Trick Room Mega-Garde Edition Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch with a mobile release later. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026. >NewsFirst Season ends on May 12th.Mobile release possibly leaked for June: https://xcancel.com/CentroLeaks/status/2041378934739108104 >Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enNew Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback) Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond. >Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Mega Kalos starters and E-Floette require ZA transfer. >/pcg/ OP pastebin https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPh Previous: >>59249209
>>59254961sex
>>59254938It really wouldn't, considering you already do that now with a physical sheet of paper, or pokepaste if it's an online tournament. I assume they'll add in game support for open team sheet eventually. It's one of those things like replays or custom rules that would be nice to have, but weren't needed for the 1.0-get-this-into-user-hands-so-we-can-test-it-before-Worlds release.
>Keep getting raped in doubles>Take my doubles team to singles>Ride a 13-game win streak into Master.Well... alright then.
>>59254961what's up with Garde's hips? What's her diet?
>>59254961Green needs to be added.
>>59254975How did your doubles team beat all the bullshit stealth rocks, toxic spikes, roar, etc.
>>59254973Gamefreak doesn’t believe in open sheets they do them only because they can’t stop people from sharing information at tournaments
Shit game
>>59254987Not him but I only ran into one team that managed to do one Roar into Stealth Rocks. I saw more Focus Glimmoras and Whimsicott Mementos.Also Body Press Iron Defense Roost Corvinight is stupid in a pick 3 format.
>>59254961>trick room gardeWoah
>>59254987You just kill them if they're stupid enough to press stealth rock
>>59254993>Also Body Press Iron Defense Roost Corvinight is stupid in a pick 3 format.Yeah Corviknight is fucked if you don't bring a hard hitting electric or fire special attacker
>>59254988It's a good thing this game is made by Pokemon Works then. Considering they already implemented reconnecting to a game in progress on DC they clearly are trying to make the game better for tournaments.
>>59255005I have Volcarona on hand for that match-up. Also, Weed Cat is surprisingly reliable for the other stalling dickwads I've been running into.
>>59255024I ran into a Volcarona once. I threw a rock at it and then he had nothing for my Corviknight.
>>59255005its strong but most actual singles teams have like, 2-3 iron defense corviknight killers. depending on the pokemon it doesn't even wall some physical attackers, especially if you have to switch into 1 attack first
I wish they had Gothitelle or some other weird mon available.
this fella is bad and i hate that>dies in one hit to basically everything >go jolly it cant kill anything >go adamant and its too slow even with scarf lame!!
>>59255042I love him too, and it sucks he's a little too fast for Trick Room.
>>59255042Should have gotten a Mega, but honestly even that would have been a toss up with the new shit ZA Megas we've got so far
I was thinking about fighting types, and suddenly realized mega gallade beats down 4 of the top 5 mons despite nobody using it.>sneas, gambit, incin, chompMight be worth looking into even though he's got weaknesses
How do I beat this fucking thing?
>>59254961Stop drawing Gardevoir with massive flopping tits. It's gross.
>>59255056Have you tried Earthquake?
>>59255106My wife has the biggest
>>59255042Tyrantrum and especially Aurorus being shit is one of the many things I absolutely resent regarding the franchise to the point of being hatred.
>>59255155>AurorousSTILL DOESN'T GET POWER GEM BTW
>>59255055>60 HP, DEF, SP. DEFHe's shit. He won't survive even a neutral hit.
>>59255155I resent their balancing in general desu
>>59255042It's pretty crazy how only Aeodatcyl is the usable fossil mon at the moment. I would definitely love a t-rex
>>59254961Trick Room Mega Gardevoir?How does one use Gardevoir in Doubles?
>>59255195click the spread move like everyone else
>>59255158And this is why complaints over Flygon not having a mega evolution and how Game Freak treats it like shit are the most laughable shit ever.You seriously can't say with a straight face that Flygon has it worse than Aurorus. You just fucking can't even ironically.
>>59255195It's floette 1.0 less speed, less atk, weaker moves.Press hyper voice or press hyper beam, if you are feeling cute there's some coverage options, imprison and CM but that's about it.
>>59255195This is my setup. Generally I have to know if the team is running trick room, tailwind, or electro web. Maushold helps out a lot. If I'm facing a trick room team, I just predict the turn the trick room setter goes since 2 trick rooms in the same turn cancel it out. Otherwise if I know they're going to play speed games I'll use it to fuck them over the turn they use tailwind.Gardevoir, Maushold, Garchomp, Talonflame are the core. I've been experimenting with Aegislash/Wash Rotom and Water Tauros/HeatRotom.
>>59255195access to trick room is one of the only reasons to play garde over floette right now until psychic surge mons get added.
>>59255186Only if reality could be changed to favor the less fortunate and oppressed...Archaludon has too much privilege.
>>59255211You should change Garchomp to be 6HP 28ATK 32SPD so it 100% survives Adamant Dragon Claw from other Garchomp. You're already resigning to going second, you don't want to risk getting OHKO'd by a high roll.
Why have they not added Green into masters?
>>59255195Dazzling GleamTrick RoomProtectImprison
>>59255234I'm no math wizard, and haven't looked at calculators yet. But I'll make those changes.
