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End of the Season Edition

Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch with a mobile release later. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.

>News
First Season ends on May 12th.
Mobile release possibly leaked for June: https://xcancel.com/CentroLeaks/status/2041378934739108104

>Resources and useful links
Community Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/
Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/en
New Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):
https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)

Quick FAQ
>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?
No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.
>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?
All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.
Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.
>Is there single player content?
No.
>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?
No.
>What's the starter pack?
US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music.
>Is anything locked behind a paywall?
So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Mega Kalos starters and E-Floette require ZA transfer.

>/pcg/ OP pastebin
https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPh

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>>59261759
You DID make it to Master Ball, right anon?
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>>59261761
no
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>>59261761
Only in doubles 3v3 is such a meme format.
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>first game
>completely dismantle the cybertron rain meme team
>second game
>turn one protect + heat wave miss
>turn two protect + heat wave miss
cool
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>>59261761
Course, didn't get past master ball 3 however due to a mix of being bad and starting to use meme teams
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>>59261761
Just Singles because I'm a mental patient. Been playing doubles for dailies but I really can't be assed to rank grind even if I'm in Ultra Ball right now.
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>>59261761
No, I lost too many coin flips
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>>59261761
Yeah it wasn't hard, only took me two days. But I haven't gone higher than masterball 3.
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Lets see who makes it to Master next season now that the casual players were filtered completely off the game.
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>>59261761
I am in Master Ball in both singles and doubles. I am top 20,000 in doubles but anytime I try to push further I'll end up on a losing streak and then have to crawl my way back to where I was.
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>>59261761
Yep i wanted to do it with a bunch of my favorites in a very unstructured team and i did but afterwards i kinda stopped playing.
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>>59261761
Yeah. I even made this fat CHUD belly drum in hell.
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>>59261814
There's still an absurd number of bots up till Low Ultra Ball, some of which are 100% botted accounts just there to grind to Master Ball.
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My electroweb missed 3 times in a row in a double battle. No buffs or debuffs. Kingambit had a berry and Mega Banette goes without saying, but I never confirmed Incineroar's item before it died. Of course the move hit at least one of the opposing Pokemon each time.

What are the odds of this? 1/8000? Am I missing something? Is Champions just bugged or am I massively unlucky?
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>>59261761
I hit masterball within the first 3 days of play, haven't gotten past master ball 2 though.
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>read through these threads and see so many people arguing that Pokemon is a skill-based game
>watch any of the VGC World Championships and witness 400 Sucker Punch coin flips deciding games
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>>59261761
Nope
Couldn’t play for 3 weeks now I’m stuck in ultra ball hell
I don’t have enough free time
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Is there a bug about dragging out the timer and making the opponent hit themselves? Saw something like that on xitter.
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>My quarter came up heads 3 times in a row in a flipping battle. What are the odds of this? Am I missing something? Is real life bugged or am I massively unlucky?
There's more bait than water in the ocean at this point.
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Is Phantom Force the best Ghost move that Dragapult has access to? Shadow Ball seems too weak.
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When I win, this is a game of skill and I am simply better. When I lose, it's a bullshit game of chance for babies that rewards idiots. Simple as.
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>>59261967
Yes, because a 95% chance and a 50% chance are the same thing. Thanks for being a massive retard. Not to mention there are items and abilities that affect accuracy. God forbid I try to the learn the game and ask questions. Genuinely kill yourself for being such a sourpuss and colossal fag.
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>>59261971
Yes. It does hit through protect but >two turn. Shadow ball is using its lower stat, even if it has much, much more coverage for it.
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>>59261759
Green > Ionowhore
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https://victoryroad.pro/vr-may26-2/
Find me a more powerful mega than Zard Y. You can't.
Seriously though, what composition do you think wins Indianapolis and NAIC?
Is Worlds going to be reg MA still?
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>>59262015
I'm always happy to see an enemy charizard. I accidentally built my team to fuck them up.
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>>59262020
Is your team topping the tournaments?
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>>59262023
No, the people aren't ready to accept ampharos as meta yet and I'm too lazy to do tournaments :)
Keep playing charizard into me though because I like it
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>>59261761
Nope, weak-willed and stuck in Ultra 2. Every two wins was immediately followed by two losses, and I was unwilling to drop my Pokemon I committed to using.

Crashed out, deleted the game and Home icon, and picked up some other games to relax with. Currently playing FF12 first time. It's nice.
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>>59262038
>Crashed out, deleted the game and Home icon
What a huge baby. Weird that you are still coming to this thread though huh?
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>>59262041
I was curious what the new abilities were so I could shitpost about them.
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>>59262037
People much better than you have thought about Ampharos already.
Mega Glimmora on the other hand likely has some good lines into the current hotness.
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>>59261975
The first thing they taught me at Calculus and Probabilities at uni is that probability is extremely relative and no matter the odds, something may happen. You were very unlucky.
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>>59261967
A French guy just got his title stolen from him by a 5% chance to miss. The opponent then easily landed the thing with a much higher chance to miss. Then won the tournament as a result.

The best player at the tournament was the French guy and people are acting like we're meant to believe it was the black dude, who got lucky and won a less than 5% chance dice roll (because he had to get that miss AND then land his own not fully accurate move).
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>>59262045
There's no such thing as "much better" in Pokemon. You cannot be "better" at flipping a coin.
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>>59262015
Worlds will likely be in reg MB. We'll see what that entails.
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>>59262045
The teammates that would make it good aren't the best picks right now. Next season it can change.

