The damage that this generation did to the franchise is inconceivable.
>>59270762They tried to fix it by desperately nostalgia baiting with remakes less than 10 years after the originals but even that couldnt save this shitshow. Good think Gen 4 came in to save the day.
>>59270765>>59270762Preach xister!Dilating my shit rn
Trying too hard
>>59270762The problem with Hoenn was that they dropped Whirlpool. The games would have been perfect if they forced you to use four water type HMs.
i think hoenn would've been a lot more acceptable if gen 4 was two regions like gen 2 was and they continued to do that every other gen or smth
KANTOOOOOOOOO
>>59270762you backtrack like 10 times before the 3rd gym I don't get why this game gets such a free pass
>>59270762They started Mystery Dungeon though.
>>59270964Backtracking =/= BadYou backtrack once btw.People like you are the reason area's are so lame these days. No need to return to this area again because you can do everything immediately so you'll never grow an attachment to this new area.
>>59270964Hoenn has a lot of optional loops. I'm sorry your brain is brown and you can only do things exactly as instructed.
>>59270762>Killed Pokémania>Pitiful sales numbers>Point where the OGs quit>Goofy eco terrorist villains>Too much water>Introduced AbsolHumiliation ritual for the entire franchise.
>>59271095Pokemania was dead before RS hit the shelves. Gen 3 turned Pokemon from a dead fad to the biggest franchise in the world.
>>59271109Are you serious, sales were sharply declining Gen 4 sold more than Gen3
>>59271132Gen 4 started salvaging Pokémon from a dead fad to the biggest franchise in the world.Gen 3 was the humiliation ritual.
>>59270762enough about gen 2
>>59270762Truth Nuclear Winter
>>59270762True, it never was that good again and failed to ever live up to the standards set by them.
>>59271202>>59271160
>>59270762The damage was needed to make Pokémon what it is today. The gen I-II formula was never sustainable. What Hoenn did was put down a framework that could last indefinitely Except cull the NatDex which they held off with until Galar
>>59271134lmfao
If Morimoto didn't save this generation with Emerald, NOBODY would be giving Ruby and Sapphire a pass and people would shit on Gen III for the downgrade it was
>>59272248some people night not want to hear this but rs are some of the most feature-complete first-versions in the series, being only beat out by bw
>>59272256Only RBY does a worse job than RS in that department lmao.
>>59272256>The first games to outright cull the dex were feature complete>You can't even complete the NatDex in Gen III without EmeraldBut hey, it has Contests, I guess
>>59272294that's how most first games are. The only difference is transferring being available in every subsequent game.
>>59272294Contests are cute but they kinda suck. They have even worse gameplay than the battles.
>>59272304Yeah as of Gen III. Gens I and II only required games that already came out. You had to wait until 2006 to be able to even catch shit like Mareep or Houndour without Gameshark
>>592723132005* (2004 in Japan)Your point still stands tho.
>>59272313>>59272323...yes? That's basically the only downside to RS and is no longer an issue, though.
>>59272335Back to the original point then>>59272248>If Morimoto didn't save this generation with Emerald, NOBODY would be giving Ruby and Sapphire a pass and people would shit on Gen III for the downgrade it wasThat's NOT Feature Complete
>>59272335It is. The roster of available Pokémon is RS is incredibly bland, which reflects the game's absolutely underwhelming Battle Tower, which is pretty much the only thing left to do besides reaching the Sky Pillar.