WHERE'S THE FUCKING THUNDERSTRUCK INCINTRADE IT TO MEEEEEEEEE
>>59255226We need more aura sphere users, sound lizard is fine but there isn't that much shit that threatens archduraludon outside of megas.
>>59255263>sneasler
>>59255266Yeah but you are still dedicating sneasler to respond to something that may live and still shit out a draco meteor on your ally.
>>59255269>dedicating sneasler >as if he isn't the swiss army knife of pokemon right noware you retarded or just hard stuck ultra ball
I seriously hope you're subscribed for maximum luck. Your 70%+ attack will never miss and you're guaranteed Flinches when you really need them.
>>59255279I only missed focus blast once and that was after I had hit top 2k
I did it! I got to Master Ball tier! I'm happy to stop here, I played one more game and immediately lost. I'm super happy that the game that got me into master ball was my charizard clutching it in the 1v1
>>59255272Not really, it just feels that sneasler is being hard targeted by literally everyone as the pokemon to beat, I found psychic Noivern once as something people bring to shit on it.
>>59255162>95 def, 115spdef, can run hp because base 100s aren't running max+He'll be ok, thanks
>>59255279I hit a focus blast and a hurricane in the same game today and I probably would've lost of either missed :]
I can't get heat wave to not miss critical mons 2x per match, or get overheat to connect on Farig T1. Can't imagine relying on 75% moves.
Is Mega Houndoom the worst Mega in the game? It's so bad it commits suicide if the sun is up due to how embarrassed it feels.
>>59255356Solar power is a good ability, but Houndoom can't set its own sun, it also has more problems for it that Charizard Y has.
>>59255356BURNED non-mega ordinary Feraligatr, with a reflect up, takes over half health from this thing. And you need to use nasty plot to be threatening when it can barely survive being blown on. You would need a follow me sacrifice for sure... HP so bad the opposition simply needs to double protect and watch you die lol.I'll keep testing all the different megas available but this is worse than Audino.
>>59255302Congrats anon.Zard is the man at the beginning or end of a game. If a team looks really hostile, but has one mon you need Zard to deal with, save it in the back.
>>59255396Chandelure must have some good traits right?
>>59255356I always felt like that thing seems like it should be good but isn’t
>>59255418Is green from LGPE in masters yet?
>>59255471I've never played masters and barely have a notion of what it is.I also didn't end up playing LGPE.
>>59255419Eh sets the trick room and doesn't afraid of anything.
>>59255195Pop TR to screw over Tailwind users or speedier threats (not super hard to be faster than an uninvested base 100), it's also good insurance for disabling hard TR teams. I spec her 32 hp/28 def/6 spatk so she survives 1 hit from Mega Venu, Mega Gengar, Sneasler, and Archaludon. Pixilate Hyper Voice off of 165 special attack is so strong you don't really need that much investment to be seriously threatening. Psychic to counter Poison types or Moonblast/Hyper Beam if you want to fully lean into Fairy STAB. She pairs up really, really well with Incineroar and Garchomp to patch up her weaknesses
GIVE ME ANCHOR ARMS, GAMEFREAK!
>>59255540The number of megas not in Champions is criminal.How did we get M-Floette before all these others?
>>59255042ZA was a good chance to give it a Mega too with it being a Kalosmon and allAt least the opportunity is still there I guess, and if we ever get a 100% accuracy Rock biting move Strong Jaw could be a valid set over Head Miss
>>59255226Keep in mind this is Archaludon without Assault Vest, you haven't seen how fucking stupid this over-designed powercreep mon gets
>>59255542To sell ZA
>>59255545We just need stronger mons in.It was a bastard in reg H but tapered off in reg F. I just don't see any evidence that we'll get the mons we need to deal with it.
Once paradox mons are in, do you think we'll see Aerodactyl's role as fast tailwind be supplanted by Roaring Moon?
>>59255555Aerodactyl will have stopped being meta long before Paradox mons are in.
>>59255555Gonna be a long fucking time before they reintroduce paradox mons.
>>59255542So people buy ZA.
>>59255555They aren't gonna just keep adding pokemon into the same format. We will have different regulations with completely different pools of mons. Aero may not even be in the same format when we get one with the paradox mons.
>>59255563Very true.I hope we get them in a mega format though. Waiting for tera would take forever.
Give us the Ultra Beasts.
>>59255568And this will suck balls.I wanted to play all the pokemon with just megas in.
No new Pokemon are added next seasonShop adds Z-Crystals of every type for 2000VP
>>59255632so nothing changes and every game will be exactly the same as it is now
>>59255596I need stakataka.I need to see if it can actually raise it's atk with this system.
>>59255651I think we can calc that already, answer is no.Def is 207 at the lowest while Atk can only be 201 at the highest.
>>59255555>Aero’s going to be kicked out eventually by powercrept nonsenseFeels bad.
>>59255662I feel so cheated.I even have one with low def IVs for it to trigger.
>>59255669>they deliberately made the new Megas like Lucario Z have 151 base speed, just enough to outspeed the existing fastest Megas at 150 speed like Mega Aerodactyl and Alakazam
>>59255676I’m also tired of marketing priority giving certain mons bogus boosts.
