games for time gated items isn't kino either. sounds like the game is padded dogshit
>>59179499I think you're low IQ and anything you say is just mindless drivel.
>>59179502>The "exploration" in johto is trash even though it's fun>the world feeling alive is a bad thing actually >the minigames are sloppily made because i said they are
>>59179511>mindless timewasting bullshit is funWe know you do, room temp IQ faggot.
>>59179503If my IQ is "low" yours is in the single digits.>>59179514>it's timewasting even though it's fun
>>59179515Here, I bet you'd find this fun too.
>>59179525mega meganium isn't fun
>>59179514NTA but it shows a lack of self-awareness when you mock the enjoyment of "mindless timewasting bullshit" while arguing on 4chanthe fact that you're in this thread spending your time arguing about a pokemon game shows that you too enjoy "mindless timewasting bullshit" to some extent
>>59179532>NTAlol.
>>59179497Gens 1 and 3, 4 (Sinnoh only) and 5 are good. If you like Johto I think less of you.
GOATo won
>>59179556nah
>>59179557User reviews say otherwise.Sucks to suck. Sorry that HGSS mogs your favorite.
>>59179476Zoomers are obsessed with minmaxxing to the point that they are offended by even just seeing anything that doesn't offer the absolute best bang for buck. It actually makes them sick viscerally
>>59179564If we're going by reviews then Kojo and Pokopia won. Sorry Johtranny.
>>59179566>zoomers are smarter than me waaahFunniest shit evert. '91
>>59179564>muh eceleb reviewskek
>>59179566It's like I've always said.Outside of the context of competitive play, there is no such thing as a shitmon, only a shit trainer.>>59179568I haven't played Pokopia, so I can't speak on that. If it's really as good as people say it is maybe I should give it a shot.Regardless, HGSS has the highest user reviews out of all the mainline Pokemon games. My experience with the spinoffs is rather limited, so I'm not really including them.>>59179576>eceleb reviewsI'm not talking about ecelebs though?
>>59179582No, they're great.
>>59179583>no such thing as a shitmonsee >>59179138 >>59179143 next time you say viable again
Just finished another playthrough of Crystal, had fun.
>>59179583kojo is XY btw
>>59179596I'm aware. XY places right behind HGSS. When people cite XY as "first place" they're leaving out remakes.
Just beat Lance in HGSS, it was boring as fuck.
>>59179595based fun haver
>>59179602No it doesn't. Y is at 88, HG and SS are at 87.
>>59179603based honest player.
>>59179611Wrong. HGSS just barely edges it out. Note the fine print
>>59179633And Y is higher than X and edges them both out. Curious why you left that out.
>>59179637>Curious why you left that outdecades of johto astroturfing
>>59179637Wasn't on the charts. Not my image.Here's a more recent one.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/359435-pokemon-scarlet/80767627
>>59179641>youtuber shitLol
>>59179648How about this very board?>>59175353Every single tier list ITT has HGSS in the top tier, on account of it being the best Pokemon game.
>>59179652>your tier listLmao
>>59179652I've got more.https://www.imdb.com/list/ls024222293/?sort=user_rating%2Cdesc
>>59179658>gen 1 is the highest rated with the most reviewsWe know
>>59179659SS appears first on the list when sorting highest to lowest reviews. Red is next, followed by HG.
>>59179665Yet they all have an 8.8
>>59179670If I had to guess there's more decimal places that get omitted.
>>59177062Metapod, Kakuna, and even Caterpie and Weedle are far stronger than Ledian.
>>59179665Red has more reviews than HG and SS combined, not to mention the fanboys that rated both and the backlash Kanto has gotten from the past 10-12 years. Gen 1 and 6 won.
>>59179676>well if you jump through all these hoops-Cope.
>>59179665imagine how many npcs rated hgss a 10/10 because it had following pokemon in 2010
>>59179683>imagine how many people rated hgss a 10/10 because it's the best pokemon game A lot.
>>59179658>1.3k voteswowzers
>>59179688>favorite region >not favorite gamewowzers
>>59179691It's a better metric because people just assume the best version of the region.
>>59179695No, not really.
>>59179698Yes, really. Cope.
>>59179713>google "pokemon games by ratings">pretty much every single source except for a few reddit tier lists puts hgss in first placeit's really that simple.
wowie
wowza
>>59179722>>59179730>reddit
wowzer
>>59179738not even ranking the game itselfalso >poketuber viewers
wow.
>>59179746>pokemon challenged and mista merrikukek
>>59179746Man that's ROUGH
>>59179746Hi, Jan's sponsor here. Go watch his Platinum Kaizo runs, they're far better than HGSS slop.
>>59179753rough for the detractors lmao, the best they can get to represent them is a larper who uses infinite rare candies and save scums the moment anything gets remotely challenging and the laughing stock of the entire board
>>59179755thanks i forgot it came out!
>>59179761>29k people voted you outYIKES
>>59179770None of them have power.
>>59179776>>59179633>>59179641>>59179652>>59179658None of these have power compared to YouTube.
>>59179776Cope, seethe, dilate
>>59179782Cope with what? HGSS's status as the best Pokemon game?
>>59179793>already copingLol
>>59179802Seethe.
>>59179804You don't matterCope
>>59179736second one is FB which is inarguably worse
>>59179808>wahhhh wahhhh
>>59179818It's 4chan, actually.
>>59179819Keep crying fag
>>59179832Type that again without crying.
>>59179840Keep crying fag
>>59179844I said without crying.
>>59179847Keep crying fag
>>59179850Awww, don't cry, it's just a pokemon game. Do you want a hug?
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>>59179857>Worldbuilding at its finest
>>59179857>>59179862This is, in fact, exactly how discovery works in the real world.
>>59179857No one cared about Elm so nobody contacted him for the new Pokemon
>>59179877johto as insignificant as ever huh
>>59179900Just like the real world
She tried to warn us. Why didn't (You) listen?
>>59179877the new pokemon were so rare and useless that everyone preferred rattata and pidgey anyway.
>>59179862Goes to show how lazily and carelessly Gen II was developed.
>>59179656this
>>59179564you realize Masuda is barely responsible for HGSS right?
>>59179546>and 5kek
>>59179369> there was no hgss hype, it sold like trash lmaoso just like bw then
>>59178504>>59177062Anti johto tards really use "a pokemon game is easy" as an argument. Pokemon. An RPG always known for having no difficult since the fun is the journey and collecting part anyway.
>>59179595better than HGSS since you can actually use the shitmons that are johmons thanks to stat exp
>>59180406>the fun is wasting timezzzzzzzzzzzzzz
My favorite Johto cope is "you are supposed to play it a bit at a time"Like what does this mean? Time based events are like one useless item given out on one day.>boot the game up. >There is nothing to do>collect a useless item from an NPC that only appears Monday>run once through the elite four>evolve a single shitmon like natu as a result>I could do the trainer house in Viridian City but theres no experience in the remake so whatever>turn the game off CANT WAIT TO PLAY AGAIN TOMORROW
>>59180428it's like playing a really shitty mmo
>>59178509>In GSC sure, but I struggle to name a Pokemon game with more side content than HGSSB2w2
>>59180507Agreed if BW2 had a proper version of the Battle Factory. Otherwise it's a toss up imo since I don't value PWT, Pokestar or the other non-Subway facilities very highly.
why is this still getting bumpedanyway johto fucking sucks
