DRAIN PUNCH EditionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>NewsPokemon Champions is out on mobile devices.Monthly Challenge for June starts on 26th, ends on 29th. Single Battles. Participants gets a Tyranitar.Enter HAJ1MAR1G1FT for a free 100 Quick Coupons and CHAMP10N for a free Machamp.>Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enNew Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPh Previous: >>59385458
Let's not get gay this thread.
How do so many people have Bridgefag anyway? I have only seen eternal floette in 2 previews, is archaludon available to recruit?
>burnt basculegion still gets the 1hko with only two dead teammates because life orbAlright this shits just gay
What mons would be best on a team to play around Skill Swap Contrary Malamar?The ones I've thought about so far are:>Mega-Scolipede>Mega-Scrafty>Scizor>Kommo-o>Armarouge
>>59387508yeah it's in recruit
>>59387508>I have only seen eternal floette in 2 previewsThats not possible.>is archaludon available to recruit?he is.>How do so many people have Bridgefag anyway?probably they traded it in from Home then. As of right now, it makes zero sense for Champions to have differing rarity on Mons since Home exists>>59387506Seriously what the fuck was that last thread
>>59387508Have you only played 2 matches or something?
>>59387508>>59387517>I have only seen eternal floette in 2 previewsOh you mean in team preview before fighting someone.I thought you meant in recruit page. My bad.Well floette is artificially rare, due to it being ZA locked
my ass is getting exposed in Master Ball
>>59387517Some anons got a little too horny and tried to turn the thread into a dating room.
Someone said they never saw taunt and now I just got fucked in the ass because my opponent's whimsicott has taunt
>>59387500The only shiny arceus that are legal are event giveaways or the BDSP one. Everything else is hacked in one way or another. Never had any issue with RNG'd mons desu.
>>59387536Whimsicott, pranksters, Maus, and rarely Talonflame are the tauntchads.
seeing whimsicott every game makes me want to blow by brains out
I was wrong. I complained about bots, but ILCA was right. We need bots for people like this.
>>59387548They need to get rid of prankster desu
>opponent keeps spamming blizzard outside the snow.>only misses one pokemon once and even procced ice>I can't even use zenheadbutt once without it missingI really fucking hate this game.
This game sucks cock because your forced to use faggot pokemon to win. No point playing when I'm forced to use faggots.
>>59387551>every second match is 100 percent defeatthat means that you didnt understand why you won or lost, which is doubly concerning.>ive had at least 50 matches.... still in (pokeball)doubtful. The game tosses bots who spam scary face at you to sort of force you to rank to great ball>the system is bound to choose stronger opponents once you win a match..... thats how skill based matchmaking works. Am i expected to beat random kids who just installed the game when im in champions tier?All in all I understand their plight, that pokemon battling is hard. And this game does not help someone go from total beginner to novice whatsoever. I suspect this person shouldnt play champions at all, and would probably find a mainline game more relaxing. A literal bot clicking spread moves can get to Master Rank, so idk, try SV instead?
>>59387563>https://youtu.be/IiF1m-0c5_I?si=wy2OVGmpSKOIyLyWTo prove my point, also an interesting video for those who hasnt seen it
>>59387561You know in the time you've made every single one of your posts complaining about faggot Pokemon, I don't think you've ever once posted your team before.
>>59387551>>59387563At the end of the day, Champions is a PvP game, and you are bounded to hit a wall if you cannot improve. But I guess that concept is lost for those who have been just playing PvE up to this point
>>59387585I legitimately think champions would benefit greatly from singles/doubles random battles, so there is no argument of 'cheating', 'the game is rigged', 'broken abilities', 'i only see faggot pokemon'.Yeah people will still complain about getting rotom fan instead of archaludon in their rolls, but this actually forces people to confront a myriad of pokemon and actually get gud, knowing what mons do in a glance and hard reads.
I can’t escape ultra ball hell because I’m predicting against retards
>>59387602I just want PvE battle facilities if the main games are really never returning to turn based combat.
