In the same vain how boomers go basedface over their KANTOOOO and their "Charizard" and "Pikachu" and fucking "Ninetales", Zoomers go basedface over their EXPLORERS OF SKYYYY with it's "muh heckin deep storyline", "fleshed out characters" and "sovl". It's literally the same thing but for different birth dates.I wonder if in 10 or so years we will have gen Alphas all goying basedface over "MUH HECKIN POKÉMON SCARLET AND VIOLET" as if that was the best thing ever made.
Take your meds nigga
Wrong, THIS is the zoomer equivalent of KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
IS THAT N FROM UNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOVA???
>>59189385here is the (You) now stop bagging you cunt
begging* my bad
>>59189385>gen Alphas all goying basedface over "MUH HECKIN POKÉMON SCARLET AND VIOLET" as if that was the best thing ever made...Isn't that the case already?
>>59189399Undella
>>59189385pokemon should definitely not talk. ever. fuck this series and fuck that new goyim magnet game with the ditto they just put out
>>59189593>kike mad because mystery dungeon accurately portrays kikes as pedophilesKekerino, today I will remind themhttps://youtu.be/rG7mGrqiz0s
>>59189593>>59189645You should both kill yourselves
saving this
>>59189385Ludomancer is correct. Stop being bitter
>>59189385The difference you're purposely ignoring is that Explorers of Sky is a good game. It's liked by Pokemon fans because it's a good game.RGBY is straight-up garbage when it's divorced from the circus of unhinged consoomerism that surrounded it at time of release. Genwunners aren't Pokemon fans, they are fans of their own nostalgia. To them, media is only an accessory for their narcissism, not an artistic endeavor to respect on its own merits.
>>59191150>RGBY is straight-up garbageGame not working as intended =/= being garbage. The only actual design flaw of Gen 1 is the open midgame being dogshit encounter wise because it's the same Pokemon over and over again (because they were either afraid of using certain Pokemon or they cut like 40 of them and replaced them with the version exclusive grass types) at about the same level, and even then that's slightly mitigated by it being largely optional. Almost everything in combat doesn't work right but given the game never explains how the fuck it should work to begin with it's only occasionally noticeable. It's genuinely way better than slop like SS, and I only like replaying Gen 1 because it's a pretty breezy experience so let that be a testament to how really bad SS is. You're still probably better off playing FRLG even with the worse Pokemon pool.
>>59189385sky's story is overrated as shit. 90% of it is fluff and the few serious segments are so pants on head retarded that it's not even funny. dusknoir is comically over the top evil outside of the special episode where they try to make him sympathetic and play up the "there are no truly evil pokemon" theme that doesnt even work because darkrai was behind literally everything in the game and his motives were "lmao im evil"
>>59189385The difference is that EoS is actually good
>>59189645This is correct
>>59191191T. Illiterate boomer
>>59189385So you're saying EoS is bad and is only popular because a minority of the fanbase worship it?
>>59191208>any scene with the guild, literally any context>sunflora says oh my gosh>corphish says hey hey hey>bidoof says golly>chatot gets flustered and squawksmy knees are bending on their own... such incredible writing...
>>59189385How many people played Explorers of Sky? I'm fairly confident that MD Blue got the most sales and everyone went "What a novel experience. Now back to the mainline games while I mentally shelf this as sidegame slop."
holy shitit cant beis that who I think it is???
>>59189385I didn't play this because the gameplay already become boring after the first game, no evolution until postgame and the recruitment system didn't help.
>>59191150>To them, media is only an accessory for their narcissism, not an artistic endeavor to respect on its own merits.Holy trvke
>>59191232>corphish says hey hey hey>bidoof says golly>chatot gets flustered and squawksAll kino
>>59191187>Game not working as intended =/= being garbage.RGBY is an extremely basic RPG on the level of Dragon Quest 1 but released a decade later. That a game this simplistic can't even work properly at the limited things that it does is embarrassingly bad. It also has a shit dex and region compared to later installments. The only reason it's sucked off as much as it is is because it came first - which is sad when even other entry-level RPG series like Final Fantasy and Persona have managed to have multiple standard-bearers and not defaut to just shilling the first game - and because of the consumerist fad that surrounded it at the time, which had nothing to do with the quality of the game itself.
>>59191232Dialogue that helps distinguish characters and makes them all unique. I can tell a character's personality based on their dialogue. I don't know about you, but I think it's important to get a good impression from a character nased on their dialogue.
>>59191237It's one of the most emulated games on the DS. The Mystery Dungeon community (as a whole, not just PMD) typically agrees that EoS is better than Rescue Team. Many even say it's the best Mystery Dungeon period.
>>59191254>>59191232God forbid characters have unique personalities and speech quirks
>>59189385The DS games are the most inorganically shilled in the franchise. LUCAAAAARIO and SHIROOOONAAAAA are constantly pushed. GAAAAARBODOOOR shows up in every game and gets a special form despite being unpopular. The demand for Kanto is organic, by contrast, but DSborts will never admit this.
