Why was early Pokémon so kino?
>>59250759They even knew back then how spammable Body Slam was
>>59250759Pikachu>Speed: 90 Raichu>Speed: 100
>>59250806yeah, but pikachu weights 13 lbs while raichu weights 66 lbs
>>59250811yeahstoopid ass>>59250806
>>59250759No special effects. It was actual fights instead of every fight being two ugly CGI beams colliding and making a big smoke cloud where the shill mon wins
>>59250806Did you watch the episode? Raichu was faster originally but Pikachu learns Agility, taking advantage of the learnset Pikachu has over an early stone evolution.
>>59250759Is this the part where I have to say that (outside of movies) this and Charizard vs. Magma are only well animated fights until the Sinnoh seasons? Not going to dicksuck Kanto for remembering they have a budget during peak Pokemania.
>>59250813What pisses me off is that they made those retarded animations from the games canon. So, if Machamp uses Brick Break a giant energy hand materializes out of nowhere and attacks the opponent. As if they had Green Lantern Powers or some shit.
>>59250869Threadly reminder that shit started with shitno and iron tail.
Early pokemon had a strong Japanese identityLike all things once it went globalist it became slop
>>59250813Are you joking or what? The one in OP is an exception. 99% gen 1-2 fights are the Paint.net looping background while the mon jumps and attacks.
>>59250869Gayfreak probably insisted in an attempt to justify their shit
>>59250759It had that 90s charm and Shudo. I know I sound like a 90s kid but Shudo understood pokemon was kinda of bananas and a bit crazy. So he leaned into it a lot:>Santa is real and he uses Jynx as his elves? Yeah that fits.>Hollywood just exists in Kanto and they meet an expy of Steven Spielberg? Sure that makes sense!>Sabrina just turns people into dolls when she beats them and is child-horror? Add that in.>Makes total sense that there are trainer schools that use the RBY games as a training sim to prepare trainer.>There's a random gambling town named Neon town where everyone is an asshole just cause they don't sleepEven the running gag that Team Rocket just has random gadgets and mechs like a Gyados CSS Hunley came from this and was the only thing later series would carry over. Shudo understood the world and that it was a bit crazy and whimiscal and leaned into that. Treating the subject matter only as seriously as it needed to be. Starting I would even say halfway through Johto it lost its charm and became standard shounen slop as >>59250813pointed out with the fights. It know when to be silly, how to animate fights better and even Shudo said the emphasis was more on the hijinks and comedy than on the fights. Shudo made the OG series a comedy fighting anime. Late Johto and onward made it shounen slop fighting shit.
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>>59250759>>59250846>>59250895Honestly, imo the perfect anipoke would combine the humor and tone of Indigo League and the battles of Johto and afterwards. One of the annoying parts about Kanto anime is how Ash rarely gets to prove himself in battle.
>>59250895>>59251014Shudo's whimsical writing made battles even better, imho. Ash felt like an actually inexperienced, hot-headed and overly energetic kiddo whose greatest strength was his creativity.
>>59251042Shudo didn't write the battles, he's specifically said he let others do them because he wanted to focus on worldbuilding and anyone can write a battle.
>>59250886you will never be Japanese, Daniel>h-how did you know my name was-it's always a Daniel
Because they weren't sure it would be a hit without being at least a little good. Now they know you faggots will eat up anything with a pokemon logo on it.
Do you really need to ask? It was 100% this nigga. Just compare his version of Pokemon to everything that came after it.Anyone can make a Pokemon anime. But he made THE Pokemon anime everybody knows and loves.
>>59250895Shudo was based
>>59251907>forgot the picHe's allowed to do some weird shit with Lugia and motherhood for giving us a lifetime of kino in exchange
>>59250759I'm gonna assume you're talking about the franchise as a whole and not just the anime.I can post my reasons based on a POV of someone who was there when this all started:>Pokemon world felt magical because in the beginning it was a realistic world where pokemon just were there and people didn't make a big deal out of it.Starting from Gen 3 EVERYTHING revolves around pokemon to the point of having buildings shaped like them.>Lack of internet make mysterious thing well, mysterious. School rumours like Bill's Backyard got your imagination running like nothing else>Pokemon designs actually felt like animals that could inhabit a world and even mechanized pokemon like Magnemite felt like they belonged there. Design directions were consistent.>The idea of Pokemon started as a passion project from someone who wanted to get his idea out there and happened to know the right people to get it going>Sugimori's early art was pretty unique and soulfulPokemon could have ended right at gen 2 and people would still have very fond memories of it and way less shitposting.
When Shudo stopped being involved as much. You can sense the vibe shift around mid-Johto
>>59252013>Starting from Gen 3 EVERYTHING revolves around pokemonWhat? This series has always revolved around Pokemon. What passed for human characters in the first two gens were less interesting and less dynamic than the average first-town NPC in a real RPG. If it wasn't for the collectible creatures, nobody would have ever played this slop.
>>59250894>kid's cartoon law: characters cannot be shown directly punching or kicking eachother>game dev limitation: characters cannot be shown directly punching or kicking eachotherit was only a matter of time.
>>59252953Pokemon are constantly punching and kicking each other in the anime, it's just a certain few moves that get those retarded effects from the games.
>>59252968All of those were blocked.
>>59252054He's talking about setting. Setting wise it used to feel like Pokemon were a part of the world in the same way animals are part of ours. Now everyone in setting is obsessed with Pokemon. Absolutely everything revolves around them in some way. All entertainment has to do with Pokemon. All clothing and food is Pokemon branded etc.Imagine if every Hollywood movie was about animals. Every cafe was a cat cafe. Every piece of branding had to include an animal. All celebrities walked around in fursuits based on their favourite animal. That's what modern Pokemon feels like.
>>59250759It had a better setting
>>59252051>>59251983>>59251914>>59251907Shudo only wrote 8 episodes in the entire show. What's the big deal about him?
stfu chapjeet
>>59250759Must be a really based thread if the usual ESL shAARtyjeet's been crying about not having enough space again and will cry even more about getting exposed as the only one trying to cover up where every single shAARtyjeet comes from https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/thread/57671385/#57672400
>>59253051Satoshi himself mentioned this. He prefered the special manga but he still had a soft spot for Shudo's anime and it was mentioned that Satoshi loved how American media and the anime portrayed it as in Japan there was an over emphasis on just the pokemon cause of Japan's autism toward mascot characters and making them marketable. He really enjoyed that in the west and in the anime Ash was a big thing too and the relationship between people and pokemon as the humans were just as important as the pokemon. Yin and Yang type shit. Ironically the gen 3 stuff is what he would hate: Pokemon became mascot characters even in their own world. People treat them as merch and pets instead of yokai or monsters.
because it was the 90 , modern anime is fucking garbage
>>59250759It was still a Japanese IP with the Japanese soul. It became corporate globohomo slop with Gen 5 when it branched out of Japan, or you could even say with Gen 4 when they held the first VGC, signaling that it wasn't a cute IP designed for catching bug monsters anymore.
