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>Hoenn and Galar are the only starters missing in Champions
Any chance the reason why they are oddly missing from Champions is because GameFreak is rebalancing them?
How would you rebalance them, if at all?
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>>59235700
they are "new content"
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>>59235700
either they're balancing them or giving them new stuff or
>>59235749
what this anon said and they're just Live Service "new content"
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they're all getting Z megas
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>>59235700
they intentionally left all of the terrain setters out of the game so the meta can shake up once they're added
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Hoenn starter trio was so fucking PERFECT, my god.
How did they get it so right
>All 1st stages look cute and memorable
>Their final stages encapsulate perfectly the vibe of the region
>Sceptile being covered in trees and bulbs, symbolizing Hoenn's lush and untamed subtropical vegetation
>Swampert symbolizing the wet marshland side
>Blaziken symbolizing martial arts rooted into Hoenn's culture (Brawly, Makuhita, Meditite, all the karate people, the new moves like Focus Punch etc.), while also making a clever use of the species since it's based on cockfighting that literally happens (or used to happen idk) in those places
Plus they all look like cool monsters instead of furrysuit jobmons
It was peak
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>>59235700
letting the shiny new toys have fun, with the current Weather Wars, M-Swamp would be vile. Dude's got pivoting now meaning even in bad match-ups it could still take a chunk on the way out
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>>59235836
Ehhh they're just alright
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>>59235836
Based HOENN starter enjoyer.
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Whoever kept making Sceptile get fatter needed to be fired
>>59235862
If they allowed Gastrodon in at the same time it would have been fine.
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>>59235700
>How would you rebalance them, if at all?
Sceptile gets belly drum. Swampert gets stamina and shore up
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>>59235700
Smash bros skipped them too
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>>59235700
>Sceptile
Swap its attack and special attack stats and replace Unburden with Sharpness. Add Nasty Plot and Draco Meteor to its movepool so Mega Sceptile is more viable
>Swampert
Replace Damp with Regenerator and add Headlong Rush to its movepool but remove Flip Turn. The ability change would probably rape Smogon to death but I think it'd be really funny.
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>>59236212
>Draco Meteor
never gonna happen lmao
>regenerator
LMAO
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>>59236212
That Swampert sounds like an asshole, these are going to be OU above Blaziken ffs
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>>59235836
/thread
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>>59235700
For Sceptile, swap Unburden for one of these two:
>Physical moves use the Special Attack stat in damage calculations (Still physical though)
>Slicing moves hit twice, with the second hit at 50% power (Pre-nerf Parental Bond)
One allows Sceptile to use its great physical movepool, the other is just very thematic.
I do not see GameFreak ever adjusting Sceptile's stats unfortunately.
Not sure which would be best for Sceptile, assuming no other changes.
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>>59235700
Nothing is going to get rebalancing, they're just another carrot to put on the stick in a couple months.
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>>59235700
>Rebalance
M-Swamp and M-Blaziken are already good and need nothing new,
Mega Sceptile, Regenerator. Lightning Rod doesn't even make thematic sense, the big thing about the tail it its regenerative capabilities. Overgrow, Torrent, and Blaze should also get buffs. Let them also provide a 2x STAB boost for their respective typing on top of the in-peril boost. Also let it learn Draco Meteor, all it has is Dragon Pulse when it is supposed to be a special attacker
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>>59236265
Only if base sceptile get retconed as a dragon type, so never
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>>59236265
They need to lift that fucking restriction
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>just dump unburden for sharpness and add like 50 moves and and and
fuck you, keeping unburden and giving it belly drum would do so much more for base sceptile than any other suggestion I've seen
120 speed ain't what it used to be but with an unburden boost it's incredible, and base 85 attack is pretty paltry on its own but it's downright solid at +6 with sceptile's physical movepool
mega sceptile, on the other hand does need some major help to stay competitive with other megas, and given that audino still has healer and steelix still has sand force (to say nothing of all the dogshit new megas), I don't think help is on the way
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>>59235700
>How would you rebalance them, if at all?
I would give Swampert a ability that is actually worth something.

>>59235836
I prefer gen 4 but they are REALLY fucking good. Honestly didn't appreciate them fully until I replayed the games.
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>>59235836
>they all look like cool monsters instead of furrysuit jobmons
Blaziken is a fucking man in a chicken costume
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Hoenn Starters have Megas so they can be dripfed later. Galar starters have G-Maxxes for when they start adding the other gimmicks or if Legends Galar ends up dropping.
It's all about the dripfeed
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>>59239845
Still not the same
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>>59239974
Blaziken's proportions are very human-like. Do you enjoy living in the great state of denial?
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>>59235700
It's because the Hoenn starters have Megas and they're going to add them to shake up a future format, and AFAIK there aren't any terrain setters in the game right now so they can't have Rillaboom, he'll probably get added at the same time they add the Tapus.
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>>59238106
giving it that tail move that smogon is scared to death of on top of regenerator, that would be the funniest shit.
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>>59240022
Sceptile already has Shed Tail.
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>>59240046
so then you're saying all it needs is Regenerator
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>>59235836
Based
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Not necessarily for pvp balance, but just things that seem fitting imo
>sceptile: regenerator. Steel beam but grass, possibly mated with takeout
>blaziken: competitive
>swampert: dry skin or swift swim
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>>59240620
>mated with fakeout*
As a signature move. The idea being it launches its tail.
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>>59239845
>Blaziken is a fucking man in a chicken costume
And godzilla is a man in a dinosaur suit
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>>59239845
>Blaziken is a fucking man in a chicken costume
This, its hilarious how much Blazikeks cope over this Fact
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>>59240666
Well, satan. If you must know.
It doesn't come as some massive heartbreak or disappointment to them in the first place to hear you say this constantly.
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>>59240706
Man in a chicken suit
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>>59239974
Not racist but blaziken is just cooler then the frog.
>outside of Japan, I think they really like those kinds of designs there now
>>59240706
>>59240717
>Fiery kungpao chicken suit*
Ftfy, Plato.
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>>59239490
>fuck you, keeping unburden and giving it belly drum would do so much more for base sceptile than any other suggestion I've seen
>Sceptile used BDrum!
>Sceptile eats its Sitrus Berry and procs Unburden!
>Sneasel used Ice Shard
>Its super-effective! Sceptile fainted!
Yeah great buff.
I do agree though that slapping Sharpness alone would not be enough for it. And piling on new moves is really only suggested if the plan is to keep Sceptile a Special Attacker. You would actually need like 30 moves, no exaggeration, for its special movepool to have parity with its physical movepool.
Mega Sceptile they need to give it Armor Tail. There is an armored piece at the tip of its tail, and Champions homogenized a lot of Ability descriptions, that is good enough justification for me. 145 Speed that you cannot hit with priority moves like Ice Shard or even Fake Out sounds good to me.
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>>59239991
>>59239845
>>59240717
How many times have we been over this, you mongrels
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Sceptile being a physical attacker is all it needs
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>>59241067
LMFAO that looks nothing like Blaziken



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