MOBILE COMING EditionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch with a mobile release later. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>/vp/ Champions TournamentThe first of hopefully many /vp/ Champions tournaments will be held soon in early June. All anons are invited to participate in a no-banlist, single elimination, BO3 bracket following standard rules, where the winner will be declared the reigning Champion.Anons interested in joining are advised to list their time zones to determine the best possible tournament time for everyone involved. Registration will be performed with Challonge.>NewsEnter the code DRAG0NDANCEPTC26 for a free Gyarados.>Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enNew Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Mega Kalos starters and E-Floette require ZA transfer.>/pcg/ OP pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPh (embed)Previous: >>59325275
>>59331220Draft League signups.
Wonder if I can even get good at the 3 Support Mons + 1 Mega Mon team gimmick with dual Megas.
>>59331307>same day the next regulation, Regulation M-B is due to beginNew mon lineup for mobile release?
>>59331349Yes. We don't know what's being added beyond the Raichu megas currently, but everything points to a sizeable new wave of mons being implemented.
>using HOME and Sword to prepare Pokemon to use in Champions>haven't touched Champions in days, been just playing with Wonder Box and getting my hands on legendariesI'll be ready when they start opening up the roster, not gonna rely on the gacha ranch
>>59331349calirex
>>59331349I just hope they give us a heads up of more than a month if they're rotating anything out. I have a bunch of Pokemon I want to get Professor for.
Using Tamer instead of Professor since it's lewder
Don't forget to sing up for the fun short tournament this weekend : >>59328304
>>59331397I decided to do this when the Switch version was announced and see how far I could get just using Pokemon Go and day-trading on the GTS.The answer is>a living form dex, except for having all mythicals because you can’t trade them on the GTSThe biggest issue here is that Magearna IS coming to Champions 100%, it got a mega in Z-A, but the only way for me to get it is to have all the mythicals in the dex prior to it. Which means if it turns out to be good (and it will, Soul Heart Mega Mag next to something with Final Gambit is 100% going to be a meta strat) I’ll be locked out of using it. But everything else I’ve got, or can get (since Zeraora is coming to Go in July)
The last pokemon game I bought was Sun. I've been relying on ranch just fine for now, but if they add more pokemon impossible to get without other games it will suck. If (when) we get a meta with legendaries and mythical we better be able to get them in champions or I'll have to quit.
>>59331397>Meanwhile i refuse to "cheat" and play ranch onlyIt's not too bad really, unless you suck so much at drafting and picking and only copypasta meta teams and builds.
>>59331506Thats the million dollar question, innit.Floette is not a good sign, but they really have no choice than to just give us kyogre and groudon, else people literally cannot play the game for free and the ranch becomes useless.
>>59331506>>59331514Hopefully Floette is the only time they pull this shit. Seemed like a sleazy way to get a few more ZA sales. With mobile release they CANNOT do this exclusive crap anymore since they won't have access to the Switch titles.
Why wasn't meganium in the top 100 of the regional?
The Raichads are winning
Serebii Update: Mega Raichu's abilities have been confirmedMega Raichu X has Electric SurgeMega Raichu Y has No Guard
>>59331552okay based
>>59331553>no guard zap cannonOh dear.
>>59331549Meganium suffers for the sins of more powerful fairies.Lots of extra poison coverage.
>>59331553MegaChu X is going to be better. Imagine the kinds of teams you can make with the future paradox mons.
>>59331556Doesn't get Zap(currently), but Thunder and Focus Miss on that high of a speed and special stat on a mon with Nasty Plot is going to be wild.
>>59331553physical slower one got the terrain
>>59331556Looking through it's moves Zap Cannon is awkwardly the only thing that benefits from No Guard that you'd actually run.>>59331570It gets Zap Cannon in Champions.
>>59331576Wait nvm is gets Focus Blast that is def relevant
https://news.pokemon-home.com/en/page/773.htmlThe mega stones will be given out just like Dragonite. Real question if either will be good
> Raichu Y has No Guard Zap Cannon and Focus Blast coming off of 160 Base Sp.AtkThis shit's going nuclear lmfao. Raichu X will probably be more niche due to it's unfortunately awkward speed tier but when stuff that synergizes with Elec Terrain comes back (Electric Seed, Future Paradoxes) I think it'll see an uptick in usage.
