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A thread for the creation and discussion of fan fiction and other fanworks - anything that involves a story and/or reading. What've you been reading? What've you been writing? What would you like to see more of?

>Thread question:
Whhich threadfic is your favorite, alternatively what threadfic do you like to slander the most, but make sure to remember the answer to both questions can be the same.

>Previous thread:
>>59221679
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Any good weight gain Liko or Roy story?
(Would you read one?)
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>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/o_Wb6Na6aVQ
> Ash : This is for all the pokemon you hurt
> Ash charge toward Spinel
> Umbreon step forward.
> Spinel : Stand down Umbreon, this kid is like 10 year old, What am I scar of a toddler? I don't need you to bloc...
> BAAAAM
> Spinel is slammed into the wall from Ash's punch.
> Spinel : AHHHHHHHHHHHH, WHAT THE HELL? WHY DO YOU PUNCH SO HARD? YOU LITERALLY AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENT! WHAT IS THIS? YOU FRACTURED MY HAND.FROM JUST ONE PUNCH ! GEEZ MAN, THAT NOT OKAY.

This would have been better conclusion to "Rising Again" arc instead off trying to victimize Spinel.. I wish I would use AI to draw this.
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>>59238681
No and no
>>59238700
Fuck off too
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really great thread start
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Are there any good Pokemon school fics, what with the Scarlet/Violet games or with Liko's anime? I, like many millennials, am obsessed with "going to school to learn how to be a wizard/superhero" plots
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>>59238671
How would you add them in your fic?
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>>59238671
>TQ
I don’t want to put thread writefags in a pissing contest against each other partially because I am one of them so I will instead list my favorite things about the threadfics I’ve read.
>In Mine Own
The characters will make you FEEL one way or the other. Celot is a very charismatic villain and it’s fun when he’s on screen. Aunt Vi is the GOAT, and Herri being perfectly awkward and mysterious is oddly endearing. I’m interested to see how Kuzey develops because he’s got a lot of room to do so. The battles are really uniquely done as well.
>PokeNormal
Haven’t finished it, but I love the dedication to such a niche story style. It has the children story vibe that kind of rhymes with The Princess Bride (stylistically at least). Lots mysteries and nostalgia means the tiniest little detail could be massive for shadowing at any time.
>Mahogany
The concept of the Pokemon egg groups with the genetics influencing their descendants down the line is a rabbit hole I’m not sure I’d ever got out of the concept stage. The potential surprising (and completely justified) moves in battles going forward could be really cool.
>Crazed Creation
As someone who likes to toy with tropes, this is taken to the utmost extreme and played with a surprising amount of whimsy considering the subject matter. There’s a lot of little humor for sprinkled throughout for anyone willing to really immerse themselves and give the story a chance to say what it’s trying to say.
I’ll eventually get to Crystal Light and Spice and Fox. No clue when though because Po Town is very demanding on my time.
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Can you forcefully give your Pokemon an ability that couldn't normally have? Like, covering your Pokemon with shit would give it Stench?
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>>59239012
Yeah, they're called ability capsules, but the method you're suggesting will just get you an angry pokemon covered in shit.
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>>59239085
i think he means getting a non-species ability... kinda like trace
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>>59239085
nah they love it
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>>59238780
I can't see in any way how a school setting can be beneficial for a story
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>>59238671
>TQ
Spice and Fox, and for slander Cuck and Fox. I love the fic but I will never stop slandering it because of that same reason.
Slander is a form of love, and I love Cuck and Fox.
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>>59239012
If your fic isn't serious then nothing's stopping you from running on gag logic or anime logic. But Abilities and Moves are kinda magical in nature; you can't recreate Soak just by blasting a pokemon with Water Gun or Rain.
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>>59238984
>Mahogany
>The concept of the Pokemon egg groups with the genetics influencing their descendants down the line is a rabbit hole I’m not sure I’d ever got out of the concept stage. The potential surprising (and completely justified) moves in battles going forward could be really cool.
I think a lot of hypothetical pokemon biology is more realistic than people think. Like in Hyphen trade evolutions are triggered by migration in the wild. While in real life we have creatures like locusts, who massively change their behavior and swarm when they get into large groups. So a pokemon's evolution being triggered by social condition, ot a release of hormones in the brain caused by high friendship or by becoming a mated pair isn't unreasonable.
Really I just love fantasy speculative biology, whatever it's called.
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Now that Likoanime is functionally "over", do you think it's general contents and ideas will see usage on fanfics? Or will they be mostly ignored and forgotten and used only by the minority?
I know I'm asking a question of which we know the answer already though. This has been happening ever since the SM anime started.
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>>59239665
IMO has discount version of the evil team from Likoanime but they're gayer and led by a woman who hates Pokemon.
But I think that's mostly coincidence and I never watched the Likoanime so Fabelgen is cooler.
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>>59239665
>This has been happening ever since the SM anime started.
Much earlier in my experience. DP is a hard cutoff point for anime stuff appearing in most fics, even Ashfics since they're usually focused on psuedo self insert shipping.
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>>59239688
XY stuffs appear plenty. BW does get ignored for obvious reasons, which are the same as with SM: they're a general downgrade from the game ideas and concepts and don't add anything new or interesting to the table. And then Shitneys came and raped the anime's corpse.
Nowadays you only see Ash self-inserters who jerk themselves off him being ***World Champion*** touching SM and Journeys in their stories.
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>>59239012
Entrainment and skill swap exist.
Just don't recall the pokemon and the ability should stay changed.
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>>59239709
The anime BE just feels so generic compared to Unova which felt very distinct as a region. Although some more of New York state over New York City if that makes sense, like just an extra costal town with a port somewhere on the map with some old now less wealthy former elite.
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>>59239709
I've never read a fic that used the anime's take on Team Flare or any of its more standout spinoff content like the time travel mansion. I've only seen the anime's interpretation of Serena, and even then only rarely.
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>>59239730
IMO does have game Serena, but we don't know anything about her so far except she's not the Champion, works for the Looker Bureau, and fucks Emma

