Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch with a mobile release later. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.Switch 2 users: Launch the game in handheld mode or undock/redock to get the performance boost>NewsChampion Tier & Master ranks 1-3 unlocked for current seasonWarm Up Challenge competition over, Gardevoir reward availableFree Machamp mystery gift code: CHAMP10NSeason 1 runs until May 13Mobile release possibly leaked for June>Linkshttps://champions.pokemon.com/en-us/https://x.com/Pokemon_Champs (EN) https://x.com/Poke_Champ_jp (JP)Pokémon data: https://serebii.net/pokedex-champions/Available mons: https://www.serebii.net/pokemonchampions/pokemon.shtmlMega abilities: https://serebii.net/pokemonchampions/megaabilities.shtmlQuick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 quick coupons, 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Mega Kalos starters and E-Floette require ZA transfer.
I'm honestly reworking incineroar to a new build, it seems blaze kick has +1 crit boost, so I gave roar scope lens, also snarl, and replaced parting shot with buildoze
>General died out alreadyAnyway. Is Mega Audino really that bad in doubles? I want to use it.
Shit game
Will we ever get legendaries?
>>59181870*and mythicals
>>59181870Hopefully not for a while, and if they do, rotate them starting with the shit ones.
at first I was angry at the roster, but honestly? this is actually good idea, hope next month will have different pokemon with many forbidden in the new format
>>59181879I'm more mad at the limited held items
>>59181876I hope it's all of them all at once and it's a separate mode
>>59181870You don't want to play with legends legal, restricted formats suck ass
can someone trade me incineroar on s/v? I do not want to buy DLC to get this fucker.
What a god
I just got a Kommo-o from the GTS, how good is this thing currently? I dunno anything about how to use it, but I've seen it used on some teams and I'm thinking of trying it out.
>>59181879I don't think people will be happy if you make many currently available mons unavailable in future regulations. I'd be fine if they removed a couple of bullshit pokemon (incineror) to mix things up, but if 30+ mons suddenly become unuseable it'll fuck over many peoples fav teams too hard.I think they gotta just keep slowly adding mons at this point, which is fine, but It woulda been nice if shit like incineror/archaludon/sneasler weren't already fucking shit up in the pool.
>Go on Youtube>Yesteday's Meta team is now trash! Try this NEW team insteadFuck me, this is my first time into Pokemon Comp. Is it always like this in the first weeks of a new format? I JUST got comfortable piloting this rain team. Holy shit I can't keep up ;_;
>>59181923It's a cool setup mon thats allergic to fairys.I like him as a (potentially) mixed attacker with clangerous soul +clanging scales/close combat or as a body press defense setup mon.
Aromatisse is one of my favorite pokemon and I feel like I have to use it now cuz as soon as they add more pokemon it'll go from unviable to unusable. Most fun I've had is more or less walling out Whimsicott since it can't taunt or encore when Aromatisse is on field.
>>59181935You are just getting baited by poketubers to click on their video with hyperbolic titles.
>>59181924Maybe not each month like that Anon said, but they should 100% massively shake up the usable Pokemon each Regulation.also, go with some fun regulation like only Kanto/Johto/[insert region] mons etc
>>59181914Ill trade it to you. My switch is banned though. So just toss something in Home GTS and then tell me your IGN. We can trade that way instead if you dont mind
>>59181941They could possibly have 2 ranked pools. One for current regulation and one for every mon available in champions already. This is a game that could handle splitting the ranked playerbase and that way people wont lose their fav teams and get to splash around in a new metaThis is reasonable and easy to do so gamefreak wont let it happen. Theyll do something even dumber and lazier
>>59181942yeah i just dont know how to trade on pokemon home.. i open it up and theres just the pokebox and pokedex
>>59181954Anon means the mobile version of Home.
>>59181954>>59181957yeah its the mobile version of Home. I keep forgetting people dont know you can trade using Home
>just discovered bulky venusaur with light screenI keep telling myself I'm sick of using a sun team, but then I make one change and I love it again
>>59181957>>59181959w-why would they do that...alright, downloading it
>>59181923Seems really good, he has a lot of sets to run but is otherwise quite tanky so he can be a huge roadblock for a lot of teams.Plus his design is cool, and that is all that matters really.
>>59181859It's not bad. The problem is that it's not really worth taking your mega slot
>>59181959ok got it set up -- woudl this be a room trade or GTS?
>>59181994gts is easier, else you wanna add me as friend?Room trades is for goveaways, and only if the person doing the giveaway paid for home, which i didnt
>>59181994nvm saw your post -- put up a tangela looking for incineroar, ign is manny
>>59181994>>59181997enjoy your incineroar
>Got the idea of using parting shot on my own Milotic>Don't have a team for it rn>Check Pokemon that learn parting shotFUCK. It really comes down to that shitty, doesn't it?
>>59181999thanks man! appreciate you
>>59182002It won't work anyway
>>59182002That doesn’t work, the stat drop has to come from an enemy. Otherwise people would use parting shot into Kinggambit to get +3 turn 1 haha
What’s a good rain team?
>>59182016https://pikalytics.com/pokedex/championstournaments/pelipperHere are several
>>59182002This is why facing Corviknight is your best friend with Milotic. The enemy Corviknight is kind enough to give you speed drops with your own icy wind, giving you competitive boosts.
I’m losing faith in Incineroar it feels like the game is too fast
>>59182029incineroar keeps up with restricted pokemon. however, it doesn't have the same punch when it doesn't have the second half of the blowjob brothers, being rillaboom.
>>59182016Obviously Peli to set the rain, you can run him as tailwind support or some insane scarf build to nuke under it. Arch is a good Special attack and has great bulk. Those two are probably your core that you run in every team imo.For megas you can either go all-in on the rain with mega Blastoise or run something for coverage like Meganium/Gard. H-Arcanine for E-Speed/Rock coverage is good as your Intimidate setter, or you could go Gary with a supportive/bulk set-up or a physical attacker or just run Incelroar like everyone else because he's that good. Everyone is running Basculegion as a physical sweeper right now for insane Wave Crashes so that's an option, but I feel like people are going to be expecting that and will plan accordingly. I feel like Rain has the most options for building under, so I'm sure you can find something else that works for you.
>>59181923I use him as singles stealth rock dragon tail lead
>encountered espathra for the first timeThis thing looks like it's going to be really annoying to deal with
>>59182018>>59182036>Toilet birdNot that Anon, but is that the only rain option?What about the Toed?
>>59182080I saw some teams using it because they wanted a Perish Shong option, if that's not in your plans it's probably not a defensible choice, sadly.
>>59181921Is that DerBeste?I think he was 2nd in the warm up challenge.
>>59182080Peliper has better typing and moveset, even if the big toad has a bit better stats. Can't go wrong with tailwind and hurricane while being able to swap into fighting moves.
>>59181921Massively ugly trainer.
>rotom wash (HP/Def Leftovers)>kingambit (HP/Atk Sunglasses)>M-Gengar (SpAtk/Spe)>garchomp (Atk/Spe Lum Berry)>basculegion (Atk/Spe Spec)Can anyone suggest a 6th to fit into this team? I'm thinking of a Fairy type
>>59182121Smh for Singles
>>59182080I think Peli has better coverage on its moves but you could probably run Politoed. The biggest thing is Peli gets access to Tailwind, so you often need to run another Tailwind setter which can limit your team options.
>>59182121>I'm thinking of a Fairy typeYou know damn well which mon this team needs Anon...