>>59387602Random battles will just increase the RNG complaints, these people legitimately need to just get gud. I'm a total free-to-play as well, and while I started out slow, I had a team in mind and built it the best I could before I found better pieces.If people don't want to interface with the format earnestly and still complain, they shouldn't be here.
to the dude who just lost against my shitter team because their Mega Dragonite missed their Heat Wave - my condolences
I really want to run Taunt on my Whimsicott but I don't know what to replace.Maybe I drop the Protect and just rely on focus sash?
Really cool how every new pokemon doesnt matter because Charizard garchomp teams are still s tier
>>59387579I use nonfaggot pokemon. We all know which ones are the faggot pokemon so those are the ones I don't use.
>>59387638Should I just lead with Charizard + Garchomp and spam overheat and earthquake to get to masterball on this dogshit?
Things I have never seen:Hurricane NOT confuseDire Claw NOT poison/sleep/para
>>59387657Dire Claw hasn't done shit for me in Champions. The rate feels lower than 30% and if it hits, it's usually useless fucking poison.
I only see gay nigger pokemon
>>59387666So you’re saying it’s rigged and there’s a grand conspiracy against me
>>59387686it'sss not a grand conspiracy
>>59387602People would 100% blame bad mon selections keeping them gb2
>>59387686Ya have you thought about leaving a 1 star review to express yourself?
>>59387602Randoms would be fun, but I'm not sure they'd add it because it would cut into their gacha profits to some degree.People who are playing randoms don't need to recruit as often or pay for more storage space for their recruits.
>Champions is 2k EloU really need no life for this
>>59387706100 elo is like 3-4 wins, you can easily get to champions tier in an afternoon if you are good and win every game
>>59387706Thats not super high. Was expecting like 2.2
>>59387715One win is 13~ points in masters. It takes 7-8 wins to get 100 points and thats if youre winning straight through
>>59387715>you can easily gain elo if you win every gamethank you for the insight
I was about to forfeit but my Basculegion outspeed Zard ??? You can't be that scared of Rock Slide to run 32/32 Bold Charizard LMAO
Some pokemon really are only for faggots and pelipper is one of them. No cool dude looks at pelipper and says yes thats my dude
>>59387726He jus bein Bashful
>>59387728You clearly didn't play Scarlet/Violet restricted regulations.
>>59387626But who are you going to taunt? From my experience, it won't do much versus a lot of supports out there
Post your're MVP (most valuable pokemons)
>>59387728A surprising amount of early zoomers that began the series on Ruby/Sapphire have a strong fondness for Wingull in particular. I hadn't realized Mr. Briney and Peeko were a Cowboy Bebop reference until I was a bit older.
>sinistcha gets a double burn on a matcha gotcha and stalls out a burn win 1v2>hits 8 machas with no missOh my fucking god
>>59387766look noone was going to buy area zero dlc if it didn't offer stuff like this ok
>>59387769Let's be real, people were more interested in green loli and shota ntr at the time
>>59387763Wingull is cute but peilpper looks like a gay toilet for aids poop
>>59387762Volcarona
The climb could be going worse, all things considered. Aero missed Rock Slide like three times in a row which lead to me losing a game I should've pretty easily won. Felt even worse when the game gave me a clearly bad player immediately afterward for a pity win.
>>59387762has to be Mega Lopunny.Great in Doubles, great in singles, very fast encore user, kills sableye and other ghost types. Great for killing, great for pivoting, all around my MVP.Im glad i brought a shiny one over
Do you put your protect in the top slot or the bottom slot? There is a correct answer.
>>59387786>>59387784Post a screenshot
>>59387794Type1 STABType2 STABCoverage AttacksSet-up movesDebuff movesProtect
>>59387794Bottom>that guy who puts it thirdHow do you feed yourself?
>>59387762In real life, in Champions, in every game ever. Clef is my beloved.
>>59387794I never put it in the first slot just in case I got disconnected and it automatically uses the first move in the slot
Kek I thought those 1star reviews would affect the score but turns out those are just loud minorities
>>59387794For me it'sBig Stab(high PP)Utility/Protect/StatusBig Stab/Coverage/ProtectBig Stab(low PP)
>>59387794STAB move > other move > protect if I am to arrange them
>sunny day to cuck rain>heat wave misses>their hurricane lands in sunFuck off
>>59387807most of the bad reviews which isnt about losing talks about disconnection issues on mobile, which to be fair i also had.So thats definitely something TPC should get on.
