>>59285583
One of the best games in the series.

>>59285583
Lots of incoming grief regarding the fact that gen 6 got cucked and had Pokemon Z scrapped because GF fucking sucks and had to release gen 7 on their retarded 20th anniversary.

>>59285583
A very epic plot twist that I won't spoil here.
But be prepared.
Small hint if you want: One NPC is actually deceiving you. I won't say which one.

>>59285601
The game doesn’t need a Pokemon Z. Why would anyone be mad about getting a new game over a rehash?

>>59285583
Dogshit

>>59285608
>Dogshit
I get off to eating furfrous and Houndooms shit.

>>59285607
Anon, gen 3 would't be as good as it is had it not been for Emerald. Same for gen 4.
Then there is being able to catch both legendries in one game, perhaps more than 2 post-game legendries (both from Kanto) and overall more content and refined story. All the cool things about Kalos came from the anime, which is very sad given the potential.
Also Zygarde feels like a massive disappointment since his lore is only explored in the next gen as side content. Imagine how pathetic Giratina would've been without Platinum. Just some retard sitting in a random cave.

>>59285607
>Why would anyone be mad about getting a new game over a rehash?
That implies that Alola wasn't dog water before USUM.

>>59285583
A relatively short and functional experience that will leave you wondering why it feels so unfinished. If you played oras you'll be really surprised by how sparse the use of mega evolution is

>>59285629
>Anon, gen 3 would't be as good as it is had it not been for Emerald. Same for gen 4.
Emerald is barely better than RS and XY already fixed all the flaws DPPt had. What are you on about?

>Then there is being able to catch both legendries in one game,
Spending $40 on the opposite version accomplishes the same thing as spending $40 on a pointless scam rehash.

>and overall more content
Like what?

>and refined story
Emerald and Platinum didn't have refined stories.

>Also Zygarde feels like a massive disappointment since his lore is only explored in the next gen
"Its lore" is already in XY.

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>>59285656
>relatively short

>>59285665
>Emerald is barely better than RS
Ignoring the QoLs, it feels better to play as a standalone game for the reasons I already mentioned, being able to experience the most out of a gen with only one game rather than 2 is already a massive step up.

>Spending $40 on the opposite version accomplishes the same thing as spending $40 on a pointless scam rehash.
Ff to today, when you want to replay gen 3, do you emulate both Ruby and Sapphire and then trade pokémon locally or just get Emerald since it's objectively the best way to experience the generation? Had Z came out, people today would've forgotten about X and Y and would be playing that instead.

>Like what?
Do we really have to address the elephant in the room? Battle Frontier.

>Emerald and Platinum didn't have refined stories.
Emerald actually made the conflict between Aqua and Magma feel like something with both of them succeeding in reviving their respective legendary rather than one of the two teams falling behind for no reason. Platinum made Cyrus feel like an actual character with foreshadowing instead of just shoehorning him at the end. And these are just the first things to come to my mind.

>"Its lore" is already in XY.
No it's not, you find him in a cave with nothing hinting to his role or even explaining what he is. He just feels like a generic legendary with a particularly good design. Before the anime Zygarde didn't even officially have forms, "50%" was all there was.

>>59285583
You're in for a shallow experience with zero meaningful postgame content. The campaign holds your hand the entire way through and the gameplay is significantly watered down. This was the game that killed pokemon.

>>59285689
>the game that killed pokemon
>what is japanese pokemon blue

>>59285686
>being able to experience the most out of a gen with only one game rather than 2 is already a massive step up
It doesn't let you experience "most of the gen" any more than RS does.

>Ff to today, when you want to replay gen 3, do you emulate both Ruby and Sapphire and then trade pokémon locally or just get Emerald since it's objectively the best way to experience the generation?
I have to trade Pokemon locally anyway because Emerald is missing Pokemon, retard.

>Do we really have to address the elephant in the room? Battle Frontier.
BW2 and USUM don't have a Battle Frontier.

>Emerald actually made the conflict between Aqua and Magma feel like something
They already had a conflict in RS.

>Platinum made Cyrus feel like an actual character
How? He's the same cardboard plank garbage that he was in DP.

>No it's not
Yes it is. Did you read the Pokedex?

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>>59285689
>You're in for a shallow experience

>>59285689
I played XY's postgame for dozens of hours, it has more than most Pokemon games

>>59285700
KEK

An easy and incomplete game with forgettable characters and gym leaders.

>>59285700
The best berry farming was in Gen 2. You picked the berries, reset the clock, then repeated until you got your fill.

None of that watering at specific interval nonsense. Some things shouldn't be more in depth.

>>59285708
how is it incomplete?
also if the characters are forgettable then why can I remember them?

>>59285583
Extremely unfinished game with a completely ridiculous excuse of a story

>>59285713
how is it unfinished?
and how is the story ridiculous?

>>59285583
You might have a more fun time if you reject all gift Pokemon you're given. The game hands you multiple powerful megas and you'll see very few of them in opposition, letting you steamroll things unless you choose not to use them.