>>59255676erm it was actually to outspeed Calyrex Shadow Rider while underspeeding booster Flutter Mane and +1 Flame Charge Koraidon
>>59255684>gamefreak can optimize in this way but only for Pokemon they actually care about lmao
>>59255670With the advent of Body Press in gen 8, I think it can still do okay with boost going to def.
>>59255687Kind of like scarfed Urshifu outspeeding +speed base 150 max evs mons by just 1 point.
>>59255690Oh, that’s why it has that speed stat.
>all 3 Z Megas and Zeraora have >150 base speedfucking niggers
I'm so fucking tired of the asian players that clog up my matches. I'm always losing to them over bullshit
>>59255690>>59255697>knowing Ursifu's speedSorry, I just know when my Storm Drain is going to proc
>>59255702I get why they would do it for garchomp and absol, but lucario didn't need another really strong mega
>>59255708Rarely saw Gastrodon.
>Cant break out of top 150,000 playersMaster Ball 4 at least for the first season, not too mad at it. I can’t no life the game and my favorites aren’t fully in it yet. Overall had fun this season.
https://www.youtube.com/live/NBlMDVec95QPokemon Champions official tournament in Malaysia.
>>59255718nice, english too. is this in person?
>>59255752Online I think.This one broadcasts in english.
are there any non-attack boosted pokemon that can one hit KO a primarina?
>>59255767adamant sneasler dire clawmeowscarada flower trickmega beedrill poison jabmega meganium solar beammega geninja gunk shot
>>59255767Does solar power Heliolisk count? Thunderbolt does then.Archaludon also 1hkos with electroshot.A lot of Prims are probably running way more def than its already specially bulky, probably to survive dire claw.
>>59255689Yeah, but it's not the same, stab rock slide/gyro from it's boosted attack in trick room was devastating.Stakataka and Celeestela were my favorites of the SM era because they had such unique playstyles back in the day.
>>59255236I got rekt by one of these the first time trying out a gard team in masters. But I miss played and thought the gard was the dudes zorark
I wanna try a team with the following Mega Gardevoir Meowscarada Dragapult Preferably doubles
I get why everyone hates Incineroar
GREEN FROM LGPE NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO MASTERS
>>59255419It has Power Split which is really interesting on a mega with 175 special attack... You could build it as a support mon and split its special with a pure bulk Milotic or something ridiculous so Milotic can decimate things. Don't tell people about this alpha male big dick energy strat.
>>59255980Really? It got so many counters that it might just be a liability
>>59255996Interesting.
>>59255957>MeowscaradaFag
>>59255435It really needs a better ability. Imagine if it had some mix between FlashFire and intimidate. Two immunities and intimidate would allow the frail ass thing to actually survive a hit, maybe even two weaker hits!
>>59255996>>59256004I tried it and Milotic still did jack shit damage. If you could self proc competitive that would have worked better... It's good self proccing competitive doesn't work, but they allow you to eerie impulse your own Serperior so wtf with that...
>>59256120Same reason that Serperior can self-proc with Leaf Storm while Defiant and Competitive mons can't. Contrary reverses all stat changes, period, while the other two can only be activated by an opponent.
>>59256131I understand how the mechanic works but what I'm saying is, if they made Competitive work that way to prevent it from being overpowered, it's weird they allowed Contrary to work that way without balancing it in a similar manner.
>>59255632Nah, we know reg M-B is next, so we’re getting the other half of the ZA megas (except probably the mythicals and Zygarde, unless M-B is a restricted format), the question is only whether they gut the list of existing megas to make room or just add them all together, my guess is the former.
>>59255155Aurorus just saved my bacon last match. Snow Warning is nice but I should probably swap it for Mega Froslass
>>59256120Wasn't there a time when bulldoze activated it or am I confusing it with surfing your own coalosal/ttar for weakness policy/absorb bulb.
>>59256153>Nah, we know reg M-B is nextNext season is still M-A.
Meowscarada is basically a casino; success relies entirely on rolling three with Triple Axel. Do you feel lucky?
I'm putting together an absolutely devious mega venusaur leech seed team in my head. Featuring such hits as taunt wisp sableye, hypnosis milotic, and normal ass incineroar
>>59256183You need Kingambit to dominate Farigarif before you can use your Sableye.
Are there even different archetypes in VGC? It feels like every team is just one or two synergistic Pokemon, one or two disruption types, one or two sweepers, all typally shaped to cover each other's weakness. And then the gameplay of each is exactly the same.
>>59256256Yes there's the "Pimpnite Special" archetype.
>>59256258based, we love pimpnite here>>59256256I mean if you want to ask if there are any other teams with a strat other than>hit hard with a two mon combothen not really. Alt wincons that we have are basically OHKO spam, and perish song
>>59254987doubles mentality shits all over singles mentality. they will try to get their hazards up, a doubles player will just fucking press the kill button instead of wasting time with setting up fifteen hazards like some kind of gentleman's agreement
>>59256256>tailwind offense>trick room>mixed room >balance/control>weatherIf your only accepted definition of an archetype is “6 Pokemon of different types that do roughly the same thing” then no.
