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I keep seeing this term be used around the board and am struggling to find a consistent definition of them and their views, or what it is about them that makes them such a contentious topic.
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Sup Kojo
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>>59194490
There's no real meaning, schizos just use it to piss other people off. I got called a campaignshitter in a coomer thread when there's no competitive discussion going on.
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>>59194500
Kek
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>>59194490
People i hate = campaignshitter
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>>59194490
A word made up by shitdown fags to insult players who don't spend their whole day looking at damage calculators
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>>59194490
A "campaignshitter" is someone who plays Pokémon for the singleplayer campaigns and other singleplayer content like the battle facilities and does not care for competetive play.
"Campaignshitters" usually use the Pokémon they like the designs of and/or have personal memories with rather than making an optimised teams with synergies made of meta Pokémon only on Smogon.
I do not know if shinyhunters also count as "campaignshitters" or if they are spared of that label.
Basically it is if you play Pokémon like it's Dragon Quest or Final Fantasy.
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Its the most forced meme ever tried to be forced. May as well start calling people compshitters or cardshitters or plushitters if you buy a toy
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>>59194490
Dont bother trying to understand some deranged autist’s tic, along with any other weird and unexplainable repetitions on this board. In a year or two it’ll get replaced by another schizo’s fixation, and the cycle will begin anew.
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>>59194507
So playing it like it was made kek
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>>59194507
It's kinda funny that Pokémon has three separate sub-series based on Dragon Quest.
The main games, Mystery Dungeon and now Pokopia.
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>>59194490
It's Yawnnigger/Kojo's buzzword for people who don't religiously play VGC 4v4 Doubles, the primary officially supported format of Pokemon's annual world championships.
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>>59194507
The funny part is the terminology being used to decry the actual point of the franchise while hiding under a veil of faux intellectualism using fallacies to prove a point and then repeating oneself like a Jew if the point isn't accepted

