Volcarona remains banned in OU even after the Tera Blast ban. I wasn't following the discussions, but I vaguely assumed it wasn't a problematic Pokemon after the ban, for the keep ban % to be this high really surprised me.
>smogshit after the gen 6 aegislash banshiggydiggy
>>59277709I know you weren't around back then but the drizzleswim shit was a disgrace and they never recovered from it. Way worse thsn the meme sword
>>59277702Don't we already have a fanfic thread?
>>59277747Did we? Regardless, this is a new update, so it’s fine.
>comp thread>look inside>it's 6v6 singles with scrublord playground rulesThere is already a Champions thread up, sweetie.
>>59277709>>59277747>>59277833all me btw
>>59277702Smogon always hated the matchup moth. Of course they would try to keep it banned.
>look at discussion thread>Finch thinks it's fine in OU and wants it unbanned>everyone else goes "yeah it's not broken but I don't like it">stays bannedhonestly shocked desuIt's also funny how one of the things that got them to ban Tera Blast was the potential for some ubers shitters to come home to OU but we're probably only getting Regieleki. Assuming Gen 10 even has access to 6v6 singles, I think they're gonna have to change up how this stuff works for it.
>>59277702>Comp threadFanfic thread*
>>59277702So you mean the main mechanic of the gen isn’t actually broken and smoggies are just retards who can’t adapt? No fucking way, who could have predicted this?
why does smogon cause certain people to uncontrollably shit their pants?
To absolutely no one’s surprise, Tera Blast was NOT the reason Gen 9 is so unbalanced and banning it did not fix the metagame.
>>59277961baitposting is the only way they get interaction from other human beings
Watching smogshit get taken increasingly less seriously with each passing gen brings me joy.
>>59277702Aside from losing potential Ground coverage, Tera Blast doesn't really have a purpose on its moveset. What really made Volcarona stupid this gen was its ability to invert its shitty typing.
>>59277926Matchup Moth isn't very popular with the player base, so even if it's not technically too strong for the tier anymore, they'd still just rather never see it again.
>>59277926Turns out the retards blaming tera for all of the ubers being broken were simply retarded.
>>59277961Literally just because Smogon doesn't play by "official" rules. They think you should be playing 4v4 doubles at level 50 with Item Clause forever.You hear all the time about how "Game Freak doesn't balance for 6v6 singles anymore so you shouldn't play it". Of course, that completely ignores all the balance changes made specifically for 6v6 singles, like the Rapid Spin buff and Heavy Duty Boots in Gen 8 or the nerf to recovery move PP in Gen 9.
>>59278586>Of course, that completely ignores all the balance changes made specifically for 6v6 singles, like the Rapid Spin buff and Heavy Duty Boots in Gen 8 or the nerf to recovery move PP in Gen 9.And the biggest being every single campaign designed around ending in climactic 6v6 battles.
>>59278583Tera WAS the reason Volcarona was banned. The playerbase on Smogon just doesn't want to bring it back because no one, except for Volcarona users, ever has a good time when they see it on the team preview screen. It's as groan inducing as Toxapex (pre-nerf) was. It's like how Wobbling is banned in Super Smash Bros Melee. No, Ice Climbers aren't broken with it, but no one besides IC players wants to see Wobbling legal.
>>59278595Tera for changing type made Volcarona broken, and that hasn't been removed.
>>59278595But thats no reason not to unban it. Toxapex is unfun as fuck, and yet its never banned.
>>59278594To be fair, Game Freak has been nerfing in game teams for generations now. Can't have battles be TOO difficult, otherwise people might lose to Cynthia again or something.
>137 eligible voters>99 votes so far>current votes:>62 keep>37 unban>but 38 votes won't make a differenceHuh???
>>59278600Several tiers do the "well it's TECHNICALLY fine in the tier balance wise, but we just don't want to deal with that bullshit so we're sending it to the tier above" schtick. That's the entire reason Polteageist and Blaziken are banned in UU currently. Toxapex and Slowbro still wall the shit out of Blaziken and Lokix is still in the tier, but nobody who plays Gen 9 UU wants to see them come back. Same reason Espathra ain't coming back either. Setup sweepers are just unfun to fight.
>>59278614More than 59.9% of players have to agree to unban Volcarona for it to drop. Even if the remaining 38 voters all voted unban, it would be 62 ban to 75 unban which would be only 54% unban.
>>59278595Nah, Heavy-Duty Boots is what broke Volc. It should’ve been banned in Gen 8 too.
>>59278567Tera Dragon Tera Blast was also a thing
It's not about Tera Blast, it's about Tera. Volcarona gets one free setup turn by going Tera and that's annoying as fuck. Volcarona was already an unfun Pokémon to play against even before Tera was a thing.
