why isn't Blastoise more popular?
>>59235556She's a fat obese bear with cat ears
>>59235556Charizard is the defacto popular one, so Red > Blue off the bat, Venusaur has become the outcast and popular because of that, especially with the discovery of a Green ver. by foreigners over the years being the original, and further helped by Leaf Green rather than Water Blue, Blastoise/Blue by extension have just fallen off.
How much more popular can you fucking get dude don't be greedy.
The kids who chose Blastoise were balanced individuals who grew out of video games and ended up being normies with families and jobs.
>>59235567>She'sbased>a fat based>obesebased >bearbased>with cat earsBASED
>>59235556There are a bajillion water types you run across in every game. Blastoise really don't stand out against any of them, even back on gen 1 days. He had his super obese sprite originally, which was unique for the time, but his redesign shortly after killed any personality he had.
>59235567>she
>>59235568ThisCharizard is the cool oneVenusaur gets the contrarian/pity vote.Blastoise is the boring middle one. Not helping is Blastoise has come to be defined by pretty mediocre stats and performance, while Charizard has always had bellyzard for hype even before two good megas, and Venusaur has always had Leech Seed insomnia cure sets.
>>59235556That's such badass boxart. She's literally pointing a gun at little kids.
>>59235783ThisIt isn't an uncommon pitfall for starters, but Blastoise is perhaps the single worst case of its only notable feature being that you get it at the start of the game. Water is extra susceptible to this in general, because slapping Surf on a Golduck or whatever is dangerously close to whatever most other water types can do.Fire is probably in the best position here, because the average fire type is really fucking bad, so the fire starters have a certain quality assurance that shit like Slugma, Ponyta, or Numel can't match the same way.
>>59235556>why isn't Blastoise more popular?It's a lazy cartoon animal with muh heckin awesomesauce cannons slapped onto it in what is easily the most no-effort attempt at pandering to an audience of young boys in its whole dexit's the first digimon in the seriesit ruins the actually interesting and lovable preevo of wartortle in the same way dragonite ruins dragonairblasturd is easily the worst and rightfully least popular kanto starter and that has consistently been proven and acknowledged since day 1the only people who should be fans of it are the ones who had to wear sound-cancelling headphones and helmets growing up
>>59235578>blastoise's fans are the most tasteless and careless individuals in the franchise's orbitcompletely checks out
>>59236379Actually Venusaur is consistently the least popular kanto starter
>>59235556Most people have shit taste. Take reassurance in being in the minority.>>59235568>>59235838>Charizard is cool>Doesn't have fucking shoulder cannons
>>59236388that poll was 3 months agocontinue to cope
>>59235556Water starters have a bigger hurdle. Fire starters barely need to try and grass starters just need Leech Seed but Water starters are directly competing with dozens of actually good water types
>>59236388https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_of_the_YearIt didn't even get least popular Kanto starter two years in a row. Yeah, the second year was Japan only which skews things somewhat, as Venusaur is the standard cover Pokemon alongside Reptilicus. But even then that just proves it's not even consistent.
>>59235556Blastoise has always been more popular than Venushit IRL. It's just that Venusfags are the original owlfags in that they'll obsessively bot polls and manufacture consensus on the internet to pretend otherwise, while Blastoisechads are secure enough to not have to do that.
