>Played Legends ZA>Amazing game>Played Champions and got to Master Ball>It's absolute dog shitWhich Nintendo Switch game should I get next that will be enjoyable? Considering Scarlet/Violet since it got good reviews after it's final patch and it looks like it got a free DLC in the final patch as well.Would you suggest it over Pokemon Go? Already have everything on DS/3DS
>>59215944>Considering Scarlet/Violet since it got good reviews after it's final patchIt is and will always be dog shit anon. It runs fine on a switch 2, and it's bugs are mitigated at this point. But it just feels so lazy in its execution.
>>59215944Z-A is HARD carried by its amazing cast of characters. That game has catastrophic flaws in just about every other aspect lol
>>59215979>it just feels so lazy in its execution.This comes up a lot in the reviews and it's mainly why I asked. It looks great game and there's a decent amount of praise post patch. Is therea better suggestion to go with regarding a choice on Nintendo Switch?
>>59215944>>Played Legends ZA>>Amazing game>>Played Champions and got to Master Ball>>It's absolute dog shitBased on your OP, SV wouldn't be the thing that scratches your itch for more PLA-styled catching simulators. ZA wouldn't be either since it's dogshit in that department and they ignored everything that made PLA work. PLA was a one time unique thing.
>>59215944SwSh is far better than SV. Don't let the "cool open world" fool you, SV is MISERABLE. It looks like ass, towns are basically nonexistent, and you constantly keep banging your knees on microscopic pokemon that forces you into battle
>>59216073lmao not like swoosh is any better
>>59216055I purchased ZA. It a great game personally, a nice change from the traditional style. Though now I miss the traditional style after so much ZA recently. I wouldn't mind Arceus if it happened to be a good iteration of Pokemon on Switch.
>>59215944go scarlet and violet and bring some friends to play co-op multiplayer if you can.
>>59216073Why does everyone here dislike SW Sh? Never read a good thing about it here but no one ever gives a reason. You're the first person I see recommending it.
>>59216167I think it's because of the Dexit thing that happened at the same time, people just associated SwSh with being the downfall of pokemon. I myself didn't touch it for years because of that.To be fair it is a little bland, but I definitely enjoyed myself, which is much more than I can say for SV
>>59216004Pic unrelated?
>>59215944I have a similar situation with you (more indifferent on Champions though). I “tested out” SV by borrowing a copy for a week and I just can’t get into it. I know it has its fans but the open world is not interesting. Definitely miles better than Go especially in its current state.
>>59216203I missed that. Maybe I'll give it a try since I'd be indifferent with no history of the game.>>59216261Open world? I was hoping for an 8 gyms and some elite 4 type of game flow. I don't mind if it's a little different but the ZA grind of just going between random trainers and fighting a bunch of super Pokemon felt like a1 time type of experience i couldn't do again. Great for a one time playthrough though.
>>59216304The game has the usual Pokemon structure but it also has 2 other story lines with 10 bosses combined for a combined total of 18 bosses (pre E4) that you can do in any order.
>>59216319That sounds pretty fun. Is the base game enjoyable without the DLC? I skip pretty much all DLC since I can get that for free on a cracked Switch I plan on buying from a friend in November. For now I'm buying games for the legit Switch. I would also buy if there is an option to get the DLC in the cart (if they still do that).
>>59215944>Already have everything on DS/3DSBut have you played everything on DS/3DS?What about Legends Arceus?Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is on the Switch as well. Pretty strong spinoff title Id say.
>>59216388I’m >>59216261 so I can’t speak on DLC since I didn’t even finish the base game. People here seem to like it
>>>>>>59216392Actually no, I collected them a while ago (since people locally sell them really cheap open vs still sealed) and I have yet to play Black 2/White 2 and Sun/Moon. I recently picked up a cheap original 3DS in mint condition for $90 that some guy said he used for visits on Animal Crossing New Leaf to boost his main 3DS and it's on 7.x patch. Are they worth getting in to? I mainly don't consider Arceus since most people say it's a less polished ZA. Also I completely forgot Pokemon Dungeons exists but I do enjoy the spinoffs for the change of pace.>>59216407I would definitely give it a try. I was considering Scarlet since it's on sale this week but I'd put a little more in for SW Sh if it's the more fun of the bunch.