And I've never watched the XY anime so I don't know what their Team Flare was like.
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>>59238671
Is Vaporeon objectively speaking REALLY the most compatible pokemon for human breeding? Discounting Ditto, of course.
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>>59239771
According to some people it's Sneasel, and to others it's Braxien. Some say Hisuiansians even marry Sawsbucks.
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>>59239665
You bet I'm gonna use the Rayquaza FRAUD allegations, other than that? Nah, it's boring as fuck just like the old anime and the "stakes" didn't feel as big as they were supposed to be, J alone is probably more evil than the Explorers or whatever its called

>>59239709
>Nowadays you only see Ash self-inserters who jerk themselves off him being ***World Champion*** touching SM and Journeys in their stories.
Huh? I haven't seen that at all, some Paldea stuff for sure but most tend to ignore that because in character Ash doesn't really give a shit about the title.

But then again I'm currently reading Naruto SI/OC slop nowadays so I can't comment on the Pokémon side
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>>59239114
Don't say things like that, anon. It triggers my 'oh yeah? bet I could do it' tendencies and I don't have time for another fic.
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>>59239114
Easy way to give your character a harem, why do you think isekai is full of The Academy™?
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>>59239723
>find an imprisoned regigas
>use skill swap on him
>free him
>use teleport to get out of the way of his rampage
>sit back and enjoy the destruction
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>>59238681
I'm only into weight gain as part of vore, and Roy and Liko don't do anything for me. Then again, give anyone a fat enough ass and I'll become a fan.
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>>59238984
>I don’t want to put thread writefags in a pissing contest against each other
This, none of them could out piss me
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>>59238385
Now tempted to kill Fuji in PokeNormal to have Ghost Fuji become a gag character.
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>>59239954
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>>59239939
Roy and Liko will have huge, huge asses.
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>>59237411
Reading this made me realize Fuji would still be part of the Mewtwo project in Mahogany. I was planning on it appear anyways although that's a long ways off...
I wonder if I can squeeze in a Silver Eyes reference, I already have a CL, Pokenormal, and Spice and Fox reference. Although like with the mentions of Giovanni there probably won't be another time for them to come up later, maybe I can edit in Alola being considered a shit hole alongside Hokubu.
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>>59239973
>I wonder if I can squeeze in a Silver Eyes reference
Go for it, I already did in PokeNormal
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Which MC is a big guy?
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>>59240032
William from Spice and Fox followed by Ian from PoPT who's tied with Tobio, then you have Rhys from Mahogany, who's then followed by Kuzey from IMO.
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>>59239771
No, it's either quagsire or primarina, depending on how important you find their learnset
it's actually lapras, she's a big girl
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>>59240032
In my fic, Roy will be a big guy (very fat)
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>planned for the main character and their team to get stuck in a different multiverse for an arc
>but the more I think about it the more I'm certain readers won't care for it since it's detached from the original setting
Sigh, no mid-story isekai into Pokemon Conquest or pmd I guess.
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>>59240305
Skill issue, it worked in Fairy Tail
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Hit flow state and like 8K words later it's way to late at night.

