Gay Duck of +1 Attack and Speed EditionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch with a mobile release later. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>NewsNewest Patch Notes: https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/71525/2026 Global Challenge I Online Competition happening now. Double Battles. Participants gets a Venusaur: https://news.pokemon-home.com/en/page/743.htmlGlobal Challenge 2026 Special Roster Released: https://serebii.net/pokemonchampions/recruit/globalchallenge2026specialroster.shtmlChampion Tier & Master ranks 1-3 unlocked for current seasonFree Machamp mystery gift code: CHAMP10NMobile release possibly leaked for June: https://xcancel.com/CentroLeaks/status/2041378934739108104>Resources and useful linkshttps://champions.pokemon.com/en-us/Community Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enNew Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 quick coupons, 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Mega Kalos starters and E-Floette require ZA transfer.>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPh (embed) (embed)Previous: >>59220272
This one was designed so well , but urshifu killed it's vibe.
I do not care for Paldean pokemon
>>59224213GWNHSW
This is the worst post nut clarity I've ever had. I'm going to church.
I still haven't ran into a single mega scizor even in masters. I gotta wonder why? It's pretty good
>>59224240Incin
>>59224240Scizor is more of the counterpick versus Floette, and you only see her often in tournaments and not ladder
nect time add pokebase.app in the OP please. i'm sure some other stuff is missing as well...
>>59224239Ewwwwwwwwww
when it says "communicating..." is it my internet shitting up or is it just the opponent selecting a move?
>>59224239champions?
>>59224282>>59224286This is what happens when the fag duck is in the op
>Opponent leads Kingambit and M Gengar>I lead with Scrappy Kangaskhan and Farig>Fake Out the Gengar>Farig blocks the Sucker Punch with its ability>Gets TR set-up>”The match has ended due to a forfeit”Never stops being funny
My fellow daily mission players I am finally masters2 losses, one i threw autopiloting, one flinchhaxxedGengar is EVed to outspeed and ohko no bulk mega frostlasskommo-o is eved to ohko no bulk chomphardest matchup is trickroom with giraffe imo
>>59224363I'm convinced anyone running mega gengar is a complete retard. They literally don't even think
>>59224312I hate all three Paldea starters equally
>>59224363>roared my opponents farig 4 times and they forfeit When will trick roomlets learn
>>59224363>Opponent leads Kanga/Farig>I lead Gengar/RotomW>He fakouts into gengar protect>rotom tricks choice scarf into farig>he trickrooms
>pilot a Meganium team from pokeaim>fucking Mega Tyranitar is more useful This thing feels like it never has an opportunity to be useful
>lead dragonite/rotom-w vs farig/incin>inner focus blocks intimidate so he goes to fake out rotom>helping hand on rotom is faster than fake out, dragonite mega evolves and draco meteors farig into the Earth's crust>win
>aggron taking 195% damage over the course of a gameMan aggron/sinistcha can be some bullshit if you don't shut it down early.
Should I use Snarl on Scarf Hydreigon... or should I give it a cheeky Zen Headbutt for Sneedlers...
>>59224430Snarl is like the entire reason to run Hydreigon
Is Fling King’s Rock a bad meme?
>non-mega eternal floette ability is flower veil>when rillaboom gets added you'll be able to lead floette + rillaboom and protect it from intimidate before mega evolving
>>59224435If you struggle against the fish of 200bp ghost moves scarf dark pulse counters it
>>59224445Only dynamax is allowed when rillaboom returns
>(embed) (embed)what the fuck. whats the point of the paste if you guys arent gonna use it at all?>>59224281aight, ill add it in the paste. anything else that you want?
>>59224448In a manner of speaking. Modest hydreigon still outspeeds jolly fish, but dark pulse has about a 60% chance to kill (plus flinch), so the fish could still rape one of your teammates if you're unlucky.