>>59194534
Which is funny because he clearly doesn't either
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>>59194490
It's just a buzzword to bait retards into replying, there are a lot of mentally ill individuals who do nothing but fish replies posting bait shitposts, it's better just to report them for instigating flamewars and ignore them.
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>>59194534
it's just a buzzword to fish replies, kojo was calling people "campaignshitters" for playing champions.
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>>59194507
So basically a functioning human being.
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>>59194562
Yes, because they were playing 3v3 Singles, which isn't the officially supported format of Pokemon's annual world championships.
If you're not wholly playing Pokemon with the intention to become the world champion one day, then you're a campaignshitter. That's his simple as logic as his clitty violently leaks.
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>>59194490
It's literally just one autistic troll spamming his made up version of "skill issue" at everyone that implies a Pokemon or mechanic is weak or underpowered to the point of making threads with it in the OP
He's posted it for months but he's really ramped up his spamming as of late
Disregard any posts containing it, for they are the ravings of a madman
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>>59194490
>What is a 'campaignshitter'?
Common traits of a campaignshitter:
>thinks training 6 pokemon evenly is the best strategy because he fails to understand the basic concept of min/maxing
>fails to understand that pokemon can still take damage even if the “it’s super effective!” text doesn’t appear on the screen
>thinks types are the most important mechanic in the game, and that a pokemon can be shit or good purely because of its type
>thinks that a pokemon is a “physical attacker” just because its attack stat is higher than its special attack stat or vice versa
>thinks pokemon absolutely have to use their STABs
>has a meltdown at the thought of playing a game without the phys/spec split holding his hand
>entire understanding of a Pokemon’s viability is its tier ranking on smogshit; doesn’t care about any official formats because they don’t have any convenient tier rankings for him to stare at
>thinks 6v6 singles is the best competitive format simply because it’s the one that’s closest to being the same as the campaign, so it makes him feel included without having to put any effort into actually playing competitive
>refers to the official format as “VGC”, is completely unaware there are multiple official formats
>never plays battle facilities past the first 21 matches at most; his idea of good postgame content is NPC rematches and a few unreplayable routes
>can’t remember more than one battle mechanic at a time
>complains about “XY being too easy even for pokemon”, which implies he’s so fucking bad at the games he thinks the prior ones are challenging
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>>59194490
Its used to insult someone thats making a doompost about champions or complaining about competitive play, because why are they even giving an opinion on something that doesn’t interest them?
For example, a campaignshitter is someone who would complain that mega feraligatr got dragonize instead of strong jaw.
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>>59194490
zoomer term for casual player I assume
>>59194500
fucking lmao
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>>59194507
>and other singleplayer content like the battle facilities
Campaignshitters don’t even do that much. They’re too terrible at the game and too afraid of losing to play battle facilities. The only exception is the casualized streakless ones BW2 has.
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>>59194568
Pretty sure some people are intentionally using his term wrong to try and well poison, it’s become schizo warfare. My understanding was a “campaign shitter” is someone who refuses to engage with the game beyond the framework of the campaign, and that includes a certain type of Smogonfag who insists 6v6 is “real Pokemon” because “that’s what they do in the anime and campaign”
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>>59194589
Give me examples of said posts because I have seen some REALLY fucking ignorant and stupid “campaignshitter” flagged posts.
To be honest I don’t know why OP is complaining about it since I only ever see it being used in comp threads, usually at someone complaining about a completely reasonable mechanic or hating on champions in general.
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>>59194591
>complaining about not getting strong jaw on gatr
grim
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>>59194507
>and other singleplayer content like the battle facilities
Cut this part out and your post is accurate.
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>>59194590
This is actually kojo/yawnie copypasta btw
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>>59194534
Nah, nowadays he also insists BSS is VGC so he can “gotcha” people who say Mega Victreebel is mid
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>>59194603
Right. And now it's extending even to officially sanctioned formats in Champions that aren't the supported format of the world championships, because again, he views Pokemon exclusively from a "profit investment" sense: you get into the games, you build up your team for competitive, and then you invest in qualifying for the world championships so you can cash out bigly as the #1 player of that year.
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>>59194615
Common disingenuity on his part, just like how Smogon "doesn't matter" until it suddenly does, like his infamous "TH-THE PSS MADE POKEMON WORSE FOR NO REASON" argument citing Sneasel's tier drops in Smogon between ADV and DPPt wherein if you then logically point out "that's because Weavile, the literal direct upgrade evolution exists, you fucking retard", he deflects by asking "how do I use Weavile in UU?" like it's the ultimate gotcha.
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>>59194615
We got a live one, folks!
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>>59194613
If it is then it is unironically accurate. So I don’t mind it.
If I could ban every faggot complaining about 6v6 singles in champions I would.
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>>59194618
No, the people calling 3v3 people “campaign shitters” are just other shitposters well poisoning thats my point
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>>59194490
>doesn’t want to battle
Sad.
Really it’s Nuspeak for carebear AKA PVE’er.
Pokémon mainline games need the trinity of
>DEX
>REGION
>CAMPAIGN
None of these appeal to people who just want to slot in their abstract formulaic teams and grind showdown.
>t unironic sand box fan waiting for a successor to stadium with an open PVP post game zone to gank in as is proud Pokémon tradition
>>59194503
>implying they use the calculators and trail teams
All they do is copy leader boards and clumsily pilot jap comps
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>>59194637
Explain why it's a bad idea for it to be an option even in lobbies.
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>>59194605
Broken Clock theory
As said it's just a nonsensical way of calling someone bad at the game, and if you call everyone bad you're gonna be right some of the time
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>>59194590
i dont get the first point
why wouldnt you want to train up a full party, besides a self-appointed challenge? if its a solo run, yeah i get using one mon, but otherwise, why wouldnt you use a full team?
this isnt even "you cant use anything but a full team", its just "why wouldnt you"
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>>59194659
>why wouldnt you want to even out all your EVs?
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>>59194590
>>complains about “XY being too easy even for pokemon”, which implies he’s so fucking bad at the games he thinks the prior ones are challenging
Kojo is a campaignshitter by his own admission because he regularly cites USUM as being the most challenging game in the franchise.
KEK, what a bitch!
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It's an elitist term used to look down on 1Player people.
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>>59194649
If you can’t give me examples then I’m not giving you the benefit of the doubt.
I have seen countless threads were you have idiots trying to insist on a new mechanic that is utterly ridiculous to “buff” a certain type or suggesting abilities that make “lore sense” but are genuinely awful to the mon in question. I can see no other way than to call that a campaign shitter.
It doesn’t even extend to pvp either, SV are the most barebones pokemon to date because of what those campaignshitters wanted and got such as
>forced exp share
>eggs being completely pointless
>no battle facilities
>a huge open world full of fucking nothing that you can just fly all over after a certain point
Thank god game freak didn’t listen to you freaks that wanted strong jaw on mega feraligatr
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>>59194665
Saying a 2nd grade math test is the most challenging compared to a 1st grade and kindergarten math test doesn’t imply you think the 2nd grade math test is hard