>>59216477B2W2 and SM are more enjoyable experiences imo. Would play the former first
>>59216477>mainly don't consider Arceus since most people say it's a less polished ZANot true in the least bit. They have two completely different focuses. Arceus has the best approach to a pokedex and studying pokemon, while ZA is battle-focused.Don't play Sun & Moon, but if you've played B&W, definitely play B2W2
>>59216477>mainly don't consider Arceus since most people say it's a less polished ZANot true in the least bit. They have two completely different focuses. Arceus has the best approach to a pokedex and studying pokemon, while ZA is battle-focused.Don't play Sun & Moon, they are markedly worse than SwSh & SV, but if you've played B1W1, definitely play B2W2.
>>59215944>>59215979SV is a great game on Switch 2. It's not perfect by all means, the open world is still pretty barebones for once. But it still works very well gameplay wise and the story is actually pretty cool thanks to a good finale. If you aren't bothered by the shit graphics, go for it.>>59216073Fuck no. Honestly, kill yourself for posting this.
>>59215944>Considering Scarlet/Violet since it got good reviews after it's final patchIt did?
SV is fucking garbage even with the Switch 2 upgrade
>>59216635nah you just hating
>>59216635Because...?
>>59216635TRUVKE
>>59215944I personally enjoyed S/V but if you liked ZA then I'd probably recommend checking out Legends Arceus first. Also the dlc for S/V is paid unless you can find one of the copies that includes it on-cart, PLA was the one that got a small free dlcThat said, I guess it depends on what you liked about ZA. S/V placed a lot of emphasis on the supporting characters the same way ZA did, so if thats something you liked about it you'd probably like that aspect of S/V too.>>59216477>I mainly don't consider Arceus since most people say it's a less polished ZA.Not really, they share a few gameplay elements that aren't in the main series like catching pokemon outside of battle and lots of small sidequests, but they both kind of do their own thing rather than following the formula of the main games. PLA has relatively few trainer battles and mostly focuses on running around the wilderness and catching pokemon, it also has turn-based battles similar to the main games rather than the real-time ones in ZA.
>>59216004Pic very related
>>59216506>>59216585I didn't know I was missing out this much by skipping B2/W2. I'll be giving them a go this week for sure now. B/W were my favorites from the DS until now I was mostly just busy when they released and forgot about them after getting them on sale.>>59216582The battle concept for ZA was great. They put a lot of effort into giving the players what they asked to try for years. I know it's not for everyone but I was glad to see what they came up with and had an absolute blast. If Arceus is similar with a bit of a different focus, I could see myself giving it a try. I will definitely be giving B2/W2 a go this week. I'm really surprised to see how well received it is on here, that's a great sign.>>59216611The gameplay and the story are my main considerations. I'm not really bothered by graphics but I constantly read that S/V lacked effort by the development team outside of the mechanics. It is on sale though so I'd consider it if the Sw-Sh guy was just hating on S/V. I mean anyone can like/dislike as they please, but I always consider the reasons for the hate.
>>>>59216631Not necessarily "good" but many reviews adjusted accordingly to acknowledge the effort made to fix the game. I never played S/V so I can't really say from my experience, just what I read in updated reviews.>>59216757Supporting character development was pretty strong in ZA. It was enjoyable in the anime-sense since it felt like you really got to know everyone and they tied everything together well. If S/V had good gameplay and a story that compliments it, I'd give that and Arceus a try, especially since you said it does it's own thing plus it has turn based battles. The real time battles were great, but I felt like they could stay in ZA as the game itself was made for that and they really nailed the concept. Arceus also sounds comfy in the sense that it's more focused on catching Pokemon. Something to relax with when you're not going for an intense series of matches. The rogue Pokemon and infinity battles are great on the days you're looking for the style, though a game like Arceus sounds fun for the Pokedex completion aspect it puts emphasis on. Also as someone who has never owned a switch until recently, has a Pokemon DLC ever gone on sale for 50% off or anything? I'm looking and it seems they have never discounted a single DLC in the history of the franchise. I own other consoles and always wait for DLC bundles and discounts, but Pokemon just never seems to do this unless I am researching incorrectly.