>>59285665
>Spending $40 on the opposite version accomplishes the same thing as spending $40 on a pointless scam rehash
This is the most brain dead argument. These games came out decades ago. You can just get the upper version as your first game now and not have to care about the original 2

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>>59285722
It's a Pokemon game. The gift Pokemon you're given at the very beginning of every game steamrolls the game.

>>59285695
>It doesn't let you experience "most of the gen" any more than RS does.
Literally everyone I met irl that wanted to play/replay gen 3 always picked Emerald and citied that exact reason for their choice. You're playing an objectively better version.

>I have to trade Pokemon locally anyway because Emerald is missing Pokemon, retard.
Yeah, a grand total of 7 pokemon, which unless you're going for full pokedex completion, they aren't that worth to have in your team. Even if they were, it's still significantly better than the two games having over double the missing pokemon.

>BW2 and USUM don't have a Battle Frontier.
BW2 is a sequel that changes the map, the story and pretty much everything. USUM added so much extra shit including but not limited to the ultra wormhole and the whole Team Rainbow Rocket postgame, which by themselves they're huge additions.

>They already had a conflict in RS.
Yeah, with the team of the complementary game amounting to jackshit since they get sidelined as soon as they're introduced.

>How? He's the same cardboard plank garbage that he was in DP.
You see him appear a few times before the eventual showdown, which while not massive, it's subtle foreshadowing that helps with the world building.

>Yes it is. Did you read the Pokedex?
Nigga are you just trolling now? That's nowhere near the lore treatment that Rayquaza and Giratina got in their own games. Even Suicune became more interesting in Crystal. Also, here's the pokedex entries:
>When the Kalos region’s ecosystem falls into disarray, it appears and reveals its secret power.
>It's hypothesized that it's monitoring those who destroy the ecosystem from deep in the cave where it lives.
Where is him being made of cells mentioned? Where is all the anime and gen 7 lore?

>>59285725
Cool, so how do I catch Honchkrow in Platinum?

Absolute kino. You just had to be there.

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>>59285717
>how is it unfinished?
Lol, lmao even
Let's not even get started on Southern Kalos, or the fact that there's only 60 new Pokémon
>and how is the story ridiculous?
The main villain is literally Hitler and Thanos combined. Everything about Team Flare is a fucking joke. The only interesting part is AZ and he doesn't get shit. Plus, your rivals are all annoying one-dimensional retards, except Serena/Calem maybe who has like 1.5 dimensions

>>59285722
i'm planning to just play with kalos game because that's what i always do, probably won't even use mega mechanics

>>59285727
>Literally everyone I met irl that wanted to play/replay gen 3 always picked Emerald and citied that exact reason for their choice
Everyone you met irl is wrong and fell for a scam rehash.

>Yeah, a grand total of 7 pokemon,
As opposed to the grand total of 2 pokemon you're screeching about wanting?

>BW2 is a sequel that changes the map, the story and pretty much everything
And it ends up not even having any more routes than XY. So why does XY need a 3rd version again?

>th-they amounted to jackshit!
Oh, so just like Emerald then.

>You see him appear a few times before the eventual showdown
Why do DStards think "character existing on the screen = character development"?

>That's nowhere near the lore treatment that Rayquaza
Rayquaza gets a single extra cutscene with zero extra elaboration on its lore you couldn't already glean from RS.

>>59285725
Exactly, I have no idea why so many people on /vp/ have an hate boner for upper versions. Upper versions are and will stay timeless games that will still be played by future generations. The only justifying their removal would be if GF just started releasing a single version per gen.

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>>59285742
So Platinum is unfinished?

>>59285743
>kalos game
kalos pokemon*

>>59285752
Damn why are third versions so rushed and unfinished?

They even cut the Arceus event from Platinum because the game was so rushed and unfinished. Literally had to wait for a remake to finish the game.

>>59285752
You can't see where this is leading to. It's just an area that was never to be intended to be reached
The powerplant was clearly meant to have more content, but it never made it into the game
And of course you don't address Southern Kalos, since the leaks proof that it was all cut content that was conceptualised from the beginning and then removed later on

Man, imagine defending XY. Zoomers are mentally ill for thinking their childhood slop was good

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>>59285765
>You can't see where this is leading to.

>>59285762
they never released the Arceus event because they were worried that players were too retarded to understand how to use the item because of complains about mount coronet being too confusing lol
it was fully implemented into the game they just never did the distribution for it, it's not cut content because they worked on the content and implemented it
cut content means it was never made it's not the same thing

cute b8 tho

>they cut the event because the game was so rushed
yes that's what i just said

>>59285583
The early game is pretty good (first 2 gyms) after that you notice the game was rushed and the rest of the game has pacing issues.
>>59285603
>One NPC
You never played the game, there are TWO masked heros.

