Ummmm splitsisters? How do we explain this?
>this retard and her desperate crying>again
>Physical/Special split takes the problem of Powercreep and gives it a steroid injectionNo, you don’t understand, letting Garchomp use a 120 base power Outrage running off his Attack stat is a good thing.
>>59257379Cool, so how do I use Weavile in UU, RU, and NU?
I wish they never did the Physical Special split so we could all go through the collective humiliation ritual of bite being a Special move and some Pokémon like Absol having no STAB with their dominant attack stat.
>>59257385What kind of dumbfuck gotcha is this supposed to be?
>>59257374>>59257379can we skip it this week I'm trying to enjoy a nice day todayWe don't need to do this exact thread every week of the year, 51 weeks a year seems perfectly fine right? So let's just not post any more okay?And no one falls for aaanny bait right?
>>59257374Powercreep.
>>59257393The one spewed by a hideously autistic, vehemently immature so-called adult who has a mad her alakazam from gen 3 can't use its Sp. Attack stat to use elemental punches, because the elements got re-formatted in Gen 4 and everything made actual sense mechanically.
>>59257374Power creep with the new mons and moves while Sneasel still had a dogshit movepool.
>>59257374Gengar was better with Gen 1 shadow ball
Sneasel is BAD because I don't wnat to fuck it like Vaporeon.Vaporeon is the best.
>>59257390If at least pokemon got good moves to complement their best stat it wouldn't be a problem. Absol for example learned Swords Dance but their best attacks were Shadow Ball and Iron Tail. lmao
>>59257383you don't know what power creep is
>>59257374Close Combat
>>59257374Split has been here longer than it hasn’t. You lost :3
>>59257565Yawnfag losing is something that we all want.
>>59257565and yet Gen 3 OU and Hoenn Gaiden is tauted as the best of competitive pokemon, gee i sure wonder why
>>59257611He lost with Teraleak and has been on turbo asspain damage control given all of his arguments were fucking nonsense to begin with>>59257626Contrarian manchildren that refuse to let go of the past. If Smogon rulesets didn't exist you'd just be bitching about Kyogre being unkillable
>>59257496Do explain, since you’re the expert.
>>59257645Ice getting new resistances and fossil Pokemon getting buffs would be his personal Holocaust.
>>59257374Stealth Rocks, Bullet Punch Scizor, Close Combat, more Mach Punch abusers, all also got added in the generation and made the combination worse, and a new genuinely good Ice type with priority access and better bulk got introduced in the form of Mamoswine which gives Weavile competition as a physical attacker. If Weavile existed in Gen 3 it likely would have been OU, and if the split existed in Gen 3 Sneasel also likely would have been OU. The split objectively made both parts of the line easier to use their STAB with, but that's one factor amongst many.
>>59257385You can't. That's why tiers exist
>>59257401This. Ttar could now use it's Dark STAB effectively (plus other mons in similar situations.) Like Gengar now being able to use Ghost and Poison effectively.
>>59257678Ohhhh so Weavile has nothing to do with Sneasel being shit then and >>59257379 is just a retard. Good to know!
>>59257696No, it's also power creep. What >>59257670 says is accurate.
>>59257692>Ttar could now use it's Dark STAB effectively>nowlolwhat? TTar has good base SpA. It was always able to run mixed sets, especially Pursuit for catching Gengar and Latis.
>>59257385It's truly shocking how hard this throws retarded zoomers for a loop.
>>59257626You can have a million people say the same thing but the split is here to stay :)
>>59257702>No, it's also power creepOhhhh so the split has nothing to do with Sneasel's viability then. Good to know!
fyi this entire thread is dismantled by just reading a littlehttps://www.smogon.com/dex/dp/pokemon/sneasel/uu/sneasel's usage is low enough to be in PU but has plenty of ways to still be threatening in UUi'm trying to bait replies to see if hoenn gaiden for cobblemon could be achievable but in hindsight i guess not mainly because of accounting for items
>>59257650power creep is when new additions to the roster of a game or series make old ones obsolete due to a steady increase in the general strength or utility of each entrant
Are there really people who fully genuinely say the Physical Special split was a bad thing, no baiting or shitposting?Geez, human beings can be stupid.
>>59257845It's almost as if Yawnfag is a disingenuous faggot.
>>59257374Hidden power. Losing hidden power hurt a lot of physical mons that had limited coverage, something now true for special mons as well.
>>59257841If the power wasn't crept, Sneasel would be objectively better in Gen 4, though still inferior to Weavile.
>>59257845>sneasel's usage is low enough to be in PUBecause it sucks and the split didn't actually help it, yeah.
>>59257875Unrelated to Kojo but why the fuck did they not make a physical Hidden Power because of this? Like Masuda had the foresight to make Giga Impact because of Hyper Beam's change but he didn't have the foresight that the more important move needed a physical counterpart?
>>59257890It would give physical Electric type Pokemon something to resemble coverage and that would be too oppressive for poor little Archaludon :(
>>59257374not a single rebuttal to this itt thus far
>the split changed nothing>the split ruined the game>the split made everyone stronger but that changed nothing>the split made pokemon worseKojo argues all these points at once
>>59257626By who? Some trannies?
It's one the few mons that was powercrept so vadly that the split couldn't save it
>>59258450If it changed nothing then it didn't ruin the games while also not making Pokemon worse nor stronger.If it made Pokemon stronger it didn't make Pokemon worse, while also not doing "nothing".If it made Pokemon worse then it didn't make Pokemon stronger, while also not doing "nothing".If the split ruined the game, then it did something as opposed to nothing.Now how do I teach Shadow Ball to my Gengar in gen 1, Kojo?
>>59257374https://www.smogon.com/dex/dp/pokemon/sneasel/uu/it's honestly really funny nobody even pointed out that sneasel is viable in smogon dpp uu and this thread wasbuilt on a false premise
>>59257374What are you talking about, I don't understand? Kingler had insanely high attack lol.
>>59257626Because of power creep.Hoenn + split would be perfect.
>>59257385How do you use Sneasel in Gen 3 PU?
>>59257374Funnily enough, Sneasel was actually pretty solid as a lead in Gen 4 UU before Froslass got banned.
>>59259457>Hoenn + power creep would be perfect.
>>59259583you don’t know what power creep is
>>59259583Sorry, I meant Sinnoh - Power Creep would be perfect.
>>59257379Fpbp
>>59259610Cool, so how do I use Weavile in UU, RU, and NU?
>>59259583They already added Kyogre
>>59259619Why do you care about Smogon if it's for Campaignshitters? Don't you play VGC?
>>59259619>>59258558
>>59259634>dodging the question
As in every iteration of this thread, the split just makes sense and that's the end of the discussion
>>59259644>Sacred Fire being a physical move makes sense
>>59259659>Bite being a special attack makes sense
>>59257374Does anyone else feel like the greenish black from gen 3 looked better on Sneasel than the blueish black from gen 4+
>>59259674Yes, it makes sense, because it's a Dark type move, and Dark type is special.
>>59259638>>59257678
>>59259685You're special.
>>59259713>>59257696
>>59259721>>59259638>>59259619>>59258558please keep up, I'm not sure why you think everything needs to be spoonfed to you, but your thread is started on a false premise.
Have people realized yet that Yawnfag doesn't have opinions on anything?He just asks for yours and then shuts it down, doesn't even refute it, just spams some one liner without elaboration like >>59257385