>>59236391that poll is shithere's one that mattershttps://pokemon2020.pokemon.com/en-us/also bulbasaur isn't venusaur, doesn't count
>>59235838Venusaur won the long game while GF burned their bridges with Charizard pandering in SwSh to a degree it should've never gotten to. Blastoise has basically become the defacto Rival mon because of how much the franchise emphasizes starting with Bulbasaur or Charmander in most supplementary media. You NEVER EVER see Red with a Squirtle. Doesn't help Masuda's Water Boner helped fucking bury it with better starters in the future like Feraligatr (even its Mega mogs Blastoise's Mega Launcher meme set), Swampert (the actual fan favorite) or even Empoleon (just good overall)Meanwhile Venusaur's successors were Mono-Grass until Toreterra and Charizard's got a pass because Masuda half-assed Fire options for over a decade>>59235853Which is kinda repeating what this guy said. I'll add that for like 99% of the franchise, there's no reason to run Blastoise over a Gyarados or the free Lapras you get from Silph Co. to MAKE SURE you can use Surf to get to Cinnabar. Blastoise is the best for speedrunning because you don't need to train a Surfmon, but that's really is ONLY benefit compared to the other twoBlue's Blastoise in the final battle is also the hardest Starter to fight because it gets Blizzard so it's the most fun
>>59236391Just because people like Bulbasaur doesn't mean they like the ugly, disgusting troll design it turns into at the end.
>>59236417I've never seen a setup like this for Venusaurthis is anecdotal proof that people literally do talk down on Blasturd openly irl
>>59236427The reason to run Blastoise would be that it's cooler than its competitionHowever, that isn't the case—it looks like shit
>>59236428I like it
>>59236433Is that a TikTok video or something? Exhibit A of Venushitters having to manufacture consensus on the internet.
charizard is a godpokemon red is the passion of his ascensionpick not the blasphemyoise
literally my favorite of all time, fuck your own face OP
>>59236448Bodied that freak
>>59236438>The reason to run Blastoise would be that it's cooler than its competitionExactly, which is why normal, well-adjusted people bought Blue and picked Squirtle.
>started with Yellow>missed out on what starter I would have pickedSisters...
>>59236417Yeah, pretty muchVenusaur has seen nonstop shilling, arguing, and narrative correction for almost 30 years.Both Charizard and Blastoise have relatively normal fans that stopped giving a shit when they turned 14. I was there. Anyone else who was can confirm. Bulbasaur was the least popular starter of the three by a mile. The argument was never about Venasaur, it was Charizard vs Blastoise. Hell, I remember people liking Chikorita more than Bulbasaur.
Charizard is challenge modeVenusaur is easy modeBlastoise is normal, and therefore doesn't any attract extremes
>>59236549Don't look up who the preferred starter for speedtrooning is
>>59236538>Charizard fans>normalLet's not kid ourselves. Charizard fags were the slightly more functional spergs compared to the helmet-wearing, paste-eating Venushitters, but they were and are still spergs nonetheless.
>>59236458In a way, I envy you.You have eyes unclouded by nostalgia. You had an irredeemable shitheap pressed into your party that nobody could defend, and don't have any pre existing affinity for one starter or another
>>59236551>Picked up to be dumped after a few minutes for Nidoking and stuffed with SurfTruly a noble creature
>>59236538>The argument was never about Venasaur, it was Charizard vs BlastoiseTrue, it was always just about these two and Venasaurfags have been bitter for 30 years for being the odd one out
>>59236619He will however never know the pride of being able to state that he had never picked Squirtle.
>>59236549>Venusaur is easy modeBulbasaur struggles against the army of flying, poison, and grass types in gen1 Still a great mon, and that leech seed/toxic combo goes hard in solo play. It's just not as easy mode as other things out there
>>59235853You’re right about water starters.Fire starters have the issue of flying doing a lot of what fire can, and good birds are common. You might even have one on the first route. Grass is the worst type-wise, but for me the issue is that grass is defined by stuff like leech seed and status spores, and a fair amount of grass starters just don’t have those.
>>59236672YeahPlus those strategies are largely just time wasters in single player
>>59236458I've got a weird origin story aswell>Get blue version as a kid>pick bulbasaur>Get all the way to misty>while I was at a friend's house, mom lets my brother play the game because he didn't have one for himself>come back home, save file is gone cause he clicked new game.>cry profusely>eventually overcome my traumatic experience and start another game >pick Squirtle this timeThat first run quickly faded from memory and Blastoise became my bro for life, but I still think about it from time to time. What would have happened if that game never got deleted? Would I favor Blastoise anyway like I do now or would Venusaur be my favorite? Would the different set of experiences in that first formative playthrough mean my entire taste in pokemon would be different? An entire alternate set of stories and sentimental attachements I'll never know about, all changed with the accidental click of a button by a 5 year old.Somewhere out there in the cosmos is another me from an alternate timeline where that Bulbasaur survived, and he's just as disappointed in the design of mega venusaur as I am in mega blastoise.