I believe Plus and Minus ability SpA boost, and magnet boost, stack, by the way.
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>>59262057
Damage output isn't Amphy's problem.
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>>59262045
I'm not sure where you discovered this sense of authority, but you clearly don't deserve it.
Stay in your meta box and keep crying about zard
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>>59262083
Enter tournies and find out.
I don't have to appeal to any authority other than results, nigger. Your anecdotal experience isn't beating the likes of Paul Chua, what's his elo?
What's yours?
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>>59262102
I never said any mega was better than char y. I was just happy its popular because my team wrecks it.
You created an argument out of literally nothing
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>>59262038
Based, love me ff12. My favourite mainline final fantasy.
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Prove you aren't shit. Post a team you made yourself that wins games.
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>>59261761
Just made it last night with ya boi

Tonight I make a mad dash for Singles, gonna try Ditto faggotry
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>>59261759
Green and I made it to Master rank together
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>>59261761
2 more wins if I don't lose. No balls to start a match really.
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>>59262149
post team
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>>59262105
>my ANTI-META team WRECKS the GAME
I was looking for people with serious answers about Bo3 ots tournaments and how they believe the meta will evolve.
If you look at how the central meta team has evolved, from the beginning when it was basic Zard-Venu(thank God that's over), to coil Milotic on Zard teams, to Zard-Floette, to Zard/Sylveon/Aero, to the VR2 results above.
Is there going to be something that can stop Tard Y from topping everything?
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>>59262163
>I was looking for people with serious answers about Bo3 ots tournaments
Where the hell do you think you are?
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Does the season end tonight or tomorrow night?
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>>59262163
idk because my team has three guys with rock slide and Zard Y is and always has been a free kill for me.
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>>59262197
This anon has got the secret sauce, ROCKS will beat the zard teams. No one has ever thought of this one weird AnTi-mEtA trick that makes these teams seethe.
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Turn 1, opponent puts out Whimsicott and Meowscarada against your TTar and Ceruledge.

What is your opponent going to do and what should you do? I guarantee you answer incorrectly as to how it actually played out.
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>>59262235
i double protect
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>>59262235
Trick room + tailwind
Nailed it in one
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>>59262238
You didn't answer as to what your opponent would be doing.
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>>59262243
i dont look at what my opponent is doing
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>>59262247
I accept your concession.
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>>59262163
Green and I won at this game and got in the top 25k.
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>>59262235
Low Kick TTar and Tailwind
Protect with TTar Bitter Blade into the Whimsicott
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My love for Green makes me strong
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>>59262235
Why am I leading two Pokemon with no speed control? Anyway I protect with Ttar and switch into Incin
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>>59262235
Meow knocks off ceruledge, you protect Ttar because you're a poosy.
Whims protects then encores Ttar next turn.
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>>59262265
Whims can’t encore Ttar fucking retard
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>>59262235
Whimsicott will put up Reflect because Meowscarada does not need speed support here and they're both weak to fire. They're planning to use Encore on you next turn if you dared to protect.

Meowscarada wants to get rid of Ceruledge asap but isn't afraid of Shadow Sneak and it might not be able to resist using a fighting type move on Tyranitar. However the opponent believes there's a good chance your Tyranitar will do a Protect despite the presence of Whimsicott, because they predict you will be hoping Ceruledge can do 99% to it on turn one and that your Sandstorm will finish it off.
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>>59262268
It's chlorophyll.
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As I said, none of you would get it.

The answer was, for some reason: They tailwind with Whimsicott and use Flower Trick on TTar leaving both their Pokemon vulnerable to being OHKO'd by Ceruledge.
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>>59262276
Stop trying to appease this guy. He's just going to turn around and go
>Acckkkshuaaallly, the other player was retarded! Ha bet you couldn't predict that!
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>>59262268
She's Chlorophyll
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>>59262283
Maybe they just wanted to get the Critical Hit mission done
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>>59262283
They thought you'd predict a leg sweep on TTar and that you'd switch it out for Basculegion.
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>>59262283
Whimsicott is weakness policy and ev'd to survive two armor cannons
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>>59262283
Who did they have in the back to take advantage of Tailwind?
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>>59262283
They gambled you'd kill whims after it tailwinded and they might be able to trade that for ttar
Why are you so mad?
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>>59262283
I didn’t need to get it I put myself in an advantageous position no matter what they did with >>59262263
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>>59262283
And you didn't capitalize because you're a homo lol
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>>59262306
Armor cannon is Armarouge not Ceruledge, you peabrain!
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Green and I can get through anything.
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What if it was scarf ttar and iron ball meow? And the ttar clicked rock slide, but the meow used avalanche, then hits for double damage and follows up with triple axel next turn since it's protean and the whims used trick to take away the iron ball?
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i will figure out how to make arbok work
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Tilted two games in a row. Stupid fucking SASH Basculegion.
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>>59262350
When you do, let me know man.
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>>59262343
It was a zoroark using assist
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>>59262359
It's going to become even more common.
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>>59262350
There was a decent VGC Arbok in SV but I forget if it really needed Tera or not.
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>>59262308
Nobody. All of their Pokémon already outsped all but one of mine.

>>59262309
Why would Whimsicott ever be the priority kill there? I am not mad, I am baffled.

