all of his battle frontier runs just got confirmed fakehttps://youtu.be/3Q6FKBLon84
>>59358673yeah right
>>59358673Don’t knowDon’t care
>>59358673You're just salty you got your ears raped this morning
>>59358673Imagine starting pokemon as a 7 years old because you think Charmander is cool, then 30 years later you're making a hour-long google dockey video to expose some internet figure.It's just a kid's game bro
>>59358673not the GDQ "nigger" man...
>>59358673bro he literally manipulates time for his shit, like no one cares, this is fake outrage
Literal shit nobody cares about drama
>>59358673There's already a thread about this: >>59358778
>>59358673I don’t know who that is.
>>59358673Oh no what a sad news for the no life regards having nothing better but care about a literal who
>>59358673I have no idea who you are, but you sound like a gigafaggot, a genetically inferior subhuman to be this much of a mega-autist over a children video game, but it gets worse, you choose to be a malicious mega-autist going after some other faggot mega-autist in some pathetic desire for eceleb cred, attention. Thats worse, since this "werster" is a relatively harmless mega-autist that posts timewasting videos about shit no one cares about, while you are doing the same, but also being aggressive for no good reason, ruining everything, your presence here is a form of social pollution, a symptom of terminal onlineness. Its like the worse of sharty and reddit put together .Then you spam you faggot link on /vp/ in a desperate attempt for attention and ad revenue. What a waste of life.Just from that, I can assume that you will degenerate in the future and you will be turned into a complete golem. In what direction? I wouldn't know, but if in 10 years I find out your a school shooter, you trooned out, meltdown in front of your family and get put in prison, you married your "AI wife" and rot in your bathtub. None of these fates would surprise me. I don't even need to guess, I've seen this played out so often in 36 years of life.>stop reposting thisno
>>59358673>nigger guy got caught cheatingpottery
>>59358673I didn't like nor fully understand the video about whoever werster is, and I never played the emerald battle frontier seriously. The guy's voice is kinda annoying and has this autistic tone. But this video showing some e-celeb getting a high doubles factory streak in pokemon emerald:https://youtu.be/b8azNE6WJFMWas really cool. Even for the building that seems to be the most RNG based, there's a lot of thought and strategy involved in almost every step of the way. The Quagsire fight was kino. I found new respect for singleplayer pokemon and I am tempted to believe that guy is right about werster
Always knew that tranny was cheating
>>59358691it's clearly not given people are trying to get clout and money
>>59360034wester troons mad
debate done
>>59361307ah yes the person who's been in the speedrun/challenge autism community for 15 years and is constantly outspoken about rulesets and how to play video games "simply didn't know any better"lol. lmao.even if he claimed it as his own thing it doesn't make sense. he uses the 212 pb to compare against his current attempt, so he's just lying to everyone, including himself
Did he ever address the Sarah Hagan thing?
>>59358778>>59358778>>59358778
>>59361307where did he write this
>>59361543in his sekret discord
>>59361539>bump limit on page 10Stupid nigger
>>59361544post the rest, i'm not joining that shithole just for the lulz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcBbE3t6cLA
>>59361625Based
>>59361625So anyone found the post on he's talking about?
Werster more like Worstest
>>59361625>13 years ago
>>59361625>trihex at the back doesn't even give a fuckwhat a time
>>59361625kek
>1 minute apart
>>59358673Did he make money off of cheating? Not ad revenue but actual money?
>>59361655What's the difference? He made money from streams larping as a Factory expert and shitting on the rest of the community. It also puts his speedruns and livelihood into question.Throw shit, be prepared to eat shit.
>>59358673Lol speed scrubs trying to take a shot at the autism king. Werster finna weather this shit and go back to setting world records. He's THE POKEMON SPEED RUNNER BAR NONE. Just like how Wolfe Glick is THE VGC PLAYER.Stay mad verlisfy fox furries. One word. Shofu.
>>59361625The last good agdq
>>59358673on our way into the S N C A
>>59361828No one cares about getting WRs on categories you made up, Werster. Go back to gen 1 speedrunning if you want to stop larping.
>1:19:25 min long video of a faggot autist sperging out>no proof>werster didn't even submit his runWhy would anyone care?Also, fuck LGHDTV+ niggers.
>>59361961werster you have a starmie3 manip to be practicing get off 4chan
>>59361961Why are you still posting this for a 2nd day in a row in a different thread LMAOOOOOOO pathetic
>>59361961you got exposed tranny
>>59361961w0rster admitter it was cheated doebeitson
>>59361967>still calling me 'Werster'You seriously need to get a mental health check.>>59361971Isn't this your third thread so far? I only saw the last thread and that you got a janni to delete one or more of my messages. Thus I had to redo my previous statement. But don't fret, I shall write no more since I already achived what I planed.
>>59361985I haven't made a single thread schizo lmao
>>59362008>>59358673>>59358778>>741079760Nigger, what? Oh and if you spefically mean (You) well for me it doesn't really matter which of you mentally ill transtards created these threads since it's most likely a discord 'raid' anyway.
>>59362022sorry>>>/v/thread/741079760/
>>59361927Werster is an innovator and beats games faster than anyone else in the world. Cope. Seethe. Verlis will never beat Shofu.
>>59362045He loses records and pussies out of getting them back all the time, then goes "oh I got a good run, I just lost interest in the game" lol. What a fucking faggot he is.
>>>/v/74109760kino thread
here u go lil bro>>>/v/741079760
>>59362084>ctrl f tranny>67 results>ctrl f troon>32 results
>>59362125kino
>>59362051Show WR progress runs faggot. Or are you just a no speed running furry?
>>59362133werster deposited $0.01 into your bank account
>>59358673Who?
>>59362133Why does he never stream his own routing? I'd much rather watch that than him RNG manip his starter for hours. Or is he somehow editing his game too? We'll never know.
>makes a community he hates so mad they spend 2 years investigating a shitpost run>even with that, all they have on him is he used rng manip in a run for fun and didn't tell themHonestly, based.
>>59362159Yep, that's why he had to publicly apologize and change his behavior. It was just a joke guys!
Wibbler won
>>59362167>my bad guys lol>I swear I'll be better *wink*Yeah anon they sure got him begging for his life there.
