Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch with a mobile release later. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026. >NewsNewest Patch Notes: https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/71525/2026 Global Challenge I Online Competition happening now. Double Battles. Participants gets a Venusaur: https://news.pokemon-home.com/en/page/743.htmlGlobal Challenge 2026 Special Roster Released: https://serebii.net/pokemonchampions/recruit/globalchallenge2026specialroster.shtmlChampion Tier & Master ranks 1-3 unlocked for current seasonFree Machamp mystery gift code: CHAMP10NMobile release possibly leaked for June: https://xcancel.com/CentroLeaks/status/2041378934739108104 >Resources and useful linkshttps://champions.pokemon.com/en-us/Community Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enNew Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback) Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 quick coupons, 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Mega Kalos starters and E-Floette require ZA transfer. >/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPhPrevious: >>59211807
Massive online tourney atmhttps://www.twitch.tv/skrawvgchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTtPc58pm3s
Why did they make it so every type that resists fairy is also weak to ground?
Sableye is good because of quash, run flip turn and aqua jet to run away from sylveon or destroy mega gardevoir respectively. Everything else folds to mega kick once you get gravity up.I guess Kingambit in the back for when you flip turn. Or sneasler. For speed control Id run both a tailwind setter and trick room cause feraligatr is quite literally in the middle of both
Sableye is so fucking annoying to play against, but I love using him too.His viable move pool with prankster makes every sableye a complete guessing game. You should remove sableyes on sight or they can win games very fast with willowisp or quash or screens or gravity or encore or taunt or fakeout or trick or thunder wave.
>>59215792This shit is a major reason why Steel/Flying is the best defensive type in the game. Run Corviknight.
>>59215794>Quash on Sableye>Twin Beam on FarigirafGet fucked, Sneedler
>>59215791They’re killing mothers
It's not fun annoying people with Umbreon anymore
>>59215792there was no thought put into the fairy typing, they just made something that countered dragon and called it a day
I've trying out Mega Scovillain. He's actually so much fun to use. Especially when I go up against very Phys Atk heavy teams. I feel like Oprah handing out burns.
WATCHOG NUMBAH ONE
Shit Game
Gliscors typing would be perfect for a support mon on my team.Anybody tried a support set glisc? Tailwind is bretty good but I'm not sure what else to give it other than stab moves
>>59215872Gliscor would actually have been a fantastic mon in this meta IF IT FUCKING HAD ITS ITEM.
>>59215878I have a t-tar on my team too so at least i could get some value out of sand veil
>>59215878you said it bestie
>>59215791I just finished my last match. I went 10-5.
>>59215878Juat manually toxic/will o on their double protect, lil bro
>>59215863I’ve been trying him out lately too, and when he works it’s a breeze, but I struggle with him when I have a bad lead matchup or when he has to come out when I’m a Mon down because he has to take so much damage in order to do his thing. What’s your set like? I basically Rage Powder to spread the first two Burns and then my moveset seems to flounder around and not accomplish much. >>59215878This also annoys the fuck out of me, it’s pure evil that Gliscor would be a monster in this format but we just can’t use him, he’s one of my favorite mons
How do I speedrun ZA Royale to get Mega Floette?
>>59215900You go on twitch and have one of the tradebot streams give you a floette. It always has AZ trainer ID anyway.
>>59215878Fucking This
>>59215878Nah fuck Gliscor. That nigger should never have gotten Poison Heal.
>>59215886good show from the /vp/ boys
Top cuthttps://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/69c30ae236f5b5c303dbce1c/standings
>>59215991A surprising lack of zardY
>>59215860We have the Teraleak notes showing the different type charts they tested out for Fairy. They considered making it weak to Ice at one point iirc.
>>59215900I think Espeed mega dragon was the move, you can do multiple big matches a night, i think most people were doing like 3 a night
>>59215991Unexpected Typhlosion in 4th, and the severe lack of sinistcha
>>59215991Top 10 H-Zoroark with a Dane. I always knew they were deceitful creatures.
>>59215991Crazy how varied this is compared to the previous one people have been posting around
>>59215991>meganium nowhere to be found>hisuian typhlosion in 4thThis board is going to be infested...
>>59216017LMAO
>Frosslass freezes my charizardKill yourself NOW
>>59216025How did she freeze you when you can't freeze in sun????
>>59216030>How did the snow setter freeze you?I'll let you figure that one out
>>59215991Oh, sorry. Top cut is 20 (????) instead of 16
>>59215991>floette in half the teamsyeah I think p2w
>>59215991It really looks like almost no team is like the other. Also surprising lack of ttar. Not that it feels good to use with sneasler everywhere.
>>59216035Bro.. did you mega before her? Self own...
>>59216017....but.....but....it's a shillmon!
I'm cooking a spread special attacker dual mega delphox/gengar team in a similar vein to delph/floette teamsI was looking at steel type support pokemon so I can spam sludge wave when I saw tinkaton... Has anybody experimented with her? Pickpocket fake out could be really funny
>>59215991I played that MDB team on ladder. I hate it.
>>59216053Gotta be careful with her next to gengar because chomp eq cooks both
>>59216053Pickpocket only works when a mon attacks you. It's kinda shit desu.Tink is ok though.
I'm in love with Dragapult right now. But the Charizard is basically useless and the giraffe is much the same, since I find it easier to just kill the enemy Trick Room user before they get it off. Help me, people who are actually good at the game. Pls giv suggestions. I've found Bridge-based rain teams a generally unfavourable matchup.
>>59215991>can't see the exact EV spreadslamealso is the guy in 7th using a fucking normal floette?
>>59216075MAybe swap the girraffe for a fast taunt pokemon if you never use it. Since its obviously there just to stop trick rooms.I'd personally swap char for t-tar if you want a back pocket guy to ruin enemy weather, maybe as a potential second mega if floett looks bad
>>59215991Tsareena, Typhlosion, and Zoroark seem to be the odd ones out?