Maybe because Gamefreak hates it.>Calling the gen 1 protagonist """red""" implies you weren't supposed to choose blue version nor Squirtle>We didn't see Ash's Squirtle evolve through the entirety of the Ashime>Constantly compared to Venusaur because nobody cares about them and it's all about Charizard>Has one less mega than Charizard, had to wait to get a mega, and had to wait to join pokemon unite
>>59235826The only thing girly about Blastoise is you can argue the colored jaw looks like lipstick. Which is one reason I think Samurott is the manliest pokemon.
>>59236906>Constantly compared to VenusaurExcept that's almost entirely one-sided, it's all Venusaurfags lashing out and trying to drag Chadstoise down to their level to make their shitmon look better. It's the type of discourse they can only get away with online, as anyone normal would look at them like they had eight heads if they tried to preach the superiority of Venusaur IRL.
>>59236906>Maybe because Gamefreak hates itMaybe they do. Yet they still respect it more than the majority of starters. The Kanto Shield is amazing > had to wait to join pokemon uniteI don’t think Game Freak has anything to do with Unite
>>59235556??? It's banned in Smogon right now
>>59236906*had to wait to get a gigantamax
>>59235556
>527>2nd...>378>3rd...........
>>59236973Reminder that going by actual results Venusaur is last on that reddit pollhttps://pastebin.com/rFq663H7Charizard: 69 248Blastoise: 20 89Venusaur: 9 61
>>59235556Because its a fat deroy tortoise competing a fire breathing flying dragon
>>59235838This lol
>>59235556His stupid hippo mouth.
>>59236888>and he's just as disappointed in the design of mega venusaur as I am in mega blastoise.turns out your taste was always destined to be shit
Blastoisefags are like the rillaboomers of gen 1
>>59237281brutal trvke
>>59235567fpbp
>>59236564The difference is the 'Zardfags retained their higher functioning capabilities as they aged, the venusharts only devolved deeper into the mental soup to visit the blastards playing at the lower end the IQ scale.
>>59236963>one hundred and ninety-three people responded>this somehow proves the entirety of the world familiar with Pokémon cares about a walking shitplant
>>59237281>obsessed with popularity, it's literally the only thing they talk about>has a dozen popularity polls or merch sale stats ready for any conversation>perpetually bitter and petty over the other members of their starter trio holy shit bulbafags are the catfags of gen 1
>>59237703No, they're the owlfags of gen 1. They fake their "popularity" online and have a massive persecution complex about it, but in the end their fave is still an ugly shitmon that ruined its evolution line.
>>59237281Winners, patricians and chads? Yes, you're right.
>>59237725>Winners, patricians and chads?More like obese and homosexuals lmao
>>59235567fpwp
>>59237476>"I'm a disingenuous retard who pretends I only see one out of the many polls already posted proving what I fear"
>>59237703>holy shit bulbafags are the catfags of gen 1nope
>>59237998This poll showed how contrarian /vp/ really is, even moreso than fucking Reddit lmfao
>>59237998>/vp/ pollGarbage >>59238009 This
>>59238009>>59238032those results are largely consistent with the reddit poll: >>59236973rather it's where you learned the uncomfortable truth that your taste is actually in the minority
blastoise was my first favorite pokemon when I saw the blue boxartit stopped being my favorite pokemon when I got it in game
>>59236455>Exactly, which is why normal, well-adjusted people bought Blue and picked Squir—https://youtube.com/watch?v=r6rrXwt_ndM
>>59236906GameFreak's favorite is the Venusaur line. And as we're finding out, so is it the actual core fanbase's favorite as well.They push Charilard due to a vocal minority of autists clamoring for it.Nobody, not them or the fans, like Blasturd, so they don't bother wasting energy trying to shill it.