im scared that im winning too much because my team is good and that if i switch to a different team im going to get blasted down the ladder
>>59224488am i mistaken in thinking you dont actually know how your main team works then?because if you do then the core understanding of how teams work should translate to any team, really
>>59224496the one im using now? yes i know how it works because i built it. I've played a lot of teams either copying teams or making them myself but this is the only team im winning all my games with
>>59224462It slams out over 100+bo moves that are either adaptability boosted or rain boosted. Its always probably killing something
>>59224488If youre not trying to or have hit champion, it doesnt really matter. If you are its better to just spam 1 team
>3def chomp will always survive dragon claw from chompthanks joey
>>59224543im now 2k elo higher with this team than i was with any other team, and it doesn't show signs of hitting a wall yet, thats quite a drop if i switch to other teams
>>59224561sorry 200*
>>59224561If you have general knowledge about leads, counters, switches, and speed tiers theoretically you should be able to switch teams and start to pilot it well after a while but I think for the most part you'll probably lose at the start. Maining teams to achieve a goal is what most top players do. I.e. wolfes rank 1 team and Aaron's 17 wins streak team. Also casual exists if yiu just need to scratch the itch
Which YouTuber actually gives a good amount of advice when playing a team? Wolfe feels like he’s just hamming it up. I like aim but he doesn’t always offer the advice or explain why he does things.
>>59224582I like james baek and cybertron to see how they play, but I feel like most are too autistic to understand they need to explain why they're doing what they do unless it's one of those streams where they're coaching.
>>59224582Aaron (cybertron) is really trying to pander to a newer audience with his champions videos. I appreciate the graphics he makes.Wolfe actually does explain things in a more granural way>i think x is strong in meta now, and my team is weak to Y, so i bring in Z>i think X move is better for this set because Ybut its just right now he is just making content for the sake of making content. id give him a month before he slows down and starts making normal videos again
>>59224203>Showdown mods say they're not adding champions stuff to natdex or making a champions natdex metaLiterally why. This defeats the whole fucking point of natdex in the first place.
I actually watched Joey build a team and coach a girl streamer and it was pretty good as an intro video. A lot of super basic stuff I assume you guys can gloss over but some good ideas are explained and they walk through a few battles
>>59224622is there a video on this?im guideanon and im really looking for more video references. Right now im just writing based of decades old smogon articles, since videos in general either go too in deep, or not deep enough
>>59224637https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrnVB102SMo
>>59224637Also, if you're going to delve into just game mechanics relating to the game and not specific champions stuff, during Reg J I watched Battle Room, Baek, and Cybertron for teams since the only point of that was to use stuff that's new and they had some where they explained how things worked a bit but when it worked it was mostly for laughs. You might want to check out stuff by Leonard Craft/Wobbefet, I don't know how many videos he makes but he had a good video explaining his meme team based on killing Tatsugiri while inside Dozo then winning with Psych Up Cresselia (and an Ursaluna you don't bring to matches so your opponent thinks its a Trick Room team) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QthgImlo5Ewhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDLs4g9tTjYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-jfBhpS-0U
>>59224573i mean i wouldn't call what wolf and aaron do "maining", they play new teams every team
be real with me, how am i supposed to enjoy this retarded game when there moves like rock slide? I didn't even realize it's a 30% chance to flinch, holy fucking shit dude. You lose to the most brain dead morons spamming this shit, crucial moves not going off and i'm supposed to pretend there's some amazing outplays going on? I'd suicide if i played this shit seriously.
We should be able to dust our Pokemon for VP or something
>>59224662any strategy that relies on rng won't go the distance, it can win any one game but longterm consistency wins out
>>59224665Nigger just queue up and mash the A button if you want vp its literally free
>>59224668It just feels bad to release Pokemon without getting anything in return
>>59224672Yeah, something in exchange would be nice. Even if it's a pittance of VP or whatever.
I feel like the monetization system for champs is good, but once you run out of training tickets it becomes broken. Like I only get to play 3-4 games a day, and I got all the important pokemon I need from the ranch. Now the game gives me too many recruitment tickets and not enough VP. I legit never have enough to spend on new teams, so i've been stuck with the same one. I feel like the game was supposed to solve these issues, i'm tempted to just grind the showdown ladder again.
>>59224683Just wait until there is some special banner with rate up on being shiny or having a special ball, where using VP for pulls starts making sense
yeah idk this game sucks, my account is bricked because i experimented with teams too much. I have no tickets left, this game legit punishes you for exploring options. You get a whopping 300 vp for winning and maybe 150 for losing, this shit is a joke.
>>59224693Nigga just save up? How could you possibly fuck up so monumentally that not a single mon you have is actually useable?
God I hate this bitch so much
>>59224693Its not bricked just stop being retarded and play the game
>>59224693You don’t need to win, just enter matches and spam the A button
>>59224705>>59224697>oh cool i wanna try that team>5k VP>uhhh this moveset is bad i wanna try another>-2000 VPi thought this game was supposed to be seemless, this shit is retarded. I legit played the entirety of SV just using rental codes this was way more enjoyable than this trash.
