Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch with a mobile release later. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.Switch 2 users: Launch the game in handheld mode or undock/redock to get the performance boost>NewsMaintenance on April 23 from 3:00 to 6:00 UTC (probably new patch)Champion Tier & Master ranks 1-3 unlocked for current seasonWarm Up Challenge competition over, Gardevoir reward availableFree Machamp mystery gift code: CHAMP10NMobile release possibly leaked for June>Linkshttps://champions.pokemon.com/en-us/https://x.com/Pokemon_Champs (EN) https://x.com/Poke_Champ_jp (JP)Pokémon data: https://serebii.net/pokedex-champions/Available mons: https://www.serebii.net/pokemonchampions/pokemon.shtmlMega abilities: https://serebii.net/pokemonchampions/megaabilities.shtmlResources: https://pikalytics.com/Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 quick coupons, 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Mega Kalos starters and E-Floette require ZA transfer.Previous: >>59203705
Everytime I face a kingambit they do nothing and die. I can't even remember the last time it ko'd a pokemon
How the hell do people reach Master tier in this game?
>>59208103Play during American hours so you don't have to deal with jap bullshit those people are on some shit
>>59208119I played during Nip Hours as a Spic and I got to Master Ball Rank.Might be because none of them know what to do about Gyarados Thunderwaving and Taunting their entire team.
>>59208139Non-prankster taunt is the strongest move in the game right now
>>59208145Taunt aero is so funny.
>>59208083kinda lazy OP desu>didnt update the previous patch notes>>59203731>didnt update the new global challenge or the new roster>>>59207691>Maintenance on April 23 from 3:00 to 6:00 UTC (probably new patch)still have this line
>kicked out of my bot match for maintenance Kill me pete
>>59208160But it's the 24th?
I wanted to use gallade so I threw together a team, and the first game I played went exactly how I wanted it to and it was amazing. Wide guard + trick room standing next to zard y is hilarious.
>>59208160you think that's bad, this>Switch 2 users: Launch the game in handheld mode or undock/redock to get the performance boosthas been in the OP since launch even though it makes no sense/makes no difference
>>59208195It's muh birthday!
>>59208195>>59208204If you guys want a pastebin/rentry for the OP, just say so, but from last thread people arent really all that receptive on my new player guide so much. I take it generals in vp is slower and more free-for-all than in vg where its so fast there, so having dedicated OP pastes is more important.All im saying is, maybe there needs to have a discussion if you guys want to keep it as is, and just manually remind the OP maker to update it, or make a paste for it, though both is fine on my end.
I went from a sand team to a sand team/trick room counter hybrid. Now I'm just pure offense and every other pokemon has helping hand. It's working pretty well.
>>59208160Sorry, I'm subbing in today
I'm so angry that you can only get Delphoxite from Z-A. I recruited a Delphox thinking it would be cool to try Mega Delphox and I can't use it :(
>>59208139>>59208150Can confirm both of these. Stuck in the same time zone as the Asians by virtue of being trapped in the land down under and they’ll ream you if you bring anything currently in the meta spotlight. The second you bring stuff like support Gyarados, Taunt on Aero, hyper offense Corviknight, etc. then you’re the one causing them extreme anal devastation. On the topic of that last one, it finally fucking happened on egg 2,656 because I didn’t realise I’d put a nip Ditto in with a nip Rookidee because I’m pants-on-head retarded.
>>59208304>un-Masuda'd your methodWell congrats anyway anon, gj. Shiny corvi looks so good, I might go back and do swsh masuda for a shiny dragapult
>>59208304Congrats on the shiny, sorry to hear about your cognitive abilities.
I fucking hate Archaludon.
Are they seriously just going to leave the game running at an inconsistent 30 FPS forever?
>>59208302This is how I made master rank yesterday. Some people just can't deal with mega aero spamming slide with the boosted spdef from sand.
WTF ILCA. This is trans genocide.