>>59182121Repulsive. Where's Incinememe? Where's rain bird of healthy meta?
>>59182121Why are you listing 2 stats?You have 66 evs, spread them around like a white man.
>>59182121Clefable? Depends on what you are wanting to do with your last slot; I would assume someone to set-up/support so I would go either Clef or Whim if you want a Tailwind setter.
>>59182130Don't own Z-A, unfortunately>>59182131Tom sucks in singles>>59182132Just to simplify things>>59182148I suppose I can try those out. Thanks
Mega Dragonite should have been pure Flying type. And kept Inner Focus.
>>59181885Nta but I've minded it less and less over the last week. If anything the only thing I'm missing in particular is the pinch berries and toxic orb for this>>59181923I got this team off twitter and have had fun with it in ultra ball https://pokepast.es/410642dd8a01a43dI think Kommo is underrated in current meta, it fills a strong niche as a special attacking fighting type>>59182029I think it feels worse than it actually is. The combination of mental herb sneasler being the most popular set, rain being prevalent and no grassy terrain to smooth out the eq matchup feels bad but it's still probably the best balance intimidater with gyarados as a close second imo
>Use Sand Veil Bright Powder Chomp as a meme>It actually works out>Rock Slide after Rock Slide completely misses my ChompI almost feel sorry for them.>Their face when Rock Slide misses 3x in a row
>>59182180>The combination of mental herb sneasler being the most popular set,you mean white herb
>>59182029The meme is still hilarious
>>59182188I did, ty anon
>>59182183I double-crit a Rock Slide with my Scarf'd Chomp turn 1, killing 1 and flinching the other.Guy immediately forfeited.
Has anyone seen a Mega Excadrill yet? What a flop that was
>>59182166You can use home to get the flower, mimikyu is also a good
Is Umbreon any good? I'm mostly going to use it in singles to spam Yawn and Wish.
>>59181870that’s a mythical you moronic mutt
Using Upper Hand on Incinretards and Sneadlets is funny. Especially when they don't know that Firagiraf has Armor Tail.
>>59182217Yes, it's currently #20 most used in singles
>>59181924>NOOOO! How will my snow team work now that vaniluxe is gone?! I’m gonna be forced to use an actually good ice type now instead
>>59182180Would Lucario fit the niche of SpAtk Fighting type? I've had a few scenarios where I was happy I had him on the team.
Can they put mawile in yet so I can transfer mine with the legit gen 5 dream ball.
>>59182192I love it. I put my SM champ incineroar on my sunny day team, and I barely use it. It males my opponents put Sneasler out first 100% of the time, and my fire tauros zen headbutts the living shit out of them.
>>59182217it doesn't accomplish anything. i faced against umbreons in singles and all they do is just waste their own time
>>59182228I corrected myself you fucking asshole
>>59182202It's not quite the same when you can't spam drill rush and kill 3 fuckers with the same move in a FFA.
>>59182202I've seen 2 or 3. My mega aggron just walled them and 1 shot with body press
I'm still mad at how many mons they cut but leave in fucking garbage like Incineroar, Sneasler and the Bridge Dragon
GET ME OUT OF GREAT BALL 1 PLEASE
>>59182290>Have the perfect opportunity to give a shitload of utility mons that incineror makes obsolete a chance to shine>Nah fuck it here's incinerorFucking gamefreak
>>59182244Personally I could see infernape and Lucario both filling the niche on more offensively oriented teams, pretty sure both get nasty plot + vacuum wave and infernape also offers a spread option in hate wave
>>59182192
>>59182294Achieve skill
>>59182290I genuinely think that they left in a lot of staples from S/V just to "ease the newcomers in" to a Mega environment, not realizing that these fucking cryptids are stronger than like 85% of the shitmon megas out there.
>>59182294What are you playing?
>>59182304Love this annoying fucking giraffe
>>59182315LucarioGarchompMeowscaradaGreninjaHippowdonGengar
>>59182334That doesn't really answer the question.
>>59182338I guess I'm at the point where I need an actual wincon is that what you're saying? I've just been battling by feel this entire time
>Wolfe hit Rank 1 on Ladder with Mega Scovillain ENTER
>others brag about placing no 1 with meta teams>Wolfe does it with fucking ScovillainOh no no no... Maybe he really is the goat...
I HATE SNEASLER I HATE SNEASLER I HATE SNEASLERWHO THE FUCK INVENTED DIRE CLAWIMAGINE BEING A FUCKING PROGRAMMER AT GAME FREAK AND THINKING "Yeshu, dhisu ruksoo abauto raito" AND THEN IT GOES FURTHER ON TO SOME FUCKING TESTER WHO'S LIKE "Rooksu goodu to meu"AND THEN THEY SEE THAT IT WAS FUCKING RETARDED AND ARE LIKE"Justo chengi a fewu varuzu, 30%, berri baransu!"NONO YOU FUCKING IDIOTS
>>59182343You probably don't have the skills to build your own team for now, borrow a team that seems interesting to you and preferably one that's relatively straight-forward.>but I want to build my own teamThat would be taking things backward, learn the fundamentals first.
>>59181836mega dragonite is awful..
Which pokemon should I try to get off Home GTS for when the roster in this game expands?
>>59182192Im starting to like Sneasler and I dont know how to feel about this.
>>59182356Not to downplay Wolfe's skill or the achievement of reaching rank 1 so quick but mega scovillain is hardly weak, it's quite meritorious in fact
>>59182348how? no seriously how, ive been trying to make this guy work and nothing on his moveset clicks for me
>opponent leads with t-tar>later sends out m-dragonite??? But why?
>>59182400He posted the moveset (Protect, Overheat, Leech Seed, Rage Powder) but not the EV spread so I guess we'll have to wait for whatever video he recorded the ladder footage for
>>59182400It's obviously a high skill ceiling Pokemon. Guaranteeing a burn on anything that touches it is incredibly strong in theory, and just needed time to figure out how to build around and play it optimally.Anyway his set is Overheat/Leech Seed/Rage Powder/Protect.
>>59182202I used it to get to Master Ball on day two because I needed a substitute for Mega Metagross on the rain team I had prepared ahead of time. It's "okay." I dropped the team later because it wasn't keeping up with the meta.
>>59182414>>59182417What's his team looking like? Is he using generic pics like Sneasler, Incineroar etc or actually building his whole team around supporting Mega Scovillain?
>hydro miss>hydro missSigh, it's one of those days
Any Gatrfags manage to get that thing to work?
>>59182426With Floette falling out of favor lately maybe it'll find a niche but it still hates matching up into Scarfchomp and that thing's everywhere on high ladder.
>>59182391well he's the first to do it and maybe he'll popularize scovillain. or maybe sco will fall back into irrelevancy soon and it will only have been wolfman who made it work.
>lost to shellsmash poultergeistI know it's supposed to be a Baton lead but holy shit I got fucking clapped by a fucking teapot
>>59181885Cutting offensive items like the Choice items, LO, and offensive pinch berries is fine for a format they want to be "low power." The problem is they cut key defensive items like the Covert Cloak, Clear Amulet, Assault Vest, and Safety Goggles, so some strategies just have little to no counterplay right now. Like, you're not going to bring your grass type into the sun matchup to block Venusaur's sleep powder and without goggles on a fire mon, there's nothing you can do about it other than like Overcoat Kommo-O?
so many hyped up megas end up falling to the sideway for the usual comfort picks... it's over...