Complaining that the kindergarten math test is “too easy”, however, does imply that you’re a fucking dumbass who somehow thought the 1st and 2nd grade math tests weren’t “too easy” because you’re bad at math
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I mean you see people trying to run perish trap sets or coil milotic in champions right now to get “free wins” or try to stall out draws. You wouldn’t call that a campaignshitter?
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>>59194679
They're not playing the campaign, and if they're winning games at high ranks using that strategy, they're not a shitter, therefore, they're not a campaignshitter.
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>>59194590
>>thinks training 6 pokemon evenly is the best strategy because he fails to understand the basic concept of min/maxing
>>complains about “XY being too easy even for pokemon”, which implies he’s so fucking bad at the games he thinks the prior ones are challenging
Ironic.
If the games are easy (which they are), why would anyone need to min-max them?
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>>59194686
Winning? They are losing and winning. Coil Milotic is just a set people use to force a draw, thats not winning lol thats just cucking the other player out of their clear win.
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>>59194690
Who said anything about "need"?
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I have a humiliation fetish.
Can you please call me campaignshitter, Unovabort, shitmon and other things like that?
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>>59194679
But that isn't campaignshittery, that's actually engaging with strategic plays in a PVP environment compared to "DURR PRESS GIMMICK BUTTON, SPAM STAB AND SUPER EFFECTIVE, AND WIN".
It's actually rather necessary in Champions because jappos are gamblers by nature and love relying on RNG strats that either go big or go home, you WILL get consecutively dicked down by not being the favored luck of the draw if you don't out-dick them.
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>>59194699
>strategic plays
Ignoring the fact that perish trap is incredibly predictable and inconsistent for winning, tell me whats strategic about coil milotic?
You set up a milotic that does no damage and end up in a 1v2 stalemate where theres no way you can win but you can force a draw.
You don’t win by forcing a draw. If you think this is strategic then you never had any interest in seriously playing. At best this can be described as a troll, like “funbro” sets.
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>>59194695
Then why do it? Are you allergic to fun?
The irony is, if you're a real PvPfag, you need a team of six anyway. Or at the very least a team of 3 or 4.
You won't go far if you only focus on one 'mon.
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>>59194664
i know youre being facetious, but,

you wouldnt want to even out your EVs because you would achieve better results, not as an optimization deal but as a general outcome of your uneven, specialized EV allocation. then again, you can beat the games without any special EV training anyways, but it would be easier if you did.
in regards to how training six mons somewhat evenly is different; they arent the same mon. they wont use the same moves, have the same type strengths and weaknesses, or have the same stats. they can cover each others weaknesses, and play to each others strengths. it isnt impossible to beat the game with only one pokemon, but it is harder; some people like the challenge, and im not gonna say they cant try it.
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>>59194490
It's a new buzzword that a certain Canadian jeet schizo has started forcing to derail threads and turn the board into his designated shitting street.
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>>59194699
Milotic is a set because it forces a draw in a timed environment not because it can actually win if it wasn’t a timed environment.
If you end up in a 2v1 on a timed environment with a setup milotic your chances of winning are slim because you will simply pp stall yourself until you lose.
Can it win you some games if your opponent is bad and lets it setup before you get giga fucked? Sure. Doesn’t mean its a good set though, or strategic. Being strategic implies that you’re not predictable.
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>>59194719
>why yes it is a good idea to train all my EVs evenly because if I train only attack EVs I’ll be weak defensively and attack and defense stats do different things!
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>>59194696
Shitmon isn't Kojocoded, it's a way of life
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>>59194727
>Milotic is a set because it forces a draw in a timed environment not because it can actually win

No, Milotic is about being a fat fuck that punishes you if you ignore it, thereby making space for your other team members
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>>59194737
Incorrect because everytime I’ve seen it I’ve ended up in a 2v1 against it, where it actually tries to luckshit me. It doesn’t work because I didn’t give it anytime to setup coil. If I did then sure, my bad I fucked up I deserve the loss. But if you’re in a situation like the one I describe and simply draw out the game to force a draw then you aren’t “winning” or being “strategic” just a sore loser.
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>>59194732
Mega Aggron made a comeback in the current year, at least.
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>>59194743
>incorrect because I am retarded and ignored the Pokemon that doesn’t have protect and can’t kill it in 20 minutes
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>>59194490
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>>59194630
I have bad faith posting fatigue. At least generals are free from this shit most of the time.
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>>59194746
It's lucky it lost the Rock typing. If it kept it, nobody would be humoring it
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https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/search/text/campaignshitter/
>958 results and counting
>all because someone held the opinion that pokemon like aurorus would be better off not having shit typings and stats
And 2 of the first three posts with that sodomite buzzword is about Ice.

What a faggot.
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>>59194768
Which one of these posts am I supposed to disagree with? They’re all correct.
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>>59194746
>at yeast*
Ftfu.
My kaiju deserves a win without mega cringe
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>>59194747
>im going to make up shit to try and sound right
Sounds like a campaignshitter