>9 win streak got brokenI think I beat this guy before so he probably got his revenge on me
>>59208263I liked it.Don't see why there shouldn't be a guide for newfags.Kinda don't know what to add or to say since I'm a newfag myself.
>>59208373thanks for the sentiment, i do mean it.well, any input really is worth it. Maybe you wish you knew how important priority is and why fake out beats prankster, or why prankster failed on incineroar or maybe you wish someone told you how to beat common threats or something.If the thought of >huh i wish i knew that beforeever arose, id like to know.
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>>59208263Sure, I dont see why we wouldn't have one. Given the number of anons who are clearly getting slimed left and right, there's no reason not to.
https://x.com/DaWoblefet/status/2047505875221311837At launch, damage calcs only had 15 rolls with the lowest being removed, but the latest patch fixed it back to the standard 16 rolls. How many random unintended mechanics changes and bugs exist that we might never discover, I wonder. ILCA+Unity combo taking a nice little dump on decades of well made battle mechanics.
>>59208392Still astonishing you can fuck up a simple turn by turn battle system that has barely changed in two decades
I hope they will anounce in advance which mons will be entering the new reg so i can prep and perhaps breed some mons.
Is Machamp not viable for trick room teams? I thought he would hit like a truck but he barely even kills anything
>pull H-ZoroarkNeat!>needs to run Focus Miss for coveragePass
>>59208382I liked to watch vgc and other comp content before the game came out so I did know a decent amount before actually trying comp myself.If there is still something I have no clue about is picking what 4 mons to bring.So far I just bring the same 4 mons in every match without really making use of team preview.Maybe also ways to deal with some common threats like sleep powder chlorophyl venusaur, tips against how to win weather wars so my team won't get obliterated by blizzard spam mega frosslass or how to deal with tailwind from whimsicott.Especially whimsicott gives me a lot of grieve so most of my mons have zero speed investment and have max hp/attack besides the dedicates speedfags like sneasler and basc and I just try to play around the fact that my opponent will be faster when they lead with whimsicott.Honestly the main reason why sleep powder venusaur isn't giving me more issues is, because I rarely encounter it anymore.I mostly got by by using strong mons like sneasler, pelipper, arch and basc who basically can deal with anything the game throws at youMy go to way of dealing with weather is to always lead with basc and flipturn into pelipper.
>>59208408>no Mac Punch>no Iron Fist>no Wide GuardPlay Conk or Mega-Crabominable.
>>59208426Aw but I like Machamp. I have one in a friend ball that I caught back in heartgold.
>>59208408Mono Fighting is just a shit type and Fighting in general is kinda awkward in the current meta. You can at least give it Stone Edge for a 100% accurate Charizard killer.
>>59208302Can I reach Masters with this strategy? 90% accuracy can't be that bad, right?
>>59208426It gets bullet punch but not mach punch.The hell is that about?
>>59208410huh? It has plenty of coverage. It even gets Flamethrower. The only mon down bad enough to use Focus Miss is Alakazam.
>>59208423Also I wish I knew how important wide guard was.I knew it was a good move, but I had no idea it could clutch this hard.
>>59208451It's not THAT bad I guess, without Focus Blast only Ttar truly gives it trouble and Grass Knot can still 2HKO
>>59208410>gets flamethrower, sludge bomb, good stab, etc>great support movepool including taunt, will o and icy wind>immune to fake out, e speed, shadow sneak>"BUT MUH FOCUS MISS!!!!"you might have brain damage
I love Infernape so much. It's such a versatile pokemon. Unfortunately it is too slow and weak to be great but it is fast and strong enough not to be terrible.
