honestly? shocking.
>>59187179>the unova ones are categorically worsepretty embarrassing desu
mmmm so ccrisp
Why do these "Unova is a Kanto ripoff" posts always list things that every gen does, like the motherfucking starters?Also>Ditto and Zorua>Cubone and VullabyNigga what?
the only thing shocking is how you keep making this stupid thread
>>59187202same archetype.Transform Pokémon.Bone Pokémon
>>59187179 (OP)>the kanto ones are categorically worsepretty embarrassing desu
y'know I really like a lot of the pose pairings hereDrilbur arms up with Sandshrew arm down, Machop punching behind a confident Timburr leaning forward to make space, Ducklett and Psyduck partying down thereKanto and Unova duos are so kino
>>59187179remove the starters, rodent, bug, bird, Oddish duo, electric rat, and pseudo-legendary
>>59187276same archetype.
>>59187276The whole dex is still a bunch of Kanto ripoffs anyway.
>>59187179This is indefensible
>>59187256I really like Sawk and Hitmonlee having eachother's backs and the pose of Throh and hitmonchan, even though I don't care for any of those pokemon individually>>59187284Every game has them retard
>>59187179I like Unova overa because I find that they had a dark and edgier theme with darker color pallets and a good amount of detail that is neither overdesigned, nor too bland and looked especially well on the sprites of the gen 5 games.And Zoroark is really fluffy with nice fur and sharp claws. The gimmick of mimicing Pokémon is also nice because your Zoroark can basically take on any appearance.Stinkers include garbador, vanillux, watchog and terrakion, but each gen has stinkers.
>>59187202Gen 2 was supposed to be the sequel gen but they still did the 3 starters, early rodent, early bird, dual bug line etc copycat shit but all worse. At least gen 5 isn't pretending to be something it's not.
>>59187321>Every game has them retardPlease learn how to recognize patterns, low IQ retard. Which game has the most archetype repetitions? ... Oh. Got it?
>>59187284starters isn't an archetype
>>59187179>Be KANTOOOOOO designer>Be fat creativel bankrupt cuck>Get a time machine>Go into future>Scout out the extremely creative and unique Unova Pokémon.>Copy them all but make them shittier to be legally distinct>Go back to your own time>Release the shittified Unova Pokémon as KANTOOOOO Pokémon
>>59187343>2026>People are still pretending Trubbish and Garbodor are bad designs
>>59187179>Genesect
>>59187392Which Pokémon game has the most new Pokémon full stop?Of course there's going to be some thematic repetition.Do you get upset when different animals fill similar niches IRL as well?
>>59187429it is when Let's Go and Yellow breaks the mold.
>>59187553This is not about different animals filling similar niches, sweetie. This is about a whole dex (70 Pokémon) being a carbon copy of the gen 1 dex but monernized.Also two similar rats existing in separate continents IRL do not excuse a brand from being this cheap.
>>59187249That's a very selective interpretation.Zorua has more in common with Vulpix than Ditto.
>>59187179Every gen has starters, so you can remove those from the graphicEvery gen has an early route bird bug and rodent, so you can remove those tooEvery gen has rock types so you can remove thatEvery gen has ground types so you can remove thatEvery gen has a cat so you can remove thatEvery gen has a grass type so you can remove that (Petilil)Every gen has a Pikaclone so you can remove thatEvery gen has a poison type so you can remove that (Trubbish)Zorua isn't a copy of Ditto so you can remove thatMost gens have fossils so you can remove thoseI don't know what the connection between Cubone and the vulture would be so you can remove thatEvery gen has a psuedo so you can remove thatEvery gen has legendaries so you can remove that
>>59187584>less than half the dex is the whole dexOkay. I think you're just retarded.
>>59187179They really ran out of ideas in Bortnova. Thank god gen 6 was GOATED and saved the franchise from the DS slump.
>>59187594>b-but my agenda
>>59187609he's used to Kalos where the whole dex is 70 Pokemon. Half of those still being clones with how loose the definition is here
>>59187589>gimmick is transforming to any pokémon>it's actually just like vulpix!kek sure.
>>59187609>What is a nugen dex for the last 15 years.Retard.
>>59187627They're both two-stage fox mons based on the kitsune. They were even designed by the same artist.