>>59224699They purposely put the hot girl at the ranch so you instinctively want to visit it more
>>59224715How do you waste ALL of your moveset tickets? I have over 50 saved up because the game literally shits out VP at you just with dailies and weeklies.
Alright Torkal user and psyspamers, I get it now. It’s fun. I was wrong.
i'm new to vgc, but doesn't this ladder kinda suck balls? where's the skill in not knowing your opponents move sets. you're just guessing what they have most of the time and if they have a move you're not expecting it can just be gg
>>59224715I actually agree, I think they should be way more lenient with training tickets. The quick tickets are fucking pointless after a few days, and the pokemon they give you tend to be abhorrent so you need tickets anyway. Part of me feels like I would rather this game have had a flat download fee that turned out to be a true sim rather than this freemium thing.
>>59224786the game is 7 dollars bare minimum, you can't play for very long with only 30 slots.
If i post my team will anons give me advice on how to lead? I think i'm getting better at it and not defaulting to the same sneasler aero lead. I've been doing arch + basc, it's been doing well. I still struggle though, i get fucked by pokemon using encore. I have no idea how you are supposed to beat that move with no set knowledge. .
Mega Froslass my beloved
>>59224795ill do it anon.i need to work my mind in theorycrafting since im still writing the guide anyways.Post the team (either in game screenshot or pokepaste) (dont literally write it out)
>>59224640here I thought its pokeaim Joey lmaoThough I am pleasantly surprised, this is legitimately one of the best team building video that i can find, in terms of practical explanations, beat by beat.I dunno who this twitch girl is, but the fact that she theorycrafts out loud and tries her best to elaborate on her thoughts with enough guidance is perfect for learning. >constantly trying to think of Mons but she only knows a few>someone has to tell her what even are her optionsI think this two lines already explains the problem with teambuilding by scratch for the average normie in general.
>>59224683Daily missions give you 500 VP and weekly missions gives you 9000 VP, for a total of 12500 VP each week just for playing the game, not counting the extra VP you get for winning/losing games. That's enough to recruit and fully train 3 pokemon each week. What are you doing that this isn't enough VP?
>>59224819I was trying to make my favorites mega venu and scizor work but idk. Venu team is too slow and you lose to hax, rock slide bullshit destroys you. Scizor should be good but everything resists steel. He's great against fairies but it feels like the strong points end there. I got 19,000 with this team, i don't know when to use chomp though. I only use him when i see a charizard.
>>59224831Probably buying cosmetics to look like a grill
>>59224784i think the best way to look at competitive pokemon is it is very similar to a card game, like Pokemon tcg or Master Duel if youve played those.You might not know perfectly what the opponent is having, but for the most part you know what the opponent is about to do. >they have a pelipper? expect their team to have some sort of rain user>they bring a trick room pokemon and slow mons in general? expect trick room to come up and to play under itvery rarely do you literally have zero ideas what teams do. Its like any pokemon campaign, you fight a bug catcher, you know they are gonna use bug types. Obviously now you are playing against people, they arent gonna let you sweep them with one mon, but everyone plays with SOME plan in mind, and 99% of the time, team preview is enough to tell you what their plan is
>>59224843I guess i just need more experience, I did start wining a lot after posting that. Knowing what to lead with feels like what really matters.
>>59224843Unless your in ultra rank, people there will run pelipper, torkoal, mega froslass, aero and firafarig on the same team. You just don't what the fuck is gonna happen
>>59224721Speaking of, why haven't I seen Ecchi of her on the board yet? Seriously we get 30 posts a day about underage girls and animals
>>59224838> i don't know when to use chomp though. I only use him when i see a charizard.Isnt Aerodactyl is the dedicated charizard killer?In any case, think of garchomp as your off-rain strat, when you are fighting sand or something. With tailwind up, he should be picking up pretty nice damage with EQ spam.For the average lead, against any normal team, you cant go wrong with pelipper + basc. You threaten big water damage immediately, and you can set up tailwind with Peli.Against charizard, there are no better leads than Aerodactyl and Sneasler, with Peli in the back. If you fake out the venusaur lead, dual wingbeat should kill venu. If you think thats too agressive, you can fake out and rock slide, and next turn bring in Peli. Archaludon always wants tailwind, so protect plus tailwind aerodactyl is a lead if you think opponent will just play slow.Didnt i literally do a breakdown of this exact team leads in the new player guide?>>59224853i mean if they are playing dogshit, then you probably can roll them by spamming your good moves
>>59224859Because you haven’t been looking
>Sylveon is still the best eeveelution at rank 31Not surprising. The king eeveelution remains unchallenged. Maybe WW will give us a new eeveelution to supplant him but I doubt it. Fairy types are pretty good regardless of meta conditions. >Glaceon is ranked 103, up from the 150s last weekThis biggest indicator of Snows viability in the current meta. Still mostly outclassed by Rotom-Frost but Glaceon has better bulk allowing her to survive more CCs from Sneedler.>Umbreon ranked 102Actually, very shocking considering how common Fighting is in this meta. No idea what Umbreons are doing right now but whatever it is he's doing it right.>Jolteon ranked 101This biggest surprise of them all. But he's the fastest non-mega electric type in a meta dominated by zard and rain teams. A meta dependant placing but still admirable.>Espeon ranked 159I don't even know what this pokemons niche is. Guessing Magic Bounce is a hard carry here.>Leafeon rank 175Not surprising. Leafy has always been a niche pick. Viable but completely outclassed by other chlorophyll users. His only niche is outspeeding Venu in the Sun to set up Rainy Day.>Flareon ranked 196The worst eeveelution remains the worst. Big sad. Unlikely to change even when we get Toxic Orb.