>>59331585>Real question if either will be goodThey are both going to be insane now that we know the abilities.
>>59331585>perfect accuracy zap cannon with 160spA and 130spe>terrain setter for future paradox They'll be alright.
Electric Terrain also prevents Sleep so there's that too
Expect sleep to die on the vine now that there's an electric terrain setter.
frankly we just dont have ANY good electric mons.No, archaludon dont count.Rotom is just okay in terms of support
Since X gets Electric Surge, there's a high probability we'll be getting other terrain setters added too. If Indeedee drops the meta is going to explode, god forbid Rilla along with it.
>>59331602Willing to bet Rilla loses Grassy Glide.
>blocks your path>drops a nuclear warhead on you>also paralyzes youPikaGODS, our time has finally come
>>59331602Tapus soon
>>59331560You don't even need paradox mons for it to be good. It's the ultimate terrain war winner because it gets the ability on mega evolution. Just like with Zard Y being a bullshit weather setter.
>>59331602Didn't even consider that, they could be bringing in all the pre-release mons we saw in footage/in icons (Indeedee, Ursaluna, Pawmot, the Rai Megas obviously) but weren't there on launch alongside maybe the rest of the missing Megas for the Mobile release.
Is it time for Raichu supremacy?
I'm more surprised it's Mega Raichu and not Mega Pikachu
Imagine an ability for one pokemon that gives its moves +1 priority, but only at full health.When it's not at full health, all its moves are -1 priority.What would you name that ability and who gets it?
>>59331616They don't seem to like giving Pikachu new forms that greatly change it's appearance. It's gigantamax form is just fat with a longer tail.
>>59331615What could they release at the same time that completely cucks Electric types?
>>59331618That's just post-nerf Gale Wings but even worse somehow. It'd have to go to a mon that has a 600+ BST statline for it to see any usage whatsoever>>59331622Ursaluna (though it gets giga-gaped by Raichu Y Focus Blast without Assault Vest lmfao)
>>59331622Raichu NOT mega evolving is the biggest threat to Mega Raichus lol.
>>59331602I've been assuming this whole time that the non-Tapu terrain setters will be coming next, but now I'm kinda thinking that they won't be. Megachu-X is no Miraidon; Rillaboom would kill his viability. Surely they want him to be good for at least one regulation.
>>59331623>it's gale wingsCorrect, but I could easily see it being busted on the correct mon. So who do you have?
>Fake Out, Knock Off, Volt Switch, Nuzzle, Volt TackleX isn't going to be bad by any means, but my money is going to Y for being the bigger meta threat unless some particularly potent ET abusers are added in alongside it. >>59331622Just Ursaluna, really, but Y's Focus Miss stomps that no issue.
>>59331626Raichu rapes other terrain setters because it happens on mega. They will want to bring in other setters into the format to show off the rat.
>>59331628A slow mon who's already not expecting to go first, I guess? It's also have to find use outside of TR because priority stays the same there even if Speeds are inversed, so it'd just be a bigger detriment there. I dunno, Cresselia or Amoonguss maybe?
>>59331632Just use bothX for support while Y fires terrain boosted Zap Cannons
>probably one reveal per day until 17thI don't hate it
So it turns out the teeny tiny little clip of Raichu X on electric terrain from one of the trailers did in fact spoil it's ability.
>>59331639That would be a sick team comp for a hypothetical 2v2 player battle.
>>59331618First strike, also give it to Archeops because defeatist needs a redo
>>59331640My boy's just gonna get trash like Battle Armor or Inner Focus...
>>59331649That's actually the mon I was thinking of.
Dear GF, can we please have a bo3 ots ladder?Thanks.