>>59187627>gimmick is transforming to any pokémonNo it's not
>>59187646this is about the role they play.ALL OF THIS >>59187179 IS ABOUT THE RPG ROLE THEY PLAY but all these retards itt can't comprehend it.>>59187620>>59187594>>59187589>>59187553>>59187429>>59187202
>>59187658>Zorua and Ditto's gimmick is not about illusionYes it is. I think you missed Pokopia and the Zoroark movie thing if Pokémon lore is that hard for you to follow.
>>59187627Zorua doesn't even transform into the other Pokémon, it's an illusion to trick people. Ditto fully does that, moves, stats, everything. You're delusional.
>>59187667Ditto's transformation is an illusion. He is not really a chad Incineroar devastating your shit team. Same goes to Zorua.
>>59187659>this is about the role they play.That makes even less sense. Chansey and Audino have opposite roles despite being similar designs.One was meant to be rare and hard to catch, the other was meant to be accessible everywhere.
>>59187202OP is a jeet. Being intellectually dishonest is just the natural impulse for a race full of scammers.
>>59187634And we're not talking about those dexes.We're talking about the last time a Pokémon game had 100+ new 'mons.Try to keep up.
>>59187179Petilil is a stretch
>>59187672>He is not really a chad IncineroarIn terms of gameplay, he is.
>>59187678Racist? Go back to /pol/. So typical of unovaborts when losing an argument kek
>>59187659The "RPG role" they play is to be similar but different, given that it's the first main game set outside of Japan.Complaining about it is missing the fucking point.Especially since you can transfer all of your Gen 1-4 'mons in after you beat the game.
>>59187705>I've been exposed!Fucking lol
>>59187705Your literal shithole of a country still has a caste system in 2026 while you cry about "racism," lmao. Even jeets can't stand other jeets. No wonder you hate Unova so much, it's a clean, functional, idyllic first-world society with no shitting streets, poop-throwing festivals, or slums, everything India isn't.
>>59187343>2026>People are still pretending Trubbish and Garbodor are good designs
>>59187731Trubbish is legit cute.Garbodor I don't get.
>>59187705This is seriously the number 1 way to find out if someone is from India. I have seen both blacks and whites on this site shit on each other face for the fun of it, but the moment it happen to an Indian, now it's a problem.
>>59187680So even with all the clones it still has as many if not more unique designs than any of your nugen dexes
>>59187659>Every special sweeper is the same>Every physical sweeper is the same>every tank is the same>every support mon is the same>every SFMA is the same
>>59187740Tomodachi Life added a cracker to the profile icons this week and I immediately made it my pfp lmao
>>59187179I don't get it, wasn't gen 5 supposed to be a return to roots sorta thing?!I thought this was on purpose.
>>59187743>>every SFMA is the sameBasically lmao
>>59187776Since BW was in the USA, they created a westernized Pokedex analogous to Kanto. But even now, the designs like Emboar and the wise monkeys are unpopular.
>>59187392It's the only gen that had no (as in ZERO) mons from previous games (until postgame).
>>59187903>unpopularProof?
>>59187903They aren’t even westernized, that’s why it sucks. They are all obviously mon that should be from East Asia.The game setting was great, just not the Pokémon, which is a big deal since that’s the name of the fucking game. Guessing the Pokémon were made in a vacuum, approved to be canonized in universe, then and just taped to the game largely.China dex will be easy at least.
>>59187776It wasn't a return to roots so much as the initiative to focus entirely on new Pokemon meant they had to redo old concepts to fill out gaps in the dex, since they wouldn't use old mons to fill out the same roles anymore.This isn't a big secret, they've openly talked about it in interviews. Audino was created solely so Nurse Joy would have a Chansey replacement in the anime.
>>59187731>2026>People are still parroting
>>59187179lmao wow gen 5... just sad
>>59187905It's the only gen that had 1 (as in ONE) new dex heavily inspired by Kanto dex as seen above (until postgame).
>>59187179why do so many people pretend that the soft reboot wasn't literally what Gamefreak was going for?
>>59187659Every pokemon play the rpg role of a party member so literally every pokemon copy each other.
>>59187179I think Cubones counterpart is supposed to be Yamask.
>>59187185Except my wife
Oh no HoennbrosNot like this not like this...