>>59208423>If there is still something I have no clue about is picking what 4 mons to bringSee this is something that can be worked on. Only problem is, right now being the sole writer of the rentry, i have to simultaneously balance explaining the thought processes of team preview while figuring out how to keep it legible and perhaps draw up diagrams explaining it all.For all topics I plan on doing really. Preferably there already exists a resource for this, but for the mind games aspect of pokemon, only youtube videos are the only ones which comes to mind.>>59208453For move selections, it comes and goes with the meta. Which is doable, but might need some thoughts behind it,Thanks for sharing your insight. Ill see what i can do with this later on. As for the OP paste as addressed here (>>59208263) does anyone else have opinions on it? So far we have one Yay. Any Nays out there to making a paste OP?
>>59208426>Guts>Wide guard>Bullet punchEh, close enough
>>59208473He does have Wide Guard, my apologies to any Machamp I may have offended.
Do I build a sand or snow team for doubles?
>>59208488Snow seems easier and more straightforward with mega froslass.
>>59208408why would you use machamp for trick room teams instead of conkeldurr for a fighting type? literally better at everything machamp wants to do except SpD. even gets the elemental punches and iron fist.
what's your best placement so far bros? yesterday i was outside of the top 100k, and now i'm back in the top 20k.
Are there any good english content creators for singles like Wolfey is for doubles with at least like 2200+ rating and can compete with the japs?Most singles vids are see are scubs playing at like subhuman ratings
>>59208521to be fair, only subhumans would play singles competitively
>>59208508I am currently 9300 something place with an elo of 1960 something.Highest elo I have ever gotten.
>>59208523But where else do you get to really go in on entry hazard?
>>59208521best for singles(BSS) you can do is japs, all actual singles players just play showdown
>>59208410What does Focus Miss cover for?
>>59208560Kingambit and tar I guess.
I need the most aggressive answer to Archaludon. I simply NEED IT.
>>59208588Mega Camerupt with trick room
>>59208588Aura sphere archaludon.
>>59208588>aggresiveMega lucario will send him to the moon
>>59208596FUCK YOU
How often will they update the membership? They are sitting on a goldmine with the potential music additions
>>59208560Archaludon and T-tar
In master ball why isn't my placement going up
Why the FUCK is gts only available the pokemon home app?Why can't I acces gts on my switch?
>>59208623because you bought it anyways.
>>59208623Game freak thinks a console and mobile version should be two halves of one product instead of just the same thing twice
>>59208632I can't wait to see how the mobile version of champions is different. Maybe new flavors of bugs :^)
I think sleep is too powerful
>>59208647That's why they nerfed it, silly!
I really wish I could make hazards a thing in VGC.
>>59208672Rocks break focus sash and fuck charizard at least, both of which are ubiquitous at the moment. Doubles move slots are tight, but it's not the worst thing you could be doing.
>>59208672toxic debris ability but for stealth rock>>59208682it's really funny to me that everyone considers charizard y to be a threat, since i've been running mega ttar from day one and i eat them for breakfast
>>59208686I honestly don't think it's all that, but it's all over high level play so I'm probably just bad.
>keep trying to build fun teams based on my favorites.>tank elo to 1.2k in masters>copy a sand team instead of making my own>already back to 1.5k on a 10 win streakwhew lads
>>59208705rate my sand teamit got me to master ball rank 3
>>59208713you gotta run the mole man, he's too good in sand not to run. I tried to make Lycanroc work so hard but my god Exedrill is so much better.This is the team that's given me a 10 game win streak. Still going but I need some food.https://www.vrpastes.com/Ch7kj77A
>>59208515I started at top 70k but fell to 90k after a net 2 losses. What team are you using?
>>59208713You look like you get rolled by fairy types and milotic. I can relate, my team gets fucked by the tea. I keep going back and forth on dropping dragonite for something else, but it's very nice against the rain matchup which is a massive problem otherwise.
>>59208672H-Samurott and Kleavor both exist for this reason
>>59208762https://pokepast.es/fe97b29a2840dc76Forgot my paste like a dumbass
>opponent tries his 30% chance of flinching my Trick-room setter>but also tries to reverse Trick-roomSome people are wild.