>>59262325
I won because they suicided their Meowscarada T1 with that play lol
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>>59262378
>I am not mad, I am baffled.
You've been doing this same line of winging for days anon. People can make mistakes, I don't know why this upsets you so much. Go play a kaizo mon game against the ai where you can be happy where everything that happens is expected
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>>59262389
>You've been doing this same line of winging for days anon.
Holy schizo. Are you under the impression every single post in these threads that talks about low % moments happening is the same person? Are you feeling okay?
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>>59262400
You are the same person.
Start screaming about rng and coin flips please.
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So is there still no way to get Delphoxite without buying PLZA?
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>>59262235
Just Rock Slide and Bitter Blade into the faggot fairy.
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>>59262413
You just need a Delphox that came from there, someone else can trade it to you.
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>>59262415
So basically, yes.
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I love Green
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>>59262413
You can trade for a delphox
But as someone who has used Delphox or Delphox 2 mega teams 90% of the time, it isn't great.
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>>59261761
I have competitive cold feet, so I’m an ultra shitter
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>>59262413
mite get dropped in the shop in a few days when the season restarts, who knows
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>>59262403
What the fuck are you babbling about? Go through the thread and quote every post that you think is from this spectre that so clearly haunts you. Give us all a good laugh.
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>>59262420
>trade
You can’t request pokemon by Origin Mark on GTS. I’m not gonna do the Greninja shuffle 90 times hoping to get a PLZA one, that shit is retarded.

Why is this company incapable of fighting the urge to engage in this kind of faggotry at some level EVERY FUCKING TIME
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>>59262428
No one is laughing in the same way the schizo green poster isn't being laughed at, it's fucking annoying.
No one gives a shit that "WOAH THIS CRAZY THING HAPPENED AND YOU'LL NEVER GUESS."
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>>59262422
It’s gone the entire season like this though? So all that means is Reg M-B will 100% do the same thing with Mega Raichu or whatever. Make sure to buy the latest title at full price, goy.
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>>59262370
Why do people sash it over scarf? I've got sash on Kingambit instead.
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>>59262429
I have spare Kalos starters in ZA but I'm too lazy to level them up. It was fun to play hide and seek with the Froakie and Delphox and backshot them.
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>>59262428
You had a multi hour crying session last thread about a froslass scenario you proposed just like your little whimsicott scenario here.
If you werent the same person you wouldn't be sperging out so hard trying to deny it.
>>59260223
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>>59262435
Sash pretty much ensures you can LR 2 opponent mons since it pretty much OHKOs anything that's not normal.
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>>59262436
Mean to say Fennekin, so fun playing hide and seek with them.
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>>59262361
its pretty good at being annoying! people disrespect it and ignore it while it gastro acids and snarls, does surprising damage too
i still lose though as i am also a master ball 4 shitter
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>>59262431
People talk about their gameplay of a game in a thread about said game??!!1?

>>59262441
Jesus Christ you really are a schizo haunted by some spectre. People discussing their anecdotal experiences must all be the same person? Insane stuff. Genuinely insane. Please do indulge me and quote all the posts in this thread that you think are this same spectre. I really want to see how deep your insanity runs now.
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>>59262456
That anon clocked you perfectly.
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>>59262442
But they probably outspeed you without the scarf, so they both attack and you're at 1 HP, and then they outspeed you so just finish you off anyway? What are the different scenarios? It's only a 78 base speed mon.
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So do we know what comes with the end of season 1 tomorrow? I'm hoping for some new Pokemon to spice things up. I'll be pissed if it's just a new BP.
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>>59262457
>That anon
The temptation to call samefag is strong, I'll admit, but then I'd just be another schizo kek.

So, arbiters of the Pokémon Champions general, what ARE we allowed to talk about that won't set you off on a mental breakdown?
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>>59262468
They are going to add in one more item
Room Service
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>>59262458
They can outspeed you with the scarf too.
>Tailwind
>Trick Room
>Any other common scarfer
>Sucker Punch
>Mega Aero
You also have the option of switching to Jet after LR
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Should I buy the battle pass and get the Emboar and Feraligatr plus stones?
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>>59262468
No idea, more items without more mons will cause serious problems such as making Arch truly unkillable.
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>>59262468
hot take
i kinda want them to keep the pool of pokemon small and cycle out this current roster for a new one
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>>59262441
You are sad and pathetic because I'm one of the other people pointing out this obvious fact and apparently he's me lmao.