I thought wide guard was just a straight upgrade from protect. I should've read it more carefully.
>>59182424All we got was this pic. He said the vid's probably coming next Saturday though
>>59181946Gens 6 and 7 had that. There were three queues; singles, doubles, and special. The special rules changed every season with various bans and restrictions. One season it was inverse battles.
>>59182475YGO Master Duel also does that (ranked, casual, special + sometimes tournament format for worlds qualifiers). Every competitive game should have 3 formats. For Champions it'd be singles, doubles, special format that rotates.
>>59182428I’m dying internally. Gamefreak, fuck you. It’s so utterly simple to make things good and they still somehow fuck it up.
Do (You) have any titles on any of your Pokemon? I'm replaying Colosseum to get a few with both exclusive titles.
>>59182542What ones are Colosseum exclusive?
>>59182542I haven't traded any of my gen 3 up to gen 9. I think at best I have some gen 4 in gen 5.
>>59182542I'm playing with Liko's Meowscarada they distributed in SV.
>>59182391Yeah, it’s also one of the few redirection users isn’t it?
>>59182552The Triumphant and The 100x Victorious
>>59182542>tfw your Premium Ball Gardevoir is a m*le
>>59182542I have some marked shinies from scarlet and Scizor from gen 6 with the champion ribbons and veteran title from the Maison. I have a shiny shadow Ursraring, shiny Quilava and shiny Dewott I just need to get the Tree Master ribbon on before I send them to Home for the switch ribbons too
>>59182542I have a Greninja I got from the ranch with "the Sociable". It's perfect because I named him Quiet
>skipped SV>finally see Tinkaton's statsthis lil guy ain't meant to attack is it?
>>59182626Nope
>>59182542Bunches
>>59182564Neat. Now I have a good reason to replace the tutorial Tyranitar with my Colosseum one.
>>59182631Tyranitar, Sneasler, and Dragonite are the main ones I want. I think I deleted my Colosseum save and I didn't transfer the Tyranitar out, so I have to replay the game for one pokemon.
>>59182626The gimmick is that it's weak but uses its hammer for an insanely strong signature move
>>59182636That's a horrible gimmick. GF buff my future wife.
What's the better choice for Mega Evo on a Sandstorm team, Tyranitar up front or Garchomp in the back? I usually lead T-tar and Corviknight or Excadrill. Actually I've also found Midnight Lycanroc to be pretty good with a Choice Scarf and No Guard Stone Edges. Same with Kleavor if I can pull off a tailwind. I'm at Ultra 2 btw
>>59182650TTar so you can reapply the weather on demand if it gets contested.
>not a single Storm Drain user in the gameSomeone wanted Basc to be broken huh
>>59182016I made it to Masterball 3 with a rain team. My "core four" are 1.Pelipper w/ focus sash. tailwind, wide guard, hurrican, weatherball2.Archaludon (stamina) w/ leftovers. electro shot, flash cannon, dragon pulse, protect3.Basculegion male (adaptability) w/ mystic water. wave crash, aqua jet, lest respects, protect4.Mega Dragonite (multiscale) w/ dragoniteite. hurricane, thunder, dragon pulse, extreme speedI run Milotic (competitive) w/ sitrus berry. scald, ice beam, protect, dealers choice (i run life dew, and basicall never click it). Milotic replaces arch if i see sneazler and basc if i see incin (also arch if i see both)I've tried choice scarf politoed running weatherball, ice beam, earth power, psychic and found it underwhelming. like it 2 hits opposing arch's w/ earth power in the mirror but in every other situation pelipper is just better (hurricane 1 shots sinestra and whimsicott, also sneazler)
>>59182676wow a rain team? with archaludon AND basc?? you're such a big brian gigachad anon, how do you come up with such incredible strats???
>>59182202Regular Excadrill is better
>>59182688you don't get it anon, his archaludon has stamina instead of stalwart. it's very big brain.
>>59182688AND Milotic? The metaGOD is here... Top it off with a Sneasler or Incin for ogod measure.
>heh, yeah I could be a top player if I just played a strong team I just don’t want to :)
>>59182688>>59182707>>59182713lmao
>>59182713....this meta is so fucking cooked
>kill trick room setter>they just give up
>>59182724Yes? That's how it works. You don't get to the top using only favorites like Victreebel, Meganium, Mega Manectrik and Pikachu. You have to have a team that makes sense.
Is home trading back yet?
>>59182737if they're not in a trick room they may as well be in a dick room
>>59182450Its situational for sure, but wide guard can be better than protect if both opponents go for spread moves cuz it protects both mons and the partner still gets to attack. I do find that trick only works once per battle tho
>>59182676I'm running a similar team but with Mega Gengar instead of Dragonite. I almost feel dirty for using it since I'm just copying what I hear is meta, but I heard rain teams are a good way to learn how to play competitive pokemon.
>guy posts a meta team>people start seething This is why you're hardstuck pokeball
Kinda funny to see some big smogon youtubers walk back shit talking all the new megas after playing official formats.
stop talking about yourself in 3rd person
is castform the most outright shitmon they let into the roster?
>>59182771>theorycrafting doesn't work in practicehow many years will it take for them to learn?
>>59182764and how would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning?
>>59182785Uh castform is good though. You're just not a good player.
>>59182785Galarian Stunfisk, Mega Audino
>>59182785Probably only on the premise that Arbok and Luxray get intimidate and even Watchog has super fang. Audino is probably the biggest shitmon with a form or mega attached to it
just pulled my second shiny since launch, how common are these fucking things?
>>591828191/4096 as far as I know. Lucky you.
>>59182828The odds feel much better than that for Champions.
>>59182542Shiny Male Lopunny from Gen 4 with some Contest Ribbons and Sinnoh Champ Ribbon. I don't really use those much tho. He's called Bon-Chan The Great Friend
>>59182626Hammer is powerful enough as a signature move but not spammable. It’s still a good pokemon
Redpill me on Farigiraf. What's the best spread to run on him to keep my Mega Garde healthy.
>>59182348>>59182356I like him in singles but the omnipresence of Charizard is a problem
>>59182861He exists to click trick room and not much more right now. All the incineroars running throat chop doesn't help when that's how 99% of them hit a dark type.
>>59182435It’s easy to forget that thing hits harder than Gengar
I hate this stupid ugly fish
>>59182871He also Twin-Beams Sneasler.
>>59182861Good typing, immune to priority, has a signature move that can break through sash, etc. generally you're gonna run full bulk sets but there is value in dropped defense investment for special attack to grab surprise KOs. Basically dual stab trick room and a support move is gonna be your go to sets, I prefer helping hand but ig protect or another support move could work. For item, imo your best is mental herb to beat encore and taunt but I could see colbur Berry also being high value
>full speed, no defense Sturdy ArchaludonAh, nice try.
>>59182785The Unova Monkeys
>>59182919They have Fake Out, don't they?
Shitterball ranks has so many sandstorm teams lmao
>>59182924Incineroar has fake out.
>>59182936Still makes them less of a shitmon than Castform
>>59182919the monke and their pledge moves will be meta again when they bring back triple battles
>>59182174I just hold off on mega evolving it when staring down sneasler and hurricane it after swapping in pelipper I've done this like 12 times now they fake out the dragonite (who has inner focus, so he doesn't get flinched) and then just die for their transgressions
>>59182644It's quite nice in singles as a support mon at least
>>59182542I've got a thunderstruck shiny archaludon, a sodden pelipper, a cloud-watching shiny master sinistcha, and the most cursed, but kind of fitting; an easily flustered incineroar
So is this what I should expect once they start adding more mons to the game? Any of these have nice shinies?
