I preset to you the worst Pokemon games ever made.
>>59231187That's not gen 8
>another day>another illiterate monkey proves why we shouldn't take her seriously
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>>59231187Base diamond and pearl are worse
Haven't played 'em, but I do think it's very funny that they had a fully animated cutscene of a character singing to a track without lyrics
>>59231214peak retardation but everything Rose was even worse
>>59231214I don't want human voices in my children's game of Pokémon.
>>59231187I didn't play them.But I think Paldea looks worse because o the fucked up fugly empty "open world". At least this was linear.Ugly trees though LOOOOOOOL! Ugly trees haha!!!And you have to wear the humiliation ritual suit every time you use your bike!
Modern Pokémon games feel like free to play Itch.io shitpost games.
Has anyone on here ever met someone who believes these to be top 3 Pokémon?
>>59231187This but Scarlet and Violet
you clearly never played rumble or pinball or mystery dungeon
>>59231419Fake fanThose are genuinely great games
>>59231433lollmao even
>>59231187No
>>59231438Good argument
>>59231442not your highschool debate club
>>59231187just because it's the worst to you doesn't mean it's not the worst to everyone. I actually really enjoyed sword and shield c:>>59231419I will not stand for pokemon pinball slander, that shit is the goat.
>>59231266>But I think Paldea looks worse because o the fucked up fugly empty "open world"Paldea is complicated to me because on the one hand it is pretty ugly.On the other hand: It's based on Spain. Not sure what I expected.
>>59231355Scarlet and Violet has good ideas but is ruined by feeling genuinly fucking amateurish. Sword and Shield is fine but has almost no good ideas.
>>59231352My 11 year old cousin, Marcus
Rose had to be a mistranslation, right? They didn't actually make him that retarded in the japanese version, right?
>>59231193Anon..
>>59231478SV was sooooo boring to explore, one of the most boring Open World games Ive ever played
>>59231477Geg, made me laugh out loud!
They actually did Rose right... back in gen 1 with Giovani, how the fuck did they screw up so hard?
>>59231591I liked hunting for pokemon. Just wish trainer battles were less pathetic.
>>59231187This was the only pokemon game that I personally just put down and never finished after starting. That alone makes me rank it as the worst game. I actually enjoyed catching stuff the first time I got to the wild area though, so it wasn't like I hated every second of the time that I played.
>>59231591I kind of want to give the map a pass. Yes, it was terrible to explore, but it's very existence let the game be less linear.
>>59231187The good parts of Sword and Shield; A small amount of new pokemon, maybe. Marnie was cute and her brother was alright as a character. Klara was great and the DLC for it were fun enough. What else... it looked okay and ran okay. The bad part? Everything else and every other character too. Jesus christ it has a lot of bad shit in it. SV ran extremely bad, but is otherwise better in just about all aspects.
I'm not going to read this thread so I can avoid spoilers, but I want to post so I can contribute what I think of it so far with fresh eyes. I actually just started Pokemon Shield recently, it's definitely a different kind of Pokemon game. Last pokemon game I played was Pokemon Y, which was pretty traditional in its formula. I skipped Sun and Moon.I just beat the first gym leader; Milo (the grass gym leader) and thought it was super cool Dynamaxing in his stadium (genuinely). The vibes with the music, the crowd cheering us on, and the auras of our gigantic pokemon was spot on. They really made it a grand spectacle and I'm excited to see what future Dynamax battles are like. I liked it. I like how they explain traditional gym puzzles as "Gym Missions" you must overcome to challenge the Gym Leader, it just makes it all more grounded and realistic. New grass mechanics are cool for the wild encounters with pokemon, it's a mixture of old and new with how you see some pokemon walking around but some pokemon can only be found randomly in grass. I like the Wild Area I've been to so far, I liked there were high level pokemon that I had to stay clear of. The only complaint I have about the game is that it feels oppressively story heavy (so far, at least). Hop or Sonia are around every corner.I'm enjoying myself.