>>59285745
>Everyone you met irl is wrong and fell for a scam rehash
Everyone I met irl emulates the games on their phone and puts the upper version significantly above the other two.

>As opposed to the grand total of 2 pokemon you're screeching about wanting?
You're comparing two legendaries which also happen to be some, if not the best, box art legendaries to Surskit and Roselia. Also remember that this franchise is aimed at kids, I'm guessing they would rather have the big cool pokemon rather than the small weak looking ones.

>And it ends up not even having any more routes than XY. So why does XY need a 3rd version again?
You're ignoring what I said to talk about routes, it feels like a whole new experience, which you're conveniently ignoring. XY needed a 3rd version because they will empty, and GF themselves had initial plans for an upper version, so it's not even debatable that they were purposefully left with cut content.

>Oh, so just like Emerald then.
Again, you're just playing dumb for some reason, they both succeeded in their plans and you constantly fight both, visit their respective hideouts etc.

>"character existing on the screen = character development"?
I never used the term character development, I said foreshadowing and acknowledged that it wasn't anything too massive, but still better than base DP.

>Rayquaza gets a single extra cutscene with zero extra elaboration on its lore you couldn't already glean from RS.
When Groudon and Kyogre fight you're told about this 3rd pokemon and his role, which for a pokemon game is a good chunk of extra story. Not to mention that he actually does his fucking job compared to RS where he just stays in sky pillar.

Why are you so determined to not admit that the upper versions are just better? This feels too elaborate to be a simple troll, do you genuinely pick one of the two initial versions when you want to replay a gen? Were you one of the kids that got the gen asap while everyone else got the 3rd version?

>>59285700
You had berry farming on the dreamworld for BW though. Why did you make an image to prove you're an underage newfag?

>>59285783
(You) are arguing with the board's resident schizo yawnfag, he's just addicted to getting (You)s. You'll know he's getting mad when he starts calling you sagie.

>>59285773
Wow, one half of one small building vs THREE parts of the entire Power Plant you see all over the background, kek
Sure a great comparison you made there anon

>>59285790
>D-D-D-D-DOESN'T COUNT!!!
So Platinum is unfinished, glad we agree.

Imagine being such a worthless NEET that you pass your days shitting on good games while praising dogshit ones while constantly baiting others instead of doing anything productive or worth of discussing. Lol. Fucking lmfao.

>>59285783
>Everyone I met irl emulates the games on their phone and puts the upper version significantly above the other two
So everyone you met irl is wrong and fell for a scam rehash.

>You're comparing two legendaries which also happen to be some, if not the best, box art legendaries to Surskit and Roselia
You're right, I'm comparing Pokemon someone might actually want to use in a playthrough to two box legendaries that do nothing but rot in the PC after you're already done 99% of the relevant content in the game.

>it feels like a whole new experience
3rd versions aren't a whole new experience.

>XY needed a 3rd version
How?

>they both succeeded in their plans
They quite literally didn't succeed in their plans.

>and you constantly fight both, visit their respective hideouts
And it adds nothing to the story as opposed to fighting one.

>I said foreshadowing
XY already has Lysandre exist on the screen as "foreshadowing". I guess it doesn't need a 3rd version then.

>When Groudon and Kyogre fight you're told about this 3rd pokemon and his role, which for a pokemon game is a good chunk of extra story
The "role" is Rayquaza showing up for one cutscene. There's nothing new that wasn't already in RS.

>Why are you so determined to not admit that the upper versions are just better?
Why are you so determined to want Game Freak to scam you?

>>59285583
disappointment

>>59285798
>[OTHER GAME] had 1% of its content cut, which TOTALLY justifies >30% of XY content being cut! G-gotcha haha...
Unironically jump off a bridge retard, holy shit

>>59285742
>>59285798
Inside that small power plant sideshack, there are Glaceon, Vaporeon, Sylveon, Lopunny, Gardevoir, Scolipede, Machamp, Lucraio, Roserade, Leavanny, Lilligant, Gothitelle, Meloetta and Diancie having a huge steamy mass orgy. This is why you cannot enteor or the games age rating would go up to 18+.

>>59285806
Lmfao, at least in your previous replies you TRIED to make your arguments and criticisms sound genuine, now you just went to denying that 2+2 is 4.
>They didn't succeed
If they didn't Groudon and Kyogre wouldn't be in the game retard.

I was debating if even replying to you one more time, just to point out how you're lowering your IQ to below 70 just for some attention. Either that or you are ACTUALLY a retard that thinks most people don't emulate these games.
GTFO Kojo.

>>59285813
>maybe if I make up a random number and say XY cut that percentage of content I can pretend XY is unfinished!

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>>59285868
me when I play platinum

>>59285872
TRUE!!! This was so funny it made me slap my big fat belly and fart from how hilarious it was!

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>>59285583
To me the two things that this game did amazingly well were the berry garden, and the trash can rng system. The only game where you can keep checking trash cans and might get decent items. The berry gardening is the most in depth and in my opinion the most fun out of every game. I check my 3DS every couple hours just to maintain my berries through the day. Feels good.