People do this a lot. No they aren't all World's level champs, they're just slightly above average people, as proven by their ELO, and making mistakes due to that, and lucking into the scenario where the mistake actually swings it for them because the opponent saw the potential mistake and assumed you would never be so stupid as to not protect the slot.
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>>59262470
Frequently it's how you present the information.
Better to just tell us what happened rather than pretend like every opponent is a retard due to them misplaying or you not actually reading the situation correctly.
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>>59262471
PLEASE, I want to use my boy without scarfing him like a simpleton
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>>59262473
No
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>>59262472
But you get doubled up on? So you usually won't get to move before dying? Whereas with a scarf you might have taken out the biggest threat before it could move and eat an attack that won't actually kill, then finish the other?
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It cries out in pain as it attacks you
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>>59262480
What items would Ditto want besides Choice Scarf?
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>>59262473
The battle pass is absolute garbage, no one should buy it until they improve it
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>>59262490
How could they improve it though? Putting better battle tracks in it? They already paywalled Emboarite and Feraligite behind it but no one cared because they weren't meta.
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>>59262487
Sash, Room Service on TailRoom, or a Power item on hard Trick Room (though they'll probably never bother with the Power items and we'll have to make do with Iron Ball). I tried Quick Claw on my first Champions team; it wasn't worth it, but that team was also shit for other reaons.
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>>59262161
Shouldn't have queued, fuck.
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>>59262478
If I simply stated what had happened the post would've been entirely bypassed and ignored like 99% of the other posts ITT. Presenting the scenario as I did produced multiple replies, some jokes and a schizo freakout, but also some discussions that give an insight into how other people think and make decisions, what they see as their priority and what they see as threats, whether they are a proactive or reactive player etc. There is nothing interesting about a post saying "my opponent made a mistake". That's just a blogpost. Something that could simply remain nothing but a flicker of a thought across your own mind.
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>>59262496
>They already paywalled Emboarite and Feraligite behind it
No, they're in the shop.
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>>59262501
Yes we know, you are a troll baiting for replies. You are transparent
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>>59262496
They paywalled Delphoxite and I paid VP to build the team for it. Trying to extort us into buying an inferior product.
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>>59262496
Battle music is part of the membership not the pass, and Emboar/Feraligatr megas aren't paywalled, you can buy them for 2k VP. I would improve it with more exclusive cosmetics for a start.
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>>59262502
Oh you're right. Why the fuck did I think they were paywalled? I thought it was weird next battle pass was going to have non-paywalled Stones but that was always the case.
Yeah the battle pass sucks.
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They could add permanent box size increases to the paid battle pass
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>>59262506
>Noooo don't generate discussion about the game and player profiles and play patterns in my general about the game nooooo please just post "you DID make it master ball right?" and "Basculegion is good huh?" over and over again
Why the fuck this general is so afraid to dicusss the actual game is beyond me. Nobody posts teams, nobody discusses movesets, nobody talks about meta or anti-meta or even just their favourite Pokémon to shove into whatever team they're using. It's truly baffling. The closest we've got is someone saying they hate Basc with Sash. There's a reason those two posts generated more replies than any other post ITT apart from the master ball one.
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>>59262522
reddit seems more like your speed
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>wanted to squeeze into Champion just so my Shiny Goth Wife could get a special Title and I could put this shit down
>hard stuck in Master Ball 3
I have a job and a mouth to feed(a cat), so this shit is difficult.
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>>59262527
>noooo go to reddit if you want to talk about the game that you're in a general of nooooo
Christ alive. What are you even here for?
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>>59262522
Go hang out on the smogon forums dude.
This is pathetic. You aren't some mastermind provocateur generating meaningful discussion.
Every discussion you "generate" is just shitflinging and you sobbing about rng and people making mistakes.
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>>59262530
Champion tier is probably always going to be outside of my reach, but startibg early in the month is probably the best strategy so the ELO ceiling isn't so high.
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>>59262496
The only thing I'd expect from a paid BP is exclusive clothing and accessories that don't suck absolute ass. VP is handed out like candy and is infinitely farmable. How the fuck they dropped the ball on season 1 is ridiculous but so on brand for a Pokemon game.
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>>59262537
to tell people to go to reddit
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>>59262499
Who is still running that Zard Y team, it's like April 10th all over again.
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>>59262496
The only real thing they can put behind a paywall right now is cosmetics and music. If they start adding the more popular main series character outfits and hairstyles I think more people will go for it. They could start adding new hold items and Pokemon as early access to the battle pass but that's going to piss people off
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>>59262539
See: >>59262537
No matter how many times you accuse me of being the spectre that haunts you, it will never be true.
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what counters the fucking bunny on solos?

at least 5 of my last 10 rounds had her as mega and not only is it fast as fuck it also hits ghosts, has good coverage with neutral/fighting/ice and prio moves
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I really hate all the mega evolution nonsense and just want to fight in tourneys where its only normal pokemon. If i really wanted MEGA GUMBO JUMBO EXZYBA pokemon i'd just go play the TCG.

It will never not be funny watching all that hype and build up for a mega evolved pokemon just to be one tapped by ice beam immediately after.
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>>59262561
Corviknight
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>>59262562
Mega formats don't play any differently than regular pokemon.
Are you new?
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>>59262576
Its not really a huge ask for a separate playlist where megas and any other equivalent are turned off. Used to be industry standard at one point but now they just funnel everyone into the same queue.
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>>59262562
I hope when Tera drops they'll be open sheet info and visible from the selection screen
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>>59262580
It already takes brainlets in Master over 30 seconds to pick their 4 Pokemon. I don't need them taking longer so they can inspect every mon.
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>>59262496
More than one outfit would be a start, at the bare minimum they should have put the two ZA outfits in a single pass.
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Tera is the worst thing they ever came up with.
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What if you only need to pick your lead Pokemon in these official formats, then you're free to pick any other Pokemon from the rest of your team during battle but once you've sent out 3 in singles or 4 in doubles the rest of the team is locked out
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>>59262604
Too coinflippy
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fucking finally i was 1 win away from masters like 5 times and always went back to ultra 1 with 0 points due to being unlucky or facing gimmick shit i dont know