>>59208762i don't have anything that ohko's milotic but he doesn't do great against me either. we usually either chip each other down in an endurance war (i win) or i manage to land a thunder (i win)i used to think i had a good matchup with fairies but floette beat me twice today, they are getting smarter in avoiding getting encored by whimsicott
>>59208515I keep thinking I need to fix things but it keeps working so whatever I guess
>>59208765Elaborate.
>>59208822signature attack that also sets up hazards
>>59208822Both have a move that attack and sets hazards as secondary effect.Samurott's sets spikes while kleavor sets sneaky pebbles.Both moves gets boosted by their ability sharpness.
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>>59208836>>59208841I will try this retarded team, thank you.
>>59208780If you take my 30% chance to undo Trick Room and combine it with my 130% chance to undo Trick Room. That's a 130% chance that I undo Trick Room.
>>59208713>sand team>look inside>5 meta mons + mega T-TarA-at least Chomp has Sand Veil, that makes it a sand team right?I don't get sand teams, when I built one myself my t-tar couldn't take a sneeze without dropping to 25%, but every time I face one that fucker eats hits like candy and always have some move out of left-field that perfectly counters me.
>make stupid play>win because opponent never thought I would make a stupid play like thatBellcurve iq gaming.
>>59208873Max hp/atk vs max atk/speed
>>59208848I've tried so hard to use H. Samurott in my teams, I love the mon and his dark/water typing but it feels like anything he can do Kingambit can do ten times better.
>>59208874Legit once you get to a point where opponents really know what they are doing you need to play like a total dumbass sometimes. I've gotten fairly high rating in random vgc formats on showdown from just playing like an unga bunga when the opponent expects me to do tactical protects and fake outs.
>>59208882VBC is a lot like other competitive strategy/card games where the most dangerous thing is your opponent doing something you didn't expect or plan for. Running even a one-off tech card in HS or a curveball sideboard in MTG can swing a match in your favor. I put too much stock in my opponents making smart moves that when they make obvious ones I end up playing myself.
>>59208874I misclicked Shell Smash a second time yesterday, got KO'd and forfeited
>>59208881I really like the water dark typing + aqua jet is very nice in this meta. I've gotten some progress just opening the game by spamming ceaseless edge until rott dies>>59208882I think thats the wrong way to think about it. You're not "playing worse on purpose," you're taking a risk based on conventional wisdom and play patterns. To that end, not overthinking is important too and you have to contrast what you think your opponents optimal play is vs what they think your optimal play is
>>59208882At some point, people start thinking they need to make big predictions to be good, but they often don't take into account if they need to be predicting in the first place and what will happen if it goes wrong.
>flexible team with options>rigid meme setup that you have to perform just right every timeWhich way /vp/
>>59208891I'd say that is more comparable to teambuilding and not how you actually play.Which that still applies. People are hitting Champion tier with crazy strategies. You see an opponent with the standard team of metamons and it's not big deal. But run into a high mmr guy with a mega Hawlucha? You are in for some shit.
>>59208904>>rigid meme setup that you have to perform just right every timeThis one of course. By the very nature of playing non-meta Pokemon, this is the only option.
Once I reach master I will try using my leafeon wife
>>59208924You can use him in casuals
Runerigus is funny>get hit by Incineroar>free Intimidate>get hit by Kingamit>no more Defiant>random transfer of abilities even after dyingI'm looking forward to using more Galar Pokemon that sucked ass in dyn*max meta and weren't in SV
>>59208750Thoughts on mold breaker Excadrill? To deal with Rotom Wash.
>don't want to play, because I don't wamt to fuck up my mid ass elo.I really just need to fucking forfeit like 10 times and get it over with.
>>59208927how bad was dynamax meta?from my use of it in single player seems like you just dragon dance then dynamax for bigger HP and 100% accuracy buffed attacks, like Z-moves on crack?