>>59194768
That is campaignshitter talk because theres nothing stopping you from making a shitmon work, especially in single player.
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>>59194782
I'm not going to agree with Kojo specifically because doing so will fuel his pride.
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>>59194554
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>>59194793
You’re replying to Kojo right now anyway
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>>59194668
I'm gonna be real with you Mr Campaignshitterspammer I agree with 90% of your manifesto >>59194590 I just think you're really fucking annoying, spamming in threads and making threads. I see an interesting looking thread on the catalog and half of the posts are you arguing with some poor retard. You probably post here more than you actually play Pokemon. I wouldn't care if you were more casual about all this, doing it in a "haha look at these noobs" sort of way, but your autistic zealotry makes it clear you're one of those delusionals who thinks if he spams his vendetta enough on a phillipino cock fighting forum he'll make an actual difference in the world. Like what is your end goal for this? If you spam enough Smogon will realize they're all retarded and shut down? That's a pretty based goal but this isn't the way man
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>>59194711
>>59194727
And a draw means you do not lose your score. Which, in a game that is otherwise a binary win or lose, is actually huge for preserving your success.
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>>59194802
That isn’t my manifesto and I don’t scour threads looking for who to call a “campaignshitter”, I simply call one when I see one making some retarded take like if this was fucking reddit. I literally only hang out in threads about my favorite mon or comp ones. I am not your “boogeyman”. Maybe stop being butthurt about some faggot using the term to shit up the board? Usually helps if you ignore it instead of simply getting asshurt about it, especially if you agree with your boogeyman, well, sorry “mostly agree”.
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>>59194806
No thats just being a sore loser since you didn’t actually draw, just used the timer to your favor lol. I’ve had other people try to cheap out wins after they lost simply because they’re losing 4v3 its fucking embarassing and I know you will defend it.
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>>59194788
I forgot Aggron wasn’t in SV. You might see it end up useful when tera comes back.
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>>59194819
>NOOOOOOO WHY ARE YOU TRYING SO HARD TO PRESERVE YOUR SCORE IN A GAME THAT'S ALL ABOUT WINNING
Campaignshitter moment.
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>>59194830
>i clearly lost
>so I will stall out the timer in an attempt to “win”
>its justified because im trying to “preserve my score”
Should be reportable to be honest. That shit wouldn’t fly in a tournament.
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>>59194841
And yet, it's something GameFreak and ILCA permit in Champions by virtue of the fact no one has been punished, the timer rules have not been altered and the circumstances behind what should be a draw and what should be an assigned win-loss remain the same, therefore it's valid stratagem.
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>>59194847
>i will twist the argument in my favor because tournaments are moderated differently to an online ranking system
Whatever makes you feel better anon. You’re still a pathetic loser. I hope your coil milotic remains consistent all the way up to top 300, I’m sure it will with how confident you are.
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Notice how the campaignshitter is the one using the term campaignshitter and see if ops boogeyman is who you think it is.
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>>59194490
It's just someone who doesn't play pvp
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>>59194866
What's that? Tournaments where one loss dooms you for the entire year and renders your entire journey to the top null and void, a waste of your time, money and effort, are different from standard online ranked which you can continue to grind away at for as much as you'd like?
Look, everyone! The campaignshitter is learning! Let's give her a round of applause for how big and smart she is!
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>>59194886
What a dishonest faggot
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>>59194892
>NOOOOO HOW DARE YOU EMPLOY STRATAGEM THAT WORKS IN THIS SPECIFIC FORMAT OF PLAY INSTEAD OF BEING CONSISTENT DESPITE THE FACT CONSISTENCY IS NOT AS MUCH OF A GUARANTEE IN A LOW-STAKES LADDER WHERE EVERYONE IS GAMBLING FOR THE TOP
We get it, your clitty started leaking uncontrollably from outrage when your Sceptile got mogged and raped in the Emerald Battle Frontier and you've sworn off anything except "become le pokemon champion" ever since.
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>>59194903
>We get it, your clitty started leaking uncontrollably from outrage when your Sceptile got mogged and raped in the Emerald Battle Frontier and you've sworn off anything except "become le pokemon champion" ever since.
That's an oddly specific thing to say.
And if you think it's low-stakes, why do you need to cheat?
Are you just that bad otherwise?
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>>59194913
Because it's a game where the goal is to win. Why would I want to lose if the goal is to win? A draw means I don't win, but I don't lose, either. It's a net benefit for me, and ensures my opponent does not win because of my loss.
Have you considered Pokopia if you need a game where the goal is not to win?
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>>59194913
>Kojo thinks playing the game is cheating now
But I thought Ice type was strong because of Sheer Cold? Let me guess, you think this is a good moveset because Aggron gets TMs
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>>59194493
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>>59194913
Hes just gonna say it isn’t cheating but a valid “stratagem” because the timer isn’t designed for long games. So you can just do things like protect stall while letting the move timer tick down.
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>>59194919
Wait this is the Kojo guy I was defending? Okay then you guys are right, he is a retard.
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>>59194919
Part of being a real winner is accepting losses and learning from them.
Not using cowardly tactics because you're scared it will blemish your record.
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>my falseflag thread gets taken down yet kojo's shit are allowed to stay up
I see how it is.
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>>59194732
Steelix?
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>>59194937
>>59194945
If GameFreak or ILCA didn't want drawing to preserve the player's score to be a valid method of play, then you would not be able to strategically pivot to turn a loss into a draw to preserve your score.
But no one has been punished for doing this. There have not yet been changes to this system. So as of current, it is an acceptable form of play, dare I say, encouraged stratagem, because the point of the game is to win. And if you do not win, the next best thing you want is a draw, because it means you do not lose.
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>>59194930
>bossgodra KING w/ unlimited access to elemental TMussy
Will be relevant one day, in some shit side game. Surely.
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>>59194659
On the contrary, training up 6 Pokemon equally is the challenge. Anyone can feed all their exp to their starter and solo. Getting a team of underleveled 40 somethings over the finish line is way harder.
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*AHEM*
Ice type is abhorrent garbage
Frostbite is better than Frozen
Mega Evolution is the best thing to come out of XY
Mega Evolution is the best way to buff Pokemon
Mega Evolution is the only good gimmick
Fairy type killed the series
Pre-Split sucks
PWT mogs Battle Frontier
Cynthia RAPES and GAPES Leon and his entire region
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>>59194960
The only thing I disagree with is frostbite. I hate homogenized status effects and I’m glad freeze still works as it does.
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>>59194960
Fairy is probably the only type I agree needs a nerf. Ideally make fairy resist dragon instead of outright be immune to it.
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>>59194590
>>complains about “XY being too easy even for pokemon”, which implies he’s so fucking bad at the games he thinks the prior ones are challenging
That's a very contrived way of interpreting that statement.
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>>59194965
Freeze is just a direct Sleep expy as of Champions though, the only difference is it doesn't have special moves that allow you to act while frozen.
We need ANOTHER new status entirely that does something actually unique.
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>>59194971
Freeze has a few specific ways you can thaw out of on turn 1 so no its not an expy. Its also much harder to land than sleep as it is completely rng dependant.
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>>59194490
Here is a warning for you, Showdown bros: Never mess with campaignshitters!
One day I was walking to my job when I met eyes with another trainer so I challenged him, we pulled out or DS and started batteling.