>>59191150I see more people complaining about genwunners than I do genwunners.
>>59191396Cynthia is only really hyped because of the anime. In the games she was kinda whatever. And i say this as a Gen 4 fan.
>>59191396>gameboy was organic>DS wasn’tMaybe the dumbest post ittAlso>>59191443The anime was a big deal. I never really watched it past the original, but it obviously still was relevant for awhile after.Cynthia was a petty great character in her debut games too. Actually memorable as a trainer and a character.
>>59191396>The demand for Kanto is organicIt's not organic because it's never come from actual, invested fans of the series. It's always come from the normalfags who were only there for the fad, left when the fad ended, and didn't come back until '90s nostalgia became the new fad. Their "demand" has always been purely superficial and Game Freak ruined the franchise by trying to meet it.
>>59191443Back then everyone went on about how hot Cynthia was and about how she folded them.
>>59191487>Cynthia was a petty great character in her debut games too. Actually memorable as a trainer and a character.Not much better than Steven or Diantha. I'd say Steven actually did more. Cynthia needed Platinum to make her do more and its barely anything even compared to Steven.No, it was the anime making her out to be the most badass and powerful trainer EVAAARRRRRR that made her popular.
To add: I think she also epitomized an idea(l) of the champion overall on top of being a relevant character in those games.Gen 1 champion was more a rival, and the dragon clan where cool but still seemed more like something else rather than “champions”, even if that something else fit the tone and settings of the first games well. Then there’s red who’s also more a spooky digital specter of the player made champion + reference to surrounding media.Another example is Steven and Wallace being more figureheads of certain custodial interests in the main plot rather than champions, beating them being not only easy but seemingly secondary to the conflict with nature plot of their game.After Cynthia, she is more or less what all other champions are measured against, and I don’t think anyone did it better unless you, for example, take a completely different approach like you get in gen 9 with numona, who is more a support character and friend in a similar vein if juxtaposed to the dynamic of gen 1, with her games inner circle and their character arcs as well as the tone of the game seeming much more personal, being completely differently oriented to something like Cynthia’s “broader” and more conceptually complete approach to the idea of a champion.
This happens similarly with iris, whose alternative angle is as a prodigal aspirant, in an overt way in the anime for example, mirroring Cynthia herself, if extremely green and without the responsibilities.The themes and tones of her game also contribute to this message she acts as a vessel for.Continuing in the vein of more down to earth characterizing vs concepts, and to talk about the oldest to newest complete mainline games again, as examples: your rival, Giovani, Lance, the professors, and all the groups and interests they represent are completely different in direction, if more similar to penny, numona, and arven then you might imagine.One group splits apart, and are carried by divergent if inter spiraling and eventually converging interests and goals, while the other sticks together, and ends up in a singular point none explicitly where looking for or even seemingly imagined>arven just wants to save his last remaining family member>penny is trying to make a constructive home for misfit toys, ie struggle, often clumsily, with advancing or growing up and finding a place amongst the world or angst for herself and others>Numona just uninhibitedly really wants to battle*It’s much smaller in scope, but still the recurring theme of rivals meeting at the end plays out, as a checkmarked example.
>>59191350name one aspect of corphish's personality beyond the fact that he says "hey hey hey!"
>>59191540This is all retroactive tripe youre phoning in after the fact. The reality is Cynthia is the first time the idea of the champion was at all played up in the anime. In the Indigo League, there was no mention of it and we didn't have Ash vs Gary in the champion league or whatever.Johto i believe Lance is only mentioned in spinoff material like Pokemon Chronicles and Steven i dont think even comes up in Hoenn.Cynbthia was the first time the anime made mention of built up the champion.
>>59191729He's one of the more level-headed guild members, especially in contrast to Loudred or Sunflora.
>>59191729Well he was the one that came up with the idea to have guild members stick together when searching for the Time Gears
>>59191729It's been 10+ years since I played EoS, but I remember him being cowardly and averse to doing anything dangerous or risky.
>>59192036>”retroactive tripe from anime”>entire point was based off gameplay from the main gamePainfully esl post so I won’t be too mean but no
>>59191509Is that really any different from the DS games being the most widely agreed upon best games at a point in time when 2000s nostalgia is the new fad? I'd honestly say the only difference between the genwunners of like 2010 and a lot of the people saying the DS games are the best today is that it's pretty common for the DS fans to have an annoying persecution complex about genwunners even in the present day when genwunners are barely a thing.
>>59189645Drowzee eventually repents tho
>>59192717Depends on who you ask.Any new player who looks at the older half of the gens will enjoy the quality of life changes of 4, or the uniquely retro themes of 1 that spawned the entire series.The gens with the most online, biggest persecution complex has to be 5, followed by 6-7. 2 and 3 are far seconds, since their base is just older and either removed from the game or accepting of the reality of the overall state of the modern franchise and the growing pains of the gen’s overall in a way most spammer mutants aren’t capable of.