Man, I can't find a mega that fits well into a rain team, or a sand team that isn't ttar (as a secondary mega, in case bringing ttar is suicide). I've been rotating megas on my rain team just to try to find something that fits well. It'd be nice to have a mega that could have Drizzle like Charizard has Drought, and that's unlikely unless one of the second batch of new megas has it.
>>59224886well we missed the boat on Drampa, seriously what the fuck ILCA
>>59224884Um is good in BSS
>>59224884I forgot Vaporeon, currently ranked 144. Vaporeon lacks a good niche. Her biggest use is on rain teams tanking with Rest or again on rain teams using Water Absorb to tank some more. Also, Wish passing but that's never been a real strategy in doubles.
>>59224886swampertbros its our time
>>59224868>pelliper basckeep forgetting basc can't get faked out, yeah i'll try that.
>>59224784There are plenty of open team sheet best of three tournaments on limitless. Closed team sheet best of one cheese can be fun sometimes if you have a gimmick idea, but open team sheet best of three is a lot more fun to play long term.
>>59224884his/hercoomer...
>>59224829She played in the pchal meme vgc tournament with Flygon (the nuzlocke guy, not the mon) and got third then attended a few regionals and had a high point of going 4-4. I hate her personality, but at least I can say it isn’t just for the camera because she spazzed a bit on stage and fucked up the stream of a regional a bit ago by bringing the wrong team.Unironically, the Freezai video from the pchal event was really good as a storyline, but has some good stuff about how to make a team work/counter-team. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xa2mIp2XtD4
>>59224902
If someone uses feints on a mon that protected can the partner mon hit it as well?
>>59224983Yes
>>59224886In a sense Mega Scizor and Mega Aggron work. Both hate Fire and the rain can tone down the damage done
>>59224983Yes, I see a M-Gardevoir got piled on after it used Protect. A pokemon used Feint and then Sneasler went in for the kill with Dire Claw instead of Fake Out
>>59224715>>59224786Maybe you should play the actual games so you have Pokemon to use? Whenever I want to try a new team it costs me like 1500 VP Max, and that's because of moves i can't teach in older games. All my egg moves breeding stock boxes are still serving me well. With the elimination of IVs my breeding procces is reduced by like 80%I want a new T-tar with knock off? My "KO-tar" Larvitar goes into the daycare/picnick with Ditto, and now even nature in meaningless because of mints. SO literally the first egg is my new Tyranitar.Play the actual games.>B-but I don't want to ree Game Freak sucks bla blaPlay the actual games.You want to be able to have an army of mons and try new teams without wasting VP?Play the actual games.Don't speak back to me. I am right, you are wrong. End of the discussion.I already have 2 Raichu's ready for Mega-X and Mega-Y. Fully EV trained with proper movesets. I mean shit, I am even making a 3rd Rai for the X mega that's less of a supporter(No fake-out etc) and just a full on phys attacker.Play the actual games
Honestly one should have a stable team or two to fall back to before experimenting. That's just a normal thing in any resource management game
>>59225053true. on one hand, sure go make your super special team using psychic terrain armarouge if you want.on the other hand, just make the damn charizard team and click heat wave to farm VP already. Yes it is unoriginal and uninspiring, but everyone who starts should just do it as a baseline.