>>59216089I was definitely considering TTar for the weather replacement, nice way to deal with sashes too. I'll have to have a look at some of the quicker Taunt pokemon to see what options I've got. As someone who hasn't really played Pokemon in about 20 years, I'm still not used to simply clicking the biggest damage attacks over and over.
>we're ready to fix the meta, boss
Chlorophyll Growth Whimsicott ft Char Y
>>59216118I love this meme. You don't see it enough these days.
>>592159911, 5, and 10 are what we often call alpha males.
>>59216104I cannot wait for my storm drain bros to join my team
Please tell me Heliolisk isn't becoming common. I just put that guy on my team last week for the basc/aero matchup.
>>59215998When you're the king, everyone prepares.To say Zard Y didn't shape the meta around it would be an understatement.
>>59216171Oh wow you saw that video too?
>>59216180No.
>ttar with manual sand
>>59216120That really sounds like a meme amongst memes though, what kills do you even get with that?
>>59215998Everyone is running rock slide now. Zard just drops dead to anything faster than 100 base speed and access to a rock type attack.
how to use mega altaria? it doesnt really seem to do anything
>>59216191>toxic spikes glimmora
>>59215991Kek why the fuck are two teams running non-eternal floette
I just spent some time using gliscor as a utility mon for my team with earthquake breaking swipe tailwind protect/feint/uturn. Sand veil with brightpowder and a t-tar for sand.It's totally useable, especially if your team can take advantage of his immunities with big spread moves. I wasn't brave enough to bring him against rain/snow teams though.
>>59216216Why do retards always ask this question whenever teams get posted? It's just the way they submitted their team sheet. Regular Floette isn't in Champions so there isn't any issues, everyone knows it's Eternal because it literally has to be.
>>59216207It's just a really bad mega. It wastes most it's mega stats into being a mixed attacker.
>>59215991>scovillainDoomposters once again btfo'd
I used to think that if my pokemon used a sash in a fight, I had to buy a new one for the next combat
>>59216240It did before gen IX. Outside of online matches of course.
>poison heal stallfags mad about gliscorThis is why I run hyper offense
>>59216196I was just talking about the image lad.
insane match. die, gengarfags die
What are some good retard proof teams? I’m a moron at the game, but I can’t find teams that are actually good and aren’t “*fill in the blank* is BROKEN” slop
>>59216280Trick room teams are easy to build and execute strategy wise.Just slap a giraffe/sinistcha and your fav fat slow mons on a team and go to town
>>59216273Who are you quoting
>>59216280what makes you think "retard proof" and "slop" aren't the exact same thing anon?
>>59216280I'm not sure what you mean, are you asking for something that is both, strong, easy to use and it must also make you feel super special?
The more I play the more I come to hate Pokemon
>>59216286raghav malviya
>>59216280Weather or trick room
>>59216285>>59216302Thanks guys, I’ll check out those >>59216297I meant something that is strong and can survive a couple of mistakes from me without needing massive prediction to win>>59216289Fair point
top 8STEAL THESE TEAMS
>>59216346More like start building to counter the winner's team.
>>59216346My team already eats these alive. Except the Archaludon. That one gives me trouble. It's that and the off-meta shit that trips me up on ranked.
>>59216346None of these are Wolfey's teams so I will ignore them.
I feel like Kingambit is just dead weight on my team. The few times I bring him in he's a sitting duck or can't do more than score some chip with Sucker Punch. I assume I'm just playing him wrong, but what does he counter exactly?Also fuck Sneasler.
>>59216375incineroar. he's like physical milotic
>>59216378Couldn't Incineroar just Fare Blitz my shit? It's happened once already.
>>59216375Countering intimidate, does good against snow, sand and trick room teams too
>>59216379he shouldn't be able to ohko, right? and you have low kick
>>59216375He scares the cat, he discourages stuff like icy wind, he kills the dainty megas like Floette, Gardy or Froslass, Gengar and Sinistcha fear him and in a pinch you can play mind games to go toe to toe with a Basculegion.
>>59216378>>59216381>>59216383>>59216391Got it. I've been looking at him as a tanky sweeper rather than a punish tool. Thanks for the info.
>>59215991what sets do the dragonites have
>>59216044Floette was the meta call. Pokemon weak to Floette didn't do very well.
>>59216422you can check the moves on the page but it doesnt have spreadshttps://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/69c30ae236f5b5c303dbce1c/standingsmost seem to be espeed and low kick
>>59216346I'm grateful for the Venusaur. I'm grateful for the lacking Incelaroar.I'm very distressed about the P2W Floette from that shit game.
>>59216454>I'm grateful for the lacking Incelaroar.You're welcome.
I did it. I got to masters! I'm very happy
>>59216515Post team
>>59216515Welcome to hell
252+ SpA Wormadam-Sandy Psychic vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Sneasler: 168-200 (107.6 - 128.2%) -- guaranteed OHKOWhen is my girlie gonna come to Champions?
>>59216533how many shitmons did you look through before your found this interaction?
>>59216531Nah, hell is Ultra 1, once you've made it in Master you can kick back and relax, unless you're aiming for Champion in which case it's a hell of your own making.
Would Sneasler still be a meta pick if he didn't have Unburden as an ability? I feel his speed boost out of nowhere is responsible for almost all of my losses to him in Ultra.
>>59216539None. I used to use Wormadam to troll Spore users back in Gen 7 days. It just happens to resist both of Sneasler's STABs which I also find very funny
How many of you spent the $7 starter pack for the 50 extra box spaces? Did you feel it was worth it?
>>59216549I haven't yet but I'm getting close to filling up my first 50 so it's imminent. Considering how long I'll be playing this thing it seems like a no-brainer. 50 bucks renewable for the next upgrade is a steep escalation though, they can miss me with this one.
>>59216549You don't need it if you have home. Conversely, if you like to switch teams a lot and have home, it's a fine value. I don't really feel either way about it. I have a lot of shit in home and it's a free game.