>>59182889sucker punch it
>>59182975The whole Porygon line has great shinies.
>>59182975flutter is like the easiest shiny to get in the game, about the same as normal if not a little worse. get yourself a nice title on it. chi-yu is locked with an event only one but looks amazing. gold isn't even differentursaluna is red, I think it looks goodlockedblue dragon headlockedabout the same but i like itlockedlockedlockeda bit orangerawesome shiny in mega, ugly in baseevent locked, looks badcool, annoying to get on switch 1 with frame dropsevent locked, couldn't tell youpretty cooloriginal zapdos colors, looks great imo but event/pokemon go random encounter lockedsolid, it's bluei like it a lot, swaps the back and front colorsgreat ball shroomlooks swaguglylockedall silver except the yellow, kinda averagei couldn't tell you which is whichnot enough differencelockedbland greenbarely a differenceyellow, nothing specialswagthis alabaman wants to be free, get her in a cute ball10/10 best shiny from the new monsjust more silver, boring but okreally like the darker colors and bluedarker horns, about the same but cute none the lesslooks greatyou can't tell better colors but not a huge differencekoraidon is the best event shiny
>>59182202Anyone with a brain knew it would be a flop once the ability was revealedDoubling Speed+an Item is significantly better value than a nominal boost to damage and defense+sometimes hitting through protectUrshifu was broken because the moves it would use to bypass protect 99% of the time were super strong and always crit AND he could use an item with them and had no opportunity cost. It's all that combined that made it broken, Drill only gets the benefit of hitting through protect which ends up not being worth it.
Test
So many rain teams, what's the counterplay?
>>59183008Carry Tork or Tar in da back
>>59182975I can't wait until my wife gets in the game
>>59182975Reg F would be way different if tera wasn't available, like yeah these are really powerful and would still probably be the lost used, but the uncertainty of tera really made them what they were.
>>59182453>>59182424I battled a team in casual that led with MScovillain and Dragapult. You can't fake out either one, MScovillain rage powders and you're just screwed if you brought physical attackers
>>59183008wait for ol reliable
>>59183008Bring your own Thunder and Hurricane
>>59183035sadly meganium weatherball
>>59182785Maybe Ariados?
>>59182924Fake Out and insane mixed movesets. You can put Superpower, Gunk Shot, Acrobatics, and Leaf Storm on the same pokemon. Imagine.
stalling fatnigger snorlax player kill yourself. just a waste of 5 mins
I'm trying to do a gimmicky hazards team with some bulky pokemon. since we're missing ferrothorn who's the best spike setter right now? toxic spikes seem pointless there's so many poison types
Does any one have a funny picture of belibolt?
what's the best Mega Scovillain counter right now? He's going to be everywhere on the ladder soon. Do I have to succumb and use Zard Y+Talonflame or some shit??
>>59183060Best I have
>>59182785Castform maybe slightly better than Watchog? Castform in Rain with Weather Ball/Thunder/Hurricane surely has more value than Watchog. Surely.>>59183043Ariados has Sticky Web, Toxic Thread (exclusive and buffed) and Shadow Sneak/Sucker Punch. It has merit as a sashed lead. It's leagues above Castform/Watchog/Unova Monkeys.
>>59183066Special attacker with Poison, Gengar, Glimmora.
heh, ran into my first time limit draw. Didn't know the rest of the turn still plays out after the timer drops to zero. They should really take into account how many Pokémon each player has at the end, because I ended up KO'ing two of his mons, leaving the score 3 to 1.
>>59183066M Gengar because he doesn't actually lose speed races to random shit. M.Glimmora 101 speed is actually a huge detriment.
>>59183075true I guess I can just tank the burn
>>59183080I kind of like it because you used to get a lot of really gay stall teams in SV that never actually did anything besides click recover and get up rocks
>>59183081I transferred my Gengar out a few days ago so I didn't even think about it when I was looking through my box
>>59183080Beast wars chad
>>59182785That's Watchog. Castform is a shitmon but it's a shitmon with a wholly unique gimmick.Watchog only has Hypnosis and Super Fang access going for it, but being frail AND slow AND having no offense and useless abilities (two of which that have been modified to do the exact same thing) do nothing for it
>>59183008Blastoise/Vanilluxe "Snow" team.It's more an Anit-Meta team though. You mainly spam Water Spout with Blastoise-M and Blizzard with Vanilluxe. Snow is also nice to shut down enemy weather.
>>59183037>Berry>Gyro ball
>>59183008Trick Room?
I hit ultra shitter 2 netdecking. I was hardstuck greatball 2-3 before with my homebrew. I can't cook.
parting shot on magic bounce haterene to stop trick room is funny every single time
I got a shiny altaria whats the cope set? Am I just running bad sylveon minus a mega slot? I'm tempted to shove it into trick room
How many of you competed in a tourney and what is the highest you placed?
What do you guys think of the presentation in Champions?
>yea I'm countering the meta I'm tired of it>the 'anti-meta' team itself:
>>59183119what were you running before and what changes did you make?
>>59183135Altaria?
I'm new to Pokemon Doubles. What are some Mons to support my Sand Team?Currently got>T-tar Mega>Support Whisicott for SDef coverage>Offensive Garchomp because >sand>Support Incineroar because >IncineroarThe other spots are just shit tier spots I can't decide on. Any tips on good options? Getting bad pulls from the Lineup
>>59183135that ninetales better be moonblast dazzling gleam imprison or else youre a pussy
>>59183142excadrill
Allright guys, Game Freak has tasked (You) to come up with some fun regulations/formats for VGC. In this example, all mons are available.My own example Regulations;>Regulation Kanto>Regulation Johto>Regulation HoennetcWhat about (You)?
>>59183137Used to run Mega Feraligatr with 2 obvious picks, Incin and Whimsicott. He's not slow enough for trickroom so tailwind it is. Then played Pelipper Basculgeion Archaludon. Turns out if you just go full rain team and dump the Feraligatr for a Dragonite it works a lot better and easier. Trying to force Feraligatr did nothing. All my wins were off of bridgeman and fish hard carrying.
So how does champion rank work I just got to master ball
>>59183156top 300 players world wide by elo
>>59183137>>59183153Also I removed Whimsicott because I was like Pelipper just does it better for my team. I had it for when I didn't go rain but... with this comp why not go rain all the time.
>>59183147baby cup. only first stages of 3-stage lines
>>59183161Fuck yeah, Little Cup was always my jam on the Stadiun games.
>>59183142I like sinistcha for redirect/heal + fighting immune switch in for t-tar. Trick room too.If you want to be more unortodox (unlikely based on your other picks), I've been getting surprisingly good results with runerigus with a ttar that has trick room/willowisp/ally switch/curse.I still haven't tested in game its kinda niche, but if you smack runerigus with a weak contact move on ttar they swap abilities and reset the sand, ally swapping into fighting moves is hilarious too
feels like every doubles team is just 3 or 4 staples and then your glorpo shitto mon you wanna try and make work
I've climbed to ultra with passimian/whimsicott lead to have access to prankster coaching, but I can't get the main sweeper and 4th slots consistent enough to secure wins.cott is running max Spe and SpA with encore/protect/memento/psychic and sim is running max Spe and Atk with coaching/protect/upper hand/close combatI've been getting prankster over more often than not and securing surprise kills on sneasler, incin, arch, and kingambit leads by changing up my opening, and sacking cott to charizards in the sun tends to work out too.Problem is, I've tried various combinations of stuff like mega golurk, palafin, and dragapult to receive coaching with supporting sets like rage powder volcarona for redirecting, aurora veil ninetales for bulk, oranguru even for instruct shenanigans, but this half of the game keeps falling apart either due to thudding into the perfect counter, or the support mon not being able to keep up.It's been fun working out the kinks, but I'm reaching the limits of my brainpower, could anything make coaching more workable or should I finally scrap it?