>>59285834
>Lmfao, at least in your previous replies you TRIED to make your arguments and criticisms sound genuine, now you just went to denying that 2+2 is 4.
You still haven't told me how to use Honchkrow in Platinum.

>If they didn't Groudon and Kyogre wouldn't be in the game retard.
Evidently not, because they failed yet they still exist in the game.

>>59285583
The most right villain in the entire franchise. His goals are just straight up correct.

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>>59285846
>a random number
LMFAOOOO

>>59285906
>th-they cut empty spots on a map!
wow

>>59285667
…Why did it seem so short?

>>59285912
because you're retarded just parrot reddit takes instead of judging the games objectively?

>>59285704
Name what you actually did

>>59285583
Honestly, a mid game hard carried by megas and the KANTOOOOO pandering (that sadly always sells)
Its the easiest Pokèmon game, and with all the megas the (few) new mons added are almost never used in any playtrought, outside the starters
ORAS are consider better than XY despite being remakes, something that never happened in other gens. That alone told a lot about XY

>>59285583
up until about the 3rd gym it'll bother you with the yapping but make you think once it releases you, the game may well be quite good. Then you find out that it's just idle "I'm tha bad guy... drats you beat me" and "I'm the gym rat... grats you beat me" until the e4, you go "wow is she a member of team flare???" and then the game ends
it's ok. Not the worst entries in the series even at the time. Dex is good.

>Be underage Zoomer
>Enjoy Pokémon XY
>It's not the best but not the worst
>Grow up into a non-underage boomer
>Replay the games
>Can't make it past the first gym because thy are just slow and boring and there is zero challenge, strategy or thought involved.

>>59285967
>Can't make it past the first gym because thy are just slow and boring and there is zero challenge, strategy or thought involved.
XY is the easiest Pokèmon game, but you can say the same for pretty much the whole IP, that after all was made for Kids. There is Nuzlocke for proper challenge

>>59285967
This except with Platinum

>>59285967
Is the implication here that other Pokemon games have challenge, strategy or thought involved?

>>59285978
NIGGA LMFAO
How long do you plan to keep this up? Both of the people you were arguing with stopped giving a shit about you and you're still going at it.
Fucking neck yourself holy shit.

>>59285967
This except with HGSS and BW2

>>59285978
>>59285984
>>59285991
/v/ when they actually have to enjoy the games they claim to be fans of:

>>59285984
The implication is that I outgrew the franchise and anyone this invested in defending mediocre games into adulthood is just a weirdo with low IQ.

>>59286004
Weird way to announce your low iq though.

>>59285991
HGSS, Platinum, Emerald and BW2 are just qualityslop. Who cares if the games are good they are boring to watch on stream and that's what us Zoomerchads care about.

>>59286014
If they were good they would have sold better.

>>59286012
yeah we already knew kojo was a weirdo so it's not that surprising.

They should make a Pokémon game for adults with good gameplay and a decent challenge.
I don't mean super kaizo masochist difficult with permadeath in a 20 hour RPG but also not baby easy.
But they won't becaus ethis doesn't make the money.

>>59286023
They have that it's called Champions.

>>59286023
Just play some other monster catching franchise

>>59286028
Palworld is quite nice, even if it's far from perfect and a bit bland. I should revisit it some time.
It's not hardcore but enemies hit very hard and the game encourages you to rotate your pals and dodge enemy attacks by strategically retreating and reentering, all while you have to fight on the field yourself too.
No Absol though.

>>59286023
>for adults
No.

Why are the jannies deleting every mention of the yawnfag? Did I miss something in the rules that say you shouldn't call out niggas farming for (You)s?

>>59286148
we don't schizopost flamewar off topic here btw

>>59286157
Than how about banning the guy doing the trolling in the first place?

>>59286160
There's no trolling here though?

just beat the first gym and am on route 4
is it normal for my starter to already have evolved?

>>59286268
It's completely normal to complete the Pokedex yeah.

>>59286271
Why do you insist on this coy, insufferable behavior?

>>59286341
You know you can just close the screen if you feel anxious or bullied.

>>59286268
I had a full final stage team by the fourth gym in one of my playthroughs

>>59285583
do you have to post this exact thread every week?

>>59286268
the level scaling in xy is awful

>>59286268
Take advantage of the experience share and rotate a bunch of pokemon around. One thing that's nice about modern pokemon is the QoL.

>>59286268
...do people not normally have their starter evolved by the first gym? I'm pretty sure that's been the case for me in literally every game except gen 5 (which has fuck all content before the first gym)

>>59285583
bland but inoffensive plot, even by pokemon standards
annoying progression blockers and story triggers. I mean REALLY stupid.
one of if not the easiest pokemon campaign
region feels unfinished

rollerblading is cool
region has lots of style and atmosphere, even if its ultimately kind of shallow
music rocks
good selection of pokemon

idk even though i think XY are some of the worst games, I look back on them weirdly fondly because i think it laid some of the most solid groundwork. Of all the regions, i would have wished the most for kalos to have given me more reasons to play it for longer. I loved the vibes, and little things like pokemon amie and the player fashion could have made the game REALLY fun if there was a lot of side content to keep the world relevant once you're done with the main story.