>use rockslide with support aerodactyl>hits charizard y>survives with 2% HPI calced it and unless this was a full investment HP and def charizard y it should not have been able to survive, and that would have been a low rollwon the match, but wtf was that shit?
>>59387822>zard players after months of rockslide spam now seeing mega swampert
Legit every other team is garchomp Charizard y
>Tail becomes armored>No Armor Tail
>>59387856>lets slap some weird bulky objects with clashing colors on this streamlined smooth mon
>>59387856If only it kept its original base speed so it could still be a fast tank after one speed boost
Hows my team sound:Whimsicott, Garchomp, Mega Aero, Maushold, Mega Delphox, Alolan Ninetales.
I SUNNY DAYD THE FAGGOT FROSSLASS SO YOU COULD HEAT WAVE IT HOW THE FUCK DO YOU MISS IT AND GIVE THEM A FREE TURN TO SWAP OUT AND RE SNOW THE FIELD YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
>>59387481>>59387488>>59387489>>59387491From what I've been able to figure out, it looks like I have to spend VP on a recruit in order to reroll the lineup. What a crock of shit.
>>59387897you can trial recruit for free
>>59387545Don’t forget the once in a blue moon Taunt Gyarados.
>>59387900Do trial mons disappear after their timer ends or do they stay inactive in the box until you release them?
>>59387900Oh, yeah I could do that. I haven't bothered trial recruiting at all so it didn't even cross my mind.
>>59387888was considering mega dragalgae over mega aero but I like the rockslide and second tailwind, but also it doesn't outspeed as much as I'd like with swift swim/opposing tailwind so that's annoying
>>59387909permanently stays until you release them or recruit them
>>59387909they stay in the box until you return them but you can't use them unless you perma recruit them
constant talk of faggotmons but nobody ever lists them out. I am no coward and await your judgement.
>>59387922what did the fagriguses do to you
>>59387922but garchomp is an honest pokemon. he attacks and thats it. you only does the one job
>girl CharizardLmao
>>59387762Focus Sash Trick Room Chandelure for the games where I know Farig would get murdered right out the gate.>>59387804Shame Clefairy isn’t in the game yet. It carried my ass when friends and I were really into VGC back in 2015 and perplexed a lot of people before it got popular.
>>59387802Pretty well but pic is accurate for me.
>>59387926Mummy/Wandering Spirit + trick room is annoying to deal with and thats it really.>>59387935Sand Veil + Bright Powder is very dishonest. And rough skin is free chip damage.Even if those two aren't the worst to deal with, I hate dealing with them regardless.
>>59387856It really does feel like these new Megas were each given their own roulettes of possible abilities and each one got the ability the wheel landed on.
>>59387856What is the secret sxolipede sauce out there that they thought it needed a genuinely useless ability?
>>59387922>Both>Garchomp>CofagrigusCringe.
>Make it Rain gets nerfed into the ground>Last Respects does not get nerfed to 40 power per teammate???
>>59387986It should be perfect to 25 per teammate its ridiculous like imagine if stomping tantrum got boost 4 times if you missed it its just dumb as shit
>>59387509It's effectively 300BP with Adaptability, even with Burn it's still a no downside Hyper Beam.
>>59387576>use the same team in same order>opponent who watched this video expects a bot>switch moves
Pellipper swampert, sableye and archaludon teams deserve to be sleep powdered to death, they dont deserve fairness
So is my boy Charizard dead or?
>recruit Garchomp>wins start to outweigh losses
>>59388050Garchomp is a fraud
>>59387643Be honest. Are the nonfaggot Pokemon all KANTOOOOOO and JOHTOOOOOO
>Want to try Mega Sceptile>Thinking about Dischage shenanigans >See Heliolisk>Cheking moves>See Electrify >OMG I can turn any attack into Electric-type to boost Sceptile>I am a genius >>Lightning Rod absorbs Electrify
Its fucking incredible missing 90% moves and then eating a rock slide heatwave combo flush
>>59387560>using Zen HeadmissYou better not be using Mega Metagross with that.
>>59388074you want scarf rotom discharge, probably heat
>>59387794Protect at the top so if you time out/DC you at least have a chance of being safe.