>>59216549Sorry but I'm not a goy.Also I I'll never pay my taxes as long they go to Israel or other countries.
>>59216346All non murican eliminated
>The new and improved Dragapult team is on a 14 win-streakOh baby.
>>59216531Fuck that I'm having fun now. Ultra ball 2 and 1 were awful, some of the most random bullshit I've ever seen especially with Japanese players.>>59216519https://pokepast.es/ec06d83686305d2c
Azazel gotta be one of the funniest autists around
>>59216549I might consider it in a few months if moving mons back and forth gets annoying enough
What pokemon should I trade these for?
>>59216549I bought The premium pass
>>59216700Probably Iron Leaves and Walking Wake, if we’re being honest here. They’re the only time-exclusive things you can trade for and who knows when/if they’ll return
When is the best time to battle to avoid the tryhards? I want to maintain my win streak.
>>592167256pm eastern to 10 or 11pm west coastMaximum normie americans and before most of the tryhard japanese guys get up
>family of three maushold is competitively optimalOh no
>use taunt on the giraffe/gay matcha cupHeh… nothin personel kid
>>59216736>family of three maushold is competitively optimalExplain?
>>59216736Other way around, you want it as heavy as possible for Heat Crash (if it's even in Champions, I don't know) or Heavy Slam. And even for that I doubt there's actually a single pokemon where it allows it to take a 100bp instead of 120.
>>59216744it's lighter so it takes less damage from low kick
>>59216770Low kick is not that granular, it's 20bp on either form.
Zard Y stonks aren't going anywhere except the moon.
>>59216810More like Kingambit stonks. What a shame, I was rooting for the mega Froslass team
>>59216816link?
>>59216819first post ITT
>>59216816Zard Y being on these teams and being chosen over Floette is not an accident. Gambit is good, but that's a byproduct of the mons Zard doesn't like being bad against Gambit.Cope.
>>59216825I mean obviously he'd bring the weather setter to counter another setter. I'm just saying that Kingambit pretty much soloed. And I'm not some Zard hater like you seem to imply I am
>>59216824>char y + floette team>most basic bitch team imaginable >some mouthbreather woncrazy
>>59215991>Typhlosion got 4th>no Meganium, Emboar, or Feraligatr in sightlol
>>59216504Thank you based sneedler
Anyway to get Floette without buying ZA?
>>59216871this guy >>59216700
>>59216871Drop a shiny into Pokemon Home GTS. Remove and readd it if it hasn't been traded after a few hours. Home is on maintenance right now though.
>>59216871trade me shiny thunderstruck incineroar
I played against my first hacker. I hit their Bellibolt with Earthquake and it only did 20% damage to their healthbar. I went to the damage calculator and it should've did 50%-60% damage. (50% if they had all of their bonus stats into HP, defense, and a defense nature). Cheaters are fucking pathetic
>>59216816same, froslass had it rough against gambit char and bascu with that supereffective damage
>>59216938i applaud the autism, but it does look sexy >>59205596
>>59216945Are you sure they just didn't have a berry?
>>59215878>No Poison Heal>"Oh that's okay I can just Roost">It lost Roost tooSomeone hated Gliscor
People are really sleeping on Tinkaton, cucks Farigiraf out of its free Trick Room setup.
>won a battle because of Stealth Rocks>promoted to UltraHow fucked will I be?
after reaching master I kind of lost my sense of purpose with this game, I know I wont make it to champion so theres no motivation
>battle against another trainer>he's down to only a burned Corviknight >I still have a full health Garchomp and Milotic>game is objectively over>he still sits there and clicks Roost 8 times>only forfeits after he's been completely PP stalled
>>59217094They really should’ve just removed recovery moves
>>59216984They've been nerfing stall tactics for years now.
>>59217105same happened to me, at least make them 3 pp max
>>59217094We still have the 20 minutes time out, so some losers still stall to force a draw. It's an absurd behavior until TPCi learn to penalize it
>>59216984>Glailie and Pinsir lost Double-Edge >but Feraligatr keeps itAnd still no one uses the fucking thing.
>>59217169Pinsir has known Double-Edge since Gen 1 too. These devs are out of their fucking minds.
>she uses an all shiny team
I'm stuck in ultra ball hell, give me the most cancer slop team to win my way out /vp/
>>59217202>>59216346
>>59216346Komoo-o being top is wild. What can it even do?
>>59217217Clanging Scales
>>59216035Has a flaming tail
>>59217221How much good is that when there's a lot of steel and fairy in the meta?
wolfey is back at number 1. what team did he cook this time?
>>59217169>they get rid of their double edge>okay I'll just use return>they got rid of return entirely
every single jap I've seen play this game timer stalls at any available opportunity. they let so many games go to time.
>>59217202Sinistcha, corviknight, primarina. Last three of your choice. Those three are an absurd core and cover so much of the metagame
>>59216346Oof this meta is ass
>>59217074I feel the same way, and yet I keep coming back to do the dailies and maybe try to reach top 50k
they really need to rename masterball rank to silver rank, to give people a more accurate description of what their actual skill level is when they finish the pokeball-ultraball climb
why is this shit game so popular
>>59217246can boost with that one move and then aura sphere. just dont bring it against floette
Does technician consider acrobatics w/o an item to be 60 BP? What about assurance after taking damage?
>>59217288All the cool kids like pokeman
>>59217191Someone had all normal team except for a shiny clawitzer and shiny sylveon. The clawitzer was how I knew the sylveon was real. I respected that team.
>>59217217Cannot speak for other people but it’s been a godsend for my Kangaskhan Trick Room team>Clanging Scales with a Dragon Fang consistently hurts resisted Pokemon for 20-ish percent of their health and everything else for 40 to 50 percent>Any Archaludon at 95% health or lower often dies to Aura Sphere>Flamethrower rounds off the movepool for coverage.