>>59362159He wouldn't be deleting comments if he weren't mad as fuck lol
>>59362182you lost and got exposed, tranny
>>59362185he already seethes about lrxc and bans people bringing him up, he'll do the same about this like the tranny he is
>>59362157Lol. This guy can't box with werster and when the inevitable speedrun race challenge comes down the faggot magpie labs will chicken out and run like verlis ran from Shofu. This magpie really spent a massive amount of time putting together a bunch of bullshit to try to claim the supreme autism werster is cheating.It's gonna come down to some sort of real life challenge and your guy is gonna be the one backing down. Werster is POKEMON SPEED RUNNING.
>>59362197no one cares about speedrunning troonie
>>59362201Then why are you posting in a thread about a speed runner?
>>59362207This thread isn't about speedrunning, but you probably cheated those too. Keep up, werster.
>>59362197kek keep trying to rewrite history trannywerster got exposed as a shitter after talking big about the factorystay mad. seethe and dilate troon
>>59362197So why is the Yellow video still private?
>>59362255it was during a very emotional time ok he just wants to forget about it
>>59362197Magpie is the player Werster dreams he could be. Werster is always going on about how much better he is for not using calcs and tools, gets caught using them on stream, has to fake a record run to try and show how much better he is and gets caught doing that too
>>59362258>Werster gets basic recall egregiously wrong during his live commentary, but will magically fix this after a suspiciously long pause where we see him look away from the game's console and towards his laptopLOL
>>59362197Werster can't play well if he isn't manipping and in full control of the situation. Calling yourself the best at Pokemon holds no water when you do something with no competition and interest to begin with, but cheat if there is.
>>59358673>confirmedcoolcan we get some proof now?
>>59362300>Werster can't play well if he isn't manipping and in full control of the situationeven then he doesn't play welldo something people actually care about if you want to be the best, not hide behind something like you always have
>>59362301>high school dropout doesnt understand statisticssorry your parents failed you
>>59362312so that's a no then?
>>59362301See >>59358673
>>59362301Yeah right here he admitted it was fakehttps://litter.catbox.moe/chb8cz0la983xijq.txt
>>59362321>rewatching the video triggered me. That run was done when I was with people who I ended up falling out with many years later in a way that hurt me a lot, and I just wanted to erase that from my mind.every time, what a fucking fruitcake
>>593623131 in 1.5 trillion. You think the odds a troon like you kills yourself are higher?
>>59362321>>59362327I didn't rng manipulate the whole run... it was a bad time for me :(
>>59362338okay so there's no proof that he cheated, i got it
>>59362353Nice try W0rst0r, you got raped.
The few troons in his discord deflecting and doing damage control are quite funny
>>59362355or you could just provide one?
>>59362360yeah right here>>59362321
>>59362360see >>59362318 and >>59362321
>>59362364no proof there either
>>59362358lmaoremember kids, as long as you don't claim WR, nothing matters!
>>59358673God who the FUCK cares what one guy does in a 1P game?Don't give it attention, don't even post about that shit here.
>>59362378hi werster, is macca's hiring?
>>59362373Well... Yeah. It's only the record rules which say you can't RNG manip. I can RNG manip a battle factory set right now, are you gonna make a hit piece on me?
>>59362373This was obviously how he always intended it to be. Get a fake record, but never outright say its fake. So anytime someone talks about the actual world records you or your fan can just drop that yeah this guy got big run too whatever. And when you get caught just say that WOAH i never said it was legit!
>>59362385nah. just make sure you treat it as manip'd run and acknowledge that nobody actually cares about manip'd runs.
stadium 2 held item / catch rate: you can trade your gen1 mons to gen2, give it a held item, then trade it back to gen1. it won't reset back to the catch rate. that explains how the held item assigned by stadium somehow "mismatches".now, could he have brought a mon that has never been backtraded to gen2? okay.
>>59362398There was some discussion in his discord claiming it was based on the items in his bag in Yellow. QC would line up with the Poke Flute. Why that's the case we don't know.https://glitchcity.wiki/wiki/The_Big_HEX_List
>>59361625>Werster had the original upload taken down>the one where the video title got updated every year to match the current yearFuck you Werster.>>59361636I don't think the /vg/ archives from that far back survived.
>>59362321he didn't fucking admit anything. He basically said, "if you want to call it fake, you are allowed to express your opinion as such."
>>59362604We can read just fine thank you, shitposterr-kun.
>All this shit to expose Werster ended on discovering undocumented stuff for Stadium 2Werster and his circle fucking won
>>59362669It's fucking nothing lol
>>59362669What was it, was it related to this >>59362407 or this >>59362398That second one isn't really undocumented, just one of those somewhat obscure things which makes you slap yourself when you remember it because it should've been obvious, like obviously you're allowed to put items on mons in the time capsule even though gen 1 mons can't hold items because otherwise you wouldn't have any way to get the gen 1 -> gen 2 transfer held items, so naturally the game needs a way to handle mons from gen 2 being traded back to gen 1 while holding an item, as well as make sure to somehow update the mon's data to specify that you've already taken the gen 1 transfer item off so you can't generate infinite transfer items from one mon.
I don't get this stuff, if he was just going to cheat why even do it in the first place?Just so he can "argue in good faith" with his viewers?
>>59362696He wants to larp as the king of Pokemon or whatever and he's jealous of the good Factory players. The "tools are cheating" shit isn't about the integrity of the runs, it's to gatekeep others from competing by following a ruleset he himself doesn't follow either.
>>59362696Because he is insecure. Werster has long positioned himself to be the "best" pokemon player in the world. It is his entire identity. It is all he has. He has no skills, no job, no wife (his brother took that), nothing but Pokemon.Then come along the frontier players, Wildcat, Magpie, Goomer, LRXC, all displaying extreme techinical mastery over the game in such a way that Werster never could. Werster talks shit all day up and down, but had no ability to back it up and thus had to establish his qualifications to talk shit on Factory players. So he fakes a casual 2nd place. He flaunts it around to make sure no one questions his authority on the matter. Because without it, he no longer even has Pokemon.Because it turns out the only skill speedrunning takes is time of day to play the game. Unlike Factory, which involves decision making and risk weighing aka an IQ check, one that Werster fails. The leaps and bounds that factory players have been making have left Werster in the dust, just like his wife did, and his ego couldnt take it.
>>59362740Its odd that he cares about the factory at all, his lane was always speedruns, and none of the others even compete in that. Does he seethe about smogon or vgc players despite not competing with those either?
>>59362740>decision making and risk weighing aka an IQ checkchecking a spreadsheet and damage calc to see which move the ai is most likely to use on which pokemon is what a midwit would call an iq chevk
>>59362789He'd shittalk VGC and gen 4 and 5 OU/UU but never had any real success in any competitive format.