>>59256348Sounds like me and Green when we double battle. Shes very aggressive
>>59255998I had Basc and I still lost...
>>59256348Singles is just the autism simulator. It's only better in campaign when the opponents don't constantly switch out.
>>59256387Basculegion just drops dead in response to everything.
Which Z Mega Evolution should I get ready?
>>59256402Both Lucario and Absol are supremely superior to their regular mega counterparts, so those two. Garchomp is just weird and likely won't see any real use.
It would be cool to see Green with a Mewtwo ultimate version in masters.
>>59256406The fuck are you talking about, we don't know their abilities yet
I like Green's adorable apple stem ahoge.
>>59256421>>59256433Least homosexual Mustards enjoyer
>>59256421she should have the player character as a pokemon in masters
>>59256421I just love Green and married her.
>>59256424we don't even need to know their abilities, unless they are ACTIVELY negative like Truant-level, just from sheer stat-adjustment alone makes up for any mediocre ability. one can argue that lucario's adaptability makes up for the meh stat-spread, but the Z-form is so much better in terms of stat-distribution that i'd argue it's just a straight improvement. again, unless the ability is outright negative.
>>59256146Contrary is balanced by the fact that the best Contrary mon is fucking Serperior.
>>59256481Absol is the only one we can safely say is better. Lucario will be more like a sidegrade since it's focused on special attack only, and Garchomp needs a good ability since mono Dragon is garbage and its attack stats are awkwardly mixed.
>>59256183How many losses in a low do you guys reckon I could get with this?
Has anyone played with the idea of a bulky support Kleavor? Like stone axe tailwind? Stone axe seems like crazy value if you can get it off
https://www.youtube.com/live/Ft39ke_ai3wLA Regionals Day 1 just began, one of the last Reg I tournaments. James Baek and Riley Factura is round 1.Indianapolis at the end of May is our first Champions event.
How do you guys deal with Mega Lopunny? It's a problem for my team.
>>59256514Enamorous gets it. It's base attack isn't that bad. After superpower and intimidate from Incineroar you'd be at +2 attack and +1 def with 120 power superpower you can spam.
>every gengar I ever play against has canceled my 1st move without fail>decide to finally play around that for this 1 particular match cause I don't want my mon's only effective move against it to get blocked>he doesn't block anything so I end up wasting my 1st attack instead of using a super effective move twice and I loseI wish they had never made this stupid shit then I wouldn't be so addicted even though all I ever do is lose
>>59256557It's pretty frail and sucks against most things that resist Fighting since it has no good Normal STAB
>>59256557Same answer to sneasler, Noivern with psychic.I wish I could fint in dragon cheer to do the scope lens draco meteor meme with kommo-o
>>59256519lucario is absolutely not a sidegrade. it has better special moves and is one of the very few fighting types that can use the special moves effectively, but the normal mega splits the stats up way too much. if you want a physical fighting type, you can just go for sneasler instead because that's outright just better than most megas. or one of the other good fighting types. but special fighting types are rare to come by.
>Green's Eevee and Mewtwo are actually super OP
>>59256595We don't have any idea what you're talking about.
>>59256514Not for long...Ah fuck it, keeping Contrary will just doom this guyMaybe it'll get that much coveted Trick Room setter ability to make up for those paltry stats
>>59256599There is no way they don't give Malamar the Scovillain treatment with a new ability to make up for it's bizarre stat spread.
>>59256673>weaknesses and resistances are inverted when this pokemon is on the field
>>59256535I've thought about him, but never ended up finishing the team. Bulky could maybe work with Passho, but I was just gonna go with Sash.
>>59256592Mega Lucario is currently used almost exclusively as a physical attacker, so yes the Z mega will be a sidegrade regardless of how much better of a special attacker it is.
Not exactly Champions related but I suppose you guys are the biggest users of Home. If I have a Corviknight from GTS/Pokemon Sword transferred into Home, and then I transfer that same Corviknight into Z-A without the Mega Dimensions DLC, would I be able to use it or will it be locked until I buy the DLC? Technically a Corviknight should not exist in a base Z-A game without the DLC.
>>59256696I think it would work the same as S/V dlc where you can bring DLC mons into the game without owning it.You just aren't getting dex completion, but don't take my word for it because I'm probably wrong.
>>59256696I assume you'd need the dlc, I cant bring a shiny fug from go into violet without the dlc so I doubt they'd change that with za
>>59256696>would I be able to use itYes.
>>59256696All the games with dlc (SWSH, SV, ZA) you can freely trade for dlc mons without needing the dlc itself.
>>59256705That's due to GO's restrictions
>>59256599There's honestly a decent chance it's keeping Contrary and being given Psycho Boost. I don't know why else they'd give +30 to its terrible special attack
Why the hell are they still hosting regionals with SV? I thought they where supposed to fully switch to Champions in April?
>>59256599Mega Malamar is bulkier and a little faster so I don't think the new ability is going to be quite as good as Spicy Spray, and auto Trick Room setter is too good though so I don't think it can be that.