He had a team that was mostly made up ot of waifumons like Ninetails and that random gen 6 NFE fox thing no serious trainer ever uses, except for a random dialga for some reason. Of course I swept his team easily because he didn't have perfect IVs, EVs and Natures and competetive movesets from Smogon like I did which really angered him. So I demanded my price money for beating him in a Pokémon battle and he reached into his cloak but instead of cash, he pulled out a claw hammer and the madman started beating me up with it. After a few swings, I lost conciousness and when I woke up again, I was bleeding all over, had multiple fractures, all my money was gone and he had taken my DS. When I reported him to the police, they just asked me "what a campaignshitter is" and told me that "wasting police officers time with trolling is a serious offense".
So what I learned from this: Never, ever mess with campaignshitters. They are batshit insane.
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>>59194969
Not really. I didn’t think XY was “too easy” because the other games were already “too easy” because I’m not utter dogshit at Pokemon games.
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>>59194971
>can thaw yourself with a ton of moves
>sunlight auto thaws
At this point it’s easy to deal with
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>>59194720
indians truly are the worst "people" alive
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>>59194983
So if I made a Pokemon game with only one NPC and it's a youngster with a patrat, you would not think it's different from other pokemon games difficulty wise?
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>>59195010
Correct.
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>>59195024
Well that's retarded, but you do you genwar fag.
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>>59194534
It has nothing to do with VGC vs. Smogon. Kojo's crusade against "campaignshitters" is entirely because his beloved XY is when GF stopped caring about the actual game and started heavily pushing PVP to disguise their laziness.
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>thread created 2 hours ago
>already 111 replies
Uh oh campaignshitter melty
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>>59195036
No? They objectively stopped caring around SWSH, which is when the Battle Tower was neutered from endlessly replayable to not even worth it because it only lasts a fixed amount of battles and can be cheesed with legendaries.
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If loving 6v6 makes me wrong and a campaignshitter, I don't want to be right. 6v6 is real Pokemon.
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>>59195037
>nooo people are dismantling my retarded opinions
>i can't have that
>waaah
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>>59195075
"real" only in the sense of fan delusion. 4v4 Doubles and 3v3 Singles are the only formats that matter in the eyes of GameFreak, else they would've at least given you a pity 6v6 in unranked friend matches for Champions, and the only reason you can use 6 mons per battle in the mainline games is because they want Little Timmy to have an easier time beating the game.
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>>59195036
>they stopped caring and were lazy by bringing back features gen 5 removed
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>>59195090
The entire foundation of Pokemon is removing features from the unified concept and splitting them into separate versions.
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>>59194490
Apparently people who have only played the campaign and not comp and therefore have little to no knowledge of various mechanics
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>>59194490
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldex-2589358358
Take that, Compshitters!!!
Another victory for us CampaignGODS!!!
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Kojo really is yawnfag. He posted the pic of the infernape named Fifi which yawnfag also has.
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>>59194490
it's not a real term, it's a thing a SINGLE schizo spams 24/7
no one picks up on it because it's babble and the guy that spouts it justuses it to insult anyone he doesn't likes
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>>59195199
>anyone
Nah just people who are terrible at Pokemon games who won’t touch PvP
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>>59195211
you think anyone that disagrees with you is terrible at Pokemon games who won’t touch PvP even when in the same post they are clearly talking about how they play PvP, i've seen it happen dozens of times my little nigger
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>>59194590
>>thinks training 6 pokemon evenly is the best strategy because he fails to understand the basic concept of min/maxing
The games are literally balanced around the player training multiple Pokémon.
>>fails to understand that pokemon can still take damage even if the “it’s super effective!” text doesn’t appear on the screen
Nobody has said this. Super Effective is usually better but in some cases it's actually better to do something else, or Super Effective isn't an option.
>>thinks types are the most important mechanic in the game, and that a pokemon can be shit or good purely because of its type
It's not the most important, but a typing can make or break a Pokémon. Most good Ice types for example would be even better if they weren't Ice. Same with Fairy or Steel Pokémon being weaker if they were different types
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>>59195217
>y-you think the earth is round? Well you think anyone who disagrees with you is a retarded flat earther!
That’s typically how it works, yes
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>>59195224
>Most good Ice types for example would be even better if they weren't Ice
We found another live one, boys!
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>>59194590
>>59195224
>>thinks that a pokemon is a “physical attacker” just because its attack stat is higher than its special attack stat or vice versa
That's literally true. A Pokémon will hit harder using the higher attack stat, except in some cases, like with Nidoking for example.
>>thinks pokemon absolutely have to use their STABs
They don't, but all Pokémon should have the option to effectively use their STABs unless they were designed around defensive play.
>>has a meltdown at the thought of playing a game without the phys/spec split holding his hand
No one does this.
>>entire understanding of a Pokemon’s viability is its tier ranking on smogshit; doesn’t care about any official formats because they don’t have any convenient tier rankings for him to stare at
Actually we don't care about Smogon at all. It's VGC for us
>>thinks 6v6 singles is the best competitive format simply because it’s the one that’s closest to being the same as the campaign, so it makes him feel included without having to put any effort into actually playing competitive
It's the most fun format. I think VGC should be 6v6 doubles personally.
>>refers to the official format as “VGC”, is completely unaware there are multiple official formats
Yes, there are, but VGC is the most fun one.
>>never plays battle facilities past the first 21 matches at most; his idea of good postgame content is NPC rematches and a few unreplayable routes
And yet I've played more than 200 battles in all facilities
>>can’t remember more than one battle mechanic at a time
Who does this? Only mechanic I've ever forgotten about was Dark type Prankster immunity
>>complains about “XY being too easy even for pokemon”, which implies he’s so fucking bad at the games he thinks the prior ones are challenging
No, it implies that XY is so easy that there isn't anything challenging, while other games have something fundamentally different that makes them challenging.
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>>59194601
False. I found the PWT harder than most facilities.
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>>59194664
Because it's impractical. Most of the time you wanna minmax. Usually your chosen attack stat and speed.
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>>59194668
Ok but Drizzle on Mega Drampa and Psychic Surge on Mega Meowstic both make sense and would be good for them while not being absolutely broken.
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>>59194675
And we say that most games are more challenging than XY. We even provide real ingame examples
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>>59195243
>it’s harder
>even though it’s exactly the same as the other facilities except with no streaks and no randomized pokemon
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>>59195239
ninetales has a higher viability ranking than ninetales-A though
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>>59195247
Glad we agree training a full party is impractical.
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>>59195254
>clicking A three times against the gym leader is more challenging than clicking A three times against the gym leader
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>>59194675
>Complaining that the kindergarten math test is “too easy”, however, does imply that you’re a fucking dumbass who somehow thought the 1st and 2nd grade math tests weren’t “too easy” because you’re bad at math
No it doesn't.
And you can say a kindergarten math test is too easy, education standards have been slipping. Case in point, (You) typing such idiotic arguments all day.
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>>59194731
Depends on the Pokémon. Some are best used minmaxed
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>>59195090
>Muh dingleberry farming
You only love it so much because it reminds you of Mumbai.
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>>59195285
>No it doesn't
Yes, it does.