>Download game>Find out my nigga Cofagrigus loses knock off and parting shotLiterally why
>>59217405You WILL click trick room and you WILL like it
>>59217265It's so fucking true they get so fucking salty when you see through their stupid ass meme sets. I had some jap faggot the other day give up and just stall the timer out till 1 second then dual protect over and over. Took 5 minutes to finish him off cause he kept getting subsequent protects
>>59217169>Pinsir loses access to a move it’s had since its creation>Megamence will most likely be allowed to keep it.Remind me why ILCA was allowed to make this game again.
>>59217191And I’ll keep doing it, sister
>>59217217I used it with decent success, it's good against a lot of the most popular teams when I was playing (Zard Venusaur) thanks to dragon type and being immune to sleep powder with Overcoat. Clanging Scales is just a solid move to use and you can also aura sphere any steel or dark types you find. I ended up replacing Clangorous Soul with Cum Wave for priority after getting fucked over by a low health Kingambit spamming sucker punch. I guess I'm also just lucky that I didn't run into many fairy types but Sneedler can usually either kill them or scare them off.
>>59217442>haiyoEt tu? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzQya_7b-hs
>use Moushold>Population bomb does sub 4 hits>opponent uses Moushold>8+ hits with PBEverytime.
Poison types cleaning up toxic spikes sucks why is that even a thing let me win
>>59217471What I don't understand is why it doesn't work that way for Stealth Rocks and Rock types. Actually make it so Fighting and Steel types remove them too, but after they do damage.
>>59217448we use super fang here
>>59217448Live by rng, die by rng>hydro miss for 2 timesCould have bagged the game but no, Rotom cannot run Scald
>>59217191I only make the highlight(s) or core of the team shiny. I did it for Reg F, H, and I as well. Feels wrong when they're all shiny.
I'm new to vgc and tried copying good teams and got nowhere, dropped a ton of elo so I decided to make my own team from scratch and after a few failed attempts, decided to build a team built entirely around being an asshole with milotic, rather than milotic being added as a supportive piece like in my other attempts. For the first time I have a team I literally haven't lost a game with yet and every mon has pulled its weight in some matchup. I'm trash so when I play good players they will probably pull my team apart, but for now it feels good and I wonder if I have actually built something good or not.
>Oh, you flinched me? Guess I'll slow play out of spite, bitch. Not mad btw.How did these retards ever make it Master Ball?
>>59217502because a washing machine can't scald you
Maybe Rotom ought to possess modern appliances
>>59217555what? Yes it can, you can set them to higher temperatures
>>59217565>setting rotom to 2 degrees below freezinggiving him chilling water NOW
>>59217169Slash isn’t in the game. I hope thats the only reason Gatr doesn’t have it. I wanted to use dragon cheer + slash for better return. Unfortunately i have to settle either for gravity memes with mega kick or double edge.
>>59216191Rain Dance Politoed was a thing in Gen 5. It let you reset weather without having to switch out and in.
>>59216191Thats not that strange
>Ultra Ball Singles>I lead Excadrill my opponent leads Aggron>They switch into Rotom-Heat thinking levitate will save them>Earthquake OHKOs >They ragequitYou would think players would be smart enough to know what Mold Breaker does
>>59216328The one thing to keep in mind with Trick Room is that at a certain point players know how to counter it and you having a flow chart team with limited options means they'll be able to read you and shut you down. TR is a very good beginner strat for teaching basics, but it's a strat with a skill and results cap. You don't see TR winning tournaments.
>>59217169>Glalie and PinsirAbsolutely retarded. Were they afraid of a Megamence scenario? The 700 BST intimidate + hyper voice machine that only clicked double edge to score specific kills?
>>59217627>how to counter it>doesn’t win tournamentsAlright. So how do you counter it with a tailwind team? Eating hits and spamming protect or are you gonna pull some bullshit out of your ass like saying that you actually use imprison girafarig (you don’t)
>>59217631-ate and -ize users all died for Salamence’s sins.
>>59217632>Taunt>Double into the TR setter>Use spread moves to get around redirection>Setup turn 1, then rotate Protects and redirection to basically trade with them until TR ends and you 2v4 sweep their team>Wall them out with bulky Pokemon
I think Dragon Pulse should have the effect "Deals 10% more damage to Dragon-types"in b4>use Draco MeteorGive that "100% accuracy versus Dragons" and I'll use it.
How do I resist the insatiable urge to plap the ugly chick on the counter after a losing streak?
>>59217708Go to the training menu to see her grandpa and remember she got all his genes
>>59217686>tauntStopped by mental herb>double into the tr setterMany ways to stop this one such as redirection or weakening attacks, the best part about this one is that you’re assuming you’re not throwing any support out.>trade with themAnd what makes you think they can’t do the same shit to you?>wall them with bulky pokemonWhat makes you think they can’t do the same? Especially when bulky pokemon are the TR users.
>>59217690No it shouldn’t. I am thankful you’re not the one that makes decisions like this, a lot of takes in this thread are usually retarded but yours is easily one of the most retarded
>came up with a really dumb combination of mons in my themed team tailwind + sleep powderI guess I can see why char y + venu works so well since it's effectively the same thing but with a surprise factor
>>59217632Try using TR yourself and see how people counter it.In my experience giraffe is pretty easy to kill.Megazard OHKO my max hp giraffe with weatherball and kingambit and scizor can do so as well with max atk investment which most of them do.Not to mention doubling into a giraffe with incineroar.If you're facing a tr team you don't even need to bring your tailwind setter since all of them are slow as balls.
>>59217710Yeah she’s gonna birth little abominations once I’m done with her
>>59217738Gravity Hypnosis? Gravity King’s Rock Population Bomb?
>>59217766NahJust a route 1 bird and a route 1 bug from the same generation
>>59217741>doubling into the TR monThats what you call taking a risk.Scizor and kingambit are both TR mons, you bring tr for them.Lastly hard trick room or hard tailwind are both bad but the latter is hard countered by TR. Your team should be able to make use of both and you setup tailwind at the final turn of TR or pick which you will commit into based in team preview.
>>59217741A lot of people run some spdef investment on farig, I use overheat to ensure all giraffes burn.