>>59388074that would be kinda nutty. forcing the opponent to do an absorbed hit.
>>59388074I'm using Mega Sceptile and I've found Jolteon to be its best partner.Tied for 2nd fastest non-mega, you can set Sceptile's speed to be just below Jolteon's after Mega evolving and still out-speed nearly everything. Only thing is Jolteon's moveset doesn't have a lot going for it.
I think both megachus are frauds>both lose to mega lopunny
>>59388102Yes they are, but they're fun enough for people to enjoy matchup fishing and have some play vs opposing raichu with seeing who megas first to get the sp attack raise. Very similar to lopunny in fraud levels and mind games in that way.
>>59388100What’s the EV Spread for Mega Sceptile?
>>59388100I second Jolteon, it allows you to not be locked into choice scarf and you can also use it on another mon.
Can you intentionally lower your mons levels in this game?
>>59388127No. Everything is set to 50.
>>59388118Max speed/Timid Jolteon is 200Max speed/Neutral nature M-Sceptile is 197, you can probably put the rest of it into S.Att but given that your gameplan is further boosting it you might not need full investment.The general moveset is Energy Ball/Dragon Pulse/Earth Power/Protect.
>>59388127No, that hasn't been a thing in VGC for a long time. The big change in this is all IVs are 32, so you can't min speed for trick room or 0 attack for foul play.
I like Goodra, Mimikyu, and Heracross. Thoughts? I only have the Lucario default team at the moment.
Holy shit I'm Masterball 2 aka 2564th after the tallying Makes me almost want to go for Champion tier
>>59388145Singles or Doubles?
>>59388145idk bro, pick heracross.for everyone else, picrel is the lucario starter team.I legit cannot make a good doubles team out of it, the free mons and whatever anon is picking in this roster.Its too slow for trick room, and doesnt have any support.
What's the best Zard Y counter?Tyranitar?
>>59388145You might be able to pull off Beat-Up Shenanigans with the Mimikyu with Lucario.
>>59388158Garchomp or Aero usually. T-Tar is better on the switch-in since it megaing will set Sun, removing the Sand boost and letting it chunk you with Solarbeam or, God forbid, killing you outright with the rare Focus Miss.
>>59388160If we lead with Charizard and T-Tar respectively, isn't it safe for me to just mega rockslide with T-Tar since it's slower so I'm always getting the weather?
>>59388163If we're assuming it's a raw 1v1, both no protect, yeah.
>>59388163I feel like the charizard meta is always protect turn 1 and maybe mega, see if you get a sleep with venusaur then turn two either switch or mega and attack
>>59388164>>59388166I see yeah.What would be the best partner for T-Tar in that situation?
>>59388149nvm just lost twice again troonrain teams
>>59388150Either or. I prefer singles because that's what my sister and I used to play. When I got to high school and college I would lose a lot because everyone wanted to play VGC doubles, and I never got gud.>>59388155Are you saying I should reroll and hope I get Lucario from a recruit draw?>>59388159Might just get Mimikyu.
>>59388171Definitely Mimikyu for singles. You can try out Doubles when you have more rolls which shouldn't take long.
>>59388171>Are you saying I should reroll and hope I get Lucario from a recruit draw?no no, im not saying that at all.im just thinking of how you can make a team is all. You mentioned singles, so that narrows it down a bit.For now, yeah get mimikyu
I am thinking about getting into this game instead of using showdown.How expensive/grindy would it be for me to build a specific team? or is just gacha so all luck.
>>59388181You have to gacha or ask for anons here if you want to build a specific teamFloette is the only pokemon you can't get from the gacha
>>59388175>>59388176Im going to spend all my quick tickets, are there any specific pokemon I should look out for? Is it ok to skip recruiting if I don't want any of them?
>>59388167I do aero-chomp to kill zard and dual wingbeat + rockslide. He protects? Do it again. Just keep clicking dual slide. Forever.
>>59388193I'll try that
>>59388190Too many to list. Try looking at the ranked battle data for singles and seeing what's the most used and see what interests you there. Stuff like Garchomp, Meowscarada, Hydreigon you can't really go wrong with.