>>59362789yes but competitive always has shit takes so it's whatever. i never saw him stream it eithermeanwhile he plays tons of factory and the other players were autistic enough and had enough evidence to fire back
>>59362789He does seethe but can only take it so far because its an easy 1v1 to find out if hes any good. You can only get away with calling Wolfe or BKC a retard so many times before someone says "ok just go to smogon, or go to regionals and square up". And naturally because he speed runs factory, he thinks his opinions are worth their weight in gold on factory, and was dismayed to find out no one cares what he thinks cuz he sucks. Its an easy fix. just fake a record and people will listen. You cant fake beating Wolfe at worlds. You can fake a factory streak.>>59362800Except if you just play according to most likely you will lose. Factory is not about that at all. You have to make the right decisions to position yourself to win in the worst case scenarios which means weighing those worst case scenarios against their actual odds and making the right choice. If its so easy, why did Werster have to fake his run? Why did so many people have to fake their runs? Werster has nothing but time on his hands, he plays pokemon all day long. Surely if it was just luck no skill, or relatively low IQ barrier, he would be 1st place in every frontier category? And yet actually gainfully employed members of society shit down his throat and he cant hang with the best
>>59362740/threadIt was particularly funny seeing retards in the /v/ threads trying to claim that making inferences about the enemy movesets in the factory counted as cheating, on the same level as using rng manipulation to get the same outcomes every single time.
>>59362873I'm betting it was just the same sperg running damage control here shitting up that thread too.
oh hey my thread's still up!
This guy sounds bitter lawl
>>59362969Thats what happens when you get cucked by your brother and your mom helped it happen\https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OvXI-q0naA
Tranny-chan is back. Please come visit us!>>>/v/741107492
>>59362969he sounds hateful and butthurt and he's here shitting up these threads
>>59358673>watch this shit>in the middle of an hour-long game so i can't turn it off>the autismo who made this video spends an hour and a bunch of math that basically boils down to "the vibes are wrong"
>>59363120Moved back here huh?
>>59363120Just watch for 1 minute and 20 seconds https://youtu.be/3Q6FKBLon84?t=30m56sThis is your "HERO" Werster btw
>>59363124>>59363128i actually came here to see if werster had said anything about it and don't care either way if he cheated or noti just think that the framework used to "demonstrate" that he "probably" cheated is poorly constructed in comparison to (for example) the dream cheating allegations for which the construction has far more credible probabilistic analysis.just giving my 2c
>>59363143Maybe offer something more constructive instead of going "it's a bad video" then. Numbers don't lie.But not like it matters, werster already admitted to cheating. As you most likely knew already.
>>59363147Notice not a single person kvetching about how they felt the paper wasnt academically serious or is just fake math etc, never actually have alternatives as to what it should entail. Not a single one of these people, either here on youtube on discord on reddit, can actually tell you what math was used wrong, what math is missing, what math is conjecture. Not one person. It could be a 200 page dissertation and it wouldnt be enoughIts hilarious to see midwits get IQ gapped by basic statistics and think you need any more proof than this
>>59362868>make the right decisions to position yourself to win in the worst case scenarios which means weighing those worst case scenarios against their actual odds and making the right choice.So the same probabilistic solution with extra steps
>>59363151I didn't even need to read the paper or watch the video. If I just saw these charts >>59362300 my mind would've already been made up that werster is bullshitting out of his ass.
WERSTER WON MAGTROON LOST
>>59363169*webster
>>59363156If you want to say factory is a talentless, easy, thing to play that any 80 iq ape could play, all that does is make it that much more embarrassing werster had to fake it
>>59363169*worchester
>>59363169*worster
>>59363157unfortunately common sense eludes most people
Chibi and Werster won.
>>59358673Thank you Werster for helping there be one thread on /vp/ where the complacent trannies that raid here daily aren't treating the entire discussion like yet another excuse to spam porn and ruin Pokemon. Fun thread, based Worcester.
>>59363213chibi won the sex offender any% and werster won the NTR glitchless
>>59363252no way chibi has that record, gotta be hotly contested. isn't his hassle-assisted?
>>59358673Mistyboomers....
It always goes back to the mental illness that is arcadeslop.
>>59359795That thread died so this will be the continuation. I'm ngl I knew his name was familiar but I forgot he was the GDQ "nigger" guy and contributed to Chugga getting shitcanned (beyond fading into obscurity).The anti-RNG manip rules are incredibly spergy, but the played hours being incorrect is an obvious sign that he edited his save file lol. What a sad thing to cheat, but it did give him success they can't strip away.
>>59363297What success did it give him? It just exposed him as a petty liar.
>>59363284in the /v/ thread? what was the deal with that?
>>59363321The schizos repeating the same garbage defending werster are the same ones ruining the shmup threads on /v/ by being hostile to everyone not in their little samefag circle. I wouldn't be surprised if those troons are here too.
watching a few days old streams from exarion on 2x and man if you think magpie disliked werster, you have no idea. this nigga out for blood
>>59363342I never heard of him until now, apparently the beef is ancient and werster has a history of doing this shit. Still he talks like a fag so I won't watch any more of him.
>>59363344i've heard of him from him doing stuff with other pokemon groups. he does sound pretty gay but seems like a decent enough guy. outside of speedrun stuff like summoning salt or pulse effects, I think he's taken part in a few "fun" challenge run stuff like beating yellow with mew only for some other youtuber
>>59363342apparently what was released was the "dialed back" version, he purposely didnt include things like werster saying word for word it was a legit run (despite now claiming its rng) for example, and other vod clips. He really should have gone for the jugular, he left wiggle room. werster and his troon fanboys took it and ran>>59363344wersters been poking the hornests nest for a while now, hes just british they sound like that
>>59363342holy shit, this dude has spent 18 hours "analyzing" this on stream and is still going. what type of mental illness is this
>>59363361Werster has at least once tried to push him out of speedrunning because he was better than werster and very obviously cheated to do so. This has to be an insane feeling of vindication for him.
>>59363358>He really should have gone for the jugular, he left wiggle room.I agree, but he claims there were copyright and fair use issues, and he didn't want to deal with a copyright strike.Reaction channels get away with far more, but I think he doesn't want to risk losing the video. Those channels don't give a fuck, they made their bank already.
>>59363361blood in the water and everyone can smell it
>>59363412I mean this guy really hates werster, deservedly so. Karma is a bitch sometimes.