They are afraid of the dancing bug that comes in at 50% thanks to the funny rocks
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>>59278713>>59278719Bodied those freaks
>kojo multiquoting to his own samefagging againDoesn't it ever get old for you?
>>59277702The problem was never Tera Blast, it was Volcarona being able to change its shitty defensive typing at will, which is the singular thing holding back.It's funny how much better you can make a mon just by changing it to Water or Fairy type.
>>59278727Kojodaddy broke you.
>>59278753You will never be a father.
>>59277702Don't care. Still using it. Cope and seethe.
>>59278713>you totally said it's the only one that exists when it's clearly the predominant format, if you don't iterate every single official format you're just a heckin campaignshitter who doesn't know what he's talking about!>>59278719NOOOOO STOP LIKING ONE FORMAT OVER ANOTHER YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY THE GAME THAT WAY
>>59278882>when it's clearly the predominant format,Which part of the screen implies doubles is the predominant format? Please elaborate, oh wise campaignshitter-kun.
>>59278888I dunno, the fact that there isn't a VGC single battle format? Competitive play, the shit that actually has cash prizes, is all doubles, and so, VGC is doubles.
This whole vote was rigged to maintain the Volc ban btw They could have done the same they they did with eleki and unbanned Volcarona, then had another ban suspecting. This would have made it much easier for Volcarona to stay around. But, for some reason, they decided to not do that with Volcarona and do unban suspecting, which is a overall harder to win vote. And admittedly, it isn't even broken, it's just kind of annoying. There's no good reason for fucking Dnite to stay in the tier if Volc isn't allowed. But for some reason, Dnite is too important to axe when it does all the same shit and is way harder to deal with
>>59278906https://victoryroad.pro/2024-ryuo-sen/Got anything else, campaignshitter-kun?
>>59278921>he had to go back more than 2 years to find a singles vgc tournyuhh... so it's NOT the predominant format.
>>59278921>one tourney in 2024>when worlds, regionals, and all that jazz are doubles and have been doubles since BWYeah, VGC, and official competitive pokemon, is doubles.
>>59278906>>59278926>>59278931>D-D-D-D-D-D-DOESN'T COUNT!!!!Concession accepted.
>>59278937uh yeah it doesn't.
>>59278937why should it count, when it's one deviation from the doubles norm?
>>59278954>it's a deviation even though singles is an option in the game equally as much as doublescampaignshitter moment
>>59278955>option in the game>conversation about competitive playwhere's the VGC singles, anon? where can, not could, can, I play singles vgc?
>they don't have enough tournaments for singles so therefore you should care about my fanfic format they have zero tournaments forweird cope
>>59278960I showed you an official singles tournament and you started screeching that it doesn't count. I'm sorry you're assblasted over your fanfic format being irrelevant, campaignshitter-kun.
>>59278965...how is it irrelevant? every year, an official world tournament is held using the doubles format. genuinely wish i could say the same about singles
>>59277961not enough attention from their parents as children
Why doesn't the spamming fucker just adapt to people discussing a format he doesn't like instead of begging Nintendo and GF to ban them?
>>59277961it's literally all one guy and he also pissed in his bed well into his 30s
>not running roar/whirlwind on a special defensive pokemonsmogon pedos at it again
>>59277988ditto
>>59277961i hate the smogon forum users and the people who regular the chat rooms on showdown and thus want smogon to suffer and further be derided as a laughingstock.
>>59279272>i hate the smogon forum userswhy?
>fanfic meta
So now that TB has been banned and Kyurem is neutered the only real issue for Balance is Ogerpon, right?
>>59277702>the reason volcarona got banned is because they don't want to play against itwhat a stupid reason. it seems like every metagame left alone for long enough will eventually just have long time players ban things just so they don't have to live with it, and volcarona isn't even that bad without tera
>>59277702>fictional meta
>>59282034Yes, this is a non-official fanmade format that GF doesn't balance around, requiring Smogon to institute a banlist.>>59277702What are some off-meta picks you're running? Personally I'm having fun with Okidogi, feels like a tank
singles is boring and slow paced, it takes so much less commitment in wchich turn, because you can swtich to dedicated pivot OVER AND OVER AGAIN, its just sucks to watch and play, you put hazard opponent put hazards, and most matches is will come to who switches better, reads exists, but its takes 0 risk to make, even pokeAIMD dropped it, nothing against smogon until(gen 5) when they bored making deep analysis, but now? the only things they do is just making low effort analyses and making a lot of tiers and banning so much things that its just laughable at this point
come home to natdex doubles
>>59277702Is this smogon shit? Play VGC, retard.