>>59256751It always takes a while to transition to a new game, first Champions regional is on May 29
>>59256751Imagine if they had switched to Champions immediately, given people no prep, and then had all those bugs like mega evolving order, switching order, fake out not flinching, unnerve not working properly, etcEarly Champions was undercooked.
What a play, imprison pulled the uno reverso.Go Groudon.
Just won a match thanks to bright powder sand veil gliscor dodging 4 leech seeds from a mega venasaur in 1 game, causing the other guy to forfeit.Feels good to be rnjesus sometimes
>Encounter my first Snorlax Hawlucha>Guy runs out of Your TimeThis will be my strategy going forward
luv me jelly when i have to deal with slow stall-ish shit in singles
reminder: the existence of hax means this isn't a real competitive game. it is a children's toy. this is no more competitive than a game of coin flipping.
I hadn't watched SV VGC until recently, Champions does seem to look better visually at least. Would you guys say Champions looks better than most of the post gen 6 games?
>>59256586Noivern is cool, I'll see if I can add them to my singles team. Any other Noivern tech to know about, or should I just go with what's most popular?
>>59256809Yes, but being only 30fps for no apparent reason hurts Champions' visuals.
>checking Mega Meganium>+10 went into AttackAh yes, I guess it didn't need the speed and that opens it up to mixed or even physical builds
Is sableye just the best screen setter right now? At the very worst he's always gonna get at least 1 off
>>59256823Most megas get wasted stats in the wrong attack. Every ZA starter gets 10 points wasted. Glimmora got fucking 35 into attack.
>>59256827Screens will never be as good as Aurora Veil but he's a close second
>yfw sylveon miss hyper beam on a scale broken dragonite twice
>>59256823>Only 10 wasted pointsHe's one of the lucky ones.>>59256827Klefki's a decent sidegrade with better stats all around
>>59256823they just love putting wasted points into megas, you can check all the megas and the majority have wasted stat points somewhere. sometimes they'll even take from a useful stat only to dump half those points into something useless
>>59256542>Giratina spotted
>>59256702>>59256705>>59256707>>59256711Thanks senpai
>>59256842>Scolipede is a mon known for its blistering speed and Speed Boost>Mega cuts its speed by 50 and increases SpA by 20Thanks Game Freak very cool
>>59256557Lol just hit it with literally anything and don't protect or use setup moves unless you have trick room up. It's dogshit.
>>59256881Just don't mega right away, do a couple protects and then mega so you should still be speedy. It's obviously shit though.
>>59256842This shit is beyond retarded in 2026 and we can see it directly contribute to certain megas being noticeably worse
>>59256881You're supposed to farm speed boosts in base form.
>>59256842You'd think with all the very blatant stat minmaxing Hisui forms get over their originals the new Megas would be offered the same courtesy
>>59256910Gen 9 and the paradox pokemon especially was so minmaxed that I thought that was going to be standard. We've got megas that are substantially worse than any paradoxes now.
>>59256893I should have mentioned I was talking about singles, Lopunny has been easy to handle in doubles. Singles is just for fun, so my team isn't as optimized as it could be.
>>59256910Sorry, only shillmon get that privilege.
>>59254961Zamn Champions looks like THAT?
>>59256946Imagine if Champions had costumes/skins for mons.
>>59256948>More micro transactions No thanks
>>59256950I can't be assed to care about cosmetics, if GF wants to do them then they should, but that battle pass was dogcrap value by any standard.
Alright, doubles is gay and has too much faggot setup I don't care about, I'm not autistic enough to get too into this shit. I had basically a joke team that revolved around Mega Lopunny that carried me to Master Ball in singles almost entirely because everyone else depended on Garchomp to win their games for them.But now everyone's running Volcarona, and I quite simply do not have anything to deal with it. I was using a Palafin until it was completely useless, but I guess water Pokemon can get burned, so it gets fucked by flame body. I used that Machamp they gave us as a goof just to fuck it up with Stone Edge, but I feel like I need some special attacker that can throw rocks at it.So am I stuck just getting a Glimmora or something gay just to deal with some overused bug? Why can water and probably fire Pokemon be burned, but poison types can't be poisoned? Why cant the autists stick to doubles where they can spend their full minute trying to decide if they're gonna protect or not instead?
>>59257001Why are you here?
>>59257009Volcarona counters and to bitch about this gay ass game for autists while I hop on and play like 1-4 matches a day.
>>59257001I don't think fire pokemon can be burned.
>>59257018But water can? Burning is so busted, water should be immune to it at least, for the sake of it making sense. Especially since there are Pokemon that can burn you just by you hitting them.
>>59257001sneaky pebbles does half to the bug on switch in, just get a rock setter
>>59257020Burn used to deal more damage than regular Poison so trying to Swords Dance it off was pretty much futile
>>59257028I was using rock Scyther I forgot the name of and I refuse to look it up. All I was doing with it was hitting with that move that slices and sets up stealth rock, then using tailwind before it died. It seemed like a waste of a slot so I swapped it out like two ranks ago.