>>59216635Bullshit, you're just retarded.
>>59216093Is there anything exclusive to co-op that you miss if you play solo?
>>59217155Not that anon but S/V has multiplayer battles with 4 players against a boss pokemon, if you try to do them solo you get grouped with a few random npcs and you can do pretty much all of them that way with a bit of strategy, but its much easier to just do them with other people (including just finding randos online). The second dlc area also gives you random little tasks to do like catching certain types or taking pictures of certain pokemon, completing them gives points to spend on various things and makes certain legendaries appear in the wild. Doing them together with other players lets you get points much faster and also unlocks legendaries that would otherwise only appear in the other version.
>>59217155There was a minigame in the first DLC that was pretty much impossible to complete solo, but I believe they patched it to make it easier. The reward for the highest difficulty was a shiny Munchlax.You also miss out on evolving Finizen.>>59217225Raids are pretty easy to solo, even the 6-star ones.
>>59217225>its much easier to just do them with other people (including just finding randos online).Is there "online matchmaking" for the 4 player with randos? Most of my friends are not into Pokemon unfortunately.>also unlocks legendaries that would otherwise only appear in the other version.Can you get all legendaries between both S/V this way only purchasing one game, and then trading for the rest to fill the Pokedex? This sounds pretty cool, never knew about the multiplayer aspect.>>59217236I'll have to look into the patch. I don't mind if it's difficult, but if it's one of those "near impossible 1 in a million" type scenarios I'll probably pass. Is the Finizen evolution locked to some reward or multiplayer checkpoint? I've never heard of something like that in Pokemon. I'm mostly a solo player but if there's matchmaking I'd look forward to giving it a try.
>>59217301>I don't mind if it's difficult, but if it's one of those "near impossible 1 in a million" type scenarios I'll probably pass.That's pretty much exactly what it is/was. You weren't given enough time to complete the objective solo.>Can you get all legendaries between both S/V this way only purchasing one game, and then trading for the rest to fill the Pokedex? The only legendaries you have to actually trade for are Koraidon/Miraidon, Raging Bolt+Gouging/Iron Crown+Boulder. Everything else can be captured with your OT. Doing enough of the DLC2 missions in co-op will unlock the opposite version exclusive legendaries. The tradeoff to this is that SV is missing a ton of legendaries.
>>59217301And if you're playing regular co-op with the opposite version, you will each influence spawns so you can see the other's version exclusives.
>>59217351>That's pretty much exactly what it is/was. You weren't given enough time to complete the objective solo.I thought it might be that concept. I never liked that in games. I understand it's to encourage people to try the multiplayer aspect and get others to play, but I don't know anyone who does. For those of us solo it just locks us out of an otherwise enjoyable experience. At least most legendaries are covered. I'm sure I can find someone for a quick trade and send it back for the Pokedex. >>59217351That's a nice mechanic they added. I really would enjoy it if a friend could get into it, but I've tried with a few previous games and they just won't give them a try.
>>59217301>Is there "online matchmaking" for the 4 player with randos?There's matchmaking for the boss battles and you can see some of the ones other people have listed, so you can often get stuff thats normally exclusive to the other version that way. There isn't matchmaking for open-world multiplayer though, so you'd have to actually find people online or irl to do the stuff I mentioned for some of the legendaries>Can you get all legendaries between both S/V this way only purchasing one game, and then trading for the rest to fill the Pokedex?You can get all the ones that appear by doing the little dlc tasks in the other version by playing multiplayer. For example, if you're playing scarlet solo you can get Ho-oh and you can get Lugia in violet, but if you do them in multiplayer you can get both. There's still a fair number of legendaries that aren't available that way and have to be transferred from an older game (or aren't in S/V at all), its more of a little bonus for doing multiplayer.>Is the Finizen evolution locked to some reward or multiplayer checkpoint?IIRC you just have to be playing in the multiplayer mode where other people are visiting your game's open-world or vice versa and then level it to 38+. Its evolved form can also appear in boss battles so you can just get it that way if you don't want to deal with the multiplayer stuff.