>>59217777Yet another giraffe get, how does he do it?
>>59217662Giving it that ability in the first place was a completely retarded decision by GF.
>>59217775Kingambit is used in TR teams, but it is absolutely not a mon that is only used in TR.It is the 4th used mon in the game.
>>59217775>Scizor and kingambit are both TR mons, you bring tr for them.lol no. both have incredible STAB priority moves. you do not need to bring trick room for them.
>>59217136>It's an absurd behaviorIf I don't get to win, neither do you.
>>59217775You definitely don’t need Trick Room for either of those.
You guys entered the code for Kitts costume before it expired today, right?
>>59217921whoah mama
>>59215794He's a funny little gremlin. Should maybe use him but at the same time I already have this pretty optimised trick room team that I want to climb with now
>the cycle repeats of people just parroting Wolfe in saying that perish trap is "the most difficult strategy"doubles hard stalling is right there. you just need to get remotely the correct conditions on perish trap to have a guaranteed 2 mons KO'd, where only 1 turn you are actually vulnerable. hard stall needs EVERY turn to play out exactly the correct way or they just lose immediately.
All these nerds putting sneasler on every team, I'm over here putting sinistcha on all mine. Stupid fucking cup does everything
>>59218034I don't care about ecelebs or their sycophants
>>59218034Had someone try to pull one of these on me the other day, I just ended up winning before the perish song finished. Seems like a strategy too heavily reliant on getting perfect matchups
>>59218034Has that fag even ATTEMPTED using Gengar in Champions yet?
>>59218034Hard stall is not a viable strategy so it’s not part of the discussion
>>59218034How do people even get trough one of his videos? I tried watching him early Sun/Moon when I started taking VGC seriously, and it's the worst thing ever.>Ok ok, so look, ok look, so this Pokemon is very good, wait, hold on, wait, I have the wrong window open, ok good, ok now so this Pokemon is good because, wait....are these the wrong calcs? omg I'm sorry. OK I fixed them. Ok, so now this Pokemon is good because..Fucking hell dude. Write a script, and stop being so fucking scatterbrained. I have ADHD too so I get it, but it's a video and not a livestream. Eadit that shit nigga.
>>59218034He's talking about team archetypes that have actually won tournaments though.It would obviously be way harder to use a team that had 0 attacking moves on it, but nobody has won anything doing that so it isn't really a team archetype.I look forward to you making this post again next thread
>>59218086I only recently saw one of his videos and I can't stand his voice and it's constant upward inflection. I'd try to describe it but it's hard to do with text so you probably know what I'm talking about. It's worse than a valley girl stereotype. Literally every syllable keeps going upwards. Don't know how people that ear grating get an audience.
>>59218086His Champions videos are extremely rushed because he has been putting out a new vid every day since it's release.
>Want to prep some mons for next season>Look into Raichu-X>Physical attacker>Raichu gets fuck all Phys moves.Ok what should I even give this Raichu? Volt Tackle, fake out, and then what? Thunder Punch for a reliable phys electric move? Motherfucking Brick Break?
>>59218034I should've gone straight for the fucking kill the moment I saw Gengar and Incineroar lead.I don't know why getting to Master Ball Rank 4 has me misplaying so much, but I would've killed the fucker right away when I started in low elo.
>>59218141Utility.Fake Out, Knock Off, Protect Volt Tackle. You also have Dragon coverage in Play Rough.If you want to go Special, Nasty Plot is always a viable strat for high power Surfs and Thunderbolts.
>>59218141Honestly, Raichu should've had Dual Typings here. Flying for X, and Water for Y.
>>59218145Yeah the set for Raichu-Y is easier.I also could go for Nuzzle on Raichu-X I guess?Also, I am not seeing Knock Off on his Gen 9 move pool. Actually, Brick Break might not even be too bad with all the fighting weak mons running around and Veil being popular
>sniped Shiny Sneasler and Shiny Kingambit in Luxury Balls from the GTSI want an Alpha Shiny Sneasler, but I guess that can wait for me to play through Arceus for the first time later.
>>59218152Pikachu has access to Knock Off in Champions, so it stands to reason Raichu should as well.>t. former chuchito user
>>59218158Fuck, I keep forgetting Champions has its own move pool. Thanks nigga
>>59218153Now do I have a webpage for you https://rotomlabs.net/legends-arceus/massive-mass-outbreak
Please run less Torkoal and more Tardizard, my trick room team can't deal with its slowass base 20 speed
>>59218161I kinda wish Pikachu/Raichu had access to Extreme Speed as well, since a Gen 5 Event version of it DID, but nah. I guess not.
>>59218165I'll bookmark this.
>>59218142Even in MB2 whatever you think the other person is gonna do they are gonna do lolI have gotten so many peoples Basculegion killed turn 1 because the retards flip turn into Aerodactyl like I’m not aware they’re doing that
>>59218183i thought this too, until i came across the psychopath who ran choice scarf sneasler with rock tomb. like, fucking really? you REALLY need that speed boost on the fucking mon who can effortlessly become the fastest thing in the entire format?
>>59218141That Pikachu mega is so gross
>run into the one retard who has max SpD KingambitFuck my life
>>59218194I mean why would you not run max spdef
How do we convince ILCA not to add Dynamax and Tera?
>>59218217What, you don't want Tera Flying Mega Fug?
>>59218194if he won then the retard might not be him.
Gonna try Scope Lens Mimikyu for the 50% Shadow Claw crit to OHKO Basc and break through Milotic. Time to make my opponents very confused
>both of us opening with Farigiraf>my team is hard Trick Room while his isn't>he tries to counter Trick Room turn 1 when I didn't press it myself>instant forfeitDude, just run Imprison. And also it wasn't relevant this time but don't use a move that can flinch my giraf if you're betting on a reverse Trick room.
>There are ""people"" using PoGo mons in Champions>when mobile Champions releases, lots of PoGo phonefag only players will infest this game with their fake Pokemon and shinies
>>59218271I'm using pogo mons, and there's nothing you can do to tell that they are.