>>59257042lots of pokemon get stealth rock, and its common in singles to have a lead that sets them. just have a guy made for setting them up if you see something like charizard or volcarona on the enemy team so they take a ton of damage on switch in
>stuck in Great 4 before the season endsI'm quitting after this season
>>59257001Use Araquanid a lot of people don't realize what it can do
>>59257054just get in there earlier next season
>>59257051Doesn't really matter if he's also my rock attacker and he's now burned and can't kill the stupid fuckin' thing 'cause burn is the most busted status in the game that cripples physical attackers. Flame body on one of the bulkiest pieces of shit in the game with only one real weakness is fucked up and hopefully it's not permanent.>>59257061I'm trying to avoid using ugly garbage I hate, but if I get it in one of my daily recruits, I might pick it up. If it's even in this game, I've never seen it.
>lead with ZardY + Aerodatcyl>they lead with Sableye + M-Gengar>zardY Weather Ball & Tail Wind. ZardY got faked out and Gengar set Song>weather ball at Sableye. Aerodatcyl got forced into Encore and M-Gengar used Protect>M-Gengar switches outHow could I have played around this? Switch in a ghost type before the mega transformation?
>>59257032No it didn't, it did the same amount.
>>59257073Why did you not just attack with Aero?
>>59257073you CANNOT do tailwind or protect in front of a Sableye, you needed to do Rock Slide with Aerodactyl and swap out Charizard immediately.
>>59257073Don't make that lead into gengar.Sableye will have encore on a gengar team. Don't set up tailwind, especially when you didn't need it in that situation. Just hit them as hard as possible.
>>59257074Oh I mixed it up. Burn was nerfed to do 1/16 damage in Gen 9 though while Poison still does 1/8
>>59257073gengar sableye chad hereyou should never click a non attack move while sableye is on the field unless dark type or farigiraf
>>59257001>People are finally starting to use VolcaronaKinda based, it helped me climb to masterball in doubles like 3 weeks ago. Haven't tried it in singles at all since I'd need to completely retrain it.
>>59257120I assume it gets fucked up by Garchomp so since everyone uses it I assume it'll eat shit in singles, normally, but for someone like me specifically who doesn't like using things I find ugly or annoying or both, Volcarona shuts down everything I like. So now because of this shit bug I have to add something I hate on my team explicitly to deal with this piece of shit.
this game is making me lose my mindfeels like 30 games now that im stuck in singles ultra 1 because im unlucky, always 1 win away from masterball and then going back down to 0 also holy fuck is this cancer >priority this>priority that>fake out times 50>extreme speed dragonite with a spA set>aqua jet primarina >fucking dolphin 100 to 0 with prioritygo fucking die with priority this is the reason i cant do doubles without farigiraf
>>59257131I used a Bold max Def and spammed rage powder to cuck Gambit and Archie but I'd imagine most of the ones in singles would be offensive and try to quiver dance. I don't know what your team is but honestly any physical attacker with access to a Rock Tomb should be enough.
>>59257149I said earlier that I basically bumbled into master rank with what is essentially a joke team. Mega Lopunny, Meowscarada, Sneasler, Mega Delphox, Palafin, and Gallade. Palafin got swapped out a lot since it rarely got used, usually with Kleavor or Kingambit.
I've lost about 20 games in a row at this point. I need a team that works.I need a team that people are just not as prepared for.
Do we know what is happening when the season ends?New mons?Ladder reset?New Battlepass (presumably)
>>59257090Sableye is the most fucked up 'mon in existence lol.
>>59257230SableyeMega VenusaurArchaludonPelipperKingambitBasculegion
>>59257255I'll try it.
>>59256014I just wanna make it work. Also I'd rather fuck Dragapult
>>59256165Missed too many times or didn't hit enough for me so I removed it from my team
>>59257239- No new mons- Probably a new ladder placement based on your placement the previous month- New battle pass is Gengar, Kangaskhan and Skarmory. Nothing noteworthy except some exclusive clothing.What we may get are new items (the current ruleset has no stipulations about items, only Pokemon, and we know the next season is the same ruleset) and other stuff like new music in the shop. A lot of people have probably bought everything noteworthy in the shop besides every clothing recolor, so they really do need to add some more stuff in there.
Man, fuck that stupid bridge.
>>59257239Likely new mons. They've already said they plan to add more each season. I assume more of the missing megas.New held items. There are screenshots from japanese magazines from last month showing stuff like weakness policy and black sludge.
>>59257330And it's even worse in SV with Body PressJust like Dire Claw being 50% proc
>>59257330Can't believe out of all the mons to not cut they kept this pos in
>>59257255>>59257261>Change all the moves I need for Venusaur>Champions shows that it has Sleep Powder and False SwipeI only got the one. I could have swore I saw it skip a turn for one of my pokemon that was going to die but I thought I was seeing things. Is champions a fucking buggy mess? Or is this intentional so I have to play their game more to get points?
>>59257360>do it again>it still has false swipe/sleep powder
>>59257360The fuck are you talking about? False Swipe isn't even a usable move in Champions.
>>59257377I'm moving it from my copy of Scarlet via home. I've changed all of them in that game to save on the point spending in champions for the EV's. But the game keeps giving me the old move set.