Don't you love it when you were going to write one thing and then it snowballs in all kinds of other directions you didn't think of until you were there?
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>>59240305
the anime could do it too, multiple times
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>>59240451
To be fair the anime can afford to play around with alternate dimensions because there's no plot to speak of.
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>>59240441
Same, but it only happens when i'm tired and i should be sleeping so i'm always faced with sleep or write.
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>TQ
Prince of Po Town or In Mine Own for me. (I do like all threadfics, but these two I view as the flagship the threadfics personally.)
Prince of Po Town I like to slander more though.
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>>59240032
>Forgetting Wol
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>>59240459
most fics don't have a plot either, other than the journey itself
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>>59240635
Even if we're going to be that reductive, very few are as episodic as the anime.
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>>59240645
>very few are as episodic as the anime.
What? Most episodes were connected tho, the anime was and still is shit but it wasn't episodic like The Simpsons
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>>59240664
Don't be pedantic, man. You know what we mean.
Conan has a plot too but no one's gonna pretend it's not episodic as hell either.
>>59240459
>>59240305
It really depends on the make of the episode.
You've just gotta make the events happening there actually be meaningful and have long-term ramifications.
IE: Conquest? Make it so that little girl-chan they met in the past created a trainer school™ based on MC-kun teachings and the school has endured to modern times. Maybe make it so the school has a treasure passed from the ages that little girl-chan left for MC-kun alongside a letter to get you all emotional since she's thousands of years dead.
Maybe MC-kun met a legendary Pokemon too who's still alive and helps out during the climax of the story Ash riding Mega fug movie-style.
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>>59240645
you're talking like almost every fic didn't have filler
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>>59240712
I never said anything about hating waffles.
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>>59240715
episodic and filler are the same thing if you really think about it
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>>59240716
All episodics are filler but when filler shows up outside of an episodic series my giratina genes activate from rage and my merciless red eyes gaze coolly.
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If humans could mega evolve would there be ethnical distinctions between the mega stones?
I can't imagine something like a Kalosian is the same kind of human as normal people.
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>>59240847
pokehumans are already superpowered
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>>59240908
Are pokehumans also endurance GODS like we were in our prehistory
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>>59241012
they had to be otherwise convincing pokemon to bond with humans would've been impossible
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>>59241023
"Bonded" like we domesticated every other species—by killing and following a species around until we stumble on the sick or wounded young they leave behind, which we then stock-holm syndrome to serve our needs over the generations.
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>>59239980
True, although I'll probably have to read Silver Eyes first, I've only ever seen snippets of it posted here. It's just that 909,764 words in total chapter for an average of 31371 words per chapter is daunting.
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>>59240466
Yeah, feels like the only time I have time to write is when I should be getting ready for bed.