>>59388181>I am thinking about getting into this game instead of using showdown.ill be frank, most of us are also using showdown. Its still the best for just throwing whatever shit on a team and seeing how well it gels or just planning a team out.>How expensive/grindy would it be for me to build a specific team?you can have literally any mon you want if you are open to trading. if you arent, then it is a bit annoying, but doable.>>59388190>are there any specific pokemon I should look out for?there isnt a catch all for the 'best' mons to choose, since preferably you already have a team in mind before going into it. but you can check outhttps://www.pikalytics.com/and if its high on the list, then you can probably take it safely enough
>want to try new Raichu Y in singles>every team has Garchomp>give up, remove from team>never see Garchomp againthis game is gay and I'm stuck using the same team I've been using for years, even my stupid Mega Staraptor isn't getting a chance to play.
exquisite bait.lets see who bites
>>59388204they should add lanturn next update
>>59388133I assume Jolteon is something like Discharge, Shadow Ball, Protect and Quick Attack? What other Pokemon do you run on the team?
>>59388198>>59388200Sorry to keep asking so many questions, this one I didn't see in the OP rentry. Are Pokemon with titles rare? Could this Watchog be a better pick then TTar, or am I being stupid and thinking too hard?
>>59388197He WILL switch out after setting sun behind protect and trying to sleep 1 of your two. It's good to have a plan for whatever else he has, but if he switches in again too fast, he'll have lost valuable sun turns and be stuck with mid moves once it runs out.
I hate the fucking giraffe so much
>Try out dragon cheer on Kommo-o>Use it into clanging voice>Turns out it only crits the pokemon I selected during attack, not both pokemonBut Garchomp gets to hit one button and earthquake sweep me, that's OK right?
>>59388209Ask as many as you need too, anon. Titles don't mean anything. They're a little rare but really not important at all. If you cared about titles or balls you're better off just using mons you've actually caught in the main games. T-Tar, Talonflame, and Delphox are probably the best picks here for singles.
>>59388209>Sorry to keep asking so many questionsnever apologise for something you dont know.>Are Pokemon with titles rare?Short answer; rarity in this game is moot because they have no value. Only pick good pokemon, shinyness (yes we have shinies) and balls/titles are irrelevant.Also for this instance, you might argue that talonflame is a better pick than tyranitar. Ttar/Delphox is sort of a buildaround, but Talonflame is a free agent, as a great lead for tailwind setup
FIVE HARD TRICK ROOMS IN A ROW CAN YOU GIVE ME ANYTHING ELSE
SIX
>>59388218huh, i wonder what is the number than comes after this
You never miss having Incin more than when you see the trick room giraffe
What's the difference between a hard trick room and a soft trick room?
>>59388217General rule of thumb if you know you’re going up against a TR team is to have a Pokemon with non-priority Taunt. The more obscure, the better.T. Day 1 TR player with pic. Main Taunters that have screwed me over have been Talonflame, Incineroar and the occasional Gyarados, but others like TTar have caught me off guard in the past.
>>59388228hard TR doesn't require any kind of brain and is basically a flow chart
>>59388228Hard trick room means you're a faggot who is getting the trick room off no matter what so you have a lead with fake out and giraffe bulked to fuck with a mental herb so the trick room goes off no matter what you do
>>59387551hahaha
Guys some bubbles popped up for this last recruit pull, but I don't exactly know who the good choices are. I know Technician Scizor and Milotic are just good in general, but is there a clear winner here?
>>59388253Scizor or Milotic are both good. Scizor for singles as a good cleaner with Bullet Punch while Milotic is a great support mon in doubles.
If you play Baton Pass on Blaziken/Espathra you're a BITCH and nothing more, Smogon rules are always implied in a gentlemen's squabble.
>>59388253Bubbles = rare pokeball
>>59388228hard trick room = allin on trick room, every mon 0 speed, forfeit on turn one if you're trickroom setter gets taunted soft trickroom = not reliant on a single mode, can go trickroom to BTFO some tailwind fags or if they outspeed you
>>59388253Both a real good and you probably want both. I have a soft spot for Scizor, max attack bullet punch with metal coat does great damage even without SD boost.