>>59286534
your starter usually evolves shortly AFTER the first gym

>>59286645
ok so the issue is I'm just not dogshit at the games, got it

Is postgame all that matters to pokefags? I bet you would hate final fantasy or persona for not having a postgsme.

>>59286654
Only thing that matters is shiny hunting

>>59286654
it is for consoomers, who pay for every single game and then get ridden with sunk costs. Those who emulate or just buy one game occasionally have no issues with shorter postgames.

Postgame is stupid and for niggers.
Once you beat a game after the credits you should drop it immediately. Games are meant to end once you beat the main story. Anything more than that is just like a toddler who refuses to part with his pacifier.
If you keep playing a gameafter you beat it, you are trans.

>>59285665
>"Its lore" is already in XY.
Nope. It's just fucking in a cave with like two dex entries that barely give us shit.

>>59285667
1. Still shorter than the other's mentioned
2. I have no idea how you could get 203 hours of content without at least 80 hours of online battles.

>>59285693
How'd Japanese Blue kill it?

>>59286785
>Nope. It just has lore that's there that I'm arbitrarily not counting

>>59286791
>1. Still shorter than the other's mentioned
Still longer than gen 5
>2. I have no idea how you could get 203 hours of content without at least 80 hours of online battles.
The game has a lot of content.

>>59285704
I played it for about 5 before I got bored

>>59286819
I played it for 900 before I got bored

>>59286782
>who has time to build a house in minecraft? I'm trying to beat the ender dragon!

>>59286654
>final fantasy
FF7 is the most iconic game in the franchise and technically is full of it, unless you're some try hard that goes for the Weapons before Sephiroth.

>persona
Persona 5's peak is quite literally Maruki's palace, which is by all means a postgame palace since the original story wraps up in December.

>>59286782
>Attention span is so far gone that he's unable to get enjoyment out of a game after beating the main story and has to resort to spending 60 bucks to get a new one as soon as possible
Grim.

>>59285711
Tons of content they cut and planned for Pokémon Z. And I can barely recall half of the gym leaders

>>59285726
These games aren't balanced around just using your starter.

>>59285727
>Where is him being made of cells mentioned? Where is all the anime and gen 7 lore?
Nowhere. Also design documents imply they had more planned for Zygarde in XY, so the lore could've been there but wasn't.

>>59286868
>Tons of content they cut and planned for Pokémon Z
such as....

>>59286868
>Tons of content they cut and planned for Pokémon Z
Nope.

>And I can barely recall half of the gym leaders
I can recall all the gym leaders, so evidently they're not forgettable.

>>59285745
>Everyone you met irl is wrong and fell for a scam rehash.
It's not a scam if you intentionally wait for the rehash to release and buy that instead of the first games.

>As opposed to the grand total of 2 pokemon you're screeching about wanting?
There's far more than two

>And it ends up not even having any more routes than XY. So why does XY need a 3rd version again?
And those routes are far more enjoyable and memorable
Quality < Quanitity

>Oh, so just like Emerald then.
Nope. Emerald actually did something

>Why do DStards think "character existing on the screen = character development"?
We don't. Nor did we imply that.

>Rayquaza gets a single extra cutscene with zero extra elaboration on its lore you couldn't already glean from RS.
Actually there's more mentions of Rayquaza in Emerald. More mentions of Sky Pillar etc.

>>59285752
That was never planned. Therefore it's not unfinished

>>59285779
That doesn't imply that it was rushed.

>>59286924
There were never any plans to enter the power plant, therefore XY isn’t unfinished.

>>59285912
probably because the pacing is abysmal and nothing happens until three quarters into the game and then nothing happens after that

>>59285798
Never was intended to be seen, therefore not cut.

Can someone post the leaked plans for the upper gen 6 version from the Teraleak? Perhaps that will shut these fags in denial for good.

>>59285800
It's the yawnfag way. The poor guy should get a job

>>59285880
They didn't fail. Their goals were tied to awakening the legendaries, they did that, and realized "oh we were probably wrong. How to fix this?"

>>59285907
No. They had so much shit planned for those spots

>>59286944
Glad we agree XY isn’t unfinished.

>>59285912
Because it unironically is shorter. Well content wise, not story wise. I found the story to be somewhat longer than others.

HLTB can easily be botted.

>>59286019
Nope. Sales ≠ quality.

>>59286972
>th-this specific game might have been botted for no discernible reason so please believe my worthless anecdote instead

>>59286027
Champions is easy. Everyone is either a bot, or a retard.

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>>59286019
You were saying?

>>59286163
He is. Read the thread.