>>59231187It was alright at best, it just tried a little too hard to be different and stand out
>>59231193fpbp
>>59231193Yes it is
>>59231658>but it's very existence let the game be less linear.>no level scaling>linearPick one. The game still wants you to go in a specific order, anon. The game touts itself as an open word to explore but there is a severe lack of depth, no dungeons, no secrets aside from a mind numbing stake hunt. Even without the bugs and better frames form the S2, it doesn't excuse the barebones frame of the world itself. I cannot believe the defenses I've been seeing lately for these games
>>59231695My 5 y/o likes it better than SwSh, about equal to LGPE.
>>59231695Nta: But I think the general formula has potential. The actual map leaves a lot to be desired. It's borderline amateurish. Compare it to something like Elden Ring or Morrowind which are much more thoughtful in their content.The biggest problem I have is how easy it is to get rare Pokemon even before you realize how food buffs work. Pseudo legendaries are just... around. The only two things worth finding are stakes and terra Pokemon. Possibly coins as well.
>>59231187The only games I played that I couldn’t finish because they sucked so bad.SwSh is fun and a straight masterpiece compared to SuMo
>>59231695>I'm dogshit at the game and can't beat a gym leader 5 levels higher than me so that means the game wants me to go in a specific order>I want depth but I also want to be able to mindlessly mash A in any direction with everything being the exact same difficulty the whole game
>>59231707I think Winds and Waves has the potential to have more explorable areas with more meat in its world and islands, and it will for sure run better on a better system at launchBut SV was clearly the beta that concept that everyone paid full price on + tip
>>59231744>resorting to jack for a shitty retort>I'm dogshit at the game and can't beat a gym leader 5 levels higher than me so that means the game wants me to go in a specific orderNo faggot, I want to challenge ANY gym leader in any order so I can choose to mix up my experience. Player choice should be a thing in an open world game, and especially something in a game where it's marketing loudly says and promotes freedom>I want depth but I also want to be able to mindlessly mash A in any direction with everything being the exact same difficulty the whole gameDid you miss the part where I mentioned level scaling? Something that better open world games do? lol Fucking retard
>>59231714I liked SM's story and setting more desu
>>59231768>No faggot, I want to challenge ANY gym leader in any order so I can choose to mix up my experienceThe game already lets you do that. What you're actually asking for is for no mixed experience and for every playthrough to be effectively exactly the fucking same because everything has the same sludge difficulty the whole game.>Something that better open world games do?Every single good open world game in existence doesn't have level scaling, retard.
>>59231419you have dash right there as an option and you go for these instead?bro does not play the games
>>59231773>The game already lets you do thatIt does you're right, my mistake. But it ALSO actively punishes you for doing so. Which is flawed gameplay design 100%. My point was that every single bit of marketing and in game dialogue actively tells you to explore and complete anything in any order you wish. When you just fucking...cant? How the fuck do you defend that so hard, you dense cunt lmao
>>59231773>hurrrrrr what you're asking for is what I am asking for because I said soNot him but you are a blubbering retard with zero points made
>>59231419>you clearly never played mystery dungeonBASED!!!FURFAGS BTFO!!!!!!!!!Truly the worst Pokémon games ever made! Only furfag sex freaks who want to be transformed into animals to rape other animals like those games!!! The gameplay SUCKS!!!The Mystery Dungeon games make shit like gen 8 and 9 look like 10/10 masterpieces in compairson.But what else would you expect from furfag developers. They probably spent more time gangbanging a Vaporeon plushie than actually working on their shit game.
>>59231773>Every single good open world game in existence doesn't have level scaling,Name three (3) actual good open world games without it
>>59231789>it punishes me because I might actually fight something difficult>>59231810Name one (1) actual good open world game with it
>>59231815>Name one (1) actual good open world game with itThe Elder Scrolls Daggerfall
>>59231355/thread SV fucking sucks
>>59231821He said good game
>>59231815>it punishes me because I might actually fight something difficultYou're a fucking retard for missing the point this hard. >>59231815>Name one (1) actual good open world game with it>literally n-no you!
>>59231831You are a Vaporeon and got raped by Mega Sceptile.