>>59262580
i hope tera never comes back its the fucking worst mechanic ever
literally gambling on weaknesses
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>>59262617
Tera was fine. If you had knowledge of the game then you generally knew which mon was getting the tera or you could play the game to force the tera out.
It is nice to play straight forward VGC again.
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>>59261761
No, I've been stuck in Ultra Ball 1 for three weeks and whenever I'm one slice away from promoting I lose to the dumbest bullshit. I've already tried to deliberately lose a couple of times and then attempt to promote using a streak to dodge the rigged last slice but I always just end up on the last slice and lose.
This game does not want me in master ball and I respect its opinion.
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>>59262633
I think all those matches are double promotion matches? Because the same happened to me for a while.
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>>59262617
Green and Me only got up to the top 200.
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>>59261761
I somehow managed it, yes! Didn't grind beyond rank 4 though. Just grinded the master title for pokemon I liked/thought it'd look cool on and called it a day. Settled on Ultra for singles though.
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>1st place is 2687
>100th place is 2508
>300th place is 2435
>I hit top 3000 at 2160
The elo gaps here are kinda crazy. You really can't just get a lucky run into Champion tier or even top 1000, it's where all the genuinely good consistent players are and it's much further away than it seems.
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>>59262719
huh. but i'm like 1900 and I'm top 3000.
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>>59262719
I might just get coaching. It seems like a game I might want to get genuinely super good at. It's very stressful playing ranked matches though ngl.
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>>59262722
I think that might say 30,000 anon...
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>>59262731
Waste of money unless you legit want to go to tournaments. You will also have to sift through all the grifters to actually find a good coach too.
Just play the game, watch others play the game and play till you plateau. Tehn decide if its worth it from there
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>>59262719
Naw anon, you just have to win the correct number of coin flips, it's all 50:50 and impossible to be good at!
Those players at the top are just really lucky.
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>>59262378
>I won because they suicided their Meowscarada T1
Then what is the issue here? They made a play so dangerous you wouldn't predict it, and ultimately lost.
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>>59262745
He has to tell it to us in the most excruciating and retarded way possible, then expect us to be receptive because he's "generating discussion."
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>>59262732
HUH
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>>59262744
Black and white autism tier interpretation. It's DEFINITELY not 100:0, it's probably something like 80:20. Some people are really good and successful in poker too, where there is absolutely luck that saves people from their bad decisions, and failed telepathy attempts.

Many pro player matches involve coin flip moments and hax. They don't always end the match but failed pro players also do end up in the same positions against pro players when they are on the same skill level.
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>>59262617
I’ve seen people here have mixed opinions on tera and condemn dynamax, but what about Z-moves? What was that like relative to the other gimmicks?
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>>59262762
Z Moves are kinda boring. There's a few interesting interactions with status moves but that's about it, besides that they're mostly just a reskin of Black & White's gems (that's why every gem except Normal Gem was removed)
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>>59262762
Better than dynamax, worse than terras.
There were specific z moves that were crazy annoying, but usually it was just trying to predict when 1 super strong move was coming your way and protecting against it.
I don't miss eevee with z boost into baton pass for example
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>>59262761
He's shitposting. It's a sarcastic post aimed at the people talking about annoying RNG moments in their posts (that he thinks are all the same person) by mimicking their posts in a strawman exaggeration. Your post didn't really even matter, he just saw it as an opportunity to seethe about the shadows in his head.
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>>59262761
Being top of the heap among all these equally skilled players means they're just exceptionally lucky, I agree.
Can you believe Paul Chua won all those coin flips? Insane. He flipped so many coins that he won a bunch of regionals, 2nd only to Wolfey who was also very good at coin flip game.
Impossible to be good at pokemon btw.
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>>59262762
I like em, they're simple buffed attacks most of the time and with some funny interactions like Gyarados running Bounce so it could have a 1 time single turn Flying STAB attack with perfect accuracy
More importantly for me, if Z-Conversion remains the same (+1 to every stat) I'll be playing Porygon-Z again on every team wherever Z-moves are available
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>>59261759
i keep trying to draw Green but keep adding way too much detail in the line art.
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>>59262774
>Still seething he got caught out
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>>59262776
ive only started watching vgc tournaments back in fall
the literally first streamed match was decided by one guy hitting 2 freezes and 3 fissures in a 3 match set
he won because of that bullshit luck and it shows 0 skill
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>>59262785
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>>59262762
The worst gimmick and created the most coinflip scenarios
Anyone who ranks Z moves as anything but dead last is a Smogon nigger that likes the useless setup moves
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>>59262785
>replying to completely random people screeching and crying about someone who annoyed you days ago
>this is evidence that you're NOT the one seething
kek
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>>59262580
I don't. Open team sheet ruins tera as a gimmick. There is no surprise factor so everyone just picks the most blatant obvious meta tera types.
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Alright, I guess I'll try to hit at least master ball 2 before reset. Maybe master ball 1 if I wanna spend the rest of the day playing ladder.

Also, whats ladder currently looking like on SV? I skipped out on gens 8 and 9 because I didnt like either gimmick all too much
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>>59262847
>Also, whats ladder currently looking like on SV?
Completely dead I imagine. The only people left playing competitive SV are the ones attending irl events before everything switches to Champions.
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>>59262847
>whats ladder currently looking like on SV?
Permanently running double restricted legendary rules, don't bother unless that interests you
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>>59262795
>first streamed match was won by gambling
Did that person win the tourney?
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I've just started assuming my opponent will make the single most retarded move known to man every time and my winrate is skyrocketing.
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>>59262617
Good job, meanwhile i dropped from 2 wins to master to ultra 3. Tilted as fuck.
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>>59261761
Yup, did it with Mega Victreebel too
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man I really wish I could see my win/loss percantage so I can actually see how well I'm doing. I had this same issue with pocketdead game as well.
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>>59262869
Yeah Emilio the black guy just won first prize because a 95% accurate move missed him.
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>>59262776
You're showcasing a severe lack of understanding. Phil Ivey dominates people in cash poker, even though poker is a luck game. The fact that skill is somewhat involved does not negate the fact that there is an inherent luck factor.

Especially among people of near equal skill. If you're having super high streaks you aren't playing against people on the same skill level as you, or your team is superior for this tournament based on what other people brought.