Maybe late to the party but the 1:55 Yellow run was reuploadedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5scMwusN0xc
>>59363481why didn't werster just unprivate it himself lmao
>>59363485lol why do you think
>>59363481inb4 he demands to get it taken down like his nigger clip
>>59363488it triggered him obviously :)
>>59358673>Country full of convicts and criminals cheatYouvdont say
Pokemon speedrunners just gamble with their time it's more pathetic than runescapers
I still can't beileve how pathetic that one guy has been trying to defend werster on /v/ and here for hours on end yesterday kek
When's the part where Misty sits on my face?
>>59363669it's werster himself
everyone involved in this seems insufferable
>>59363763It's always them, the transtards and gaytists
>>59363365why are you referring to yourself in third person
My additional context as a person who has been following all of this drama since forever and explains a bit about potential motive:Werster does battle factory speedruns to 42 wins for years, is the best, but competition is quietA guy called LRXC comes along who specialises in streaks, starts blowing up on youtube because he has good SEOWerster has a long-held belief that using calcs and spreadsheets is "dogshit" and should be considered cheating. He uses a bit of a slippery slope fallacy of "well if you allow calcs then you could extrapolate this to a tool which can determine the RNG state and tell you when to press the buttons to always get the same outcome, therefore all tools should be banned, including even using notes". This is not a popular opinionCalcs and spreadsheets are already an established standard in the high streak community LRXC is from, and he uses them openly without considering anything about it being wrongLRXC beats werster's most competitive factory speedrun record, then puts a picture of werster in his thumbnail and titles the video "werster cant hang??"He's pissed and starts planning a video calling out calcs and spreadsheets saying they should be bannedAll the while people in chat want werster to do high streak attempts, because it's popular right now and naturally werster having a chip on his shoulder has something to prove and wants to do it without calcsHe can't, he's actually not good at high streaks with or without calcs, and struggles to compete. Still wants to show them who's boss and call them outPasses off a high streak in doubles as being "without calcs, spreadsheets, or manips", when, as he admitted yesterday following this video, he did use manipDoesn't submit the streak to any leaderboard but uses this streak to give him more credibility to influence the streak community's rules, give his opinion more weight, etc.Mentions in the callout video that the 212 was without manip and we now know it wasn't
>>59363917now see the werster defense force call you a tranny for plainly stating the truth. he got EXPOSED
>>59363763That's the speedrunner community for ya.
>>59363926This timeline is actually giving Werster a lot of benefit of doubt by assuming that the RNG manip explanation with Starmie is actually true. Which is doing a lot of heavy lifting on its own as no one has ever seen him do this and he said today he would refuse to demonstrate it. It also doesn't go over some deep context on his character but who fucking cares
>>59361625>cemented Werster as gigabased and the most dedicated cancer-fighting warrior of them all>tries his hardest to remove it from record of ever having happenedBut why
Battle Frontier autism is so tiresome, even for someone like me who has easily 4,000+ hours on the mainline games. It's a good thing Game Freak took your mode out back and shot it so it wouldn't be in future games.
>>59363961go back to your lane low IQ shmup monkey, you don't understand gameplay
>>59363917LRXC did that thumbnail thing in good fun, I assume without the knowledge of how much of a retard werster is, and after finding out he wasn't happy with said thumbnail LRXC offered to change it and apologize. That video is still up in his channel so I imagine werster didn't accept the apology. From that point onwards the mere mention of LRXC in his chat gets you a ban lmao
>>59363968>Dude, just raise the best pokemon in the game, spend 10 hours on EVs, potentially 100x longer on IVs, use the best moveset, and get lucky>This takes skilluh huh. I sure don't.
>>59363960ausfailians like the rest of the former commonwealth, are majority liberal snowflakes by nature, as evidenced by the nanny state they all live under
>>59363961>>59363977this brat needs correction
>>59363961battle tree is the best facility they ever made, especially super doubles
>>59358673Why cheat on a speedrun, autists will ALWAYS catch you out lol
>>59364002he didn't cheat, he just got criminally luckyyou're only allowed to be that lucky if you're part of the community
>>59364002He didn't cheat on a speedrun, he did cheat on streak which triggered Factory people autism
>>59364006Nonono, you got that wrong.His girlfriend cheated and he rigs the rng.
I'm waiting for the Karl Jobst exposé.
Every outcome which is favorable to you but not me is manipped.Fact.
>>59363917I watched all of Magpie's videos before all this drama happened, and I loved how turbo autists compiled all the possible factory sets, so you can look up all the info while climbing. To me checking this info is okay, because I can imagine a kid writing down the best mons in a notebook while playing the facility, but damage calcs sound very gay, you can develop a sense of how much damage the attack can do after hundreds of hours of experience, but you are not mentally doing the calculations for every enemy move. >my pokemon has 79% hp but the damage calc tells me the enemys Earthquake can deal between 60-80% damage so it can potentially kill me hurrr what should i do??this is very lame fuck off
>>59358673Werster disposes the battle frontier records. I wouldn't be shocked if he did this to point out their ruelset is retarded
The video didn't even accuse him of rng manip because it still wouldn't explain how fast the streak was. Werster only mentioned it as a misdirection and a humblebrag because frame timing is the only thing he's good at. He definitely save edited but he'll never admit it.
>>59358673>Get lucky for once>Get called out for itNaruhodo
Larping as a girl because he was jealous of Exarion was Werster's real downfall.
>>59364015The irony is the top guys don't even use calculators, at least not with any frequency. Magpie made a whole video on how plain old vibes based on type matchups and statlines is good enough for benchmarks that actually matter. Same goes for flowcharts or assistants or whatever the fuck else Werster harps on about, he claims they're unfair advantages yet nobody with records better than him uses them in the first place. All he really wants to do is kick the ladder from under him and gatekeep newer people from learning, he can't hope to compete with the actual best players so he has resort to bullying those he can.
>>59362600That guy got his video taken down because he's a nigger trying to game SEO which is against YouTubers rules
>>59364015It's a nuanced thing really, different people have different standards for what they consider cheating and sometimes it'll just end up being this weird contradictory state where some external tools are allowed even if they're doing a massive chunk of heavy lifting in terms of how you choose to play the match because it will tell you exactly what Pokemon the opponent has, exact damage calculations, and exactly what the AI will decide is the best possible move for that turn.>>59364028I think it could be feasible with RNG manip though, you spend very little time in-game running the clock up with it judging by the singles RNG manip vid. You manip to get Starmie3 + a good first trainer, then rest in-between fights and hit another manip to make the next trainer have mons which Starmie3 sweeps, etc etc. If Starmie3 completely owns every mon on the opponent's team with very little trouble the battles would go by way way faster than normal because you wouldn't need to think at all, just click the supereffective move. It depends how "easy" it is to hit good clusters of opponent Pokemon for Starmie3 in doubles really.