>>59231815>it punishes me because I might actually fight something difficult>goes to Ice gym>encounters level 40+ with a handful of level 10's and 15's >fair>game says it has freedom>doesn't????????????This has got to be the gayest bait of all time
>>59231845>the game is doesn't have freedom because it has difficult parts
>>59231845>>59231852It's not true freedom because areas are still leveled and intended to be done in a very specific order, but it's funny if you can beat an enemy 20 levels above you because the game is fucking easy and then come back to the early areas you skipped when you are LV 50 and just crush them.So that's one good thing. Shame the rest of the game is fucking shit though.
>>59231861>it's not true freedom because I invented a fanfic that I'm intended to go in a specific order even though the game explicitly tells me I can do anything in any order
>>59231868If you don't follow the very specific order outlayed, you will spend 50% of the game overleveled just breezing through with no tactics and 50% of the game underleveled getting oneshot by enemies 20 levels above you and overall it becomes even more of a shitshow than it already was.
>>59231861for me it was focus sash salt cure to clear all the titans before doing gyms or star raids so I can get full mobility on my koraidon wife
>>59231876>B-BUT THERE ARE EASY PARTS!! AND THERE ARE DIFFICULT PARTS!!!Yes anon that's typically how well designed video games work
>>59231878>It's supposed to be different difficulty partsFunny cope.
every single person I've seen who bitches about SV's lack of level scaling or Johto's level curve, is without fail, someone who's utter dogshit at pokemon games
>>59231193yeah it’s probably gen 7 alongside it
>>59231194there are no women on this website retard. just men and trannies pretending to be women
>>59231591it puts me in mind of Elden Ring>traveling along looking for all those damn trainers>see item on a ledge>detour to grab it>burn healthey want to reward exploration but not with any actual rewards so they just throw garbage everywhere and hope the player is a magpie
>>59231187Galar>Handcrafted routes>Linear region>Runs poorly but not like utter shit>"Evil team" is a bunch of dumb hooligans>Too easyPaldea>Empty wasteland of copy paste assets and Pokémon aimlessly roaming>Looks like an itch.io shitpost game>Runs worse than an itch.io shitpost game made by one retard in Unity>Faux open world>5 meters render distance>"Evil team" is a bunch of dumb hooligans with an awful fashion sense I could beat up irl>Too easyBoth are shit though.
>>59231902This!! also the way they just plopped Pokemon all over the map with no rhyme or reason
>>59231187this isn't the diamond and pearl remake
SV is basically free itch.io shitpost game in anything but length and quantity of content.
>>59231773most open world games aren't turn based rpgs
>>59231187you can get golduck or grumpig with simple beam. Thats it
>>59231902Elden Ring works because souls and levels means all content is worth playing. Even if the actual weapon isn't viable for your build, it's still worth the effort. The closest equivalent of that in Pokemon (EXP) doesn't work because 1: The game is piss easy. 2: The easiest way to grind is to do raids.
Maybe the worst from the intentional design standpoint, but I think DP beats it out on both design and performance issues combined. Maybe you can make arguments for BDSP unbalancing the barely balanced design of DP, or SV being borderline experimental and ass on the original Switch, or Gen 1 just never working correct in battle like at all, but the play experience of DP and SS just aren't worth putting up with them (and Platinum barely resolves it with some improvements and hanging a carrot on a stick that's in a way better game anyway). It doesn't help that SS's DLC doesn't improve the base game, and it's not great outside of what the Regi puzzles? Maybe raids that are now in the marginally better SV? Maybe when Switch online is fucking dead LAN raids will be the lasting legacy of the Switch Pokemon games but as it stands there's no good reason to play it at all. At least DP/Platinum and XY got their lunch money stolen by better games, SS has zero reason to play it at all.
>>59231754>Was clearly the betaIt was a beta, period. Not even of a different game, but itself. This thing has the feel of "Oh god, we have to throw something together and we are running out of time". What worries me is mostly the intentional design. Winds and Waves can be a massive technical improvement but if it's still as incredibly patronizingly easy as SV it's a pointless improvement. I'm basically praying for a hard mode, but I know deep down in my heart it will never happen.