>>59257382Never had that issue. Is the Venusaur originally caught in SV?
>>59257387Yes, in home it shows Protect, Giga Drain, Earth Power, Sludge Bomb. So maybe it's something with their servers?
>>59257360>>59257382Did you already have it in Champions before moving it back to Scarlet?
>>59257403Archaludon has, it's also showing its previous move set. But it's a first time for Venusaur.
>>59257323New items didn't even occur to me haha.New stuff in the shop makes sense as well.>>59257334I guess new items in the shop could mean new megas as well.
>>59257330I love it. I run Focus Blast on a mon that baits it out so it's usually a free kill.
>>59257330>they can create overspec’d horseshit like the bridge and gambit but can’t be assed to make megas goodSurely their balancing will fix it
Maybe this was the relevant place to post this instead of a thread.Adamant fullybattack invested Morpeko Aura Wheel one shots:Mega FroslassMega GengarMega Charizard-YMega StarmieMega AerodactylMega HawluchaMega SkarmoryMega BeedrillMega PidgeotMega AlakazamMega PinsirMega SableyeMega BanetteMega SharpedoMega ChimechoMega GolurkMega MeowsticMega Greninja
This is the only official info we have in regards to seasons and regulations.
>>59257587*one shots every other turn
>>59257587>Knocking out frail offensive Megas Is this supposed to be impressive?
>>59257603Yes but you use sash 100% of the time and have fake out/protect.
>>59254961poke gardevoir belly
>>59257587You know a mon sucks ass when you list one shotting Beedrill as an accomplishment.
>>59257604Not many Pokémon can one shot the same quantity and Aura Wheel speed snowballs fast if you've been in for a turn.Probably in MB3+ people actually target it, but I think outside of that people don't think the little mouse with shit stats can knock them out. They might throw a half assed attack at it but you get sashed.
>>59257629Yeah I damage calced all of the available megas on the entire list so Beedrill is one of them. I've been playing casual battle doubles and was surprised by how many things it takes down in one hit.I don't think I would take it to ranked but it's not a complete write-off either. There might be a really niche tek for a really specific build where it's good. It's support movepool is surprisingly decent.
>>59257587Based
I FUCKING HATE THAT EVERYTIME I PROTECT WITH AERO THEY IGNORE IT AND WHEN I DON'T PROTECT AERO THEY GO ALL IN ON IT.FUCK OFF
>>59257595do we know what the "final season rewards" are. the last thing I need is more VP.
>>59257710It's more VP.
>>59257675Here are some weird things you can do:1) If you use Charge in Hangry Mode, your next Aura Wheel will be 220 power with 100% accuracy. If the opponent double protects you can encore protect with a partner.2) You can Super Fang an Archaludon down to half health then finish it with Venusaur's Earth Power I think?3) You can Aura Wheel, get sashed, then use your now high speed Endeavour and Quick Attack mog them like the good old days.4) You can flatter a special attacker with a berry to give them +2 SpA. Or you can Swagger an ally with the berry for the +2 in Attack.5) Quash, to do what Quash does. After aura wheel you're pretty quick.6) Fake Out and Parting Shot like Incineroar.7) Eerie impulse to screw enemy threat, or double boost something with Contrary like Enamorous.8) Baton pass your Aura Wheel speed boosts like Espathra.
>>59257710Well youre getting more vp
>>59257710Bitch I have literally 2 VP. Have you not been schizophrenically doing the gacha over and over and permanently recruiting everything?
>>59257719What is weird about these things?
>>59257740That you get a 220 base power STAB move with 100% accuracy if you Charge. The rest, just that you get so many options on something with zero use.
>>59257723I trial recruit and only perma recruit when I want to use one
>>59257723I have Pokemon HOME.
>>59256533Update: I made this team and won my first game. It was against a jap and it was a 15+ turn grindfest where milo and venu sat on the field and refused to die. It was very funny.
I give up im just gonna play meta teams. This game is insufferable and I can't bring myself to stop playing till I hit master
>Encore Araquanid into Mirror Coat>Kalm>Accidentally Earth Power the wrong slot into the Araquanid locked into Mirror Coat>Panic>They swap it out and bring in Heliolisk>KalmI wonder if they thought I made a read when I just clicked the wrong button.
>>59257806What's your team? Hitting Master itself isn't the hard part for most people so long as they have a competent team, even with non-meta mons.
>>59257806https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqOkNSpYfnkWhy you can't do this?
>>59254961How long has Tailwind only lasted 4 turns?
>>59257882Gen 5.
>>59257885WHAT?I SWEAR IT WAS 5 TURNS IN SV
>>59257887You're goin CRAZY anon
>>59257895It was never 5?The hell?
>>59257899Maybe you got it mixed up in your mind with the Room/Terrain/Weather moves? Those all last 5 turns each without an extension item.
>>59257901I guess I just assumed it would've been 5.Are there any ways for it to be extended? Because I've had battles where it seemed to never end.
>>59257906Nope. Four turns and no longer.