>>59331655judging from how master duel does it, no.it takes too long, if you quit once, youll quit again anyways, the disadvantages outweigh the benefits(i feel like we do a lot of comparisons to yugioh in this general)
>>59331655>>59331658A lot of these would've been still unlikely, but a little more possible if the games weren't on mobile since to developers mobile = fast games people are going to play when they're fucking outside so they can't have you stuck on a BO3 which would take at least 10-15 minutes
>Terrain format nextHoo boy
>>59331605I need to shiny hunt pika/raichu now because the regular mega colors looks like shit
>>59331668Bo3 sets would take around 20m, but up to 30m depending on the sets.I think it's important to provide an option in the "VGC" game that reflects tournaments since the bo1 ladder is trial by surprise and not reflective of tournaments. Right now that option is fulfilled in a fan simulation to great success. There's a lot of games played in Showdown's ots bo3.I'm not seeing the barrier if people understand that the second ladder is for tournament prep.
Wake me up when Darkrai's let in, not touching the game again until I can make the one Mega team I want to cook with more than anything else.
>Raichu X is dead on arrival by simply being a physical mono Electric type>Raichu Y will be a fun gimmick for a week before its zero physical bulk makes it impossible to useNever had too much faith in these
>>59331307>>News>Enter the code DRAG0NDANCEPTC26 for a free Gyarados.this one is over i think>available until May 31st 2026
>>59331750I'll take it out next thread.
>>59331618AmbushGive it to Mega Scrafty
>>59331622Landorus lol
Imagine an attack like focus punch, wind up at start of turn, negative priority to launch.The attack starts at just 40BP, but if the pokemon is struck once it becomes 140BP, twice and it becomes 240BP. You cannot self proc.
>>59331984>anon gives his annihilape an iron ball
>120 base power thunder wave
post teams
>>59331354It'll be the terrain meta with all the new megas and a completely new pokemon set. Instead of weather wars you'll be terrain warring
>>59331650>Battle Armor>trashgotta love low elo trash.
Why is everyone saying omg raichu is incineroar 2? Are they retarded? It's clearly Rillaboom-Electric.
>>59332023Stalin wins this if he figures out something to set trickroom
RaichuX will be SPECIAL>252 SpA Raichu-Mega-X Rising Voltage (140 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mew in Electric Terrain: 231-273 (67.7 - 80%) -- guaranteed 2HKO>252 SpA Raichu-Mega-Y Zap Cannon vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mew: 229-270 (67.1 - 79.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKOWill be using his good attack for knock off + bluff support. Last move nuzzle or extreme speed or volt switch or encore.For comparison:>252 Atk Raichu-Mega-X Volt Tackle vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew in Electric Terrain: 262-309 (76.8 - 90.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO33 to 39% recoil>252 Atk Raichu-Mega-X Thunder Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew in Electric Terrain: 165-195 (48.3 - 57.1%) -- 91.8% chance to 2HKO
>>59331553What do we think the chances are that Weezing, Indeedee, and Rillaboom also return in M-B if they're giving us a mon with Electric Terrain now. What do we think the chances are they also give us the Tapus?
>>59332176>tapusno. 0% there's any legendaries, but the others...
>>59332183Regis + Tapus being added wouldn't be that bad. It wouldn't be the first time they add some of the lesser legendaries to a Regulation.
>>59332207I just can't see them doing it alongside other powerful stuff. Like once we get all the non-legendary megas, then the next one being sub legendaries like paradox, birds/tapus, and UBs.
>>59332207A reg F style, non-restricted format will happen sometime.Possibly even the next reg after worlds.
MDB running the most hitler team ever seen
>>59332226In SwSh they added just the Swords of Justice the same time they added the Isle of Armor Pokemon. I remember because I expected them to be a big part of the Player's Cup and instead they were total no-shows. In general though, they add legendaries in large batches. I'm just saying there have been times they've dropped in just a few.
>>59331604I hope the fuck not, it'll put Basculegion in its rightful place
>>59331616>>59331621Pikachu couldn't get a Mega based on the rules of Mega evolving, it can only be the final form - Floette is the exception because it can't evolve (and has Florges stats anyways so its technically a 'final evo'). That being said, they def made two so one could be 'Mega Raichu' and the other a spirit 'Mega Pikachu', especially if you look at their shiny colorations. They def regret giving Pikachu an evolution lmao
>>59331618Cheap Shot or Blindside - you get a quick first strike in that no one expects, but they're prepared for the rest after they get a hit in on you. I'd give it to a slow but strong Dark-type that usually isn't moving first anyways like Pangoro or Crawdaunt. Crawdaunt could fit it maybe since it loves to challenge people to fights (first prio attack), but gets cowardly when it loses its pincers (losing HP, moves after opponents as it's trying to 'back out').Bonus points for a slight ability change - Mega Golisopod, but the +1 prio applies until its below half its max HP, then it swaps to -1.