You can get better as much as you want, and you can still lose to sheer luck, because it's a game where sheer luck is at least PARTIALLY involved. If the flop and river cards are like the 1% odds turns, you can beat Phil Ivey on a hand in pokerm
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>>59262899
Your rating shows how well you're doing. W/L ratio is a fairly pointless stat that people obsess over too much, and that's probably why they hide it now.
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>>59262429
You can’t request pokemon by Origin Mark on GTS.
Incidentally, people on GTS don’t know this. I regularly do Wanted checks on my Greninja/Delphox/Chesnaught hoping to find a like-mon trade for one that was last in Z-A (not a guarantee it’s Z-A origin but at least a chance) and I regularly see legendaries and shinies up for Greninja/Delphox that “can travel to” Z-A.

I don’t even have the heart to snap those trades up. It feels so cruel.
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>>59262917
Why did you mention he was black.
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>>59262926
>or the team you're using is far superior
There we go, now you're starting to understand pokemon.
Regulation MA has been rapidly evolving in a way that some metagames, like Reg H, did not.
Teambuilding is a skill that removes a large portion of the luck you're frequently complaining about. Arguably it's where skill expression and understanding of the game shines brightest.
You still have to pilot the team well, but the game doesn't start with the battle and your losses didn't begin with a missed attack.
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>>59262926
This is a reason why pokemon tournaments are all best of 3 as well, it helps reduce the impact of “just got lucky”. The online ladder is similar. Single-elim bo1 is a terrible structure for any comp pokemon event
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>>59262617
Congrats anon.
It's not easy in a meta as volatile as this.
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>>59262516
Don't they already do that?
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>>59262960
Box size increase is from the subscription, not the battle pass.
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>>59262960
The monthly membership gives you more boxspace than you'll ever need. I was thinking something along the lines of dripfeeding 10 or so box spaces in each battle pass as permanent size increases.
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>>59262961
>>59262967
Ahh. Yeah I just bought everything on day one because I knew I was going to be playing this for a long time.
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>>59262942
Because the game did a DEI.
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>>59262773
Eevee won a regional because of this right
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>missed
>missed
damn I've been outskilled again!
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>>59263098
High risk, high reward.
You can build a team with 100% accurate moves, you're just sacrificing power. You have to decide whether the threat you're facing needs to be KO'd in 1 turn or 2.
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>eliminate all coinflips with entrainment No Guard to everything on the field
>there are still damage rolls and now no one has shell armor
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS GAME
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>>59263116
>95%
>high risk
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>Opponent uses Perish Song when I have 3 and he has 2
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>>59263136
5% is a risk.
Use gravity.
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>>59263126
Why bother with damage rolls at that point
Sheer Cold and Fissure those mfs
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>>59263141
Do you not understand what "high risk" means? Do you thin kthe word "high" is just there to look pretty?
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>>59261761
Yessir just made it in
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>>59263116
You can't use those moves lol. People with 85+% accurate moves will beat you 85% of the time.
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>>59263139
I saw this win a game because the guy who was going to win just assumed he would lose
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>>59263141
What tier are you in? You don't spend a turn setting GRAVITY and taking the associated damage for 95% accuracy moves lol.
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>>59263145
The way you are carrying on though you must value the stakes, ie winning or losing a game based on a miss, very highly.
If you had a 5% chance to die everytime you got in a car would you get in a car?
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>>59263143
It's a coinflip if they have Delibird and I instalose GG no skill, unfair they predicted by team
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>>59263160
If you're going to complain about missing in pokemon, that's a sure sign you're a shitter.
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>>59263162
>cars don't carry a risk of dying
?????????
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>>59263153
congrats anon.
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no one would be upset if this asshole was just removed
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>>59263139
The last 3 Perish Song teams I've played against, all on the very cusp of Master Ball, all used it against Ghost types.
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>>59263177
I am still confused for the type match ups around ghost and psychic types.
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>>59263167
It's a hypothetical shrimp brain. I picked the most easy to understand analogy and you completely missed the point. I'm not making a factual comparison about car safety on a pokemon board jesus christ you dummy
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>>59263173
I just got a sodden Duraludon and I haven't used nor evolved it yet, so I'd be a bit miffed
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>>59263183
>You wouldn't get in cars if they carried a risk of dying would you?
Just read that a few times and understand how dumb you sound.
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>>59263153
This was the team that got me thru Ultra Ball hell. I tweaked the M. Chimecho Boomburst team around what I had in my box and it worked out great. Swapping out Chimecho into Chandelure when Chudzards are trying to melt it then returning with my own Heat Wave was super fun. The synergy between Chimecho, Kommo-o, Chandelure and Blastoise is great. Setting TR as they pop a Tailwind is always funny. Just spam double moves, try to predict their moves with switch ins and protects and have a blast.
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>>59263187
proper bollocks m8
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>>59263194
A 5% risk specifically. Holy shit does your brain just wipe itself at the end of every sentence you read? Do you know what context is?
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>>59263166
The cucked out aspies running the tourney don't let people rage. They think it's a chess tournament. So it's all beta male shit where they shake hands coyly and pretend to be grateful for the opportunity to fire off a Will-o-Miss and miss three times.
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>>59263160
I saw someone using Gravity yesterday. I thought it had Trick Room priority but Sableye goes first with it.
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>>59263196
Team looks good, don't like Golurk though.
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>>59263203
>DOES YOUR BRAIN JUST WIPE WORDS YOU DONT LIKE AND IGNORE CONTEXT?
>please ignore the bit where I declared a 5% chance of missing "high risk"
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>>59263196
No wonder you where stuck in ultra so long wtf is this shit?
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>>59263208
Perish team? It's a tactic in teams using ACTUAL lower accuracy moves like Hypnosis.
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>>59263212
No i said that you were so upset about a 5% chance to miss that you would consider it a big risk.
I then compared that to a situation where a sane person would consider a 5% chance of something bad to happen high risk.
Risk is relative you ass munching doped up fat sack of retarded goo
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>>59263200
It may have been caught in Galar, but I do not speak British, sorry.
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>>59263219
>No I said
No you didn't. You know we can all just scroll up and see your post still right?