>>59238042Again, going by the actual results of said reddit poll:>>59237075Meowscarada: 6 55Skeledirge: 3 38Quaquaval: 0 10So, ironically, your reddit poll shows that you are in the minority.Basically, you're a contrarian retard.
>>59235556Mono water.
>>59236619>You had an irredeemable shitheap pressed into your party that nobody could defendFUCK OFF.PIKACHU is my DAY 1 HOMIE.You're just BAD at POKÉMON
>>59235556>Only Kanto Starter to be Planet-sized.Yeah, why isn't it more popular?
>>59238319VenuGOAT
>>59235556it's a boring design that both ruins its line but doesn't fit in with the consistent design trends of the other 8 stages in the starter lineupit's bad in all regards
>constantly getting redesigned whenever it appears in something new because the design doesn't workBlastoise is measurably objectively the worst Pokemon of all time. Other Pokemon have received permanent redesigns, but nothing else is consistently being changed and deformed the way Blastoise is. Pokken is the most blatant example, but it happens all the time and even Blastoisefags themselves are constantly complaining about how it looks and how the design is "being ruined" whenever it takes on a new appearance.
>>59238319There you have it. Charizard and Venusaur are the shillmons, Blastoise is the people's organic favorite.
>>59235567>>59236911Blastoise is a hot dyke butch.
>>59235556They ruined Blastoise design. The old one with the rounded shell hatches was best. They also forgot that blastoise is supposed to stand on all fours when it uses hydro pump, so now it has permanent goofy ass posture.
>>59239211>can't decided if it's on all fours or standingIsn't this bullshit why Skeledirge and Samurott are dogshit designs?
>>59239234It would go on all fours when it fired the cannons not all the time.
>>59239243>it would stand up to sing/draw it's sword, not all the time
Because charmander that's why
>>59239005Why are gays so cringe
>>59239234>Skeledirge and Samurott are dogshit designsvirtually nobody thinks this
>>59239248a quadraped animal using a sword is a bit different than a turtle firing cannons on its back on all fours like a tank you fucking retard
>he still uses starters
>>59235556Terrible model they used in Gen 6-8. Weirdly wide, small arms, small cannons. Truly awful.It can look fine in some cases like this toy, where the limbs aren't microscopic compared to the shell.
>>59236906>>Calling the gen 1 protagonist """red""" implies you weren't supposed to choose blue version nor Squirtleif you play blue version your name is blue and the rival's name is red
>>59239401or it was a companies first game that they didnt think would explode into the worlds largest franchise that can buy apple and have enough leftover for half of disney and lots of oddities exist because of it
>>59235556He beats CHARIZARD in a fight so he will forever be tormented by the fansom
>>59239470are there any other starter pokemon that can beat CHARIZARD in a 1v1?
>>592393151. not gay.2. straightoids post porn literally all day and its usually rape, pedophilia, cuckolding, raceplay or something adjecent>t-thats the jews!ok... 3. jews make straight porn for straightoids, and its usually rape, fart, pedo, beastiality or cuck.
>>59237084>ZARDfag had a stroke while typingKek
>>59239543Roggenrola
>>59235556i wonder the very same thing every day
>>59239550This is the worst faggot cope I've seen in a while
>>59239594he says on his child hentai animal fucker board, on his porn and politics site.the world is BUILT upon preying upon sexual and romantic urges, and 99% of the world is straight. dont play dumb.
>>59239543the best fire starter in the series's history
>>59239695But enough about Incineroar.
>>59239699completely irrelevant
>>59239699LOL
>>59239781what the fuck
>>59239543Ash's Pikachu can and has