Compared to my notes of where I planned for this to go, there's at least four extra new plot points I didn't have before that will probably make future stuff a little easier.
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Is accuracy a skill issue in a realistic pokemon world, or are some moves inherently hard to land and you'll get roasted for running Focus Miss and the like? How do you make your Pokémon more accurate?
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>Bot comment on ao3
It's spreading
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>>59241396
There was one month I got a bot comment every other day on Ao3, it's annoying and the reason why I turn comment moderation on for my fics.
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btw
My weight gain novel will not only simple being about Roy and Liko being fat, but an horror story similar to ResidentEvil/Silent Hill and the character will be 18, Pokemons wll be treated more like real animals than cute companions.
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>>59241520
What are you, some type of esl frankenstein of writefags?
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>>59241324
you gotta lock in and Lock-On
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can you safely drink a water-type move?
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>>59241693
Has anybody ever gotten sick from a pokemon in the games or anime? Realistically the water should be fine aside from maybe having microorganisms if you want to be realistic.
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>>59238888
Well it's not set in Unova, so it'd probably be them traveling to the region because a mythical or legendary with future sight dispatched them to avert a coming catastrophe.
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The League just announced that every Koffing and Weezing without pollution filters on their gas protrusions will be put to death as a measure to combat climate change
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>>59241791
First they came for the Koffing and Wheezing and I did not speak out for I wasn't a Biker
Then they came for the Zubat and Ekans and I did not speak out for I wasn't a Grunt
Now they come for the Oddish and Bellsprout and there was no one left to speak out for me
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It's been 30 years, I'm so glad that Lapras hunting has been made legal again
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>>59238681
Pofag...
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>>59241842
Even I don’t touch Horizons stuff.
>>59240441
It’s a great feeling and an even better sign that you’re truly in the world of the story.
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>>59241527
Sorry for you being a monotype pokémon.
I speak and write in three different languages.
If you are Australian, you're super cool.
If you're american, please repel yourself from the planet earth and eat an all-american donut (riceball).
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>>59241929
Well, aside from the fact you can't speak, write, or read any of those languages you're idea sounds like something that a horrific frankenstein of Pofag, Pokenormalfag, and Mahoganyfag would write.
>Obsession with BBW and weight gain (Pofag)
>Video games and horror (Pokenormalfag)
>Realistic Pokemon (Mahoganyfag)
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>>59242013
You're probably an incel and a dweeb.
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>>59242171
It's called being LightChud, what are you, DarkWoke?
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>>59241240
That's okay, I never read it either.
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>>59241520
Sound dumb as hell, I'd read it if it's not AI
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>>59238888
They arrive to battle an evil Dark type pokemon, only to job when it turns out its Dark/Ghost.
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>>59242177
When is gamefreak going to release a Chud/Woke type pokemon, the series is 30 years old.
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>>59242329
AI can't match my style and ideas.
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>>59242518
I want to it to be edge and 18+.
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>>59241240
Protip you can skim like 95% of the conversations Silver has with his friends. You'll miss nothing and you'll shave off several hundred thousand words.
Use context to determine when it's not the 5%, usually when something dramatic is going on.
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>>59238671
What's the best time period for a Pokemon fic? and why it's the early 2000s?
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>>59242670
2000s without a doubt.
Mobile phones are hard to insert in stories, social media is boring too.
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In the interest of the common bad, what threadfic do you find to be the worst. >:)
Shitpost answers only.
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>>59242726
Spice and Fox because the MC is a cuck, and id the author doesn't include cuckoldry he cucked out from including it.
In either case he is either is a cuck since he clearly enjoys writing about cuckoldry, or he's a cuck because he refuses to commit to it and is this cucking out.
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>>59242670
>>59242676
How STRONG would you be if you had a fully uncensored personal AI in an early 2000's setting? Top of the line image, video, and textgen. Could you beat a P*kedex holder with it?
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>>59242815
What, like one of our world's LLMs? It wouldn't help you at all, they already have porygon which are real AI and don't hallucinate.
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A Pokedex is a physical System.
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>>59242847
>An artificial POKéMON created due to extensive research, it can perform only what is in its program.
Dex entry doesn't make regular Porygon sound all that great
>In recent years, this species has been very helpful in cyberspace. These Pokémon will go around checking to make sure no suspicious data exists
Cyber janny while CHADtom is a beloved household staple btw
>Further research enhanced its abilities. Sometimes, it may exhibit motions that were not programmed.
Porygon 2 is a step up but is still faulty. And Porygon-Z is pure schizophrenia you don't want near your electronics
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>>59242341
That's just dark types, a shame gay fairies are super effective
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>>59242911
A rotomdex with O-powers is sorta like that.
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>>59243178
>Within the games, O-Powers are described as mysterious forces. In Pokémon Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon, the player can find a man in Haina Desert who purports to be from space. This man claims to have received a gift of "star pulses" from a group of Solrock and/or Lunatone 30 years ago. Sometime after that, he entrusted the O-Powers to Hoenn's old guys. Eventually, when the old guys wanted to retire, they bequeathed their powers to a "powerless" man who transformed into Mr. Bonding, who set off on his own journey to "give O-Powers to Trainers around the world". By the time of Legends: Z-A, O-Powers seem to have vanished from the world at large, as evidenced by a Scientist pondering on their mysterious disappearance.

What.
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>>59242933
Have you ever heard the story of the wizard who got rich by selling toilets that made all waste put in them disappear? No water or plumbing required. He sold millions, maybe billions of the toilets, there was at least one in every home all over the planet.
He lived comfortably to a rip old age. When he died, he left only one note behind, it read: "Gotcha'ya!"
Every toilet he had ever sold was linked to a pocket dimension filled with all the waste from all the toilets he had sold over the centuries. Upon his death, all of that accumulated filth was forcefully expelled from every toilet everywhere, all at once.
The world was literally plunged into shit, as a joke, by a dead old man.