>>59224838NTA but consider Heliolisk in place of Arch. I've seen great succes with it. Or at least try it out.It completely shits on opposing basc for free.I just wish specs were in the game..
How can I improve on my team? I'm a huge scrub so I can't get out of Ultra Ball. I'm sure it's a lot down to skill but I feel my team could be better. Sinistcha is there for support and countering Trick Room teams but I rarely bring it. Anything better I should be running instead? Should I be looking into a completely different team? I wanna keep using Feraligatr (and I honestly don't think it's the weak link of the party right now)
How do I get the "see my opponent's choices" cheat that everyone seems to be using? It's not a coincidence that everybody waits until the very last second to pick teams and moves.
Just missed 4 wisps in a row it's nice when the game just hands wins to your opps
>>59225009>>59225041>broke my aerodactyl's sash with feint toxicroak and then finished it it off with surf rotom wash.Those damn japs.Then next time I should k ow
>>59225093>use a lead I never use against zard team>uses perfect counter to my leadYou might be on to something
>>59225071Cha is a fantastic physical attacker answer, and I feel like you might get more mileage out of making it more physically defensive and then dropping Incineroar for something that covers your bad matchups, like a scarf basc or something
>>59225147ALWAYS make decisions in your head and make your selections at the last possible second. There is absolutely some kind of input reading hack going around.
>>59225154Or tell me.Is sneasler+aero a common enough threat for zard teams to warrant a scarf rotom that outspeeds aero and garchomp?Because I have never seen zardfags lead with that despite facing them multiple times with the same team.
>>59225093>>59225147>opponent has pelipper and basculegion>I have rotom wash and sneasler>"hmm I'll go for discharge on rotom and protect on sneasler. they won't expect a spread move right now">opponent uses wide guard with pel and targets my rotom with bascWhat the FUCK
>>59225071>Feraligatr I think you want a better water STAB. Probably cut Aqua Jet or Protect for Waterfall, or Liquidation>PelipperI'm not a fan of U-Turn. Weather Ball is more reliable.>Sinistcha I"d cut Strength Sap for Life Dew on Sinistcha, also give it the Sitrus Berry.>InceleroarI think it's too passive here. Especially with the Rain debuffing blitz.Overall for a Rain team there's a serious lack of good water STAB to take advantage of the rain.
>>59225164Wide guard is very common on pelipper
>>59225154Kek, get outskilled
>>59225168But to use it in a situation where there is little threat of a spread move?
>>59225164They may have expected Rock Slide from Sneasler here
has anyone else just had horrible luck with people time stalling in master rank? first two games of the day, retards time stalling. i dont remember this being an issue in any other pokemon game ive played online.
>Start using Coil Milo>Start winning more because it can be a pain to deal with>Feel dirtyHow do I get over the need to be a hipster faglord?
>>59225184you feel dirty cause you're being a faggot. thats the proper response, you still have some semblance of shame
>>59225169Anon is right, I literally use the move/team selection showing hack lol it takes data from the server. Im top 100 on the ladder thanks to it. You just have the program open on your computer connected to the switch and it tells you what your opponent has selected. Ofc anon here did figure out the counter, cant do shit if they select at the last second.If you see someone taking their sweet ass turn every time this is why.Not sharing it BTW.
>>59225154If you genuinely believed this, why would you continue playing?>>59225170Pelipper has a very high chance of getting fake outed to break sash in that situation, so why wouldn't he wide guard to stop the worst case scenario when he's already got a disadvantageous lead?
>>59225162>Is sneasler+aero a common enough threat for zard teams to warrant a scarf rotom that outspeeds aero and garchomp?Yes? It's like, THE most common lead for Zard teams if you have Aero+Sneasler, because Aero+Sneasler absolutely requires you to set the pace or the Zard team is just gonna roll you over. Scarf Rotom is one of the best ways to shut down Aero.
I miss 4 wisps in a row but teams hi 3 scald burns on me and 4 sleep powders
I hate this meta desu its just a watered down version of sv with some new megas sprinkled in
>>59225071Replace Incineroar for Basculegion.
>>59225191Then why did those niggers never lead with that before?
>>59225224Because a vast majority of Zard Y players are legally retarded.
>>59225205And a refreshing lack of terasharting
>>59225170What little threat? He has two electric weaknesses on the field and you have rotom out.