>>59183158Oh damn imma be chilling in masterball then
>>59183170You take that back about my mega ampharos
>>59183170And it wo- it don't work aaaaaaaaa
What is the tier list of the best compositions are move spread?
>>59183071It’s something, thank you.
add paradoxes
>>59183170nah, my team is SIX staples
is sinistcha AND giraffe in the same trick room comp overkill? I think they're both neat
>>59183245You should have more than one setter anyway.
>>59183245cup is nice as a second setting since switching it in will heal whoever was doing work originally while it sets up again
Traded an extra Floette for a shiny Roaring Moon and now I want this thing in champions so I can actually use it....
>>59183279Will be a long time from now.
>>59183250What’s a good trick room comp?
>>59183279Very nice, did you have to do that grind twice to get the extra Floette?
Prankster rain dance into charizard y is funny
>>59183286no I just traded a shitmon shiny on Home for the Floette and traded that for the Roaring MoonBest use of a Garbodor ever
>>59183286I hope nobody is grinding for floette when you can get it with a twitch tradebot in about 30 seconds. It even has a set ID so impossible to tell if they are genned.
>>59182400We can only hazard some guesses, but it does look like a stallmon or stall set. Lots of switching, incin and another fake out or intimidate mon, light screen against special attackers, maybe rotom wash?
Genuinely what the fuck do you do with Audino
>>59183303championonlybros... I can't trade...
Why aren't No Guard Machamp and Lycanroc used more often?
>>59183332champs only is a meme at least you should use home too, you can trade for mons on that
>>59183339erm phone home? how do I get mons on that I haven't owned a pokemon game since x/y
>>59183336It's not as strong of an ability as it first seems when everyone else can also hit you 100% of the time.
>>59183341pokemon go
>>59183346...this works? wtf?
>>59183336desu, machamp should theoretically be a bomb ass trick room sweeper. It packs a punch but it might just be too frail to hang, Fighting is kind of bad with all the fairies and ghosts around.
>>59183348candies are annoying but on the plus side you'll probably have a Melmetal ready too
>>59183348Yup, you can also wondertrade rando ones and hope to get something good to use or see if you can trade it for something specific
>Opponent's Froslass and my Ttar mega evolve>Snow gets overwritten by sand>Aurora Veil fails
Is there a decent team aggregator for VGC besides pikalytics?
Rate my sun team
>>59183410Sleep Powder is so gay
>>59183410Bretty solid
>>59183348Yeah, I’ve been trading starters for stuff I need. It’s actually kino
>>59183410john cena potato salad ass team. you probably want some speed control though
>>59183424I’m probably gonna just use my phone for Pokemon and not get a switch 2 kek
>>59183410Is Supreme Overlord or Defiant more recommended for Kingambit?
Champions does not have a size checker built in, correct? For example, if I have an XXL Steelix from Go, move it to Home, then put it in Champions, it would not get ‘the Great’ title as only SV has a size checker to give that ribbon, right?
>>59183436Sizes are a thing but I dunno about that
>>59183434Supreme Overlord is probably not as great in 3v3 but even with one 'mon down he's pretty nasty
>>59183434always defiant.
>>59183441Yeah, I know that. I was hoping to see if any of my stuff that can't go to SV was hiding a mark from me.
>>59183434Defiant is probably betterdefiant gives you +1 attack stage (+50%) when it triggers and can trigger multiple times, while supreme overlord gives you +10% per dead teamate when gambit comes in so realistically you're not getting more than 10-20% and only when you keep him in the back
>>59183436Correct, you need to show it to the size checker in SV to give it the Jumbo Mark that grants that title
>>59183139cloud nine
>>59183453*I should add as an addendum, the +1 is only when it triggers on intimidate which is the most common use case. Any other stat drop puts it way above supreme overlord
>>59183453Defiant is +2, it's just that the more common way to trigger it is intimidate so you end up at +1.
>>59183460Unfortunate, then I will keep my piles of unmarked stuff until gen 10 at least. Thanks
>>59183434Defiant means you love getting intimidated.
>>59182954I mention a different ability just because as a pure Flying it wouldn't have a 4x weaknesses, and without that Multiscale just doesn't provide as much 'value for money'. So I thought the most natural fit then would just to be to stick with its other base form ability.But if you wanted to be creative/exotic, I thought Guts or Marvel Scale would be interesting while not being out-of-sync thematically with its design. Guts would obviously boost its Att to surpass even its 145 SpAtt. Imagine the offensive possibilities. Alternatively, Marvel Scale could turn it into a very durable tank with dangerous Body Press potential.
I hit 1900 elo am I good yet
>>59183521idk
>>59182542Most of my Pokemon have the great friend title aka the title you get for having max affection on your Pokemon.
Fuck forfeiting and fuck your cringe strats
>>59183551I don't wanna waste our time. If I have no way out it's a surrender
>use Maushold's Feint into Talonflame to break Gale Wings before it can Tailwind>Aerodactyl outspeeds and knocks it out with Rock SlideIs what I should have done. But I'm an idiot and locked in my team before I remembered this strat was one of the reasons I started running Feint to begin with.
>>59183556Yeah this pretty muchWhen you're not fucking doing anything but just sitting there dying, just leave and find a new gameI'm here to play, not get jerked around
if you are cringe I am going to waste your time
> dire claw hits> inflicts sleep> ggGetting tired of this, what counters that fucking thing
>>59183630Aero outspeeds and kills through sash with dual wingbeat
>>59183630My dire claw has procced 1 status effect out of the 20 or so times I've used it today. And it was poison. Fake 30%!!!
>>59183637There are certainly sneasler sets that are built to survive that annoyingly enough. Not to mention it can miss.
>>59183630https://www.serebii.net/abilitydex/insomnia.shtml
So has Tailwind Whimsicott fallen off?
If something that's already had its type changed with Protean Mega Evolves, it gets its original types back, right?I ask because my opponent's Gardevoir Traced my Meowscarada's Protean, then hit my Charizard with STAB Thunderbolt
>>59182374...in opposite world.
>>59183245The only problem is sharing ghost dark weakness
>First time using sun team>Opponent takes forever to lock in team and during each turnThey know
>>59183695too fragile without tera fire
>>59183695Sneedler is just too common. Also, Whimsicot using tailwind is too telegraphed and the opponent can work around it
>>59183722I wonned
Weird, my daily missions didn't refresh. Or am I going crazy?
>>59183119Same here. I tried rain but eventually got to master ball with Delphox, Sinischa, Garchomp, Sneasler, Incineroar and Kommo-o for the rare situation he isn’t countered All things considered, I understand why they didn’t put in too much items that boost damage, since having too much OHKO turns would scare away new players
>>59183775Past midnight? I haven't checked but they probably reset at like 5am or so, that's how most games with dailies count days.