>>59218271people who import mons from go are infinitely more intelligent than retards who "don't have home"
>>59218286>Starters in Great/Ultra BallsThere are always tells..>>59218301>Paypig fucktards are infinitely more intelligent than smart consumersThis is you
>>59217094Recover user complaining about roost user, kek
>>59217555My drum clean mode runs at 70 celcius. That can definitely scald the shit out of any person.
>>59218271>It's a shiny in an ultra ballDisgusting go faggota
>>59218411Even worse: A Great Ball Shiny Starter without a Ribbon or a Title. That is 100% a Go Red Flag
If the main games won't let you change what pokeball a mon is in, they could've at least let you change it in Champions, even if it stays locked to Champions and it reverts back to the original ball when you return it to Home.
>>59218436Nahhh
>Low Kick FarigGet me outta here
>>59218465Forced 50.
Is it better to make plays that raise your floor or raise your ceiling?
Does Wide Guard function like Protect? As in, diminishing succes rate when used in a row? Because I either got massively outplayed just now, or lucked the fuck out.
This may be a dumb question, but when this comes to mobile, will you be able to use the same account as the Switch version?
>>59218477No matter what you decide it’s going to be the wrong choice. Unless it’s not.Welcome to vgc
>>59218481Will probably be synced via your Nintendo Online account yeah
Anyone still playing Sun? Feel like every time I see TTar I lose
>>59218478No, I don't think there is any penalty for using it multiple times in a row.
>>59218478Used to be, isn't anymore.
>>59218488Well, in that case I got outplayed and I am less mad.
>>59218478No, Wide Guard and Quick Guard work everytime
>Opponent's Aero goes down to 1HP thanks to sash, while I'm bringing in an Incineroar>he has a ghost type on his bench that I've already seen in play>Decide it would be a waste of time to Fake Out the Aero because it'll get switched to the ghost type obviously>the guy keeps Aero in>attacks>with a move that is resisted by both of my PokemonWhat's the fucking point? There's nothing to learn here. The people who played Pokemon are legitimately all too retarded to actually "outwit".
>>59218487have you considered adding sneedler
Armour Tail should be symmetrical
I think Sneasler is a really funny pokemon, I feel like he's a nod to boomers like me. When I discovered Dark-type pokemon way back in Gen2 and had a rude awakening with Sneasel that Psychic-type moves don't work on him, I was rocked to my very core. Dark-types like Sneasel are a hard counter to Psychic. Had they released Sneasler back then, with his 4x weakness to Psychic, we would've all LAUGHED hard at him. Sneasler is like if they revised history to keep Psychics dominant in gen2. Yeah, he works incredibly well today since Psychics aren't so common. Which, in turn, allow people to play pokemon like Venusaur as well without simply being punished for it.
>>59218496Haha I'm sure they won't see that coming
>>59218475grow up
>want to try something different>roll a number for a random mega to build around>mega medicham>get absolutely btfo'd with it because everyone is prepping for sneaslerWhat can I do to make it usable?
>healer is now a 50% chance to activate each turnHuh since when? I know it's still not a good ability and does absolutely nothing for Mega Audino but it's something.
>Try a new team>Run into teams that hard counter it>Fuck it, back to my old team>Run into teams that my new team would work well against, but my old one does notWHY!? FUCK OFF ALREADY. HOLY SHIT.
>>59218500>Psychics aren't so commonbecause they all suck. once good ones or the string cheese get added sneasler will start to see less play
>>59218478They work every time but apparently using actual protect after counts as if you already used protect before
>>59218487I never was a fan of Venu, so it was first on the chopping block. My team is basically the big 4, Sneasler, Basc, Gambit, and Chomp. Zard + Heliolisk round out the team because you have to run some kind of aero counter.
>>59218145>using non bulky mega slot for utility
>>59218420Great ball blegh
>>59218521You gotta be like Ash Ketchum. Adapt on the fly. Counter your counters!
>>59218271I'm 28 days into Go and I'm 828 mons deep into my living form dex. You'll never stop me from shitting up yourcomp ladder without ever once engaging in gacha faggotry or buying a mainline title, get fucked shinenigger.
>>59218573Ewwwwwwwww poorfag
>only had 3 seconds to pick my actions during one of my turns>don't have enough time and the game autopicks so I loseWhy the FUCK did this happen?
An encore whimsicott ended my 15 win streak. I'm going to make a turn 1 counter so complete and so foolproof that whimsicotts will stop appearing on teams until EOS
>>59218577You have two turn timers. There's the per-turn timer, and there's the total turn timer. In addition to a time limit on each turn, you have a total time limit on your side for all your turns combined. Sort of like speed chess, except I don't think you get a small amount of time added to the total each turn.
>>59218588I don't understand, I made my turn prior extremely fast, but the following turn I only had 3 seconds, then the turn after that it was back to the normal amount of time to pick and was like that for the rest of the battle.
>>59218577That's why you should put Protect in the first move slot, or which ever spread attack you prefer. Just to be safe.
>>59218582I just added a sableye with fake out and encore to my team.Turn 1 somebody always protects to prevent the fakeout, and turn 2 they just get locked into protect by encore. It feels unfair, and I don't care at all
Have you taken the snow pill yet?
>>59218582Talonflame with dual wingbeat? Its about the only thing. Prankster will outspeed aero.Aero is much better for dealing with both whimsicott and venusaur tho
>>59218582That's funny, a whimsicott also ended my 11 win streak. The only dark types that learns trick room in the game are spiritomb and meowscarada. I guess bulky support tomb is an ok if extremely niche answer. Meow can triple axel kill through sash and put up trick room next turn.
>>59218607No. Water types are my favourite pokemon. It's a shame all the ones in the game right now are so fucking BORING
>>59218607Mega Froslass feels like a boss from a Shin Megami Tensei game.