>>59215944>Hello, people from the website notorious for calling everything shit. Is this shit?What answer were you expecting?
>>59217495>Is this shit?He said>Which Nintendo Switch game should I get next that will be enjoyable?He's not asking what's shit. He's asking what's good.
>>59215944SV are the best Switch Pokemon game by a mile.
>>59215944Champions is much better than Scarlet and Violet. The games are so unplayable. I loaded it to try to get a Rotom and just attempted to brute force to the water gym, fell down a cliff (there were signs saying it's a dead end retrace your steps rofl, what stupid shit), and I could have eventually found my way out but it was so laggy and gay I had to just close the shit.Absolutely terrible games. Honestly disgusting quality of product for a AAA studio. How much is due to it being a Switch 1, I'm not sure...
>>59217083He's right the games are exceptionally poor quality. I bought a Switch 2 because I thought the game might be decent on that, but I still didn't enjoy the gameplay. It's just not a good game. It's like Z-A. I know a low quality game when I play one and SV is that.
>>59217905OP literally said he hated Champions, why the fuck are you recommending it to him you fucking idiot
>>59217043B2W2 mog most games in the series
>>59218380Why were Pearl/Diamond remade before the B/W series? Do they actually have a timeline for remakes? I was reading about the generation 10 release and how they want to go about more remakes. I haven't seen any timeline. Emerald would be so fun with ZA graphics.
>>59217910>I bought a Switch 2 because I thought the game might be decent on thatYou paid 400 bucks to try and make one Pokemon game experience better?
>>59218754>Why were Pearl/Diamond remade before the B/W seriesBecause 4 comes before 5
>>59219422I meant in the sense they did Red/Green recently which was out of order in gens. Was wondering if there was a road map to the current remake schedule.
>>59216073This
>>59219449It was Yellow and it was meant to get casuals into the main series. Let’s Go was (thankfully) a one time thing.
>>59219568Is Go! Eevee and Pikachu really that bad? I skipped it because I missed all the events and giveaways for the rare Pokemon. I think they just gave away a shiny Diancie too so I'll probably never get it after missing that.
>>59219847NTA but it's literally a game for toddlers and ultra casuals. It's dumbed down kiddie slop.
>>59220305Yeah that's exactly what I was trying to avoid. I get the Z-A hype but other than that which is the best game on Nintendo Switch? I feel like I haven't ever heard a good thing about the Switch generation Pokemon games and have no idea what to get into coming from 3DS and traditional gym leader style turn based play. Arceus looked cool but is it actually fun?
>>59215944Yeah go for it
>>59216635Still better than. SWSH
>>59220431Everyone says SWSH is bad by never says why. What made the game bad? Graphics? Gameplay? Mechanics not good? I've never had a bad Pokemon experience so I don't know what I'm missing.
>>59216167I'm still doing Max Adventures to get all the shiny legendaries
>>59220504Extremely linear, the regional gimmicks suck, difficulty is nonexistent, writing is bad even by Pokemon standards, they expect you to buy a $30 DLC to "fix" it.It's just not a good game.
>>59216388Base SV is pretty enjoyable IMO. The DLC adds two new, somewhat smaller open world areas for you to explore, with their own self-contained storylines and a few hundred more Pokémon each to collect. You can actually access both DLC areas pretty early, after the first couple hours of the base game (once you're let off the rails to go explore and do whatever you want in any order), though the second part of the DLC is basically level-gated by a battle against level 70 opponents. There's some extra QOL stuff that you only get with the DLC (for example, beating the second DLC storyline unlocks free flight with your box legendary) but the base game is still plenty fun on its own.