>>59364015you wouldn't even know the enemy has eq without knowledge of the sets. the set knowledge is pandora's box, the damage calculator just makes it easier to do calculations you could already do yourself.
>>59364048is Exarion her brother? Not even going to call Werster a guy anymore, after this she is now officially bitch made imo.
>>59364057Single and doubles are not the same game. The fact he boasts about starmie 3, with fucking surf as its best stab as some lynchpin for blazing through battles is proof he's talking out of his ass. He'd have to manip every single battle to win them all in mere minutes to make that timer make sense, which seems like way too much effort to do offline, if he was even consistent enough hitting frames to do every single time anyway, which his streams show he clearly is not.
>>59364060>the set knowledge is pandora's boxIs it though? The spreadsheet was made a long, long time agoz You can memorize all the sets yourself and the "tool" you see on Magpie's stream isn't something he can see either. There's nothing that magically tells you "oh this Suicune is Suicune6" from the very beginning, you have to deduce that from your own game knowledge.
>>59358673I will donate $1000 to ASM if Werster "soft-manips" past Magpies factory record and shows it on camera calling Magpie a fucking nigger in the process.
>>59364074>You can memorize all the sets yourselfyou can, but who would besides the players who want to be the best? it removes a skill element
>>59364066Exarion was a new runner at the time that 1-upped werster, but he played on emulator so werster trooned out and tried passing off a poorly made TAS as a WR
IMO:>Damage CalcsFine to use. At most they give people who can’t do mental damage calcs a boost, other than that they might help a bad player know if something is a 2HKO with high rolls or always a 3HKO and change decision making that way but ultimately don’t effect most turns of gameplay with or without >(Gen 3 Only) Phrase / Trainer spreadsheet This one to me is bullshit…I think. It’s static data that certain phrases lead to certain sets. I think memorizing these phrases and what sets they pertain to is a skill. But on the other hand the tool is just making something that could be done with pen and paper simpler. It’s hard to say>AI Choice Prediction Statistics ToolsDunno what to call these but these are bullshit. If you’re playing the game you need to know how the game works. Damage rolls rarely come down to the decimal so who cares, sets are static and phrases can be memorized so meeehhh, but this shit is literally a crystal ball, fuck off
>>59364080Why, because you're removing an unknown? Might as well not learn the type chart to keep it super high skill.
>>59364089All are bullshit and damage calcs are even more bullshit than the statistics tool Werster is right in that regard
>>59364091false equivalencythe sets are supposed to be an unknown, there's hundreds of them
>>59364089>>AI Choice Prediction Statistics ToolsTop players don't need this either, there's extensive research on how the Emerald AI works.I think the real Pandora's Box is a tool that plays the game for you. As in, based on the parameters you give it, it tells you what the best next move is.
We are one dedicated autistic fuck from battle frontier AI bot that plays perfectly optimal and completely elimates speedrunners and streamfags
>>59364072Well allegedly he did all the way to 500 in singles offline just to prove some kind of a point about how broken RNG manipping is so yeah, I would think an autist like him would put in the effort to manipping doubles offline again just to prove some sort of weird point.Even if Surf's damage splits, that's a) more than good enough to take out something with low special defense which is weak to it and b) assuming that the manipped opponents will only be weak to Surf and not weak to Psychic, Thunderbolt, or Ice Beam. In addition, if the draft picks for both singles and doubles are manipped in the same way, it would mean he also has a Rain Dance Thunder Raikou on the same draft as well. If not, then who knows what the partner could be, something that similarly cleans up after Starmie? It doesn't guarantee a win but if you can manip the opponent to have shitty Poison types who die to Psychic or a Dragon which dies to Ice Beam, or some frail Water who dies to TBolt, you'd get through the matches much faster.
>>59364098And yet the sets were all documented in under a year lolWhat's preventing me from playing a lot or putting them on flash cards to memorize them
>>59362789Yes he has. Wersters the most autistic eceleb in the sphere by far
>>59364099Yeah fair point I’ll give you that. The top factory player certainly doesn’t use it and spends 45 minutes per turn…..oh wait>>59364095Why are damage calcs bad, explain
>>59364106>And yet the sets were all documented in under a year lolby how many people? not just one>What's preventing me from playing a lot or putting them on flash cards to memorize themnothing, you're missing the point. you should be able to do that if you want to be a top player, it shouldn't already be done for you. gathering and making use of set knowledge should be a skill.
>>59364113>by how many people? not just oneso your point is everyone should start from zero and make their own spreadsheet?
>>59364110Using an outside tool to gain an advantage is lame and bullshit retard
>>59364102Yet he didn't do it to prove some point like the singles one, he claimed it was legit in the past and only now claims he manip'd by "accident" because it's muscle memory just does without thinking (despite being very inconsistent when he's deliberately trying when live)If it was all part of the plan then why make up another defense instead of saying so? If it wasn't planned then did he just rig every single battle by accident? If it's just every single draft are Raikou and Starmie good enough to win 200 battles in a row, at an incredibly fast pace? The more he tries to explain the less it makes sense, because he's lying.
>>59364115Explain the advantage and stop using emotional arguments like it being lame
>>59364113LolLmaoOnly gay arcadetrannies like onimai nigger would think this
>>59364119>Explain the advantageAre you trolling or retarded?
>>59364116I can't answer that, I'm not running defense for him specifically, I just think RNG manipping is really, really broken and it's feasible to have Starmie3 alone sweep everything even in dubs if you manip the opponents to have shitmons who get fucked by it/its partner, which is relatively easy to do because it's a cluster of frames to aim for not frame perfect
>>59364122So you can’t explain it
>>59364119Are you seriously asking the advantage of an informed decision?
>>59364114>so your point is everyone should start from zero and make their own spreadsheet?my point is that the spreadsheet should have never been made a public resource, set knowledge should have been left as a skill element. but it can't be taken back, hence pandora's box.
>>59364125Trolling it is. (you)
>>59364128pandora's box is when someone made a type chart. name one time game freak made it public. stupid gatekeeping nigger.