I love running discharge on rorom and just paralyzing everyone on the field
>>59225258This but Mega Ampharos
For me its mega camerupt
>>59225170Since his Basc is scarfed he was probably worried about electroweb pushing his speed below sneasler
Really cool when you call out a destiny bond on a full health dnite but you hit yourself in confusion and lose the game
>>59225297Next time bring a lum berry, bub.
>>59225184This game has so much bullshit going on I don't feel bad at all using cheese strats on fags
>>59225071Take dragon dance off for liquidation or Flip turn.Stop using brightpowder.Always keep sinischta in the back for gatr double edge spam.Decide whether he needs tailwind or trick room on team preview.Considering you’re using archaludon you will use gatr very little and never lead with it, so i recommend using it as a late-game carry
>>59225183For me I’d rather afk/close the app than forfeit. I’m already tilted and shouldn’t play another game. You can wait for your points booboo
>>59225184everybody should be running taunt on every team if they want to win in this meta you are just punishing people for bad teambuilding don't feel bad, the hypnosis spam will continue until morale improves.
>>59225071Change dragon dance for liquidation or flip turn.Use gatr as a late-game sweeper.Consider coaching over protect on sneasler to buff Feraligatr once your opponent has no fairy answer to it. Make sure to bring sinischta to heal him and also pick between tailwind or trick room appropriately
How do I murder garchomp?
>>59225399I just double edge with gatr
>>59225399Ice punch ttar
How good is Hydreigon currently?
>>59225405Lmao
>>59225407I just wanna know if I should recruit it or just go with Rotom Heat, who is less cool.
>>59225405Impossible to tell since nobody plays it.
>>59225399Throw an Ice move on anything that can learn one on your team
>>59225414I'ma be honest man I have no idea. I've fought one hydregon, it got sent in, fired off a draco then died. It does get tailwind and it's deceptively bulky but that 4x fairy weakness sucks hard and garchomp is on every other team. Sneasler also nails it with cc but I do see more and more sneaslers not even running cc. If you like hydregon give it a chance, it can't be that bad
>>59225151Thanks for the tips. Yeah Incineroar is starting to lose utility from all the counters people are bringing, but I feel he's always a massive help whenever I play with him.>>59225167I'll try out those tips, thanks! But I'm not sure about cutting Aqua Jet, it's been incredibly useful. Rain boosted it kills Charizards without bulk investment and deals a lot of damage to everyone in general. I feel like with Double Edge being so powerful as a STAB, Liquidation feels redundant. Aqua Jet ends up serving a different utility. I'm even considering switching Dragon Dance for Swords Dance because of it>>59225222I know Basc would do great with Pelipper, but isn't it perhaps a bit redundant with Feraligatr? I feel like I wouldn't bring both.>>59225344>>59225393That makes sense. You are totally right that there are some matches where Arch does the most work
>>59225405LolLmao even
>>59225450Yeah but just bring scizor
>>59225449Basc and feraligatr do basically the same thing, feraligatr does more damage until last respects gets buffed to 150. Not really worth it to bring both just switch to sinischta if you wanna block fake out or replace gatr with basc, tho I doubt you wanna do the latter.
>>59225456Sinistcha really is every Pokemons best friend
>>59225187Victory tastes better than shame though>>59225329Starting to feel the same.>>59225376>Hypnosis spamWith the amount of Incin's running around, a lot of my battles were actually won by spammig Muddy Water lol. I mean, it's a weak move, but with Coil it becomes 100% ACC, which eliminates those key misses. And even at +2Sp.A it's already hitting pretty hard. It gets even better when they parting shot and bring Incin in back later.+4Sp.A/+2Def/+2Acc fat and bulky Milo on the field free to spam Muddy Waters/Hypnosis? Don't mind if I do.I love that just having Milo present can screw Incin over, lol.
>>59224699She's so fucking ugly....easily one of the worst Pokegirls they've shat out
Does Sylveon have anything it really wants to beat at its speed tier?
>>59225449The thing about DD is that you switch out a lot in doubles so it ends up feeling like a wasted moveslot, just use coaching.Liquidation is more useful than you think:32+ Atk Feraligatr-Mega Liquidation vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gardevoir-Mega: 132-156 (92.3 - 109%) -- 50% chance to OHKOPic related is under rain, which you have on your team.Personally I like running a screener on my team to cuck people from doing too much damage to feraligatr, i run rain dance on that to cuck fire and snow weather but if you’re using archaludon I don’t think you have much room for that.
HOW DO YOU FLINCH MY MIMIKYU TWICE WITH ROCKSLIDE AND THEN HIT A WILL O WISP ON THE GAMBIT
I think running a Perishtrap team is difficult. It could go wrong at any moment. I'd rather just spam Rock Slide or Blizzard.