What team should I use for the current competition? Can I just make the most shamelessly meta team of M-Floette, Sneedler, Incin, Bascu, Kinggambit, and Aero/Corvi and do well?
>got ghost badge before my ice badgeLiterally how? The only ghost type I'm using is Froslass. I should have the ice badge too.
>>59218582>>59218623Bros, your mental herb?>The only dark types that learns trick room in the game are spiritomb and meowscaradaHatterene gets magic bounce
>>59218649I feel like if you have to ask that question at all you wont do well regardless of your team
>>59218649Unless you're actually good at the game you definitely shouldn't run zardY of Floette. Everyone is going to be brinings counters to those pokemon so you won't be able to use them as a crutch. Build the second best team instead.
https://rentry.org/pcg-guideNew section added in Priority.Requesting anons to go through to make sure all the information is correct.I understand team building section is still highly requested, and I think I have narrowed it down to just 'Making a core'. The smallest unit of a team, i think that is easier to understand, fits any timeframe, and can help newbies understand on how to make their mega Altaria team or whatever.>>59218649seconding that anon's comment. Its best to just pick a team you understand at least on a basic level on how it is played rather than picking the best and not understanding what any of them does.I mean like you could probably claw your way up, but as ive seen multiple anons do before you, its frustrating, confusing, and you wont ever understand why you lost or won
>>59217921this but with a QoS tattoo
>>59218720> It’s best to just pick a team you understand at least on a basic level on how it is played rather than picking the best and not understanding what any of them does.I mean I’ve been playing since launch and used all those mons aside from Mega Floette which I need to transfer from ZA. I was just busy this weekend and didn’t enter the competition yet. I’m worried that a team like that is too offense-oriented for the current meta since Aero and Incin are the only support mons, and I typically use Fake Out, Flare Blitz, Parting Shot, and Helping Hand on my Incin (so no Taunt or Dark attacking moves).
>>59218712My other top choice for my Mega slot would be Ttar to disrupt enemy weather from Zard Y teams. I guess it would pair well with Aerodactyl anyway.
>>59218753>>59218778Okay from these two posts i basically got you pat down.You are very worried about Charizard Y teams, and you dont particularly understand how team building is done.No shame in it, i am serious. A ton of anons here dont know how to either, since that isnt required of you. I think tailored for your end, you really should go for that mega tyranitar team, with incineroar. You can drop aerodactyl though, he is good, dont get me wrong, but between the usual core of excadrill and tyranitar, they handle everything aerodactyl was doing anyways (killing Sneasler, moving fast). Also just for the record>I guess it would pair well with Aerodactyl anyway.Aerodactyl (counterintuitively) does not fit into a tyranitar team. You will never use that Special bulk you get from sand, and because of that you always run them as fragile as possible.
>>59218806So you think I should go with Excadrill over Corviknight or Aerodactyl? The main thing I like about Aero aside from STAB Rock Slide is the fact that it gets Wide Guard.
>>59218841it all boils down to what you want to do exactly. If the only two things you wanna do is fuck over CharY sun teams and use aerodactyl, you could just outright play a rain team.heck i wrote a short breakdown of how a rain team with aerodactyl functions in the new player guide here>https://rentry.org/pcg-guide#team-previewYou can still use rock slide plus wide guard if you want with the rain team
>>59218841I think you should have both Corviknight and Excadrill.Look at Joseph Ugarte's team.
>>59218582For me it's the opposite >opponent's Sableye encore my Melotic's coil >I refuse to switch out predicting He most likely will ignore my Milotic while She coiling every turn because no one can resist the temptations of free 2v1, right>kill His Sableye couple of turns later, and during that process I maxed out the coiling stack>He realized His fucking mistake of ignoring my Milotic when He see Her ate my Garchomp's earthquake as if it's just a chip damage from sandstorms>He forfeit afterward
>>59218841What about… armarouge with flash fire and wide guard
>>59218478Wide Guard and Quick Guard affect Protect's chance to fail afterward, but don't use that chance themselves.
>>59218856>>59218865I don’t particularly care about Aero that much aside from it getting WG and how it has more offensive presence than Corviknight. I usually run Corviknight with Tailwind, Mating Press, Dual Wingbeat, and Light Screen. I also run a weird Sneasler with Gunk Shot over Dire Claw (more damage and non-contact), and Rock Slide over Fake Out.
>>59218927Nta but wtf really? Does it affect it for both mons or just the one using the move?
>>59218627It's literally just this thing, but a Pokemon
>>59218933Just the one using the movehttps://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Protection#Failure_chances
>>59218945Hell it's name is basically an indirect translation of "yukiona" as it is
>>59218932Okay, unorthodox set, but to each their own.What even are you looking for then? From your previous posts it all seems like>it must have a wide guard user>it must disrupt enemy weather (or at least just charizard)>it must do wellthen play rain, since Pelipper also gets it if you wanna double up on wide guard for some reason.May I ask for the reasoning of your unorthodox move selections?
>>59218872why is every pronoun capitalized
>>59218954his opponent is God (the Pokemon too)
>>59218271Go is an awful game but I like the idea of using mons caught in the "real world"
Can I make the Psychic ostrich work in doubles or is it not worth it?
>>59219086you don't, really
>>59219086I lost to one that Baton Passed CM/speed to Mega Floette
hit Ultra Ball in singles
>>59219156Great job pin dick
Using Rotom-W in this format is a good way to grow grey hairs>good matchup against Sneasler, Aero, Garchomp, Ttar, Excadrill with wisp and hydro>flinch>miss>miss>flinch
>>59219168sankyu
>>59218951Light Screen on Corviknight is just nice for team support and keeping Mega Ttar alive. I don’t like Iron Defense+Body Press in doubles since it just leaves Corvi open to eating Tbolt or Fire Blast. Like I said, Gunk Shot on Sneedler is good for big damage and not proccing things like Rough Skin or Flame Body. It also allows me to run it on a TR team as a counter-pick to other TR teams without having to worry about the paralysis chance from Dire Claw. Rock Slide over Fake Out is for a surprise super effective hit on Zard Y, Aerodactyl, and all the other Flying types. It’s just a good coverage move in general since everyone expects Fake Out and uses Protect on the first turn anyway. It takes the guesswork out of which mon is going to Protect and still gives me the flinch chance on the one that doesn’t.Also the last rain team I threw together consisted of Pelliper, Mega Blastoise, Rotom-W, Archie, Azumarill, and Scizor. I haven’t playtested it that much and considered swapping Azu for Clefable and Scizor for Beartic.