>>59286268
My starter was level 25 before the gym

>>59286917
>I-it's not a scam if you read the future and arbitrarily wait while everyone else is enjoying the game
KEK no wonder you're seething so hard over no Z version, you waited 3 years like a massive cuck while normal people were enjoying XY.

>There's far more than two
Not really.

>And those routes are far more enjoyable and memorable
Agreed, XY's routes are far more enjoyable and memorable.

>Nope. Emerald actually did something
No they didn't.

>We don't
Yes you do.

>Actually there's more mentions of Rayquaza in Emerald
Why do DStards think mentioning something = lore?

>>59286961
Such as…

>>59286645
Yeah, without grinding and fighting every trainer, my starter doesn't evolve until the second gym.

>>59286818
>>Nope. It just has lore that's there that I'm arbitrarily not counting
Where?

>>59286991
Oh my God, I respect all the anons actually trying to talk sense into this absolute retarded buffoon. Talking with someone so fucking stupid must be so incredibly draining that I would probably just off myself after a single interaction with Kojo.

>>59286818
>Still longer than gen 5
BW maybe, BW2 no way
>The game has a lot of content.
Like?

“In a contest where your opponent seeks to lure you into reckless advances to create openings, true skill and intelligence lie not merely in recognizing the trap, but in refusing to be drawn into it.”

Anons, you all really need to stop considering the yawnfag and just let him screech alone like the autistic faggot he is. Stop giving him the attention that his parents never gave him as a kid.

>>59286898
>>59286903
Tera leak stuff. Half the region, the power plant, new megas, story details etc

>>59286937
There were
Source: Tera Leak

>>59286978
Because XY is the only game that has a schizo defending it. Also a lot of comments on HLTB suspect it of botting

>>59287033
I genuinely don't understand him. Most people in this thread aren't even shitting on XY, just saying that the gen could've benefitted greatly from an upper version, yet he still bitches about them because they aren't saying that XY are perfect 10/10 masterpieces with no flaws whatsoever. Lmfao.

>>59285583
Mediocrity. Starts alright, but goes to shit the moment you get Mega Evolution and doesn't really recover.

>>59286351
>Oh, there's a problem with my behavior? Yeah well how about you ignore it hehe goteem
I can call you out as much as I want you touchless dweeb

>>59287070
especially because you don't get most of the megas until after the champion

>>59287070
how so?

>>59287292
>postgame is suddenly bad now

>>59287033

https://web.archive.org/web/20190723202305/http://www.howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=7141
https://web.archive.org/web/20190824045255/http://www.howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=13937
>Y-YOU HECKIN BOTTED THIS SPECIFIC GAME 7 YEARS AGO!!!

I’m sorry you’re seething so hard at XY having more content that you’re inventing schizo fanfics, anon.

>>59287007
>BW maybe, BW2 no way
It has more content than both.
>Like?
Berry farming and trainer customization.

>>59287386
i would give XY mad props for locking megas to postgame, but only if it locked ALL the megas to postgame.

>>59287028
>>59287025
There wasn’t
Source: Tera Leak

>>59285700
3 bullets, Kojo. BW had berry farming through dream world and nobody believes your shitty narrative. Go finish your dogshit Gen 5 knockoff fangame

>>59285704
>Piss easy maison
>20 minute piss easy Looker epilogue
>10 mins flying around the map at 8 PM to find the last of the mega stones
>MAYBE grinding gym leader rematches on Route 7 to buy all the clothing options
You did not stretch this into "dozens" of hours unless you're actually, medically retarded.

>>59287642
>BW had berry farming through [THING THATS NOT BW]
It sucks that BW was so unfinished.

>>59287651
The maison is challenging

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>>59287745
Consider investing in one of these, you're gonna need it, big guy.

>>59287779
I’m not a gen 5 fan, so I don’t need yours, sorry

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>>59287714
>Dream world doesn't count!!
Literally on the back of the game's box, Kojo. You know what ACTUALLY doesn't have berry farming? Your dogshit, unfinished gen 5 knockoff! Why aren't you working on Pokemon Autism Spectrum you flaming fag?

>>59287787
Of course a retard like Kojo thinks the maison is hard lmao

>>59285755
>>59286964
>>59287714
How do you achieve such insane levels of cope? Like what causes this sheer mental retardation? Out of all the games you could've become an obsessive faggot for, you picked the unfinished, piss easy and severely lacking in content one. Funniest part is that the other games compensate where XY fail miserably, yet you're so far gone that you somehow think the opposite.
It's MGSV all over again, the game is obviously unfinished as you can deduce from its lackluster feel and the literal leaked cut content, yet half of the people will deny that because they're 5 inches deep into the creators' ass.

>>59288375
I'm not obsessed about Gen 1 though

>>59288403
Most importantly, do you do anything in your life apart from seething about XY 24/7? I've seen at least 5 anons arguing with you throughout nearly 24 hours and you replied to each one of them almost immediately. Hell, do you even sleep or is defending dogshit games that important?
Kojo, swallow the pill and accept that the vast majority of the people that played this franchise think gen 6 fucking sucked and you're probably the only guy on this planet so hellbent on defending it.