Calling out someone's bullshit is the best feeling in this game. Always great watching their gay little plan fall apart because ur too good for that
>>59388256>>59388264I know Milotic is better for Doubles, but I'll pick Scizor for now while I ease from Singles to Doubles. >>59388258Oh boy... Sport Ball Camerupt...
>>59388257>Smogon rules are always implied in a gentlemen's squabble.at any point between thinking, typing and posting this did you once stop to think what a faggot you are
good to know paralysis was nerfed because I lost two full turns consecutively due to that bs
>>59388274meaning 4 full paras in a row
>>59387545>>59387902Tauntdactyl is objectively the best user of taunt and it's not even close
I can taunt farigirafI can grass knot swampertI can blizzard GarchompBut how in the loving fuck do I counter sneasel? He just close combats for a million damage and outspeeds everything I do
>freeze an opponent with froslass>they immediatly unfreeze and fuck me upCome on, at least give me a turn in man
>>59387762Someday I will reach a tier where people remember what Mega Venusaur's ability is... until then, ez MVP who takes 20% from your fire coverage and farts a sludge bomb in return
>>59388283Swap in a ghost type, focus sash, have a defense spread built to survive an adamant close combat, kill him off frailty alone before he can benefit from unburden.What are you using?
>>59388289Was it Incineroar? Because flare blitz immediately thaws you
>>59388283Gholdengo
>>59387602I think they should add VP to casual battles, and throw some bots in there.
>>59387802>protect in third slotIt's a holdover habit from the mainline games where you use a D-Pad to navigate the menu. The menus scrolls if you press up while at the top, so spot 3 is the "farthest" from where the cursor starts requiring 2 d-pad presses instead of 1 to reach. It's basically spot 4 to boomers
>>59387814>talks about disconnection issues on mobileKek that's why i left one
>>59387856>make scolipede's legs sexier>cometely fuck up the head and faceWhy?
>>59388283Skelidirge destroys that thing
If I pick Rotom Mow, can I freely swap it's typing, or do I need a Rotom? If not I'll pick Lopunny.
>>59388317All the Ranchtoms are locked to their current form
>>59388317You can’t, needs to be the specific Rotom you want
>>59388155This team is a nightmare to make work for singles as well holy fuck i mean sylveon is good and froslass can do some work but damn
Losing to Perish Song makes me feel like a retard
>>59388317btw dont waste ALL your VP now, you still need about 4k, the amount you have, to actually train and make the team.Please stop pulling
My plan for today is to brush off my 3DS, catch a billion Wimpods, evolve them, and send to home to hold and trade for EFloettes/Gholdengos/Ursalunas once his mega drops.
>>59388330Is Gholdengo not in the ranch?
>>59388201>not keeping Ychu to bait garchomp leads into your ice punch or scarf draco user
>>59388331gholdengo is in fact in the ranch
>>59388322>>59388323Damn, thanks.>>59388327Can I not just... buy a little more VP? I want to get a Lycanroc.
>>59388330>she thinks it will get anything else than Emergency exit
>>59388228Whether or not you have a tailwind user
>no customization, the one that's in is the ugliest shit on earth>absolute barebones content>limited out of the ass on teams and box space unless you pay, and it's a monthly membership too so eat that gass up>gatcha dependant to build a team in the app itselfI still like the game because the core gameplay is fun as hell, and the pokemon are very cool but I feel like they are ripping me off while laughing at me when I play this. And that switch-only deal existing but not being available is the icing on the cake
>>59388337chink datamine from 5 months ago (one that got Pyroar and Staraptor correctly) said he's getting Tough Claws
>>59388340I don't mind the customization but paying 4000 vpocks for a pair of shoes is criminal
>>59388336>Can I not just... buy a little more VP?No you cannot just "buy" /vp/
>>59388336>Can I not just... buy a little more VP?No?
Pair this with a redirecter and hope you roll a rainfagGallade 32HP/32Atk/2DefAdamant @ Expert Belt-Trick Room-Leaf Blade-Sacred Sword-Thunderpunch
>>59388331it's second most wanted mon on Home, so a good fodder to trade down when you need something
>>59388342wow that’s amazing and very original...NOT
>>59388349>expert beltholy phonefag
>>59388345>>59388347I'm impressed they didn't take the easy route for cash, but I'm also pissed I can't keep rolling now.