>>59331616It would ruin the lore of Mega
>>59332296>they def made two so one could be 'Mega Raichu' and the other a spirit 'Mega Pikachu'wasn’t this stated on their descriptions when they first came out?
>>59331307Green is my Pokemon Champion
X should have been a flying type
>>59332417but how would it benefit from the electric terrain it just set up?
>trainer sent out Wolfe's incineroar!I throw up in my mouth when this happens
Howwwww do you hit a heatwave on me and I miss the rockslide on your Charizard aaaaaaahshsjajsjxjd so sick of this fucking zero iq piece of shit on every other team
>>59332430Because it should have gotten No Guard and Y should have gotten Electric Terrain. X whole thing is being able to fly with electricity. You know what, I take back the flying type, it should have gotten levitate.
>>59332499I'll make sure to use that instead of the unrivaled now.
I use Chlorophyll Whimsicott to cuck the giraffe and the darkmons.
>>59332608>X should’ve been shit and Y should’ve been the most broken shitter ever because lol lmaofuck you
>didn't get Beedrill professor in M-A>Brother is out of town borrowing the switch, won't be back until after M-B starts.>I am also trash at the game so there is pretty much no chance left to get it once the next season hits with an updated roster.I want to die.
>>59332296Capachu getting a mega NOW
>switch into garchomp to intimidate>garchomp uses rock slide! >its a critical hit!>ok well ill just dragon dance next turn it wont kill me >garchomp used rock slide!>mega gyarados flinched!
If Raichu (either one) becomes a meta threat, is there any chance pic could become a viable option? I know in my heart it will still suck because it doesn’t have good move coverage.
>>59332880Enter Rhyperior
Anyone got a good singles team? I'm still retaining at UB2
>>59332880If it gets Earth Power maybe. The fact it has to mega evolve for lightning rod holds it back compared to just using Rhyperior
>>59332176I can see the other set of starters being released (Gen 3 and 8) even more now that terrain setters seem to be coming back
Time to come up with a Mega Raichu Y team
>>59332048It's Tapu Koko Mega Edition with Fake Out.Comedy gold.
>>59332880Just use a rain team with mega swampert lul
dry
>>59333005just copy any blunder video>https://youtu.be/eGUWEDVVTXo?si=AmG6HP7DDT1fo20HAlso because singles is a lot more streamlined, i think I copied a team from one of his opponent and it works well enough
>>59332880It already is.Run Rotom, discharge lets you proc lightning rod + you do spread damage.
>>59333096
boy i sure love fighting the same 3 teams over and over and over and over
>>59333425Honestly wouldn't mind some mons getting rotated out next regulation
tempted to spend 60k vp on all the mega stones
i played against a guy who spammed nothing but multi target moves all game, even though i blocked all of them with wide guard. he didn't hurt my pokemon but did ko one of his own with earthquake. bot? master ball rank btw.
>>59333444For what purpose? Making the menus more annoying to navigate?
>>59333445Some people are using turbo controllers to farm VP. They have only spread moves in slot 1 while their controller mashes A.
>>59333451for completionists sake, but you're right that would be annoying
>>59333453I faced someone who opened Politoed Female Basc and did double Muddy Water, maybe that was one of them.
>>59331553RaiGODS how are we feeling?
After seeing the mobile version almost being released I downloaded Home, put in trash from Go and I'm trying the wonder trade gacha now. So when will I get anything good?
>>59333521The only time I remember getting something exceptional from Wonder Trade was a Shiny Japanese Scorbunny that passed every hack check I did on it a couple of years ago
>>59333521i sometimes get a couple of random shinies.I still use my shiny lopunny i got, and just got a shiny dedenne this morning. Not sure what to do with it, but its there.
I want new cosmetics in the update...