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>>59288411
Nice try

>>59288413
>Game journalists rated the game made for literal fetuses higher than the ones offering a bit of challenge
Shocking

>>59288416
Yeah kinda crazy that BW is above SM there. Good catch.

I want Tsareena to step on me.

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>>59285607
>The game doesn’t need a Pokemon Z.
>Why would anyone be mad about getting a new game over a rehash?
oh the irony
do you even fucking know that what came after XY was ORAS?

>>59285583
a serviceable video game, albeit one that barely iterates in a series that itself is rooted in its inability to innovate. so its basically a game made from the same template as all of the ones before it but with the shiny marketing tool of the week added in (megas). youll probably have fun playing it because the formula itself is strong enough to constitute a game in it of itself but you wont be blown away and youll probably have completely forgotten youve played it in a month

Sometimes I wonder just how good some gens could've turned out, especially Kalos, if this franchise was treated more like a JRPG series rather than a brand to be used for marketing.

I like gym leaders and the gym leaders in this game suck. Bad game

>>59288563
Almost every JRPG in existence has party wide shared exp and zero postgame, yet those are two of the things retards like you screech about XY for. Do you actually play JRPGs or do you just like to say “JRPG” to pretend that you’re smart?

>>59287044
>just saying that the gen could've benefitted greatly from an upper version
And then when asked how it would improve greatly from an upper version you proceed to have an autistic meltdown when faced with the fact that XY is already better than most upper versions.

>>59288764
Most JRPGs are extremely simple manage health bars and maybe status effects simulators.
Action games make you a lot smarter.

>>59288788
Boring post. I stopped reading after the first line.
Next time put in some more effort.

>>59285583
A bare bones, easy single player campaign, a postgame second only to Gen 1 in lacking content, and an online mode, its only saving grace, that has been shut down. There is zero reason to replay XY.

>>59285583
Wait for X Legacy by Smith

>>59289621
>A bare bones, easy single player campaign, a postgame second only to Gen 1 in lacking content,
Nah there’s tons of content and it has more postgame than anything else except Emerald, Pt, and HGSS

>>59289621
Didn't 3DS hackers bring back online for the gen 6 games?

>>59289633
>KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO legendaries
>Zygarde randomly at the end of one dungeon
>Battle chateau
>Combat mansion thing
>The cafés
Then ur done.
But idk all Pokémongames have bad postgame.
Only Mystery Dungeon has post game, except Gates to Infinity.

>>59289643
Yes. That’s more postgame than every game except the ones I listed.

>>59289633
What? You have one small dungeon to catch Zygarde, literally one room to catch Mewtwo, one "roaming" Gen 1 legendary that doesn't roam, the very brief Looker quest, and the Battle Maison, a simple battle tower. You can finish all of that in a couple hours in one sitting. Every other first game (other than RB) had substantially more.
>GS
An entire second region.
>RS
A good quarter of the region and a bunch of small dungeons.
>DP
An entire island about the size of a quarter of the region.
>BW
Like a third of the region

XY had literally, not figuratively, but actually literally just one town as its entire post game area. It was a slap in the face how little it gave you. At the time people hand waved it off as "well GF was learning 3D, wait for Z version" but then Z never came and ORAS was just as bad. I get that behind the scenes Masuda was being couped and he didn't want this to happen, but it's terrible seeing a once great series fall to laziness because "kids will buy it anyways."

>>59289634
Even if they did, how active is it? I doubt you could connect and play random battles without coordinating with others; you'd be better off playing Gen 6 on Showdown.

>>59289656
Finishing the Battle Maison takes longer than everything you listed.

>>59289646
ORAS had da big legendary hunt at the end, which was kinda dumb but still a lot of fun.
Black and White 2 is the king with the Movie Theater, PWT, Railway, all the post-game routes, minor side locations like the BW1 castle, the ship and the haunted mansion and most importantly that epic post game tower where you could battle all the way up to LV 80. (Should have been 100 but they probably kept it 80 so underage kids with overleveled legendaries can still win).

>>59289666
>Black and White 2 is the king with the Movie Theater, PWT, Railway, all the post-game routes, minor side locations like the BW1 castle, the ship and the haunted mansion and most importantly that epic post game tower where you could battle all the way up to LV 80
All less content than the Battle Maison.

>>59289665
>Battle Maidon
So you are a fetishist and only care about the hot sexy maids in the battle mansion and not the actual gameplay? Figures.

>>59285700
Why does berry farming cause so much sperging on here. It's something you do in the background. You plant the berries before you go to bed/school/work and check on them when you get home.
You guys do realize this right?

>>59285700
>>59289680
Berries are useless trash outside of competetive.