>education standards have been slipping
You’re right, they are slipping if you’re retarded enough to think 1st and 2nd grade math tests are challenging.
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>>59195313
>You’re right, they are slipping if you’re retarded enough to think 1st and 2nd grade math tests are challenging.
Why are you projecting this hard?
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>>59194500
Wrong.
>>59194503
Wrong
>>59194507
Wrong
>>59194534
Wrong
>>59194554
>>59194562
Wrong
>>59194589
Wrong
>>59194590
Irrelevant and bloated
>>59194591
Wrong
>>59194594
Too basic
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>>59194603
Wrong
>>59194642
Wrong
>>59194667
Wrong
>>59194720
Wrong
>>59194768
Extrapolatable
>>59195138
Demi-accurate

I can see you zoomers really didn't learn inferencing in school. Not one of you actually grasp a simple term that's been used here for years now in multiple contexts which should have been enlightening. Probably because you all are just campaignshitters that don't know better.
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>>59195087
gamefreak hasn't made a good game since 2012, i don't give a fuck what they think
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>>59195501
Then why the fuck are you still here, arguing for what competitive "should" and "shouldn't" be in a game you don't give a fuck about?
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>>59195501
Pokemon x and y came out in 2013
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>>59195509
exactly
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>>59195313
>they are slipping if you’re retarded enough to think 1st and 2nd grade math tests are challenging.
A certain amount of difficulty is expected for every grade, it is in fact a bad thing if you let it slip, doesn't matter what grade it is.
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>>59195192
Bro is literally this close to unironically being doxxed
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>>59194490
People who play the game
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I’m a campaignGOD
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>>59195598
*while being terrible at it and being too scared to touch battle facilities or PvP
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>>59195192
Tbh fifi is a common infernape name. My shiny is named that because I stole it from a streamer or nuzlocker
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>>59195313
They aren't challenging, but the 1st grade test is easier
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>>59195650
No, they touch those
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>>59194490
People fixate on insults in a cycle, and every time the thing they have in common is that they are based on an identity that can be objectively true or false, but would take too much time/effort/care to prove than you'd get out of proving it, so you throw it around at everyone and try to bait people into feeding replies. The actual buzzword shifts over time but its all always the exact same thing.