>>59364127It’s not as informed as you say it is vs no calc and a good player
>>59363977Hey retardBF requires 0 training since it's rentals
>>59363977Factory is rentalsAnd nooooo you can’t have gameplay in your video game nooooo
>>59364133>It’s not as informed as you say it is vs no calc and a good playerOh so it doesn't matter if it's banned if all the good players dont use them. Good glad we agree
>>59364132It was in one of the gen 3 manualsTourist
>>59364128Pandora's Box is when VBA was created. All Factory streaks should be done at my house in-person so I can verify they made the spreadsheet themselves.
>>59363961People like you legitimately disgust meActing like you’re above everyone else when you’re getting fucked in the same boat as everyone elseUgh is that L-Le….LE FUGGIN AUTISMNO NO NOOOOOO STOP IT I DONT WANT THAT AIIIEEEEE I NEED TO GO MAKE A SNARKY IRONY POST OR I WILL GO INSANE NOW*sigh*………Sex with Kaede
ban all shmupkikes
>>59364138If you only care about the best players and want to gatekeep everyone else then sure
>>59364138If it doesn't matter then why ban it? Crutches for new players don't affect top players like you, werster, or the people who are miles ahead of you that you can't keep up with.
>>59364144Just that one is enough. He's responsible for like 10% of all shit posts on this fucking website
>>59364140Incorrect, try again.
>>59364144>shmup thread dies an hour ago>thread immediately gets flooded with schizos and onimai nigger at the same timeGee who would've thought
>>59364143My Pokemon autism is greater than yours. It is what it is, my guy.
>>59364152Shit you're half right it was one of the official guidebook they printed. Regardless the type chart is literally on pokemons website so pound sand nigger https://sg.portal-pokemon.com/game/type-chart/
I'm not surprised shmuptrannies defend werster, they're just like him.
>>59364124Manip breaking the game was never a debate, it's a fact. The point is that only extensive deliberate manipulation could barely make the speed the streak was achieved make sense, not allegedly casual, accidental frame timing he would need to do every single set and happen to face a set that starmie can sweep every time, like he claimed. It's coincidence to the point of absurdity, which makes it obvious he's just lying about it and either rigged it heavily and purposely or just savescummed losses, neither of which would be "legit" by his own standards, which he insisted it was.
>>59364175Sex with Reimu's armpits
>>59364138>>59364169Pokemon has ALWAYS been meant to be played with knowledge of enemy sets.Every pokemon generation has the gym leader and rival sets in the guide book.Every VGC is played with initial knowledge of enemy drafts, and you see players literally taking notes during to write down the rest. Having access to enemy sets does not make you a good factory player, as evidenced by the fact that werster had to fake his run.>but you know what the ai will do!But you dont because its almost never a 100% chance it clicks a move, Very few exceptions. >>59364124He did not rng manip. He lied about rng manip to cover his ass. His in game time doesnt support it. His literal word for word statements previously claim that his 212 run was legit His own rng manip video shows him screwing up rng manip. Yea he definitely got to 500+ like that :LOL.
>>59364187First reply was about calcs not the spreadsheet. The spreadsheet shit is just extremely advanced notes
>>59358673huge news for the unemployed
>>59364202I challenge anyone seething about calculators to break any single on of the WR in any battle facility with all the tools available. You cant do it
>>59364214With all tools available the limiting factor becomes time. AKA something most people aren't willing to do
>>5936421846000 years for werster, and we know he plays with tools. For shmuptrannies it may as well be never.
>>59364214Can't vs won't. The amount of time needed to beat these runs legit is in the thousands of hours. The only people who don't understand this are brain dead dick suckersThis goes for basically all high level PvE competition in pokemon BTW
>>59364128Lol. It's not the 80s anymore, gramps.
>>59364225>I totally could if I wanted to!sure you could buddy
>>59364128I'm anti tools in general for challenges but this might be the dumbest argument I have ever seen. That's like saying it's basically cheating nowing how the AI works
>>59364238>Bro just invest half your life for the next several years into something you don't enjoyNo
Werster stunting on you hos.
>>59364242Has for years. Now tell him to get back into the RNG mines I need more pokemon "moments"
>>59364240If something's stopping you from doing it then you can't do it, simple as.
>>59364246(you)
>>59364240This is why I will never play a shmup. I have better use of my time than spending half my life configuring MAME settings.
>>59364265btfo
>>59364265Faggot
>>59364284We don't sign our posts here pal
What is this shmup guy going on about? Pokemon has nothing to do with those.
>>59364265BasedFuck battle frontier niggersFuck the shmup nigger And fuck the cuck that is Werster
>>59364297An infamous shmup shitposter avatarfags with mahiro. He gets triggered if you insult shmups
>>59364297The low IQ shitposting is coming from /v/'s shmupniggers. They admitted this in a previous /v/ werster thread. Their avatarfag is also here.
>>59364311It's literally just him. This fag is shitting up half the threads on 4chan at any given time
>>59364225You are a shitter. It only takes 5 hours
>>59364318This guy >>59364321 is a different schizo.
>>59363977Yeah you don't understand, tranny. You'd lose to me in showdown
>>59364321You're either a mathlet or trolling. Sorry I understand basic math. There is a reason the top players have thousands of hours in this shit and it's mostly just RNG checks
>>59364225You sound mad
>>59364323That guy is clearly defending BF fags not Werster. Unless your implying shmup frags are schizoing out on both sides of this argument
>>59364334I wouldn't be surprised. Everything drops in quality once shmups are involved.
>>59364340can someone explain to the employed individuals in the room what the fuck a shmup is
>>59364416It's a gay name for bullet hell arcade games.
The absolute state of Mistyfags lmao
>>59364416Shmup is a 40 year old term tourist. It's just bullethells
>>59364439>touristHi shmuptranny, how does it feel knowing Touhou owns your ass?
>>59363951exarion went autismo about the starmie manip and decided it's bullshit. the pokemon he picks with starmie are ass and opens him up to a lot of issues like crit eq and he isn't maniping the battles to avoid those while also not picking a better team that's available in his same maniped grouping with starmie
>>59364439Yea i mostly post on /trv/ and /t/ sorry I have a life and am only here to shitpost in edrama threads. Real question is why are touhou trannys posting in vp at all
>>59364476Don't associate us with Touhou
>>59364476Mental illness. Next question
>>59364476Arcade shmuptrannies are different from Touhou trannies. Think of their relationship here as werster and Magpie respectively.
>>59364483Interesting. Who is touhou in this situation? Werster?
