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Why do competitively good Pokemon always have to have absolute dogshit designs? It seems like this has been the trend since gen 5.
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>>59197942
Talonflame was decent
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>>59197942
Garchomp and Tyranitar are right there
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>>59197942
I hate this thing so fucking much a complete fucking downgrade from Weavile
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>>59197942 >>59197978 >>59197942
Gene didn't draw any of those drawings I showed you
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>>59197997
>[good design] and [good design] are right there
damn OP is right it did start in gen 5
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>>59197942
Looks like a reject Seasme Street character
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>>59197942
>lock the strongest pokemon in the game behind a spinoff with no multiplayer
>pokeborts will pretend this isn’t pay2win
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>>59197978
Oh fuck off with your shit buzzwords you sodomite.
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>>59198010
If there wasn't another reason to hate Champions, between this abomination and Mega Floette being broken pos
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At least vp loves Rillaboom.
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>>59198010
Do you need to play ZA to get the mega stone or can you just scam an E-Floette off of some jap with a shiny?
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>>59198026
That's all I need to know about this place to never take it seriously
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>>59197942
>It seems like this has been the trend since gen 5.
At least some oldmons are seeing redemption
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>>59198041
>she doesn’t know
also floette is weaker than sneedler so who care
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>>59197942
This wouldn't be that bad if it wasn't for the weird vitiligo blob on its face, but it's still not better than Weavile.
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>>59198055
>Aggron is good
>Froslass is good
>Glimmora is good
Sneedler is one of the worst designs in the franchise, but otherwise this meta has actually been favorable for muh bros.
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>>59197942
Who is this adult woman
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>>59198055
people only care about its nugen busted form tho
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>>59198076
>shillmon with super sayian shill forms are good in comp
no shit Sherlock
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>>59197942
>Why do competitively good Pokemon always have to have absolute dogshit designs?
Not a problem for me as a campaignGOD!
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>>59198138
Are you the same anon who cries about Meganium somehow being a shillmon?
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>>59198150
>has a mega instead of a regional form
>was made to be busted in comp
that’s shillmon 101
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>>59197942
Snearlse is better than Weavile at least
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>>59198150
The mindbreaking began last year and only became worse from there.
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>>59197942
Nah Sneasler is great, it's like it knows it is a broken piece of shit and is bratty about it. Just look at its expression
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Someone on here the other day drew a picture of Sneasler with Sneasel's shorter proportions, if anyone has it could they repost it? It ended up looking too much like Sneasel, but it didn't look bad.
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>>59198005
Can't unsee kek
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>>59197942
Sneasler >>>> Weavile
She's cute
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>>59197942
Gamefreak developer logic: if design is good then it doesn't need special treatment to be popular. If the pokemon is underrated (in their opinion) and ugly then at the very least they'll try making it useful competitively. Shillmons have to be shilled, early route mons are usually suppose to be bad, pseudo legendary mons are have to be strong, etc.
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>>59198055
>aggron is “good” but only the mega
Monkey paw
>frosslass is good but only the mega
Alright since the design is nice at least
Being bossgodra has always been suffering
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>>59198133
>>59199976
While I still prefer its base design I consider Aggron to be one of the better megas so its reliance on it isnt as damning as say, toiletgatr
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>>59199908
>Gamefreak developer logic
Its actually gacha logic, which makes sense because both gacha games and pokemon were inspired by pachinko machines. Gacha games will usually make the least popular characters broken to force people to pull for them since those people were gonna pull on the popular characters regardless of their viability.
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>>59197942
Who is she? Where is the pokemon? Is she behind the model?
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>>59199908
They just like tossing in some broken mons each time they're doing a DLC or side game with few newcomers, to make those few Pokémon stand out and encourage people to get the dlc/side game. Urshifu and Calyrex are the perfect examples, both were carefully built to be broken
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>>59197942
her and incineshit looks like luney toons characters
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>>59197942
I think the only terrible design since gen V has been Goldengo, and if you want argue Aegislash.
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>>59197942
It's the inverse of using a Pokemon with bad stats because it's your favorite
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>>59197942
How I wish Sneasel was in it's place, either regular or hisuian, Sneasler it's such a fucking downgrade
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>>59197942
pic unrelated i assume
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>>59198010
>catch sneasel in SV
>move sneasel to home
>put up sneasel in GTS on home phone app, asking for hisuian sneasal
>wait like 10 minutes, order fulfilled
seems easy enough chief, I got all the hisuian forms like this
the real issue is you can't get the kalos starter mega stones in champions without transferring the kalos starters that are SPECIFICALLY in ZA
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>>59201206
>the real issue is you can't get the kalos starter mega stones in champions without transferring the kalos starters that are SPECIFICALLY in ZA
All those mons a catchable legitimately in sv tho unlike sneedler who is locked to a spinoff unless you use trade gacha
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>>59198041
Sending an E Floette is enough. I mean it has to be an E Floette “from Legends ZA” but that’s the only place it can be from so that’s a non-issue in this case.
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>>59199998
>this CHEERLEADER, this ENTREPRENEUR
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>>59201920
yeah but actually
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>>59197942
Why do you dislike smug longcat?

