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>Ended the golden age of cultural relevance of Pokemon
>Games notoriusly hated back in the days for missing core features like day/night cycle and and not allowed to trade with gen 2
>Insipid roster
>Overrated AF starters
>No relevant innovation in the gameplay, no new types, no new evolutions for older Pokemon, nothing
>Started the formulaic "evil team wants to destroy the world and you need the legendary mascotte to save it" trope
>No physical/special split so pretty much unplayable nowadays
>Half of the map being water

Pretty much only /vp/ the contrarian can love this mess. Normies all agree its the weakest gen among the core first four (4>2>1>3). Gen 5 onwards is nu-Pokemon so It dosent count
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>>59244612
>>Games notoriusly hated back in the day
t. someone born after 2005
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(You)
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>>59244612
About time someone made this post. Holy based.
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I have genwar fatigue. Fight over the best pseudo legend or the best pokemon center design or something, this shit is getting old.
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>>59244659
Not my fault /vp/ astroturfed this mediocre gen across the web, while spreading blackwashing revisionism for superior gens like 2 and especially 4
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>>59244659
Exterior: Gen 4
Interior: Gen 7
Gen 9's gas station aesthetic is pretty cozy too.
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I think it can’t be overstated how disappointing the games were as someone who saw the game develop from gen 1 to gen 2. All the new features added in that short timespan really let my imagination run wild for what the next gen could do on a new handheld.

And then it regressed. It pretty much killed all hope I had for the series. It was still going to be Pokemon and so I’d still enjoy it, but I could stop imagining the series taking great leaps forward.
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>>59244664
This. Gen 3 was a dark age for Pokemon in term of popularity, maybe second only on gen 5 (but its games were still Better than RSE)
Gen 6 onwards while shit had side stuff like Pokemon Go that helped made Pokemon mainstream agr
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>>59244612
I'm happy you're out of the closet and all but why are you telling us.
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>>59244612
Why do zoomers all talk the same?
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>>59244662
Gen 4 is the true most overrated region.
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>>59244662
>2
Gen 2 is the worst gen from 1-7, easily.
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counterpoint: battle frontier
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>>59244761
Gen 4 BF mogs it
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>only mainline game that ran at 60
>hating it
kys
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>>59244612
>Ended the golden age of cultural relevance of Pokemon
That was Gen 2.
>Games notoriusly hated back in the days for missing core features like day/night cycle and and not allowed to trade with gen 2
Revisionist history.
>Insipid roster
>Overrated AF starters
Weird taste/opinion but youre allowed to have it.
>No relevant innovation in the gameplay,
Abilities are one of the most innovative additions to the series.
>no new types,
Every game introducing a new type would be ass.
>no new evolutions for older Pokemon,
We got prevos for some!

>Started the formulaic "evil team wants to destroy the world and you need the legendary mascotte to save it" trope