>>59364487>respectivelyArcadefags are werster. In their tranny-filled threads the schizos want to dish banter but don't have the skill to back it up, but can't take it themselves when Touhou players deal it back and actually post difficult clears.
>>59364483>>59364493Ok I see that makes a lot of sense. But why are they even on this board?
>>59364495Because everyone likes Pokemon
>>59364495Their shitposting reaches across all of /v/ including the werster threadsThey got called out at the end of this one>>>/v/741107492
>>59364501so they're extra butthurt
>>59364506Yeah lol
FASTEST SPEED RUNNER WERCHAMPBALLING ON THESE HOES MAGPIE AND EXXARION LIKE DURANT Werster IS POKEMON SPEED RUNNING.
>>59364509I wish posts like these required selfies, i really want to see who these people are
Why are you still at it? Werster already conceded
>>59364530A concession would be a statement saying>Sorry I edited my save and faked the run I couldnt stand not being able to hit a long streakInstead we just get a load of drivel deflection and lies. The first thing a liar does when called out is lie again
Damn, I liked this guy. Is there no one redeemable in the Pokémon community?
>>59364539only jimothy cool and some vgc players like james baek and cybertron
>>59364539CTC
>>59364128>my point is that the spreadsheet should have never been made a public resourceIt was a community effort from everyone in some random website 9 days after Platinum was released, your point is very stupid.
>>59364559the people making the most of that data, like LRXC, had nothing to do with its collection
>>59364573>You can't use something unless you made it yourselfDoubt you made the device you're posting from, turn it off and make your own, shitter
>>59364547>>59364549ctc and jimothy are foreign assets for the chinese government.
>>59364584He's a third worlder so it's not impossible that he did assemble the iphone himself
>>59364573This is the same logic you shmuptrannies have with never using resources or watching other people's replays when you don't play the games anyway. Go back.
>>59358673why is it always the ones you expect
werstertroons...
>>59364785Lol it's fucking over.
>>59364785He should've gone harder on him. Call him an incessant shitter manchild.
>>59364785heh, he'll think better next time he tries to submit a cheated run to our leaderboard... oh wait
>>59364785>I do not think it would be constructive for me to take this any furtherHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHFAGGOT FOLDED UNTIL THE IMMENSE PRESSURE OF THE SUPREME POKEMON RUNNER WERSTER EVEN WHILE HE'S TAKING TIME AWAY.IT'S OGRE MAGPIE FAGS.
>>59364839This basically. Granted i dont know the full details or ins-n-outs of speedrunning but from what i gather from all this, i dont understand how something is wrong if you simply dont submit the run as a legit attempt. For example, in GTA SA cheats can be activated unintentionally by player movement alone, therefore rendering runs invalid so how come we dont see any outrage on those? If he went ahead and submitted this run as a legit attempt and preeced to brag about it etc etc then yeah it would be sketchy but from my understanding, some things were off in some attempts he didnt even submit as legit and thats wrong because???? This is like complaing about what atheleets do when they practice, like who cares? It only matters when they compete.
>can we get back to video games now pleaseNo we can't. How can you get a 504 streak with a mediocre manip team and fail the manip in your own video?
>>59364863>it was to prove a point nowlmao he's desperate to save face
>>59364862No retard. If I got a 4:54.40 in SMB1 right now, never submitted it, then used it to treat the other top players like garbage, I'd be prepared to eat shit too.
>>59364785am I missing something here?>no profile pic>guestalso, why would werster choose to write in a public pastebin anyway?
>>59364871the pastebin was just a copy of his shitcord posts because not everyone wants to go there
>>59364873so, why not post the original discord post? i don't get it
>>59364863Why was he trooning out as Sarah Hagan
>>59364862It's basically calling out your fat and bald uncle who claims he is ALMOST as fast as Usain Bolt but he got a knee/back injury and can't run anymore but you should respect him because he's almost the best in the world.
>>59364862https://youtu.be/3Q6FKBLon84?t=1867
>>59364877You can't view discord posts unless you join them, you mongoloid. Why would anyone want to join the speedrun tranny server just to read a post?
>>59364892so why go such lengths to 'recreate' in a pastebin? just fucking screenshot it, this way you also have the timestamp, profile pic, etc.this pastebin smells fake this way>inb4 we don't join this trash discordok, but did you get the text? SOMEONE had to be in the discord
>>59364904Calm your tits tranny. It's the same post and yes werster is that insufferable.
>>59364870He is well known for his short temper and also how he doesnt think speedrunning is 100% a community centric thing so whats so surprising here?>He hurt people's feelingsSo do many others but i dont see them getting a grand exposee on how they "cheated" on something they never planned to submit as legit in the first place.>>59364883>>59364890This just seems more like personal angst against him than a legitimate desire to root him out for cheating.>He bragged about a thing!Okay? You can, you know, ignore him? If you KNOW he is not as credible as he claims to be, why pay attention?>He did runs offline!Yes, its called practicing and it is considering how the run, again, wasnt submitted as a real thing.A run only matters when its submitted and later verified by the supreme autists. If that wasnt the case and only livestreams of attempts are enough to suffice as "submitted runs" then i guess i can fire up an emulator, play through the game at x100 speed and claim the WR. Im not saying there's 0 foul play, im saying that this whole thing is rather exaggerated because there's a clear divide between him and the factory runners.
>>59364911>source: trust me brohm, nah, post sauce or get the fuck out
>>59364928It's a problem when you use your fake and unfound influence for you and others to shit on their community about rulesets you don't follow yourself. Stop being retarded.
>>59364932https://discord.com/channels/130535792526229504/130535792526229504/1515659304013660251enjoy bro
>>59364957Don't go to this it's Reimu porn
>>59364957don't click, mustard gas
>>59364950So it basically boils down to "he was mocking us so we gonna retaliate with slander" which sounds about as petty so uhhh, they can just call it even?
>>59364928Genuinely curious: What's your cope for his ingame time not being maxed out?
>>59364964sup werster, i wanna see you in a cute maid outfit
>>59364957doesn't work
>>59364974Get fucked
>>59364974it's deleted now sorry
>>59364976still no original source
>>59364974i deleted it sorry
>>59364968Playtime is not really a good metric because well, runners use fresh save files all the time so this isnt exactly damning evidence.
>>59364974I have now undeleted it
>>59364987you don't know what you're talking about
>>59364987Time to rewatch the essay, nigger. But this time, pay attention.