That is what Rotom phones are. They are the toilet, waiting for the day they all collective shit on everyone who owns one all at once.
As a prank.

Never forget that Rotoms are devious little tricksters and don't trust the Rotom Corporation.
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>>59243214
>t. pokenormal
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>>59243214
What the fuck do I do? My local daycare got bought up by private equity and converted into a Rotom Breeding Center.
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>>59243205
Arceus saw mr bonding abusing the mechanic and pushed a new update to remove it because citizens aren't supposed to have powers
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>>59243240
Have you considered going innawoods and living in a secret base?
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>>59243205
I like to imagine Mr. Bonding had a secret Super Sentai arc against a villain who used O-Powers for evil, and to prevent it from ever happening again he vowed to only share it with people he can trust and convinced the few others to do the same.
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>>59243251
You do knows that's considered poke-abuse? Rotom phones are a mandatory part of the ciruclum as well as the Internal Pokemon Association is pressuring governments to restrict home schooling options as well.
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If Eternatus manipulates space shouldn't he have been Psychic like Palkia? How does the poison typing factor into being able to warp reality?
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>>59243338
Palkia is Water/Dragon. You have fallen victim to the Psychicfag propaganda.
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>>59243347
Fuck you're right, I guess the concept of space is somehow related to water and to poison
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>>59243367
All of those things flow.
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>>59243392
Earth is 70% water.
Space is poison.
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>>59243367
Well, related to water at least. Giratina, Necrozma and Z energy, Mega Energy, Terastal energy, and of course Dyna energy also all fuck with space to a degree.
It's probably safe to assume that at a certain level of power anything can fuck with space. I wouldn't bat an eye if a fic stated that Groudon's ability worked by warping the space between the earth and the sun or the earth's surface and its core.
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>>59243426
Water is the strongest solvent in the universe btw.
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>>59243476
I HATE "all superpowers are portals" wormfaggotry so much
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Was burned out on writing and running on fumes but suddenly I'm feeling excited about the next few chapters. It's a good feeling. Shouldn't be a difficult slog, now.
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>>59243606
That sounds retarded. But then again everything I've heard about worm sounded retarded so...
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>>59243704
The only thing I know about Worm is the ESCALATION memes
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Honest question, have there ever been a shipper that you absolutely despise because how insane they are? I just learn recently about a Roy shipper who's insane about him being the main character and want Liko to be a side character that only think about dating him. What's crazier is that he made MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS all trashing the official Pokémon anime twitter/x account saying, "Make RoyxLiko real!!"
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>>59244023
>Honest question, have there ever been a shipper that you absolutely despise because how insane they are?
Yes but I mostly deal with them concerning Life is Strange I've never really encountered that in Pokemon. Hell, I'm a JessiexDelia crackshipper so I probably AM that despised shipper to some people.
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>>59244023
>have there ever been a shipper that you absolutely despise because how insane they are?
The entire Mihomo fanbase, their fans want to make everyone gay and they do go around harassing artist that do straight art. Damn, some Bocchi fan got fucking death threads because he made some pic with a guy, also lol nobody cares about Roy at all beyond a few autists in reddit
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>>59243687
That's my girl! Braixen is also there I guess
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>>59244023
Shippers tend to be mentally ill, this is known. Animefags also tend to be mentally ill, this is known. But the mental illness it takes to ship the asexual battletards Ash and Roy is next level.
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>>59243338
>Its abilities may also draw inspiration from nuclear power, particularly its seemingly endless supply of energy which Rose attempted to use as a power source for Galar and which leaks out in the form of particles and is the source of the Dynamax phenomenon.
It's a living nuke
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>>59242815
I would just my Magnemite to kill it
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>>59244042
What Life is Strange ship IMO? I know there are other games but I'm only vaguely aware of the first game due to that Catholic(?) girl that is see in 3d render porn sometimes.
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>>59238671
Does your fic have any kind of running gag?
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>>59244023
You know who.
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>>59244642
Never really done one, I guess if I had to say the coolest thing to a running gag I ever had in a fic was in something furry adjacent with a character wondering if a wolf woman had multiple nipples like a dog.
But I never committed to the bit so it was kind of half baked. I think it was one of the first pieces of fanfiction I ever wrote.



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