Pokémon is the largest multimedia franchise in the world. Fans often intersect, but some focus more on one medium than others. For example, I've always played the games but have never been interested in the show or movies. I own a Bidoof plush, so I do buy merchandise. Merchandise sales are the top revenue source for Pokémon. Some people love the show and movies but don't care about the games. The Trading Card Game is also massive in its own right. Scalpers have made the TCG community the most toxic part of the fandom. Yes, even more than the gross furries, as scalpers will fight in public like actual animals. Pokétubers primarily focus on the games and are a significant part of the community, providing free advertising for Pokémon. Pokémon GO, a mobile spin-off with mainline compatibility is also very popular and has its own Pokétubers and dedicated fan base. I believe Pokémon GO generates a substantial amount of revenue each year. VGC players are wolves in sheep's clothing. They participate in the official format but use injected or hacked mon. The Pokémon Company tends to overlook this, making them the golden boys. On the other hand, Smogon fans clearly represent the true turbo nerd side of the fandom. I believe casual players make up the majority. They enjoy collecting cards and merchandise of their favorites, casually watch the show, and play the games without becoming deeply invested. Pokémon is accessible and easy for them to engage with. The TCG has its own dynamics as well. It's hard to gauge whether Pokémon Masters EX is popular enough to stand on its own. Is there anything else about the fandom that I might be overlooking? I know shiny hunters are a subculture within the pokemon game community. They're a different level of gay I can't really comprehend.
didn't read but you made some good points
>>59218085I also hate how mainline players undermine GO. GO is still a titan in the mobile game industry and will likley continue having mainline compatibility and gimmicks. Meltan was first introduced in GO. Let's GO Pikachu & Eevee we're directly GO inspired. Gen 8 had the weird postcard thing and gen 9 had the gimmighoul roaming form.
>>59218164>GO is still a titan in the mobile game industryAnd winning a gold medal at the special olympics still means you're special needs despite being the best in your field.
>>59218080Honestly I never understood why Pokémon (and Sanrio) are so high on that list until I went to Japan.There's SO much fucking Pokémon merchandise available in Japan that we never even get to fucking see. Just ungodly amounts of it. Stationary, cooking supplies, umbrellas, food, baby toys, clothes, pretty much everything you could imagine. And of course literal mountains of plushies, every Pokémon Center has literally walls lined up with plushies from top to bottom. It's fucking insane. I think this is a very important factor in understanding why Pokémon merch is so profitable: Japs love buying this shit and there's an absolutely stupid amount of it. I honestly think that almost 50% of their profit comes from merch sold in Japan alone.Another factor is that Japs are less critical about the games than the West. SV outsold Gen 1 in Japan and has generally pretty favourable ratings.
>>59218279hater
>>59218279Winning the special olympics (mobile market) is more prestigeous and profitable than winning the regular olympics (video game market) in this analogy.
>>59218164Go flopped years ago
>>59218303>Japs are less critical about the games than the WestThe western internet being full of vocal minority manchildren does not mean the west hates the games (or else SV wouldn't have hit 28m sales in total, as 20m of that was outside Japan). It just means a LOT of western manchildren cry they grew up and the games don't care online. There's Japanese spastics whingeing over them on 2ch and the like too, but unlike in the west, Japan treats THOSE kinds of people as the losers and spergs they are, so don't validate them the way the west champions being a sperg spastic manchild as being a legitimate personality goal.
>>59218310I'm sure it's perfect for you and your budget. But I never found the skinnerbox non-gameplay gameplay of free-to-play games any cop. I'd rather pay a pleb filter and get an actual video game in return.>>59218314Not really. GO's success comes from Game Freak's games (it's literally JUST the catching mechanics of the core games. Gotta Catch 'Em all! Remember bitch?). And not requiring buying a Nintendo system or the cost of a game means a LOT of fucking casuals who grew up with it but didn't continue playing it (because peer bullying or legitimately growing out of the era) and wouldn't buy back in will play it because "it's free*". Selling numbers akin to Pokémania-backed historical sales in the 2020's is a LOT more fucking noteworthy. Especially factoring in the cost of console and games compared to GB days.
>>59218348Mobile games are supposed to cater to casuals. Since it has mainline compatibility, it makes a great companion piece for mainline players as well. You come off as spiteful as fuck for no reason. GO has its flaws sure but it works for what it is and implements new things. It had raid battles before the mainline games and even brought back Shadow Pokémon. You’re literally a certified hater
I think the multimedia aspect is so important. People engage with it at very different levels. Compared to something like Star Wars which is mainly film and TV.