I learned that you can spam wide guard
>>59183775Same thing happened to me
>>59183791It's saying the next refresh is in 23 hours which should indicate the last reset was an hour ago but they're all already checked out.
>>59183699Any type changes pre mega are undone post Mega. Saved my Meganium from eating an SE Parabolic charge from Bellibolt recently.
>>59183739>>59183742Hmm. Maybe Aero, then?
Are bots still around to help with going up rank? I've spent too much time building teams for singles and doubles that I barely play the game.
>>59183841Yes in pokeball or great ball, i thinkMaybe this game is not for you. You shower in VP in this game, and resources to plan out teams in this game is plentiful. How does it take more than 5 minutes after getting your mon to make it battle ready?
Thoughts on h-arcanine in a sand team?
>>59182294>>59182315>>59182338>>59182373I GOT OUT OF GREAT BALL THANKS FOR THE ADVICE
>>59183899Grats.
>>59181879>>59182174I'm mad that most of the new megas have either poor stat distributions or useless abilities, like hell if they wanted to make dragonite a special attacker they should have give it an ability that actually works well as an special attacker like contrary,sheer force,soul heart or just a new ability like meganium and feral got
>>59183915But Dragonite is one of the better megas? Multiscale is crazy dood
>>59183915agreed on that last part at least. We need more bespoke abilities. Being a one trick pony like Hawlucha is fine. Being utterly useless is unforgivable
>>59183695No.People just pair it with Sneasler who has Quick Claw to stop it from being interrupted.T. Someone with Sneasler and Aerodactyl lead to fuck up the black face cottonball.
>>59182183>incompetent devs make a competitive liver service game>it sucks to play it as a competitive game
>>59183868Because I'm breeding and EV training them in other games to save VP
>>59183896Redpill me on what it brings to the table in a non-Sandstorm team.
>>59183939Anon, EV training takes one battle's worth of VP, and was also the most time-consuming part of training a Pokemon before.Fix everything else before you transfer it in, sure, but for the love of god, just do the EVs in Champions.
>>59183775I usually have to completely close and reopen the game for missions to refresh
>>59183953>was also the most time-consuming part of training a Pokemon before.Before they uncapped the vitamins use yes.
>>59183926>use fake out>breaks multiscale
>>59183939Arent you saving like 2 grand of VP at max, assuming bad abilities, No EVs, and no moves? We get like 500 VP daily and idk how much in weeklies.If you are normal stingy, just do everything BUT the EVs, since those are the most cancerous ones to do, unless you are doing it in ZA where you have infinite cash and drugs
>>59183956Right you are, I never had the opportunity to notice that until now.
>>59183899welcome to hell
I spent 40k vp looking for garchomp, still nothing
>>59183973should've picked the electric rat starter
>>59183973Just ask bro.I have a garchomp with me, send something on Home GTS to trade and ill just give it to ya
>>59183973You probably shouldn't empty your VP wallet for that.
>finally made it to masterball tierI did it bros
>>59183990The game begins.
>>59183990Now climb the ladder to champion rank like the rest of us. I'm personally trying to find the right combination but the meta is constantly shifting.
>>59183973damn, I can’t believe someone here is more retarded than me
>>59183995say one retarded thing you have done
>>59183999I burned all my vp recruiting stuff I could’ve gotten on Go
>>59183973I've been rolling for Aerodactyl a lot, still haven't gotten it. I could just smash rocks in X/Y and transfer it but that's a pain
>>59183994Is it elo dependant or rank dependant?I don't think I can get top 500.Might just play fuck around with other teams now instead of just relying on mega gengar, duraladon and basculegion go brrrr featuring bird (b)rain to carry me.
>>59184008Its elo dependent and from what I can tell, its top 300.
>>59184008>I don't think I can get top 500It's top 300.
>>59184005Unless you have a home subscription you'll probably want to recruit stuff to free up the limited basic home slots anyway, if floette is any indicator of what's to come then you'll need the space more than vp that you can easily grind
>>59184014>>59184015Yeah I'm not reaching that this season if ever.First time playing a ladder that isn't just playing a few games of randbats singles at work.
>>59184018I’m kinda hoping we get a lot more space on champions and it eventually becomes purchasable via vp or something
I think of it like this>have all the gamesthen box spaces doesnt matter. Because mons are so easily trained, just send them back to ZA or SV and there is no need to worry about Home limitations, unless you worry about clutter (understandable)>dont have ANY gamesthen you are kind of in a pickle. You can get all the mons just fine via trading, but the moment a season changes and that kingambit is no longer legal for the season, he is just rotting in Home. At some point you have to clear house and throw them away, though at the current limit, as long as you have 1/2 teams per season, itll take maybe 5+ seasons for this to be a real problem
>have taunt on sneasler>forget I have taunt on sneasler>use fake out on the giraffe(i forgor about armor tail)>he uses ally switch thinking I'm gonna taunt>thinks I don't have taunt since I used fake out instead of taunt and thinks he can safely trick room now>remember that I have taunt >taunt the giraffe >decimate his slow ass TR team with my other monsMy IQ is so low I looped back into being a genius.
>>59184026I wouldn't count on it when it's the number one reason to pay for the membership.
>>59184034continuing on, I think this is mainly a fuck you to phone only players when it releases. For people who wanna get into comp but still havent bought a switch/2 for one reason or another, those are the main customers who ILCA is targeting because they simultaneously dont have any mons to transfer over, and also dont have any box spaces to spare
>>59184037eh, you see a lot of freemium games eventually lean into that. I’ll stick to that hope unless Gen 10 contains like 95% of the dex in which case I might buy it as a storage medium
>>59183940Scarfed head smash, farigiraf helping hand. Pray you don't miss.
what should i get with my second eternal floette?
>>59184026nah bro once the new regulation comes around the premium battle pass will "conveniently" come with storage space
>>59183971Just lost and won my first two matches. This is truly hell
Is Empoleon a decent answer to Incineroar and Sneasler? Besides the weakness to fighting he would put a stop to a scarved poison attack. Competetive would give him a stat boost on Incineroars Intimidate. I wonder if he'd work better bulky or speedy.
>tfw I forgot to respect the azumarill todayI'm not even mad. I hadn't faced off against one in a dogs age. That egg shaped fucker can do some damage.
>>59184035fake story, real trick room players would have forfeited as soon as the word "taunt" appeared onscreen
>>59184112Pick something a shiny from here I guesshttps://limitlessvgc.com/pokemon?rank=points&show=100&page=1Or just pick a shiny you like. I went with a shiny Roaring Moon. I only own Black 2 and Y so I'm thinking of rng manipping shinies to trade up and exchange for Floettes for whatever until this lasts.
>>59184184Wouldn’t it just get punched by Sneasler?
how'd I do anons?milotic @ mystic waterquiet / competitive / 32 HP / 22 Def / 12 SpA- scald- ice beam- weather ball- protectaggron @ aggronitebrave / sturdy / 32 HP / 32 Atk / 2 SpD- rock slide- iron head- body press- cursesinitscha @ leftoverssassy / heatproof / 32 HP / 11 SpA / 23 SpD- matcha gotcha- hex- strength sap- trick roomkingambit @ dark glassesbrave / defiant / 32 HP / 32 Atk / 2 SpD- kowtow cleave- iron head- sucker punch- swords dancetorkoal @ charcoalquiet / drought / 32 HP / 32 SpA / 2 SpD- eruption- solar beam- earth power- weather balloranguru @ mental herbrelaxed / inner focus / 32 HP / 32 Def / 2 SpD- rock slide- instruct- yawn- trick room
>>59184184>sneasler>scarf
if mega star raptor uses close combat, is that a falcon punch or a falcon kick?