I actually like this one.
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>>59201920
false
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>>59202588
Mad because it's not a generic cartoon cat
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>>59199976
At least Aggron has that going for him. Bastiodon suffers from the same problem and can't go anywhere despite having the same exact moveset mega aggron has.
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>>59202661
Aggron at least has head smash for a meme set, 80 accuracy and a dream.
I wish rock resisted fairy or ghost just for it to have a niche. Making aggron, bastiodon and probobass quad resist fairy would be a flex.
>>59202619
I can't see anything wrong with sneasler, it's cute and goofy.
It's a sloth, it's a weasel, it's a cat and it looks cute with clothes. Literally a slam dunk of a design like weavile before it.
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>>59202661
>Bastiodon suffers from the same problem and can't go anywhere despite having the same exact moveset mega aggron has
inb4 Kojo
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>>59202682
>I wish rock resisted fairy or ghost just for it to have a niche. Making aggron, bastiodon and probobass quad resist fairy would be a flex.
Speaking of Fairy it was originally supposed to be resisted by Ice in the gen 6 beta.
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>>59202713
That would have made so much sense since fire resists it.

If fairy was resisted by ice, rock poison steel and fire it would have been a good world.
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>>59198211
Both it and weaville have arrogant pro gamer energy.
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>>59198055
>goes from ‘has been completely worthless for the last 20+ years’ to ‘kind of decent but generally not worth the mega slot’
Feels good man
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>>59198005
>>59199462
>That time in the 90's when Sesame Street tried attracting an older audience
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>>59198010
>Series where at least 2 slightly different copies of the game must be sold in order to 100% the game(s)
>pay2win
Noooooooooooo wait really?
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Can I get a QRD on Sneasler and Mega Floette? Who are these new mons, why are they broken?
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>>59204296
>Sneasler
Fast, hits hard, Intimidate immune, has a broken signature move that was buffed, amazing support moves
>Floette
Fairy Aura
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>>59204296
Light of ruin + Fairy Aura pretty much 1 shots any mon in the game right now
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>>59204737
>>59204747
Wait wait, you mean that Fairy Hyper Beam clone that etenral Floette got years ago? It got a mega with fucking FAIRY AURA on top of it? God damn.

Sneasler just sounds like a lucky case of just the right stuff for the current meta.
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>>59204753
Adding to waht makes Floette so hated, you can only get her via ZA's post game, meaning you have to buy that game, and play it for 50+ hours to transfer her in.
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>>59204737
How is it immune to Intimidate?
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>>59198026
Rillaboom is a disgusting creature. And it’s fucking minmaxed too. I don’t ever want to hear someone say “b-but little Timmy needs two attacking stats” when this stupid fucker exists.
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>>59204747
>>59204753
Meanwhile Mega Meowstic gets Trace for some stupid reason,
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>>59198055
Where does the meme of argon not being a shitmon anymore originates from?
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>>59204814
Everyone KNOWS that it should have been named Bongorilla, but ooh no no we couldn't have that. "Rillaboom" just feels like a cheap knockoff name.

>>59204817
Hey Trace can be clutch.
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>>59204069
Yet another 2 stage mon permanently cucked out of an actual evolution because of a fotm gimmick
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>>59204836
Pretty sure its some old shofu video. I’ve seen it recommended on youtube but never watched it
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>>59204296
>sneasler
>new mons
damn, everyone really did skipped pla huh
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>>59204843
>Everyone KNOWS that it should have been named Bongorilla, but ooh no no we couldn't have that.
Even if they wanted to, it was already taken:
https://invizipedia.fandom.com/wiki/Bongorilla
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>>59204852
I abandoned it after the massive disappointment of sword and shield. I've seen tangential stuff about mons like Urshifu and Gholdengo, but most of it is new to me.
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>>59204848
>fotm
Megas are forever
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>>59204737
>Intimidate immune
But it's not? White Herb Unburden is a very good set on it but anyone can use the item and it only works once.
>has a broken signature move that was buffed
It was nerfed and a 20% reduction is a lot. The fact that the move is still broken after being nerfed so hard is a testament to how absurd it used to be.
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>>59198026
Everyone hates the ass drum monkey.
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>>59205319
>Poison Jab
>Poison Jab, except it has the same 30% chance to inflict a status as Scald did
>Which status? All 3 because why not lol
>This is "nerfed hard" because it's not a coinflip anymore
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>>59205412
Dire Claw went from the stupid 50% down to 30%, which is still a lot but getting sleep is now a lot less consistent than it was.
What's unbelievable is that it used to be so high. I wouldn't be surprised if it's lowered even further to 20% or has an accuracy hit in the future.



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