>>59289680
>Why does berry farming cause so much sperging on here
Because it’s such a basic staple feature of the series, yet the game that’s apparently the peak of the series and the pinnacle of Game Freak’s passion and effort, doesn’t have it. Meanwhile, the game that’s apparently lazy, rushed, and unfinished not only has it, but added extra mechanics and depth to it that no one even asked for.

It’s the perfect succinct example of how criticism against XY is completely unfounded, which is why it makes retarded XY detractors on /vp/ seethe into oblivion whenever it’s brought up.

>>59289729
I think the issue with XY is some things are very fleshed out (berries, customization, little things in lumiose, etc.) while others are quite underdeveloped. Probably a result of them figuring out the minor mechanics before the big stuff

>59289672
>59289729
trying way too hard kojo

>>59289790
>while others are quite underdeveloped
such as.....

>>59289880
The game being basically KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOs cumdumpster with CHARIZAAARD starters, two mega CHARIZAAAAAARDs, NO megas for native starters and KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOO post game legendaries with no native sub-legendaries.
Also MEWTWOOOOOOOOOOO gets two megas while Xernas and Yveltal get NONE!!!

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>>59285601
>Pokemon Z scrapped

>>59289887
>it's underdeveloped because pokemon are in the game

>>59289672
Nope. Each movie in Pokéstar takes about 2 minutes on average even when mashing buttons and optimizing inputs. There's more than 40 movies, each with at least three endings. The weird endings are somewhat difficult to obtain and often require something you wouldn't naturally think of.

Average battle in the maison can easily take less than a minute as the trainers there are brainless. You have to complete about 200 battles to get all the rewards in a single format.

>>59289914
Not what anon said

>>59289901
>they made a completely different game 12 years later so it wasn't scrapped!!!!
???

>>59289901
Sure, if you consider that buggy mess that is nothing like what Pokemon Z should've been to be comparable.

>>59289989
Yes what anon said

>>59290007
>NOOOOOOOOOO THAT DOESNT COUNT

>>59290042
>Legends game that has nothing to do with X or Y's story
Why does yawnfag get so much enjoyment from being obtuse?

>>59290047
>the direct sequel to XY has nothing to do with XY's story
Why blatantly lie like this anon? I know it's your modus operandi when it comes to screeching about XY, but this is just sad.

>>59290052
Pokemon Z was meant to be a version of the Kalos experience that didn't actually suck ass and explored the legendary trio.
>the direct sequel
Thank you for saying yourself why ZA does, in fact, not qualify as Pokemon Z.

>>59290068
>Pokemon Z was meant to be a version of the Kalos experience that didn't actually suck ass and explored the legendary trio
XY did this already.


>Thank you for saying yourself why ZA does, in fact, not qualify as Pokemon Z.
So gen 5 is incomplete? Good to know. I hope one day they make Grey version, anon.

>>59290068
>Pokemon Z was meant to be a version of the Kalos experience that didn't actually suck ass
And it already doesn't suck ass, which is why they decided to do a sequel instead

Kalos fans are just kids that never truly became adults. Growing up we all look at the games of our childhoods and realize that they had their flaws, because we matured enough to look at something objectively and critically. Unfortunately, the ones who grew up with XY, being the first signs of the iPad generations, never managed to develop the cognitive abilities required to do that, so they are stuck in their world of delusion unable to see that their games are unfinished horseshit that borrow half of their legendaries from Kanto.

>>59290120
It would help if you referenced actual flaws instead of "WAAAAAH I'M JEALOUS CHARIZARD IS IN THE GAME" or "WAAAAAH THEY DIDN'T SELL ME THE GAME AGAIN BUT WITH A GREEN THING ON THE BOX"

>>59290120
kalos fans don't exist, it's just the one retard

>>59290138
Nobody is jealous of your childhood gen being raped by KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

>>59290182
>Nobody is jealous of your childhood pokemon game being raped by pokemon

>>59290196
What kid in the 2010's would care about something from the 90's?

>>59288713
>Almost every JRPG in existence has party wide shared exp
Almost every JRPG has battles where multiple, if not all of your party members fight at once, where as battles in Pokemon are 99% 1-on-1. In RPGs with 1-on-1 battles, like Fire Emblem and Shining Force, only the unit who participated gains experience.
>and zero postgame
Sure, but Pokemon's extensive postgames are part of what has made it notable when compared to other RPG's. So when that aspect is lacking, like in XY, people rightfully complain. Also, Digimon and Dragon Quest have had multiple games with postgame content.

Do (You) actually play JRPGs or do you just like to say “JRPG” to pretend that you’re smart? Of course, we already know the answer to that, don't we Kojo?

I remember when I first played this game and I got to the section where you could pick your second Kanto starter, I got so enraged I almost smashed my 3DS.
I took out the cardridge and destroyed it with a hammer.
Only years later I learned that the entire second half of the game and postgame got raped by Kanto which was pretty pathetic so it was a good thing I stopped.

people do be making up stories like that