>>59225467She's cute in a 'I want to bully her into depraved sex acts' kind of way.
>>59225488>I'd rather just spam Rock Slide or BlizzardSame
>me, recognizing my opponent has only one play to keep him alive and making the optimal read>my opponent, being a suicidal retard and clicking the attack button and winning anywaysSometimes I feel like being smart makes you worse at the game.
>scald burns twice in a row
>>59225493Senpai they knew the only chance they had to win was attacking, then they are gonna attack. The opponent isn't playing to lose
>>59225490See the artist there has to spread her eyes out because her face is naturally smashed in lol
Its fucking insane watching my team get chain statused by 30% procs and I cant hit a play rough
>>59225493
>>59225503Looks the same to me
>>5922551230% is a fucking ridiculous percentage for Rock Slide and Dire Claw. Meanwhile they reduce para chance to 12%. Gamefreak should just do what Smogon does and have dedicated tiers for each Pokemon, they clearly can't balance for shit.
>>59225513Me on the left clicking Blizzard every turn even when my opponent has water types on the field.
>press rock slide on my excadrill for the win>misses both>opponent lands hurricane in sand>opponent lands thunder in sand
I'm burnt out on Doubles. Any good Singles teams revolving around Mega Scizor? I love setting up Swords Dance late game and shitting all over things with Bullet Punch.
ooo-weee-ooo-eee-oooo~ weh!
>>59225545man, primarina was so good early on, and then sneasler started being on literally every team and you have to invest so much into defense to not get OHKO'd that it just isn't worth running anymore
>>59225493Predicting a protect isn’t a bad play even if its a little risky.Whats retarded is when your opponent makes a gamble like>both of these mons resist heat wave>i should click heat wave anyway in case he switches to sinischta>even tho idk if he has sinischta in the backIf something like that happened while I’m switching to sinischta I would consider it a lucky misclick or just a retard.
>>59225404He slow
When are the best times to do double protecting?
>>59225467Meh...I'd hate fuck just to shut her up. Reminds me of annoying Asians
Ice cream is in the game? Brainfreeze is on the menu! Unironically better than Froslass because it eats sucker punches after an aurora veil. 1-3 hit KO-er for me in singles that is riddled with ice weaknesses. Help me build my team btw. This team got me to Ultra Rank 2, when I was hardstuck at 4 for a while.
>>59224665With how limited the boxes are, yea we should get something at least for releasing
>>59225467This
>want to play champions>autism decrees I cannot play until each pokemon has the correct ball, size, and a mark/ribbon for the title>have just been playing mainline since the game came outThis is a curse
Do we have any champion player in this thread? Or are we all garbage
>>59225646People seem to not be interested in singles all that much here.But for the most part, just letting the opponent set up and then tossing scarf ditto is probably better, with rotom pivoting to a bulkier set instead of your fast volt switch, even if you feel comfortable with it The name of the game in singles is setting up; getting one swords dance/ddance for free, or setting up hazards is golden. I just dont see any synergy in your team really. I think your team is not bad, you have good coverage for a lot of threats im seeing in singles at least
>>59225672>only 300 in the world can be in champion tier>most are japaneseI doubt any are lurking here
>>59225696やばっ。甘いものに目がないけど、ダイエット中だから…
>>59225675Thanks AnonI did some more battling this morning before work and switched ditto with Orthworm to no success (bad opener really)They gutted singles, cast it to the side to rot in the sun, and then trampled on it. It's a damn shame and that makes so much sense. No wonder I see so many Asian names and almost no American onesWith the 3 on 3 set up, I don't see team synergy as necessary, as much as two teams of possibity coverage: special walls/special weak and physical walls/physical weak (yes that reads as four but when building it's two). You don't think the six present (switch Ditto for Orthworm) is ideal? What team are you running? I'd like to run a sample team, as I built this one myself (using the Mon I like primarily, hence the Croak instead of Sneasler)....but nobody who isn't an annoying YouTuber plays singles. I may have to become a YouTuber just to make it big
>>59225668Excuses excuses pansey
Is Floette the only pokemon exclusive to ZA or can I just use a trade bot to get him in Scarlet?