>>59219192No one's running fire blast.The reason to use Corvikinght is that your win condition against many teams hinges on just 1 mon that can actually hurt the bird.On Zard teams, you get rid of zard. If you see rotom, you get rid of that. So many physical mons straight up cannot deal with Corvi. Ttars biggest threats are physical and numerous. The sand already does wonders for its special bulk. I think sometimes we get an idea that sounds good in our head, but doesn't do what it's supposed to in practice.
>>59219205So I guess Iron Defense is just more useful on Corviknight in most situations. I do like Light Screen because things like Heat Wave, Blizzard, and Muddy Water seem prominent. On Mega Ttar I’m using Rock Slide, Knock Off, Dragon Dance, and Protect.
Reached Ultra and I don't feel like playing anymore
>>59219437Ultra is a bitch because it's full of tryhards chasing every trend they believe is meta or they saw in a yt vid.
>>59219173Take the reflect pill. Missing wisp is absolutely back breaking
>>59218271Oh my fucking god, who cares? Go be autistic somewhere else
>>59219512Half of all ultra teams are Charizard/Venusaur rn, if your team counter that it's free wins
nerfed protean feels like ass
>>59219593What's amazing is how few of them ever just protect T1. Fake out Venu, ko it. Why aren't they doing the obvious play?
>>59219613They usually just sleep powder my magic bounce Hatterene
>>59219613Who is leading Charizard? Everyone I play against keeps it in the back
>>59219602What was nerfed about it
>>59219621I lead zard a lot except into sand matchups where I am liable to not bring it.I also don't play the Venusaur sleep lottery because that's gay as aids.
>>59219661Activates only the first time and sticks with that type until switched out
>>59219602Why did they even nerf it? Was Greninja secretly broken on BSS/VGC?
>tfw reached ultra with 8 wins in a rowIt's kinda easy when you're countering metafags
>>59219711the bunny's fault
>>59219736Fuck, I mean master.
>>59219736>>59219743You're in great league struggling with a homosexual bug theme team.
>>59219740I hate that fucking rabbit
>>59218086His videos have been extremely overproduced and professional for some time now, they are nothing like what they used to be during SM
Is there any recourse for beating Rotom-Wash with a Whimsicott already on my team without doubling up on Grass types?
>>59219792double into it
>clefable is allowed in this format>no one is using itWhy is this the case? I thought Clefable was considered a good mon all things considered. Is it just because Sneasler is everywhere or do other pokemon do what it does better?
>>59219813Clefable's always been ass in Doubles. It was it's prevo, Clefairy, who shined more due to it's access to Friend Guard and Eviolite.
>>59219813Sneasler and Kingambit, yes
>>59219813I've been using one because my team already had enough dark type weaknesses to put sinistcha on the team and a fairy weakness was useful for me. It gets the job done but man hospitality is so fucking busted and you really miss it. Oblivious is nice against setup mons but 25% on switch in with your redirector is just so nuts to give up.
>>59219813not good enough in doubles, doesn't have enough of a team to support to make worth on a singles team
Hey, can anyone give me some constructive criticism on this team? I basically use trick room, tailwind, or sableye or both trick room and tailwind depending on team preview but my winning is inconsistent snd 90% of my matches I lose at team preview basically.Sometimes I think they will bring charizard but suddenly they lead with whimsicott and I didn’t bring talonflame, othertimes is reversed. Is my team just too difficult to read at team preview resulting in random decisions like that?
imagine Hydreigon using the bathroom and needing to use one of the side heads with toilet paper in its mouth
>>592198821- You need a better mega than toiletgator2- You have too many support mons and not enough damage dealersAny mon that resists cringegambit and gatorade will just outcarry your team. Ditch 1 of the ghosts or talonflame and put in a big dick mon that is worth supporting.
>>59219882Nice Special Attack Sneasler.
>>59218487I played it for one day and switched back to Sand because it felt like everybody I fought already had a plan for it.
>>59219951Getting rid of sableye will hurt but I can’t afford to lose sinischta, i’ll consider what you said thanks.As for different mega, id rather not since im trying to build the team around it, i figured someone would say that but thanks anywayI’m guessing movesets and EV spreads are fine?
>>59219975You should consider having a second mega to bring that works with your setup for when the gaytor has terrible matchups. Perhaps ditch sableye for a complimentary mega, swap talonflame for pelli so you have weather control and tailwind and maybe wide guard that the dumb croc can use.I'm not putting a super large amount of thought into this though, your team.
>dont target the kingambit>still get hit by sucker punch ?????????????
>>59219990How does that not make sense?If you sucker punch somebody you are punching somebody who isn't looking or isn't expecting to be punched.
>>59219986Does gator have terrible matchups? Outside of when I misplay or open with the wrong lead, the only issues I’ve encountered are sylveon (who doesn’t get one shot by liquidation) and corviknight, who walls my entire team except talonflame and gator is like a 3hko on it if not messed up by intimidates or burns or iron defense.
>>59219998Yeah he can get debuffed to shit with willowisps or intimidate cycles and become a wet blanket.You are also always risking an opposing fairy mon just switching in and fucking up your dragon attacks. Also he is a hard pokemon to speed control for and he's not super tanky, so aggressive fast mons and trick room heroes will fuck his life up too
>>59219990Nowhere in the move description does it say they have to be attacking the kingambit, just attacking in general.
>>59220017thats fucking stupid
Sneasler... easy on the Floettes...