>my coba berry bulky whimsicott can tank a corviknight brave bird and garchomp iron headthe world is not ready for this much power
>>59208103Master is easy. It’s Champion that’s impossible. They need to adjust it. Last I checked, only the top 300 are in Champion tier. IMO the ELO system shouldn’t even start until Champion rank, especially since there’s content locked behind it. That, or the top 10,000 (at a minimum) should be champion rank instead of only 300.>>59208410HZ doesn’t need Focus Miss. Personally, mine currently has Shadow Ball, Flamethrower, Hyper Beam, and Nasty Plot. Psychic and Sludge Bomb are other good options.
>>59208927This guy taught me the joy of ally switching.Yeah its just worse follow me most of the time, but its so much funnier.
>>59208934Unless you think you have a genuine shot at top 300, there’s no reason to care about your ELO. I had a really rough losing streak with terrible luck one night and went from 20,000th place to 100,000th. >>59208960Ally Switch is also fun on Farigiraf. They expect the Trick Room, but since the rest of my team is relatively speedy and runs tailwind, I mostly just use Ally Switch and Helping Hand on it.
>>59208925Casuals don't give VPs, it feels like a waste of time instead of messing around in master.
Howdy there, Sugarcube!
>>59208515top 2k
WHERE'S THAT GUY WITH THE THUNDERSTRUCK INCINEROAR SHINY. TRADE ME IT. I REQUIRE IT.
>>59209001I've avoided hunting for rare marks because I have a feeling they will add some bullshit in gen10 that makes getting them super easy.
>>59209009Maybe. that'd be fine too. I just play with themed teams.
>>59208976I'm in the top 10k at the moment.Which I hate since champion rank doesn't feel impossible, but also not very likely.
>>59208947>statistically overpowered>blocked so many cool mechanics>opened up broken strategies that clearly weren't intended like self proc Weakness PolicyYeah not looking forward to it coming back, maybe they'll rebalance it though
>>59208958>Last I checked, only the top 300 are in Champion tier. IMO the ELO system shouldn’t even start until Champion rank, especially since there’s content locked behind it. That, or the top 10,000 (at a minimum) should be champion rank instead of only 300.I disagree.That would make it just a participation award.
>>59209016They need to redesign all the dynamax moves that give stat buffs. The snowball effect was honestly the biggest issue with the gimmick.
Also if ya'll have sodden or thunderstruck dudes feel free to post them here, I've got literally everything
>>59208991To me Kitt has the evil AJ voice from Tamers
>>59208304Were you the guy who couldn’t get rng to work?
>>59208713how many times does this need to be repeated, the rank in master ball does not matter, only the number does. there's times, even confirmed by people here, where you lose a game and you GAIN a rank for seemingly no reason. or you win a game and go down a rank. ranks/tiers absolutely do not matter until you're a rank/tier 1 because that means you're likely going to cycle in and out of champion rank at some point
Fast ball Incineroar woohoo
>>59209065What the hell are you talking about, the rank just has a delayed update.
>>59209080the rank is completely irrelevant. wolfe has multiple videos now where he is 1900 - 2200, and his tier says he's in masterball 4, when he hops into champion tier the next match.only your elo number matter in masterball.
>>59209096It's an edited video dummy. Master Ball rank # is directly tied to elo/rating.
I got my first shiny in champions today when doing the daily recruitment. I only wish it hadn't of came when I happened to want a Galarian Slowking which appeared at the same time in the line-up.
>>59209111Bro I'll give you a galarian slowking for free if you want one that bad
>>59209104>Master Ball rank # is directly tied to elo/rating.i'm realizing i've brainfarted and i meant tier, not rank. like masterball tier 1/2/3/4 is irrelevant, only rank/elo matters, yes.my bad, i need sleep.
>>59209111>hadn't ofshould of is already wrong. i don't even know how the fuck you've grammatically skullfucked this badly. "had not of" my brother in christ, what the fuck are you saying.