>High risk, high reward.
That's what you said.
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What's the best way to dampen an opponent's special attack? I want to make the most annoying bridge possible.
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>>59263223
>That's what you said.
No I didn't, that was a different anon. I was just pointing out that you are retarded.
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>>59263219
This is one of the most unsuccessful backtrack and revision attempts I've seen in my life.
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>>59263209
>>59263214
My other teams were a lot worse than this i guess. Golurk for Earthquakes, he also resists Boombursts like Chandelure. I had Rhyperior in there but eh. The mian goal is just constant double attacks and it worked well. Like i said i fucked around with what I had in Home and tweaked a meme team idea i saw on Youtube lol i like it. Its nice to put all my random shinies to use finally
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>>59263226
>th-that wasn't m-me!
Deary me.
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>>59263225
Lucky you, the bridge AND incineroar both get Snarl.
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>>59263225
Light screen, snarl, parting shot.
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i run eerie impulse raichu only to make bridge gamers miserable
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>>59263225
Struggle Bug or Eerie Impulse
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>>59263216
Nah they were using it to hit with sub 90% accuracy moves, and also to hit Aerodactly with earthquake.
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Wish Charjabug was here to make everything even worse
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>>59261759
Why am I essentially locked at Ultra Ball tier?
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>>59263228
>>59263231
Really nigga lol
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>>59263251
because you're a shitter
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>>59263256
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>>59263196
Only 1 megastone?
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>>59262499
Why are you running the starter tyranitar team but with the free dragonite instead of drampa.
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>>59263261
If I showed the same proof earlier youd just say I used my phone.
Bugger off
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Today I learned the hard way playing singles that Gyarados got Power Whip back. Dunno how I feel about that
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>>59263297
Damn that's a crazy little imaginary situation you got there. Did it make you feel better?
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>>59263256
>>59263261
Felted.
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Oh, has this place reached the
>"no this post is by shittypoopsmith"
>"only fartymcfarts claims others are poopsmith"
level already?
Record time if true
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>>59262235
Opp is gonna turn with meow on ttar and tailwind with cotton, I'm going to protect with ttar and kill cotton with butter blade and sand so it can't encore my ass
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>Gourgeist is one of the few pokemon in Champions with Moonblast
>SpA is way lower than its Atk
Why did they give this thing Moonblast. If it's 'cause it's spooky, surely some of the other ghosts could get it too?
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>>59263363
Given the board we're on, I'm surprised it was ok for as long as it was, but the thread has gotten noticably worse in the past week
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>>59262235
Oh definitely tailwind and grass attack into Tyranitar.
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>>59263375
Yeah night time pokemon get it. Hoothoot and Noctowl learn it by level up.
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>>59263375
>one of the few pokemon in Champions with Moonblast
Yes
If you're ignoring clefable, A.nintales, gardevoir, altaria, whimiscott, floette, florges, aromatisse, sylveon and primarina.
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>>59263407
Notice how they all have half decent Special Attack
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>>59263258
How do I not be a shitter?
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>>59263375
It's a damn shame they didn't swap Gourgeist's attack stats, especially when Trevenant had extremely similar stats and was introduced in the same gen.
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>>59263426
Git lucky.
Stop missing attacks, stop flinching, make your your opponents always miss and flinch.
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>>59263251
Because you're using a team you made yourself instead of a team someone else made. Teambuilding is exponentially harder than just playing Pokemon. You put yourself at a handicap if you try to teambuild unless you REALLY know what you're doing.
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>>59263430
They should have made the small one a special attacker and the big one a physical wall but nooo
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>>59262235
The opponent may set Sunny Day on Whimsicott to remove your sand and stop it from destroying sash, and use a dark type move into the Ceruledge slot with Meoscarada who outspeeds both without tailwind needed.

However Whimsicott might not have Sunny Day (or be afraid to set it with Ceruledge opposite) or just hit tailwind.

You should double protect to see the Meowscarada type change. If it goes to grass you must switch out Tyranitar, if it goes dark you can low kick into the slot and switch Ceruledge.
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>>59263471
You could get encored into protect on Ceruledge and Whimsicott could moonblast at you. But with Whimsicott teams, they are usually built around tailwind, otherwise why else have Whimsicott, and I think it will set tailwind if sash is broken by sand. Because it doesn't want to go down without tailwind going up.
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>>59263471
Ceruledge is probably running sash though, so meow knocking ceruledge first turn is very risky. Honestly, the opps best turn is to double protect and let sandstorm chip ceruledge, then knock ceruledge. Whimsiscott should encore the Tyranitar if it protected
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>>59263519
I have never seen a sashed Ceruledge in Champions.
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>>59263525
You've probably never seen many ceruledge in the first place
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>>59263433
I consistently did well in SWSH and SV Tournaments. I got to Ultra Ball 1 really easily, but as soon as I'm one or two battles away from ranking up, I get a massive lose streak.