Valid criticism. Hate that this became the meme standard.
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>>59244612
>>Ended the golden age of cultural relevance of Pokemon
It wasn't bound to last forever. Trends rise and fall off. Just look at other monster-taming franchises that were pretty popular at the time and tell me if they fared better or even put a dent in Pokémon's dominance in the market. And if often goes undiscussed, but I think the cuteification of Johtomon may have done greater damage to the brand's image for the non-japanese audience and made gamers dismiss Pokémon as a "baby's IP" (let's not even get started with the english ashnime's first johto opening).
>>Overrated AF starters
Name a better starter line.
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>>59244612
>No relevant innovation in the gameplay
Are we gonna ignore introducing doubles? The official format. And Abilities?
>No physical/special split so pretty much unplayable nowadays
Ah, this is bait, trying new baits Kojo?
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>>59244817
Gen 5 had 60 fps battles
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>>59244857
>(let's not even get started with the english ashnime's first johto opening).
What was wrong with it?
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>>59244865
It feels like a cartoon opening for toddlers, which likely went a long way in alienating the teenage male demographic, especially when you consider the edginess of late 90s/early 2000s culture.
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>>59244612
I haven’t played it but I hate the roster of Pokemon. There’s a few good ones obviously but it’s padded with so many ugly filler shitmons
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>>59244875
I didn't feel that way until I heard the Battle Frontier and second and 3rd DP openings desu.
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>>59244857
>Name a better starter line.
Gen 6.
Followed by Gen 1.
Followed by Gen 2.
Followed by Gen 4.
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Ah, it's another standard kojobait
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>>59244901
>Gen 6
Sorry but the chespin line is kinda bad and ruins the trio, I'd say it places below gen 4.
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>>59244925
I'd consider Froakie the only good starter in that line. Chespin is definitely the worst and ranks the trio down several notches.
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>>59244662
It's gen 2 that stopped being astroturfed, rather than gen 3 starting to be so. Except for the odd bitter gen 3 hate (thinly veiled Johtofag) thread.
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>>59244813
nah gen 4 is shit because it introduced the split.
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>>59244612
>missing core features like day/night
>No physical/special split
these are good things
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>>59244857
>the cuteification of Johtomon may have done greater damage to the brand's image for the non-japanese audience
This is one of those revisionist narratives that gets repeated just because it's already been repeated so much online, not because it's true. I was there. Marill would probably be the poster child for "cuteification," but people were counting down the days until they could catch "Pikablu."
Johto's dex itself wasn't the problem, it's that actually finding a Johto Pokemon in Johto was like finding a needle in a haystack. TPC and GF basically swept anything new under the rug to keep shilling the old shit and it made the franchise look like it was out of ideas when it wasn't. It's why gen 3 was designed to be more of a clean break.
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>>59244887
>and second and 3rd DP openings.
There's NO WAY you liked the first DP opening. That one was trying way too hard to be hip.
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>>59244994
Oh I agree that it was, but it grew on me over time.
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>>59244978
Part of it is just the timing. We got Gen 2 games kinda late. Pokemania was already starting to wane before Gen 2 games dropped.
By the time it did, a lot of people didnt even notice.
Its why Gen 2 feels like a lost generation.
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>>59245010
They might have gotten away with the delayed rollout if they had gone harder on emphasizing the new region and Pokemon as much as possible, including in-game, and properly fleshed out Johto as a region instead of the stupid Kanto postgame. Having to wait two years (which was a long time back then) only to get a glorified expansion pack for the games we already had was the true ending of Pokemania no matter how much Johtofags put on a full-court press to deny it. They were still peddling the same old shit from two years ago while Harry Potter had started kicking their ass and Yu-Gi-Oh was about to take the world by storm. Pokemania would have wound down eventually no matter what GF and TPC did, but the way they mishandled Gen 2 from start to finish sped up its demise.
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>>59244612
I tried to find something bad about Hoenn to shitpost about but I couldn't really.
I guess the physical special split was pretty darn dumb with Bite being a special move and Absol having no STAB with his better attack stat.
Artstyle is a bit boring next to something like Mario & Luigi Super Star Saga or Mother 3.
But otherwise there isn't too much to hate about gen 3.
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>make thread saying popular gen is actually le bad
>collect (You)s

Does /vp/ ever get tired of this formula?
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>>59244612
>Overrated AF starters
Overrated AF dex*
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>>59245103
Say "Unova bad" and you will get more (you)s.
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>>59245113
This
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>>59245205
Everyone either worships Unova or loathes Unova.
There is no in between.
So Unova = instant chaos.
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it's like.... their opinions are black or white......
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>>59244612
As much as I didn't like gen 3 back in the day, the lack of the physical/special split wasn't a dealbreaker for me. I never even noticed it in the first place and the games are still playable for me regardless of whether they have it or not
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>>59244612
keep seething, fat ameritard who uses meaningless buzzwords such as "pokemania"
Not even the unovaborts are as insufferable as you are.
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>>59244813
the gen 4 facilities are all inferior, except for the arcade.
Gen 3 BF with Arcade and PWT, replacing the shit palace and actually good stadium, would be the ultimate variant of the BF.
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>>59244748
Bro snuck in 6 and 7
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>>59245374
Brother snuck in gen 5, despite it being a nu-gen.
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>>59244612
>Coincidence
>Just... no?
>Not even sure what you're trying to say here
>Just wait until you see G4's starters
>Said about the game that introduced abilities and double battles (foundational for modern VGC)
>Started kino
>"Unplayable nowadays" is it that hard to just adapt? Besides when I was a kid I best these games by spaming tackle and quick-attack. You really don't need to invest the level of thought required for the physical/special split to matter in the main campaign.
>This one's true (Team Magma did nothing wrong (and neitherdid IGN))



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