Campaignshitter just meant you dont play comp, it's the next step after "post elo", and basically means "you're bad at the game but disproving my accusation makes you the loser so I got you". You get tired of it after years, and tired of seeing people fall for it, and tired of watching people overuse them until they're meaningless.
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>>59195688
the term has existed for nearly 4 years

you do not even know the definition of "buzzword" retard
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>>59195653
>Tbh
How did that not turn into "desu"?
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>>59195685
No, they don’t
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>>59194490
made up term by poopdickschizo who uses it to describe people he doesn't like playing the game in a way he personally doesn't approve of. AKA only faggots say campaignshitter
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ULTRA 1 SHITTER
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Saying that Ice needs to be buffed makes Kojo very upset for someone reason.
Why is this?
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>>59195811
Because it implies that modern Game Freak is doing something wrong and makes him feel insecure about the shovelware he's made into his entire personality.
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>>59195576
He's Canadian and brown. If anything he's protected by his shitty government.
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>>59194490
Yawnfag trying to force his patented buzzword. It doesn't mean anything
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>>59195713
Dunno Tbh DESU desu tbH TbH
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>>59195998
>it doesn't mean anything
>that's why I get assblasted whenever I get called one
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>>59196053
It’s patently inferior to calling someone a pver or carebear. Literally a gayer version of what already exists. Only a dumb kike marry it to its ego this pathetically and push it this hard
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Yawnfag will call you a campaignshitter, but he will never show what his rank is or provide proof he even plays the games. I doubt he has Champions downloaded, I doubt he has a Switch at all.
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>>59194664
Those things that can be reset and then easily grinded to competitive distributions in minutes?
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>>59195776
MASTER 4 BABYYY
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>>59195696
Wow its like you have absolutely no idea what I said at all
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>>59194490
Just schizo mad because someone plays story mode instead of joining a pisscord so they can show their "perfect" pokemon on online battles that just took them 40 thousand hours to raise.
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>>59195250
How is people asking for megas to have good abilities the same as people asking for a mega to have an ability that does absolutely nothing for it.
I feel for emboarfags
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>>59196053
>be me
>make thread about regulation F
>retarded yawnie dawnie appears
>calls me a "campaignshitter" despite me being in master rank
>calls it fanfic meta
You just care about the replies yawnie
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>>59194490
Anyone who isn't a compfag
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>>59195239
>Taking "smogshit" tierings at face value with no added context
The real campaignshitter was within you all along
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>>59194490
It's one of yawnfag's catchphrases.
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>>59194500
It’s new because I don’t remember seeing that term used here before
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>>59194490
It's mostly used by thirdies and poorfags who only "play Pokémon" on Showdown cause they can't afford the new games. They cope by calling everyone who plays the actual games (the "campaign") shitty players to feel superior when they're not even good at showdown either in the vast majority of cases. It's just sour grapes.
Sometimes it's also just used as a meaningless buzzword because this board is full of ESLs and actual children.
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>>59195720
Yes they do, nigger
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>>59195826
>modern Game Freak
How can it be exclusive to modern Game Freak if it was like this the whole time?
Also Ice was originally supposed to resist Fairy in the XY beta.
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>>59194490
From what I understand is a term made by one schizo (or multiple schizos). It's supposed to make fun of casual players.
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its "campain" "shitter" and its a word reserved for fags in left dead 4 2 who are "playing" versus but clearly belong in campain mode and thus are campain shitters
feel free to continue being faggots
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Is Yawn a good move in competetive Pokémon or is the move more suitable for Campaignshitters little "adventures"?
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>>59199303
It's good, delaying the turn your opponent falls asleep can be a better opening to set up a sweep
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>>59194490
A person who knows there's more to Pokemon than Showdown.
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>>59194490
I thought it was for retards that take the singleplayer campaigns too seriously by playing by made up rules and or
optimizing their team like they would for multi-player without ever have actually engaged with it.
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>>59199639
That'll generally force them to switch, which does give you a free turn.
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>>59195258
this image was made when ss was currentgen
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>>59199697
So basically that “pro nuzlocker” german faggot who ruins the spirit of nuzlockes by optimizing the fun away and acting like it should be some competitive game with a “meta”
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>>59195024
Lmao you are such an autist.
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>>59200157
Nah I’m just not dogshit at toddler games.
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>>59195010
Good. See. XY mostly just has NPCs with weak shit or shit with terrible movesets.