I switch between my own teams and other people's teams that had successful results.
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>>59263528
True, but all the shit that one shots them is so easily navigated that a sash feels worthless on one.
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>>59263519
Why would you run sash Ceruledge next to TTar?
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>>59263533
Yeah but it's still probably opps best turn just in case it is running weak armor sash, otherwise if you were to knock plus moonblast or just knock ceruledge is out speeding whimsi and bitterblading something (unless they are insane and swords dance). Worst case scenario with opp double protect is ttar dragon dancing but I've not seen a ttar running dance since great ball.
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>>59263552
Anon go back and read the original post
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>>59263519
I think Ceruledge won't have sash, because the person wouldn't set sand beside something sashed that takes chip from sand.
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>>59263568
What about it? I assume the guy in the original post wasn't running sash
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>>59263577
On sand teams Excadrill always has sash, Ceruledge won't have it.
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daily reminder that """people""" who don't nickname their mons are soulless NPCs
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>>59263598
Years ago I came to the realisation that all my nicknames were terrible and unfunny.
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>>59263607
there is charm to shitty nicknames. you don't have to be funny or clever, you just need to be able to rotate the apple
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>>59263598
I just have so many I run out of good names
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>>59263598
I think they're a bit tacky.
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>default trainer outfit and animation
>no pokemon nicknames
>default pokeball, no titles, no shinies
Yup, it's pokemon time.
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>>59263607
Anyone who has played Worms knows that any nicknames are vital to invest yourself.
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Entrepreneur the Sneasler, by beloved
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>1,890, on a 11 win streak
>Haven't played since Global Challenge
>Maybe I'll try getting to 1900 or even 2000 before the season ends
>Lose a bunch of games, get kicked down to 1820
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>Incineroar named "Incin"
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>>59263648
I crash out if I lose more than 1 in a row. I don't know how to fix my mindset. The more okay you are with losing the better you can become.

There's just something evil about seeing your ELO drop. And then it feels evil when you play casual and win a bunch and realize you could've been earning VP and ELO.
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What do you think of my team?
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>>59263662
when the elo drop, i just wanna stop

when the elo go up, i can't get enoughp
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>>59263682
Explain how Wash Rotom fits the theme.
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>>59263298
Some of these move distributions are fucking baffling. Why the fuck do Lopunny and Pinsir not get Double-Edge but it’s fine and dandy if Meganium gets it?
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>>59263723
He is just there to spread debuffs if needed. Maybe get rid of a peliper
He also washes the VP that the Syndicate gets.
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>>59263751
I like it
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>>59262119
I posted it last thread. I made it to Master Ball with Mono Normal, too.
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>>59262149
Oh sorry anon here you go. I mentioned last thread but Scizor is only good once you’re in tune with your Sitrus Berry targets, then he becomes a bastard.
>>59263798
Basado, I might try Mono Ghost or Mono Dark next season
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>>59263835
You should give it a try. It'll be good practice for the Monotype /vp/ tournament, which will hopefully be starting soon.
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>>59261761
Team 1: The team I used to go from poke to masterball (5/6 are the default pokemon if you chose Absol I just changed their movesets/items and replaced Absol with Basc)
Team 2: The team I'm currently using in masterball3 (it's ok so far)
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>>59263835
Meant for
>>59262162

>>59263842
Yeah I’ve had success with mono Ghost before, I feel like that and Normal are two of the best because of their limited weaknesses, gigantic movepools, and top tier secondary typing variety. I’d try Dark but then I’d feel obligated to use the accursed hideous tiger.
Mayyyybe Fire but that would boil down to Sun games and praying ROCKS don’t just sweep my ass.
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>>59262719
im only 100 pts below you and i only hit top ~10-8k
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>>59263885
>mono type
>secondary typing
You didnt reach masterball
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what happens when the season ends?
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>>59263975
That's when the season begins.
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>>59263975
It's over. Game shuts down forever. Thanks for playing.
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>>59263975
Nobody knows. We'll see in a few hours, but assumedly season rewards are dolled out and the ladder resets.
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Tatora on a bunnysuit when? Give the people what they want GF!
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>running sand team with ttar and sand veil brightpowder garchomp
>up against an eruption team
>flinch their oranguru 3 fucking times in a row
>switches torkoal into rock slides
>save mega tar for the torkoal switch, 50% hp eruption in sand deals 5% damage
>garchomp dodges 3 matchas in a row
I need some kind of communication tools, I want to know how hard they threw their switch into the wall from that game
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If Wide Lens was in the game, I would happily use Wide Lens Aero over Mega-Aero
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>double protect to sucessfully get my slow mega in trick room
>they fail their double protect to get out of trick room
My most powerful skill, luck
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>>59263982
Do you think they'll add new items?
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>>59264082
Maybe next month, but I doubt we'll be getting new mons/items for May.
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>>59264082
They should add more balance changes
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>>59264101
Fake out is now 95% accuracy
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New bread, move when ready.
>>59264180
>>59264180
>>59264180
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>>59263735
Double Edge is ass on Meganium, unless you meant Feraligatr which yes is pure bullshit. They also put Mega Glalie in the game and all it can do is press Explosion.
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>>59264189
He was confused as to why Meganium gets a move it has no purpose or use for while two mons that would kill to have it don't. Not that it's used on Meg at all.
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>>59263735
The deletion of Return and its effects on the Normal type have been disastrous.
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been seeing a lot of people start challenging farigiraf's armor tail to try and scout for people who fake it with cud chew or whatever. which usually means they just get swept when it actually is armor tail.
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>>59263187
I have a thunderstruck shiny.
I traded a landorus for it. Best trade ever. Just wish it was in a beast ball. I'm trying to find a sodden basculegion now since I got an outbreak finally.
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>>59261761
yes, both for singles and doubles. im 1800 elo in singles and 1900 elo in doubles



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