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>lost the better typing
>bonus stats wasted on making it a mixed attacker
>only thing that stands out is its speed
What ability does this need to not be a gargantuan flop?
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Download?
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>>59221893
Dragon's Maw maybe
>>59221896
Def not
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>>59221893
>mixed attacker
>wasted
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>>59221904
you need to play Pokémon to post here
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>>59221893
Pre nerf protean
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>>59221893
someone explain how this design is a special attacker design
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>>59221939
It's a fighter jet. Technological advanced = special attacker
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I thought maybe they would give it dragonize because it's pure dragon now but Garchomp barely learns any normal moves. It doesn't even get hyper voice.
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>>59221917
Post nerf protean is actually a real possibility, which would justify losing the ground typing
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>>59221939
Wind attacks and dragon breath
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>>59221893
anon
it's a pure dragon with the theme of "the fucker flies"
it's getting levitate
it's the scrapped mega flygon lmao
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>>59221906
And what gives you that impression?
Mixed attackers are notoriously unviable in comp outside of a few examples, and even then, they usually prioritize one attack stat over the other.
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>>59221893
Delta Stream
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>>59221893
.......at least it doesn't get x4 fucked by Ice cubes now....heh
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Because it's default form and other mega have sand based ability (sand veil and sand force) and it now lose it's ground type, I wouldn't be surprised if they also give it an ability than benefit from -or at least make it immune to- sandstorm too.
I'm thinking either sand rush, or overcoat. Or knowing gamefreak just sand veil again lmao.
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>>59221893
Inverse of Analytic, boosting power if it moves first.
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>>59221906
Mixed attackers are great. Take your own advice and sit down lil bro...
Clearly someone has never used a Mix Mence or Mix Ape.
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>>59221893
If Garchomp gets Nasty Plot in Champions later down the line, it’ll be good.
You have 151 Speed, are only slightly frailer than before, and you get to pick and choose which attacking side you want to use ir even just use both with Sword Dance and Draco/Fire Blast for physical walls.
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>>59221893
>130/140/151
>flop
Lmao
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>>59221893
It doesn't even need an ability with those stats, but if they wanted to go maximum funny, Aerilate
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>>59221893
>>59221904
>>59221906
>>59222648
Mixed Attackers can be good, but often fail because you need to have really high stats and the right moves.
Something Camerupt is a falled Mixed attacker because its low BST not letting it even hit that hard.
Primal Groudon is a good mixed attacker since it has 180 Atk, 150 SpA, and doesn’t have dogshit bulk, letting you use P-Blades and Sun boosted Overheats.
You need to have AT LEAST 600 BST or effectively 600 BST after abilities to be considered a “good” mixed attacker.
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>>59222709
This, it's funny how most box legends have the stats to be potential mixed attackers but only a few ended up being so. The stats that go into atk or spatk are just wasted.
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>>59221893
No point guessing on the ability because it's gonna get something brand new. Garchomp Z being a super special mystery gift mon in ZA means they are gonna shill it with something crazy.
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>>59221899
Again with the fucking dragon's maw
You fucking retards see literally any dragon pokémon and start mumbling drawgwun maww with your drooling mouth
Can't you think of anything else?
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>>59222814
I feel like since USUM they're moving away from this. Hell we have box legends with abilities that raise either Atk or SpA on switch-in two generations in a row.
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>>59222648
you could do the mix gimmick better with regular mega chomp
hitting super hard on one side even without investment and then surprising the opponent with potent invested attacks on the offhand is better than distributing your attacks between two equally powerful sides
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>>59222814
Some do, and not just Kyurem Black in Gens 5-7 where they are forced to.
Primal Groudon I mentioned likes using Overheat. Rayquaza sometimes runs Draco Meteor. Mega Salamence uses Hyper Voice and Double-Edge. Yveltal often uses both Physical and Special moves. Dialga now uses Heavy Slam to target non-Ubers that are usually way lighter than it. Of course you also have Deoxys that wants the benefits of both sides and has shit defenses anyways.
Not all Pokemon want to use Mixed sets on purpose, as some like Lunala are better off just boosting with Calm Mind.
And yeah, they could have put the 61 SpA points into Garchomp's Atk, but you can just claim that for everything. It's not Mega Garchomp's stats are bad. It can choose between either offense like Lucario, forcing the opponent to play guessing games, and even Sword Dance sets have use for a strong Draco Meteor.
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>>59221893
I am thinking either Speed Boost or Levitate.
Or maybe something like Steelworker that gives it some affinity with the Flying type despite not being part-Flying itself?
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>>59221893
it's probably getting levitate. if it's not levitate, it's getting something worse.

but it's also possible that the Z Megas are going to get something special (but Mega Absol Z getting a super special awesome ability when it already completely overshadows regular Mega Absol would be gay and retarded)
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>>59222814
This thing isn’t mixed for a few reasons: it’s ability means it’s best off on a team as a tank and support mon, it’s signature move is special, and it can boost its own special with meteor beam while attacking.
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>>59221893
You are really underestimating how good it'll be to have Earth Power, Power Gem and Flamethrower coming off a high special attack mon that's 1 speed higher than Mega Aerodactyl.
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>>59221893
This shit will end up with Levitate and you gonna like it
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>>59221893
it doesn't need to invest in attack to take out Zard Y. Garchomp Z is a successful mixed attacker, you can do whatever the fuck you want with it even before considering its ability. It also sure as hell isn't dying in one hit
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>>59221893
>What ability does this need to not be a gargantuan flop?
Unironically sand force. Lets it make up for the lost ground typing, even makes iron head better anti-fairy coverage

And so regular megachomp gets sand rush instead
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>Draco Meteor on a 141 SpAtk mon
>Faster than Dragapult too
It's already insane
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>>59223493
Mega aero is a nothingburger mon that only sees use because all the better megas are unavailable
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>>59221893
Either Tough Claws or Sharpness (whichever one Absol Z doesn't get)
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>>59221893
It's probably getting Adaptability
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>>59221893
huge power
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>and it can now remain constantly hovering
Levitate. It's getting Levitate.
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>>59222696
>Mega
Yes
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>>59224627
>outspeeds even common scarfers
>will spam rock slide
>dual wingbeat shits on many pokemon
>bulky enough to normally not die in one
>can use tailwind, wide guard, or a coverage move, opponent has to guess
You know nothing
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>>59221893
Its like you never used bulky Grachomp.
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You guys keep forgetting Z megas has guarateee unique rule.
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>>59228524
what does that mean?



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