Meanwhile most other games have something strong somewhere
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>>59194960
TRVKE
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>>59194490
it's just another buzzword for
>people who disagree with me
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>>59200151
Kind of, I think it's moreso for guys that insist that you play with their arbitrary rules in regular playthroughs, not just challenge runs and get upset when you don't.

Also i do agree Nuzlocke YouTube fags absolutely ruined nuzlocking and retro pokemon discussion.
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Campaignshitter:
- people's who favorite Pokemon is animalistic like Zebstrika or Samurott
- people who say that Pokemon like Aurorus need to be buffed
- people who want Frostbite back
- people who say that Ice needs new resistances
- people who say that Bug is weak

It's a shitty buzzword that's been actively forced since 2023 because Kojo doesn't have a life.
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>>59200655
Each point is completely random and arbitrary bullshit, wtf are you talking about
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A campaignshitter is someone who shits campaigns
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>>59194507
CampaignCHADS sound pretty based to me
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I'm proud to be a campaignshitter because it means mogging the champion of whatever region I play with my gooner team
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>>59194490
Why are you taking those people seriously? Someone who complains about people that actually play the games properly is obviously a retard. The term is only used by battle autists and poorfags. So whenever someone uses that term, ignore them. Their opinion is worthless. It doesn't matter what the word means because it actually means very little.
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>>59200835
It is literally one guy shitposting.
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>>59200853
Maybe one guy started it, but many people copied him and use the word unironically. Either way, they're worthless opinions.
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>>59200869
It's literally one guy. He types in the exact same way in every thread he infests, has been doing so for years, and has been discovered to have been making the exact same kind of posts on reddit and twitter as he does here.
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>>59200835
I didn’t know being terrible at the games is a prerequisite to “playing them properly”
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>>59200889
The games are for 8 year olds, anon. You can't play them "wrong", they're piss easy. You're being elitist about a toy for children.
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>>59200900
>You can't play them "wrong", they're piss easy
If campaignshitters actually thought this they wouldn’t be perpetually screeching about difficulty in the newer games.
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>>59200910
Literally no one does that.
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>>59200918
https://archive.palanq.win/vp/search/text/Xy%20difficulty/
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>>59200871
He also refers to Smogon as fanfiction, just like on here.
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>>59200938
>He also refers to Earth as a planet
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>>59200939
Why are you typing in third person?
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>>59200930
Okay, and? What does saying that the games are too easy have to do with being "terrible at the games"? These two things are completely unrelated. They're literally children's games, obviously they're easy for any adult player.
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>>59200958
>Okay, and?
Okay and you’re a retarded disingenuous liar.

>obviously they're easy for any adult player.
If campaignshitters actually thought this they wouldn’t be perpetually screeching about difficulty in the newer games.
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>>59200195
Lmao

No, you are THE KING OF TODDLER GAMES! CONGRATS TODDLERKING!
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>>59200968
Lol, where did I lie?
All I see in the link is people saying the games are too easy. Are you illiterate?
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Yawnie is literally incapable of comparing two things in a vacuum.
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>>59200976
>Lol, where did I lie?
>>59200918
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>>59200938
Smogon is fanfiction, though.
It's not supported by any official source connected to Pokémon.
It's not some generic insult, it's just a fact.
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>>59200968
Let's say hypothetically one game has a difficulty of say 3/10 and another has a difficulty of 1/10.
You'd say both games are easy, but one is clearly easier than the other.
That's the issue.
The question is, why would someone who thinks the games are easy would want the games to be even easier?
Unless it's some kind of weird projection to make you feel like the bigger man, instead of admitting you suck at a kid's game.
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>>59201007
>You'd say both games are easy, but one is clearly easier than the other.
Clicking A against a gym leader three times is not clearly easier than clicking A against a gym leader three times.

The issue is you’re dogshit at Pokemon games, so you think in the older game the gym leader requires more effort than clicking A three times.
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>>59200980
You implied people complain about the game being too difficult. No one did that, as I said.
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>>59201010
It's way easier to get to a point in XY where you can just click A 3 times with all of the handouts given to you.
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>>59200989
Then stop using it as an insult.
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>>59201048
>You implied people complain about the game being too difficult
Ah, so you’re just an illiterate retard. Now it all makes sense.

>>59201051
You’re given a “handout” that curb stomps the entire game 1 minute into every game.
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>>59201061
Who said it’s an insult? It’s telling that you’re interpreting it that way.
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>>59201069
XY's handouts are even better than the starters.
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>>59201061
The only time it's used as an insult is when Smogfags start acting like their fangame is the main PvP format(s), even though most people don't even know who they are.
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>>59201073
>clicking A against the gym leader three times is even better than clicking A against the gym leader three times
See? You’re doing it again.
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>>59201085
The setup to getting to that point in XY is far faster and easier than in any other game.



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