>Draft mode>pay 5,000 VP to enter>select three Pokemon from the recruit lineup, then another 3 from a different selection>you then use the 5,000 VP entry fee to edit your team (can't get perfect sets on everyone unless you get really good pulls)>battle until 3 losses or 9 wins; more rewards based on number of wins>for every 3 wins, you get the option to keep one of the Pokemon you've drafted once you finish your runThey will never, though.
>paralysis proccing on the opponent preventing his protect when that was my only out before losing to Perish Song>also failed his 1/3 to double protect on his other monAbsolutely delicious, done playing for today, it can't get any better than this.
>>59257911That would require them to do something that would add to the game instead of what they actually doing, which is desperately programming the mobile version.
People who should hang themselves:Entrainment playersIncin playersPalafin playersArchaladon playersYou.
>>59257926>which is desperately programming the mobile version.Game is finished. They are spending the extra time on the mobile version to make as much money off it as possible. Why do you think there is so little to spend money on in the store currently? They are gathering data from the Switch version so they know exactly what type of microtransactions to fill the mobile version with.
>>59257927Who the hell is crying about Palafin when Basculegion exists?
>>59257927If the game is trash, I may as well be the dumpster. Archaludon is legit for mouthbreathing apes.
>>59257927Palafin lol what?
>>59257927Bro got slimed by some dream meme team.
>>59257927If you're running prankster Encore you NEED to off yourself
>think I'm going to lose during the battle>end up winningI don't know what the fuck is going on anymore.
>>59257908Damn. I've only ever noticed that whenever I use it.
Best way to take down Archaludon+Sableye with minimal risk?
>>59257970Blastoise Aura Sphere.
>>59257587>oh it one shots all these mons*>*assuming there's little to no phys defence investment
>>59257970Floette and a brick break user
>>59257587>mega sableyeHandOnShoulder.jpg
>>59257970use your own sableye to incapitate the bridge and use your floette to deal with both
>>59257054Senpai you'll get better. It sounds like you just need to copy a team, if your stuck in greatball your team is probably ass. I got to masters on an alt literally just spamming rockslide with aero and megagrenigger.
>>59257980In casual doubles it has one shotted Froslass, Gengarr, Golurk (which has decent defence), Zard. Haven't encountered the others or been in position to Aura Farm them yet. I know for quite a few calcs it's still OHKO if you invest bulk.I think the animation is glitched when you Aura Farm Wheel against Mega Gengar too. You hit it so hard it goes through the ground.
omg my mudsdale just one-shotted charizard y with rock slidethis mon is so underrated
>>59258007basically every mon that learns a rock move can ohko zard
>>59258004If you ohkod a golurk, then you ran into an idiot who wasn't running bulk on his 55 base speed trick room threat. Also someone who doesn't know how to click protect.
>>59257895Meanwhile, here I am thinking it only lasted two turns and was shocked it lasted like 3/4ths of a match the first time I saw it used.
I keep tricking archaludons into using electro shot into gyarados with manatric on the field.Its funny shit. I had one guy do it twice in a row.
>>59255687They specifically designed Brute Bonnet's base stats so that it's Speed will NEVER be higher than it's Attack so that it can't get Booster Energy Speed to activate for Spore spamming. It's funny shit
stop healing motherfuckeeeeeeer kill me or kys
>>59256165OvergrowFocus SashFlower TrickKnock OffSucker PunchProtectThis is the set I prefer running on her
>>59255542So that Reg M-B can be a big shake-up for NAIC and Worlds.
Pain Split should work through Protect
>>59258007It's slow and has no good doubles support moves though. It's not bad though it's on a few serious teams, I've seen James Baek use it on a team IIRC.
>>59257970Non prankster Taunt and special attackers with setup. Calm Mind Floette + Maushold does well.
>>59254961Singles team with Vivillon?
>>59258159Focus Sash + Support moves and U-turn to pivot. Anything else after that
Any interesting teams from those tournaments posted earlier?
>>59258203pokedata.ovh That will get you Day 1 results from LA regional.I didn't follow up with the Malaysia tournament like I should have and I have no idea where to find teams and results, but here's day 2 still live:https://www.youtube.com/live/kvzXAZjlgtg
>>59258214Basculegion just dying from everything ae usual.
>>59257723I am only using the free gift mons from the start and I don't change my sets like an ADHD kid. I also only do the free trial recruit once every day.
>>59258214Everyone playing as girls.
>>59258214How do i find these tournaments? Damn I could have joined this.
>>59258261https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/upcoming?game=VGCLot of them are from here
New bread. Move when ready.>>59258309>>59258309>>59258309
Singles are full of slow players
>>59258351bring a bunch of wallbreakers for the stall players
>>59258272Thanks my friend
>>59256809Best looking pokemon game on Switch by far, a shame they didn't at least make it 60fps when running on a Switch 2
Using Archaludon should be punishable by castration.It's nothing but a fucking binary team composition check.Oh you didn't bring a mon dedicated to removing bridges and a mon to remove rain? Too fucking bad. Oh you brought your dedicated bridge demolisher and the other guy left it on the bench? Too bad!Shit like sneedler, incin, basculegion are all annoying small dick pokemon, but you can play around them even with bad matchups. I can't even imagine how much worse this thing was when it also had body press and terra