>>59333546shinies are easy trade fodder for legendariesalso there seems to be a lot of lv100 naughty nature master ball mewtwos going around, it actually takes a while to trade them away since they're not that uncommon
>>59333563This anon wants to make his trainer look like a WHORE
>>59333574whores just do it for the money
for those that are interested in doing draft league, would you prefer to do regulation M-B or regulation M-A?
>>59333599M-B assuming they don't shelve any mons just quite yet.
>>59333599M-A is finishing up, and while we dont know if it will add, rotate out some mons, or something else entirely, and what that means for our pokemon collection.If they just give us some more shitty megas and raichu, i think lets just keep it M-A. If they actually do a ton of changes, then might be forced to do M-B
>>59333613I think if they were to remove pokemon we would know by now, my theory is that any regulation that keeps the same letter (like we're in the "M" regulations for now) will only be about adding new mons, only when we move on to a completely different format will we probably once again start with a different relatively small pool.
>>59333590sucking dick for cock
It's so weird when I see someone with battle pass cosmetics. It's $1 more expensive than the Fortnite battle pass, doesn't last as long, gives you way less, and what it gives you has much lower value. Do you think they'll ever put out a better battle pass? I know they wont
>>59333637They have to do something about it. The battle pass attach rate must be abysmal.
>>59333637It's crazy how worthless it is, if we get a single outfit for 10 bucks the bare minimum would be to have color variants for each piece. Also the girl/boy versions of the ZA fit should have been a single pass.
>>59333564I'm trying to trade up to Floette since that's the only thing I can't get within Champions. Well maybe Chesnaught, Delphox and Greninja from Z-A for the stones if they don't make those available later. I'm only trying this experiment because someone was saying technically you could make it without a Switch using just Go and Home trading. The only things you outright need from Home from what I can tell are the ones I listed. My Switch is hacked so I couldn't play it on Switch even if I wanted to.
>>59333639nta but If I'm being honest I'm not entirely sure what they could do given they've already committed to VP never being something you can pay for. I think they'll have to start introducing two new trainer outfits per pass AND maybe introduce cosmetics for specific Pokemon to make it worth.
>>59333445https://youtu.be/IiF1m-0c5_I
>>59333646bro just ask.Ill just outright give you floette and the ZA starters if you want
>>59333647I think Pokemon cosmetics, especially timed themed ones would get some people to pay.
>>59333646ZA starters aren't hard to get on GTS, once you get one you put it in Champions for the stone then pull it out and trade it away for the other 2Good luck with Floette though, practically every Pokemon has a list of trade requests asking for the same fucking thing so you're going to have to offer something different if you want to stand out
>>59333654I guess so. I can't trade within the actual games so I can only use Home. I only just downloaded it today after they officially announced the release date of Champions on mobile. How would I do it? Do I just put up trash and request the Pokémon or add you or something?
>>59333668yeah just put whatever on gts tradeim at work rn so ill send it in 7 hours or so
>>59333613I also don't know how champions will handle previous regulations, will they be unplayable completely? or will you be able to choose which ruleset?
>>59333688How does regulation work in SV? Do they take out a chunk to replace with a new roster?
>>59333673I put up this female German level 1 Scorbunny. Apparently Floette is the most bullshit one so I'd appreciate just getting this out of the way. As for the starters maybe I'll just play the wonder gacha bartering game before I ask for help.
>>59333705aight no probs. ill reply once ive sent it over.
>>59333664Yeah my gameplan would have been to trade a random shiny you get from wonder trade for a legendary then trade up to Floette. But I'll take Anon's offer to help if it makes it faster. It's probably going to be really annoying when the game requires Magearna and Zeraora from Z-A DLC to get the stones.
Imagine thinking you want to use rising voltage on Raichu X and forgetting that your opponent must be grounded too.You won't KO Zard Y or any other levitaters or flying types unless they're just frail such that a 70BP move KOs.
>>59333740Does expanding force get hit with the spread move modifier as well if psychic terrain is up?
>>59333664I'm offering a box legendary and nobody is biting.
you cannot use floette because you did not buy ZAi cannot use floette because i only use pokemon in my alt-ball of choice