>>59364976>>59364980>>59364983>>59364988so basically, you transtards made everything up, got it, you seriously hate werster lol
Trust me guys, werster has done tens of thousands of post-42 Factory attempts.
>>59364995the only statistics knowledge werster's drones have is "well it's not 0"
all my stat knowledge comes from the magpie video
>>59364871>>59364904How new are you not to know what pastebin is or how it works?
>>59365030He's a low IQ shmuptranny, be nice.
>>59365030I do know what pastebin is, yet I want the actual source, i'm still waiting
>>59364964Hey now that's just not true. If it's written that's libel
>>59364866Anyone who knows werster knows this was obviously to prove a point that he thinks their ruleset is retarded. He's a very well documented boarderline lolcow
>>59365056is that why he kept claiming it was legit until someone finally called it out?
>>59365056Prove what point? It's not about the 504 run, which was probably save edited anyway since he can't do the manip either.
>>59365072I was unaware this was something else. Tell you how well known this run is
not a good look for troonsters
>>59365020same
>not posting original sauce of pastebin textand here I though you transtards have at least a little bit of standard but woe me, I set the bar to high even though it's already lying on the floor
>>59365108skill issue
>>59365111yeah, transtards seriously need to step up their game
>>59365113yep troonsters can't get past making a discord account
>>59365108Skill issue.
>>59365108original sauce is discordhope this helps
>>59365119my skill issue of being unable to get the source from you who claimed it to be real by telling me 'trust me bro' and then giving me fake url? are you serious?
>inb4 fake
>>59365125Holy skill issue. I guess your "1ccs" couldn't help you here.
>>59365108Why is werster obsessed with trannies? Is he just trying way to hard to fit in?
>>59365126link?
>>59365129werster wanted to be exarion's gf but he rejected xim
>>59365130you can't link discord posts to 4chan you monkey, go join it yourself to be with your fellow transgenders
>>59365128what the flying fuck is "1ccs" now?
>>59365132Let me guess LRXC rejected him too?
>>59365135No continues
>>59365134https://discord.com/channels/973141601771745350/1444833579975577611/1511296551874592858nigger, you literary can. now post the fucking original sauce of that pastebin text
>>59365141I'm not joining his transcord sorry, you seem like you have no hangups about it so go join it yourself
>>59365126wrong gray, nigger
>>59365151SO WHERE IS THE FUCKING ORIGINAL SOURCE YOU FUCKING SHITLORD?!or any other fucking nigger transtard, at least one you fucktards has to have the fucking original source, stop fucking evading this stupid fucking shit
>>59365154harmony but the opposite
>>59365154you've already been told where to go, now go there
>>59365154Trying way too hrad trannyboy.
>>59365157>>59365158>>59365159I swear to fucking everything, you schmucks not able to get shit done is really pissing me off, have a good night faggots, i'm out
>>59365165Yeah back to your trannycord W0rst0r
>where do I buy a 4chan pass? and don't say 4chan!
>>59365165werster when are you gonna troon out? asking for a friend
>unlisted the videowerster in fucking shambles
>>59365180holy shitl o l
>>59365184>>59365180which video is this?
>>59365191The 504 manip streak.Original title - How I Destroyed Pokemon Emerald's "Hardest World Record"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KXYKHNRr1U
>>59365196lmao what a fag
>>59365196>>59365184He's still unironcially right. The ruleset they go by is fucking retarded
>>59365228Hi werster, when did you become such a cuck? Was it your brother?
>>593652282013 webster wouldnt be like this
>>59365232chugga
>>59364547>jimothyHe has a really odd way of speaking that I don't know how to explain, but his videos are cool.
>>59364124Even if you take him at face value and believe he was using Starmie 3 to do what he claims, which is laughable already, Werster claims he plays the streaks offline only while traveling, on the bus a plane etcHe also said he was using an audio cue to hit this manip.Even if you want to paint him as great at hitting manips, since he can do them with somewhat ease for speedruns at his home, I do not believe for a second he's hitting them here in those conditions. I don't think anybody in the world could.
we all agree magtroon was in the wrong, right?
why was werster banned from GDQ previously?
>>59365260It's really sad how much you've been doing damage control
>>59365261He stole the power cells from every other attendee in the hotel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OvXI-q0naA
>>59365270???
>>59365270I hate when that happens
>>59365260We agree shmuptroons like you should be gassed
>>59365271why are w*men like this anyways
what is shmup and why do you fags keep mentioning it here?
>>59365282they're easier than logging into discord
>>59365278Sarah Hagan would never.
>>59365292Why does he still deny being Sarah to this day? Is it an ego thing?
>>59365298He's right...
>>59365298lmao
>>59365298According to verlisify everyone is cheating except himself. He doesn't understand pokemon
>>59365296he has a crush on exarion
>>59365261Unironcially because he stole like 50 hotel key cards from the hotel. After GDQ was over he just went around and said "hey can I have your deactivated room card" and most people just said yeah sure. Hotel wanted them back but it wasn't a free so most didn't care
>>59365301ASSAULTVESTBLISSEY
>>59365323this sounds like an in game pokemon event, kek
>>59365367Found it. https://xcancel.com/wersterlobe/status/555814619306934275And yes this is why he was banned not because he said the nigger word. He literally came the next year after that
>>59365360why wouldn't this be a good ideaoh nvm you could just use physical attacks
>>59365429Retard ALERT!!!
>>59363917>Werster has a long-held belief that using calcs and spreadsheets is "dogshit" and should be considered cheating.Explain the fact that he uses notes and spreadsheets while playing himself then.
>>59365298VGC-tards once again failing to understand that time is a persons most valuable asset and not everyone wants to spend all day pointlessly breeding teams >youre just not allowed to compete unless you waste hundreds of hours of your life for nothing!This is essentially the same argument against spreadsheets. >NOOO you can use notes but only ones you wrote yourself j-j-j-just because! >>59365506That is the hypocrisy, good job noticing
>>59365323lol wut why
>>59365371Why did he do it bros?
>>59365298everyone in the battle facilities hacks their mons and its accepted btw
>>59365371What a chud
>>59365539>>59365371dont act like all you faggots weren't stupid little pricks when you were a kid too
>>59365563he was 21, not really a kid
>>59365563I still think it's funny. GDQ banning Werster was my wakeup call it's fucking over
>>59365512Because it's fun
>>59365551only gen 3, because everyone cheats anywaygen 7 battle tree doesn't allow genned mons
>>59365563we weren't, werster