>half of my games with audino + skeledirge they just solo the opposing teamAlly Swap, Protect, Wish, and Yawn are just too strong.
>>59184200He solar beamed my basculegion to death that first turn with mega-'nium so he probably thought he could still win with that lead.
>>59184200>he doesn't know about mental herb
>>59184257What's your Skeledirge looking like?
HOLY Mega Aggron is BASED. People are TREMBLING before the WALL. Physical attackers (such as "Sneasler", the menace!) HATE him! Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>>59182426He carried me to masterball. Trust the plan. Body slam instead of double edge though. Clear major threats before you bring him in. Sometimes he can lead and just wreck though. Used jolly. Full speed. Some spdef bulk and the res into atk. Dragon dance, liquidate, protect. Once you figure out you can take a thunderbolt from archaludon and other grass moves you laugh and dd in their face
KINGAMBIT MA GOAT WON ME SO MANY CLUTCH VICTORIES ALREADY
I have arrived in Master, brothershttps://files.catbox.moe/gcim6j.mp4I did not know that Sucker Punch negates other Suckers, that is phenomenal to knowhttps://files.catbox.moe/jo20eu.mp4
>>59184284>people bring cringegambit against my team>they learn that my dragonite has a funny tech move and a +2 boost doesn't mean shit if you're still getting hit by fake out
>>59184281Can I steal the team setup?
masterball 4 is good too bros... it's comfy to stay in...
made it to ultra 1...master tomorrow..
No one suspects the scaff Meowscarada
>>59184281I ran into a thunderbolt arch the other day and was curious what smack that trainer was smoking to think that's a good idea
I made it to masterball 4, my win rate is probably high but holy shit vgc is mentally taxing. At best i can only play 3-4 games a day. You cant derank to ultra ball right? If not im just gonna start learning how to play other teams
>>59184376I'm wondering what you need for master 1 since I'm at 2 rn
>>59184269I just copied a Smogon build.
>>59184305Congrats>I did not know that Sucker Punch negates other Suckers, that is phenomenal to knowWhen Priority moves tie it just boils down to speed and Dragapult flies circles around Kanga.
Espathra + Calm Mind + Baton pass into bulky Mega Dnite feels illegal sometimes
>sylveon solo's mega floetteyeah i am certain this thing is busted and everybody is sleeping on it, just hit masterball losing only 2 games the entire climb with my trickroom team. Initially i bought sylveon because it came with the aggron starter team and i had no other pokemon but soon learned to bring it to every game no exceptions. I am new to the game as well so it cant be all skill diff. I would like to say mega aggron was the carry with mega drampa the backup but i would be lying, it was a regular ass sylveon that was the carry the entire time.
>>59184408no it doesn't lmao
>>59184408how
>>59184408You must be getting lucky if this is what you're talking about
>>59184439NTA but psyshock?
>>59184408im just not seeing it>>59184440you mean on sylveon?
>>59184446Yeah, but I see that isn't much of an improvement
>when your opponent parting shots into MiloticHAHAHAHAHA
>>59184455>>59184455I know Intimidate is broken OP but I'm sick of all the pokemon that completely counter stat reductions. Can we ban Incineroar so I can use fucking Bug Buzz without being afraid of giving my opponent a free Swords Dance?
>>59184428>>59184439>>59184419>>59184446read it and weap losers, this is worst case as im guessing flotte fags run some speed EV's or nature and not just full hp/spa. I always have trickroom up but even without it sylveon always 2hits with hyper voice + hyperbeam while flotte needs 3 hits
Is mega scizor viable? I feel like giving it a shot
>>59184490I'll kneel if anybody picks up on it or you reach champion rank 1 btfoing Floetteniggers. Until then it's your niche pick that worked in ultraball. Though I think it'll be more Scovillain that'll be the anti-meta pick for Floette just because of Wolfey.
>>59184496I've been using it as my 2nd Mega to Delphox. It's been pretty good.
>>59184505i only faced 1 floettefag that sylveon got to hyperbeam into orbit, its more that sylveon does everything flotte does on a trickroom team but better and without using up your mega slot.
>don't bring garchomp because I see opposing garchomp and think everyone is going scarf dragon claw or something and going 50-50>just lead with it and suddenly win almost every timeoh, it was that easy
As I'm climbing up the ranks the one pokemon that keeps fucking me up hardcore is archaludon. Are there any good checks or hard counters for this thing?Matchagacha is also a faggot to deal with sometimes
>>59184490okay its theoretically possible.Can you elaborate on what did they do on the first turn? So turn one is Sylveon + ? vs Floette + ?. Somehow you managed to attack the floette twice, and set up trick room while the opponent just sits there?
>>59184490Ah, the Beam, I forgot about thatI should have figured since I'm a Heatwave/Weather Ball fag
>>59184526ah shit i forgot to attach the image if they calm minded turn 1.
>>59184514Yeah no I agree with that. On trick room teams you're never bringing gigaspeed Floette so Sylveon does the job better. But then you also have Primarina who has a less supportive moveset but has better coverage moves and is also fairy. At that point it's preference since they're both 60 speed.
I just spent 2600VP on a jacket
Played some jap name where I somehow managed to turn the game to my favor and would've probably won a battle of attrition. But then I mysteriously lost connection when that's never happened since day 1. It finally connects me back to the match and my sylveons there playing for me and they end up killing her and I lose. I'd report it if reports ever actual do anything lol
>>59184538based>>59183973cringe
>>59184521Body Press, any super effective special attackerI hate sinistcha though, I'm already using underpowered mons and guessing protect/rage powder wrong usually costs me the game. It's dumb that it gets a healing spread move that burns too...
>>59184521nothing actually one shots it. it will get off an electro shot or steel beam on your ass. and if you double into it and it protects (or even if it doesn't) you have a new issue with tailwind set up from pelipper.
>>59184538I spent 10k+ to get out of the default outfit. Now I look like a normal ass main game trainer with a cap. A little too much black though. Not like there's much to spend vp on with Home transfers and the tickets you get from buying the starter pack.
>>59184496It wins games if it's supported well, and a lot of trainers don't know what to do with it. I run it as a secondary on my rain team. If I see floette I bring it. Just lead incin/whatever fake out thing + it vs their lead. Fake out, swords dance. There's been several times where I've gotten two swords dances up on a proper predict and they just give up.
What does Primarina do? I'm looking at the training menu and there's nothing remarkable here
>>59184558Liquid Voice Hyper Voice, Life Dew, Moonblast, Calm Mind
>>59184551>nothing actually oneshots it It doesn't have assault vest. My secret tech is focus blast M dragonite. Archaludon? Incineroar? M-Aggron or Kingambit? Just gone. I'd tell you what happens if you miss, but I haven't yet. >>59184561Calm Mind Moon Blast Hyper Voice ProtectOne calm mind makes it hit exceedingly hard.
>>59184526this was late in the battle as he left floette in the back till last. both floette and sylveon were worn down a bit and trick room just ended after sylveon KO'd 3 pokemon while it was up. floette had calm mind up and sylveon didn't, i expected to just wear it down more with sylveon and finish with my aggron in the back but it wasn't necessary as sylveon sent the flower fag into orbit with hyperbeam after tanking a calm mind boosted dazzling gleam like it was nothing.