>>59231810>Name three (3) actual good open world games without itNTA: But depends on how you define it. Most people like Skyrim, the likes of GTA has no level scaling because it has no levels, and there are even some weird creatures out there who like Oblivion.
>>59231193first post beginning post
>>59231885Anybody who complains about SV being hard should genuinly be send to some kind of camp. The game is embarrassingly easy. The tools the game gives you to solve problems are akin to giving a fully automatic machine gun to remove a disobedient toddler. Terralizing doesn't so much break the game as much as bend it in two. There are numerous Pokemon that can solo the entire game, including all of the starters. Every single trainer in the game is a jobber with only 3 Pokemon.
>>59231944Elden ring had a semi linear structure. You couldn't just go from Limgrave at the start straight to the mountain of Giants but you had to do the major dungeons in between.Also levels in Elden Righ mean a lot less than in Pokémon. A skilled player can beat these games SL 1 with a whip if you are good enough and conversely you can totally get rekt by enemies far below your level if you suck enough.I personally still didn't like the "open world" in Elden Ring because it felt empty and like padding between the content I actually cared about. But overall it was a lot more well designed than SV, especially since player skill > level and gear in Souls games.
>>59231945>but I think DP beats it out on both design and performance issues combined.I'm very biased in favor of DP, but I will say that having played all of the games I think a lot about DP works and I will give it infinite credit for finally unfucking the physical special split and having one of the more solid world designs. It is a pretty big step down in actual challenge compared to Ruby and Sapphire though and is filled with actual genuine baffling design decisions that rival gen 1 and 2.With that said though, having played all of them, gen 2 is the worst and it's not even close. It's all of the worst aspects of Gen 1, but somehow adds plenty of new problems. Scarlet and Violet meanwhile just feel downright amateurish, like a fangame that got out of hand. But I can't in all good consciousness call it worse than gen 2.
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>>59231975HAHAHAHAHAHAHASHAHA!!! IT'S THE UGLY TREE!!!THAT'S FUNNEEEEEEEE!!!! XDLOLROFLMAOKEK
>>59231963>You couldn't just go from Limgrave at the start straight to the mountain of Giants but you had to do the major dungeons in between.It's more free than you think insofar that you only need two souls. You can skip most of the content if you really want to. The game just doesn't really give you a reason to do so. >Also levels in Elden Righ mean a lot less than in PokémonIt depends very much on your build. The right build can basically just overpower 99% of the problems in the game through sheer stat increases. >I personally still didn't like the "open world" in Elden Ring because it felt empty and like padding between the content I actually cared about. I liked it because it generally encouraged you to go off and explore rather than just bash your head against a problem (Which is typically the worst way to play Souls games) over and over again. But then I also enjoyed a lot of the minor caves, so mweh.
>>59231980Hi Joe! Still mindbroken, huh?
>>59231352there's some fag here who says they're among the greatest RPGs ever made
>>59231975>Fuck you, Pokémon fans. I am the ugly tree. You will never get a serious, good Pokémon game ever again. All new Pokémon games will be ugly, bottom of the barrel slop with ugly trees like me. Cope, Pokémon fans.
>>59231989There are some fags who think FF7 is a great RPG. No accounting for bad taste and frankly being a fanboy for modern Pokemon is less cringy than being a fanboy for Bethesda or the Witcher people.
>>59231754>SV was clearly the beta that concept that everyone paid full price on + tipthat's been the case since SM at least. It's been going for 10 years, I won't trust these niggers anymore.
>>59232000>SMKeep your kinks out of this, dumb faggot.
>>59232000>Since SMRed and Green.Unironically.
>>59231989hiiii! that's me!! :3
>>59232052>:3Dumb furfag
>>59232057calling me a furfag is like calling a /vp/ user autisticthat's just common knowledge, anon.
>>59232074>:3 c==============8Take that, dumb furfag!
>>59231187Those aren't SV
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