>>59187553>Which Pokémon game has the most new Pokémon full stop?Gen 8 During development they had creative block so resorted to take inspiration from Britain.Gen 2 had babies and evolutions of previous pokemon.Gen 3 was the first time they wanted a new region with all new pokemon but didn't have the energy to commit.Gen 4 focused on more evolutions of previous pokemon.Gen 6 focused on mega-evolution.Gen 7 focused on regional pokemon.Gen 9 clogged up the dex with paradox pokemon.
>>59187776It was supposed to be different but also familiar. The goal was to create a region which looked different from afar but when up close you would see that they are human just like you. This is why all languages translated Unova's name to something that references unity.
>>59187179I'd like to see this given a more fair shake where it lists off the multiple mons that gave inspiration to the unova mons and listed what features likely went into the design. Like for example zorua and ditto there is obviously only half the story with lucario also playing its part. Like how it shows both Sandshrew and Diglett with Drilbur.
>>59188640Let me help.Poochyena's line is Growlithe's.The Fearow line is actually supposed to be Pelliper since its beta design looked more like a thief.The Swellow line is supposed to be Pidgey.The Slaking line is Snorlax.The Surskit line is supposed to be Ekans line since they have an evolution with false eyes.Nincada's also reference Paras. Nincada & Paras are cicadas. Parasect and Shedninja are the dead corpse.Whismur's line is Jigglypuff's.Makuhita's line is Mankey's.Skitty's line also references Clefairy's line as pokemon that evolve by moonstone.Sableye is also Meowth with their love of shiny things.Volbeat and Illumise are the Nidoran's and Pinsir and Scyther.Roselia is Tangrowth. Grass types with a unique typing in it's gen.Sharpedo's line is Tentacruel as the evil water types.Zangoose is also Sandslash. Both version exclusives.Lunatone and Solrock are Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan both used in the sixth gym's town.Castform is Porygon both artificially created pokemon.Shuppet's line also references Marowak's. Both have issues with abandonment and Marowak was fought as ghost.Glalie is Jynx both based on an ice Yokai with their face being black. Froslass was also censored to have purple skin like Jynx.Clampearl's line is supposed to be Slowpoke's and Shellder's . Clampearl's Beta design had the pearl and clam both being alive with the evolution being one overtaking the other. This time it's the mollusk being parasitized. Huntail is the Clam winning and Gorebyss is the pearl winning.Beldum and Metatang are Magnemite and Magneton as multiplying objects.
>>59188827Relicanth and Aerodactyl are both the odd fossil pokemon.
>>59187179Red = I like the Unova pokemon moreBlue = I like the Unova pokemon around equally to the kanto counterpartUncircled = I like the Kanto pokemon more
>>59187364>seething over johto out of absolutely nowhereclassic bort behavior KEEEK
>>59189306>stop noticing that repeat designs have always existed>i just want to seethe about unova for the billionth timeIt's almost as if certain ecological niches are filled by multiple critters IRL, and Game Freak wanted to reflect that in their fantasy universe.
>>59187179it's frustrating that they did this when all it served to do is add pointless filler to the national dex for no reason which eventually resulted in the national dex being so big that we can't have every pokemon in a single game anymore.
>>59187179Unova mogs frfr
>>59189322Yeah the thing about that is Unova is a lot less subtle about it>two stage elemental fast equine pokemon>three stage rock mon that can only really be described as "rock monster" in caves with a trade evolution>three stage water type frog>two stage bug type crab>two version counterpart stone evolution grass mons >three stage humanoid fighting mon with a trade evolution>pink high hp mon that accompanies nurses and gives a lot of exp>two-stage psychic type tapir>two fighting type counterparts based on different martial arts>fire/electric/ice legendary trio>genetically engineered legendaryI could go on and on. I understand needing to fill all the important archetypes like your fossilmon, your route 1 shitmons, your cave mons, etc. The problem is that they did exactly the same fucking thing they did in gen 1, over and over and over. The issue is not the fact that they filled the archetypes, but rather the way they went about it. It's creatively bankrupt.
>>59188670"Unova" has nothing to do with "unity" >You + nova ("new" female form).
>>59189306>out of absolutely nowherejohto is the first new dex of the seriesit is responsible for setting the barand it flopped, hard
>>59187179Gen 5 is so soulless
>>59190198Broke her ass