>>59184564I get cucked so often by 70% missing there is no way I wanna try this.
>>59184561Why Liquid Voice? Sparkling Aria does the same thing as Hyper Voice and you could run torrent
>>59184564>Focus MissI get fucked enough with Rock Slide and Triple Axel misses. I don't want to deal with 70.
>>59184575because that damages your allies
>Invalidates your entire fucking strategyNothing personel, kid
>>59184584TRANS BRIDGE RIGHTS
I got completely outplayed the other day and I can't get over itturn 1>opp leads gengar incineroar>I lead oranguru milotic>milotic gets +2 SpA from the intimidate>gengar megas and PERISH SONGS>incineroar fakes out milotic>oranguru sets trick roomturn 2>opp double protects>I can't switch or do anythingturn 3>I need to kill gengar so I double into that slot>gengar hard swaps>I kill whatever shitter comes in>incineroar parting shots>mega gengar comes back in incineroar's place>incineroar comes back in the dead shitter's placeturn 4>opp double protects>I diefeels bad to die with a +6 milotic
>opponent's team is walled by my corv>bring it, set it up to +6>fast forward to the last turn, +6 corv vs +6 h-goodra>all I need to press is roost to survive a potential crit>obviously, he crits me this instant and I loseI'm never getting to master at this rate, every time I'm one win away I get assaulted by random bullshit
>>59184583>>59184575Aria also cures burns for whatever reason
>>59184521Meganium. Run Earth Power.
>>59184588i saw wolfey do that to someone late in a big tournament
I'm guessing the Champions format is an unhinged mess
>>59184611Five of us watching Excadrill soloing the opponent's team
>>59184611sandstorm is easily the weakest weather team comp in champions but aside from that yeah, champions meta is a bit wonky right now. it is 'evolving' but overall just keeps the staples and rotates out some mons here and there.
>>59184611I wouldn't say so. Most of the best stuff is pretty reasonable in why it's good, and while there are a lot of annoying things, there's noting downright stupid busted like Flutter infesting the ladder rn.
how do you see your winrate? is there not any site that tracks w/l stats?
fucking retarded subhuman umbreon players dragging every BSS game to turn 50
>>59184624Is it? It feels so much stronger than Rain Dance.
>>59184624I could benefit greatly from the item to make sandstorm last longer. Oh well
>>59184654Sand boosts the special defense of Rock types, activates Sand Force, Sand Rush, and Sand Veil, and does chip to all types but 3Rain increases ALL Water attacks, halves Fire type attacks, ensures Thunder and Hurricane hit, makes Electro Shot hit turn 1 instead of charging, activates Swift Swim, Hydration, and Dry SkinRain is far more "splashable," no pun intended
>got to master tier in BSS>decide to get master is doubles >ignore BSS for a four days while claiming in doubles>come back to BSS to discover I've somehow managed to go from master 4 to master 3 without playing a single gameHow? Has master tier filled up with so many room temperature elo scrubs that they've managed to push me up a rank?Are... are so many people that bad at the game that them merely existing in master tier is enough to rank up other players?
>>59184675singles is the glue eater attractor format
>>59183953>>59183957I remember exploiting.....some bug in Scarlet early. I forgot which it was. But I have a gorrillion Pokeshekels, and 300+ of each vitamin. So EV training for me is far easier in something like Scarlet, or even Sword where I also have fuckloads of cash. Uncapped Vitamins definitely help though.Thinking back I completely forgot what the exploit was in Scarlet. In Sword it was something with Raid Dens resetting and duping items to sell I remember.
How do I climb Battle Spot Doubles with MegaGarde, a yellow tamale shaped Rodent, and a Garchomp?
Any good teams with this bug? I love this thing
ManI hate going on a losing streak and fighting bots. So boring
>>59184709hows your team looking like? need any help?
>>59184570>>59184576No balls
covert cloak should’ve been in the game
>>59184732this but rocky helmet it's even on the item shop ui
>>59184712It's just these archaludons man I can't beat em
Can anyone trade me a Sword-legal Talonflame? I don't own the DLC and don't know how else to get one.
>>59184675master 3 only started existing on the 15th. before that everyone was master 4
>>59184741uh does it have to be a talonflame?
>>59184748No, any stage is fine, but preferably female
make a new one pls
>>59184752do you care about ability?
>>59184758Nope, it's going straight into Champions and I can just change it there.
it's boring now... smogon players have stopped shitting their pants over the fact that a vgc simulator does in fact only support the vgc format. launch day was so funny seeing so many people cry that it doesn't cater to showdown rules as if official pokemon would ever cater to that...
>>59184761gotcha, gimme 2 min and i can trade in swsh
>>59184741I have Legends ZA Shiny Birds.
>>59184753nou
>>59184762As someone who did enjoy ranking OU ladder back in the day, I can understand why they don't cater to 6v6 fags, as I am actually having some fun in VGC.What I DON'T understand is why I can't just fucking dick around with my friends in 6v6 singles if we want to. Fucking hell. It hurts no-one if we decide to have an hour+ 6v6 autismo battle.
>>59184761alright, in swsh, code will be this post number
>>59184773maybe in the future when they add more features to the live service game... but it's kinda clear they intended for this to be a vgc sim and introduction for new players. the singles format is also their japan ranked singles 3v3 format.
>>59184773I'm sure in the future they will add custom rules to private games so we can do 6v6. Right now I think they don't want streamers doing 6v6 because they really want to show off the main gamemodes to all the new players.
>>59184774Oops, searching now. I haven't done in this in half a decade.
>>59184783np, make sure youre on internet, not local. again, code is 59184774
>>59184775>>59184780Yeah sure I get they want to just get the basic game modes running and working. But I won't be holding my breath. They've been gestapo about 6v6 singles since SwSh.
>>59184762The hatred for it has almost completely died out and it makes me feel as if it was just manufactured outrage for views. The pervasive feeling now is just that it's a fun competitive game and it's getting new players into the game because of how easy training pokemon is. It was such a few weird, wild launch days. Can't even say week because by the end of the week the complaints just died out.
>>59184783bro trade me some trash i already got a mewtwo
>>59184786>>59184793I didn't even realize I was set to local. I switched and it's been searching, I have no idea how to accept. There's like fifty names
>>59184794enjoy the lil brid!
this is why i think we should just move to Home trading as the standard.We already use Home already, but i guess downloading a new app and clogging your phone makes people hesitant
>>59184796I think someone sniped me lol, I got nothingThis system is miserable
LMAO tf is going on
>>59184801bye then lil fletchling. i got an egg lmfao
People really on here sniping first route birds in swsh lmao
ok well i caught a second one though this one isn't shiny lol
>>59184816I prefer non-shiny anyways, thank you very much
>>59184817ok well go to y-com, link trade, set code as this post
>>59184820I actually got it this time, thank you.
>>59184825that was pretty funny ngl
>>59184762I still want 6v6 ranked. Don't really understand why it's not a format, I like doubles but 3v3 sucks
>>59184827I have no idea what Game Freak was thinking with that system, but thank you again.
All ghost moves should hit through protect
>>59184584I don't usually mind object mons but object mons of things that are supposed to be much bigger are just retarded.The shitty pre-evo at least had the excuse that it was made with the shitty Gigantamax in mind but this one's just dumb.
>>59184773i sleep better knowing 6v6 fags can't play
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