>>59218080>half of this top 10 is just Disney
>>59218565Disney must be stopped
>>59218303>SV outsold Gen 1 in Japan and has generally pretty favourable ratingsthat's..... fucking sad... yet poetic in some way, the highest selling games are ones that are glitchier than the average Bethesda game
>>59219689Glitches are soul thoughbeit
>>59219689Glitchy? Bad frame drops sure but what glitches did the game actually have? Wasn’t all those videos of glitches from people playing on emulators
>>59218303"Japan just consoom" is a valid meme for that reason. A country that's obsessed with mascot characters and all things cute, of course Ishihara had the right idea when he pushed to pump out as much merch as possible. Pokemon now is just so synonymous with Japan that it's like Disney to us, as in there is a version with that license for fucking everything that you can buy. In fact Pikachu is likely more akin to Hello Kitty (just a merch mascot) than Mickey Mouse, who still manages to be regarded as "representing something more" than merchandise, in the eyes of the Japanese general public.
>>59219689If the drooling masses had enough self control to demand some level of quality Pokemon wouldn't be in the state it is to begin with.
>>59219737Good games sell and bad games don't. This is pretty simple anon.
>>59219725It’s called branding. People in the states also have their favorite brands. If Pokemon went more wide spread with their merch im sure their sales would grow even more. Why would I buy a regular toaster if I could get the official Pokemon toaster that appeals to me? >>59219741SV had a rough launch.
>>59218080I'm surprised at how big Winnie the Pooh of all things is, not that there's anything wrong with the character or stories, but it certainly doesn't feel like it's everywhere. I'd have thought Peanuts would be bigger especially considering Japan's Snoopy obsession. Also how the FUCK is something like Anpanman so profitable when it's virtually unknown outside Japan? Shocking that it's bigger than Doraemon. >>59218565>>59219648Does Disney actually own the Pooh IP? I thought their rights agreement expired or they only owned their own films or something.
>>59218085also didn't read, but I though their points were trash
>>59219779>Why would I buy a regular toaster if I could get the official Pokemon toaster that appeals to me?They've made stuff like that (not necessarily Pokemon) for decades and people tend not to buy them because they're junk. The Japanese however literally can't help themselves from buying all manner of plushies, knick-knacks and housewares that have their favorite characters, it's truly bizarre. Like an American might have a cute mug and a poster but very few are buying fine china with cartoon characters painted on it.
>>59219741>Good games sell and bad games don't.autism + underage
>>59219866we don't sign our posts here
>>59218080This tells me we need a Disney x Pokemon collab. Imagine an official Pokemon-Disney Princess. Her team would be cute af and she could have my babies
>>59218331Oh shut the fuck up you are not Japanese you're just some retard ESL thirdie.
>>59218080>J.K Rowling Wow. Had no idea Harry Potter shit was that popular. Good for her
>>59218080>all anglosphere or Japan Other countries, are you even trying?
>>59220012China # 1 in bootlegs
>>59219719My experience with SV that game still have glitches even with real hardware. But then again, glitches and exploits in Pokemon series is main feature, just ask anyone in this board. And don't even get me started with Tera raid. That piece of shit have multiple issue with battle system, and you can't deny that.
>>59218372Amazing that. You got SO close to the point, but were ultimately so far away. GO's for casuals and I've reset over more shinies than I care to remember because they popped shiny while I was hunting some other target and didn't care about losing them. As I said, I'll pay a pleb filter and get a video game for the trouble, instead of play a skinnerbox trying to keep me invested to try and profit off me.And if it made a "great companion piece" to the games, it would be a Dream Radar type game, that communicated DIRECTLY with the games to send special pokémon to it. But it's not, it's an app that can only talk to the app Game Freak made to drop pokémon in before being allowed to pass into a Game Freak game (but ONLY after you caught an example generated by a Game Freak game). It's like they DELIBERATELY quarantined it from their games.
>>59219971>no counter-argument>just mindless triggered seethingConcession accepted.
>>59218080>scalpers will fight in public like actual animalsPost vidsScalpers are subhuman, and calling them part of the "community" is an insult to actual TCG players (which I'm not one of, for the record). I wouldn't even call most of them casuals, they're more like tourists.>Smogon>true turbo nerd side of the fandom>trueCompetitive play is only one part of Pokémon games, let alone the whole franchise. This kind of fan may or may not be deeply invested in other aspects.There are turbo nerds for the anime too, for example.>It's hard to gauge whether Pokémon Masters EX is popular enough to stand on its ownIt is in Japan, apparently. Definitely not internationally.>>59218303There are also all sorts of events in Japan that we'll never get to see in the rest of the world.
>>59219825It's no wonder they're having a birthrate crisis
>>59220449They are a subset of the TCG community and the thugs of the Pokemon fan base. They’re like the real life Team Skull only gay
>>59220310Drink CLR
>CONTINUING to seethe mindlesslyNah, more fun to watch you spack out discovering you're not the centre of the universe.