>>59225708Im using mono bug in singles lmao.I dont care much for it either, so im just dicking around trying stuff out.I think your team is fine, its is as you said you dont really need a lot of synergy in singles, as long as you gain tempo from switching into a resisted hit, thats basically a game winning move there. I think orthworm is a great add actually, since it pairs well with rotom. With a shed tail into dragonite, thats a winning formula already>>59225733no you need to trade bot from ZA, though you can trade your SV mons for it in Home
>>59225733You can't trade ZA mons into scarlet.
Why are they so scared of 6v6 battles? At least make it a ranked event outside of private matches.
>>59225071Get rid of Feraligatr, it’s largely a liability unless you’re building around it
>>59225733It's exclusive to ZA. There are a few mons in Champions that aren't in the SV pokedex, like Aegislash.
>>59225739Takes too long.
>>59225739They either don’t want people to play long games or it’s part of the dripfeed schedule.
>>59225733Yeah but not really. Starter stones for kalos are origin locked to za
>>59225739They don't want faggot youtubers to spam hundreds of videos about an unofficial format.
>>59225734Goated, that's all I needed to hear. Lunch break...where are you!! I still want to see your team. I've run into some all bug teams. Heracross whooped my Dragonite with rockblast after aurora veil ended :((
>>59225399Whimsicott, and if you run into a sicko using poison jab then you tip your hay
>>59224683how many fucking teams do you need to build if you're only playing 3-4 games a day? >so i've been stuck with the same one.you must be hyper mismanaging your VP then, like literally dumping all of into cosmetics as soon as you get it
>>59225646>mega dragoniteinteresting. I hardly ever see anyone using it. just the regular one. I assume it runs blizzarrd
>>59225797You'll think I'm retarded Mega DragoniteIce Spinner Stomping Tantrum Dragon DanceFire BlastWish I could remember the EV split but it was something like 24 points in health, 24 in attack and the rest in speed. It does fucking wonders after a DDance
>>59225761ill be honest, i yoinked it off plebbit and between me and some other anon who is also rocking a version of the team it actually does work well
>>59225797I'm also using mega dnite on sand and it so good in certain matchups. Inner focus stops fake outs, then sets tailwind or drops a nuclear draco meteor or thunder, and there isn't a hit in the game that can ohko it. It pretty much always gets 1.5 kills and tailwind up.
>>59225808lol based. if it works it works
>>59225827No. Fucking. Way. Yeah the game and fanbase is cooked. No joke I versed this exact team 10 times back to back. My team was cooking Asians and I was wondering why they went all bug gym leader on me. The heracross version is better (based on what I lose to)
>>59225842No joke i think i had two mirror matches. Yeah this team apparently is pretty popular. I think Heracross is probably better, but so far the BEE works good enough, i am not lacking for coverage
>>59225840YES INDEED!! Hold up, let me get the stats and post my team. Fuck work
>>59225857>ultra
>>59225857>Ultra
>>59225646I thought everyone uses Alolan Ninetales for snow. Does the ice cream have any advantage over it?
>>59225835>and there isn't a hit in the game that can ohko itTheres plenty actually. They just aren’t common in this meta.32+ Atk Dragonize Feraligatr-Mega Helping Hand Double-Edge vs. 32 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite-Mega: 211-249 (106.5 - 125.7%) -- guaranteed OHKOJust using gatr as an example here but if he can do it then just about anything between 150+ and a good ability with a boost can, so I assume the same applies to Gardevoir or a different mega dragon.
>>59224616>they're not adding champions stuff to natdexUh oh, looks like some trannies really like their meta and don't want it to change for anything. Tale as old as Gen 2
>>59225859>>59225864I literally said that. Unless I didn't, but I was hard stuck at 4....until this team. Thus me asking for help XD>>59225848>>59225870Ice cream beats froslass because it's not weak to sucker punch, it beats ninetales because it's not weak to poison or 4x weak to steel!
>>59225835I love 1 shotting dragonites through multiscale with ampharos and mold breaker
>>59225885If anyone wants to be retarded with me
>>59224666>longterm consistency wins outNice try Satan, but a rock-type spread move with a 30% chance to flinch being used by a pokemon moving before you will prove more consistent than whatever shit you're doing that this is happening to you.
What does it mean if you're hardstuck at Ultra?
>>59225900You're a normal person who doesn't have the chronic autism necessary to overthink 10 steps ahead of your opponent and stress yourself out. Seriously, just look at Wolfe and how he plays. Tell me that cheater is having fun. He's not.
>>59225896Until you play a guy who remembers wide guard exists
>>59224668>its literally freeNot if you aren't a nintendrone (playing on shitdown doesn't count)
>>59225900time to start taking estrogen