>>59388358the easy route for cash is you buying a switch tuah and the pokeyman games
>>59387961They probably think a mega with speed boost is too OP
>>59388362smogon debunked this
>>59387922>RunegrigusNobody plays that pokemon and you know it
>>59388257> SmogonFanfict rules
>>59388257I guess it's true what they say, smogon really does make westerners unskilled
Rock types...ARE STRONG!!!
>>59388373based...
>>59387762My MVP has been Scovillain since launch that I had to go catch a shiny version. He has gotten me into Masterball Rank without fail at least in single battles. My other MVP has been Espathra for being a great wallbreaker and baton passer. Especially killer when passed into Scovillain who has moody and if your lucky getting the perfect stat drop and stat increase from Scovillain's moody ability.
Question about the achievementsDo they have to be on the field to count as a win or can they be my remaining 2 pokemon?Do dual types count for both achievements?
>>59388379LatterYes.
>>59388337>>59388342That datamine was fake
>>59388389if it's 75% correct, it's more likely TPC decided to change some abilities after playtesting
>>59388391>TPC>playtestinglol
How do I counter Basc
>>59388424Kingambit.
>>59388424
>smogon rules
I can’t get into this shit where all team building starts with the question>what mega do I want to use?
I'm kinda new, what's the advantage of using physical attackers over special attackers?Special attackers don't care about intimidate, burn, and stuffs like Archaludon's stamina.Is there anything that physical attackers are better at?
>>59388441Physical attackers are better at attacking special walls and calm mind spammers and assault vests.
>>59388438Why?>>59388441Higher power moves on average without damage drawbacks like Overheat. Higher average accuracy, more priority options, fuck over special walls, etc.
>>59388438I find the opposite, it makes team building a lot easier because you can pick 1/2 mons to build around, kinda like restricted mons
>>59388452The problem is I’m limited to 1/2 mons from a super limited selection of the ones that have megas, easy but LAME
>>59388424Watch this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTKM31H_qNM
I'm playing as Canari so I'm trying to use Eelektross but it never ever gets the first kill to eelevate into a murder machine, it's completely harmless fuck this shit
>>59388491>Physical electric attacker
>>59388491use bellibolt instead like some kind of bootleg iono
> Fifth TR room in a rowI swear the moment i put taunt mon or some slow fuck on my team i will never encounter another TR
>>59388505Be sure to put taunt on a priority mon so you can really eat shit when TR goes up.
What's wrong with TR
>>59388512Nothing, it's just annoying sometimes a lot of people don't like mini-game against Farig.
>>59388512one of the most boring matchups to ever be conceived, with the least diversity of battles
>>59388512Dishonest battling.
Is tailwind dishonest too
>>59388533>Tailwind>Trick Room>Prankster>Heat Wave>Earthquake>Weather>Fake Out>Sucker PunchYou didn't beat the game.
Is Encore + Disable a meme or a legit control strategy?
>>59388512What if you took those slow mons with yuge other stats and let them go first, invalidating the slow speed that kept them balanced
So why does raichu y skill swap on mr rime instead of glalie or valilluxe that are faster?
Anything other than attacking moves is cheating
>>59388563
>>59388427It doesn't last long enough when I need it and it lasts too long when I don't want it.
>>59388557oh I get it because it can fake out right?
>>59388557Because Mr. Rime is the one using Skill Swap, not Raichu
>>59388491>>59388496Coil superslam works just fine on my machine
>>59388533Tailwind lasts so few turns and has no extension items. Screens are more dishonest than tailwind
>>59388593Do you enjoy taking half your health when something protects lmao
>>59388602>attacking into protectLmoa
>>59388554legit, you will see wolfey and other control type players use it now and then
>>59387922i will not be taking questions at this time
>>59388606>anon can't keep his opponent honest
>>59388614There are no honest opponents >>59388542
>>59388283>how in the loving fuck do I counter sneasel?for a while i was using zoroark-hisuiused basc for a bithad a bit of fun with slowbro-galartried out gengar but it's a bit too fragile for my likingi guess now i would use my farigiraf
What's with all the shiny Gholdengo in Home? I randomly got 2 from trades. They were all caught within this week in Scarlet and Violet so they're definitely not legit. Home doesn't check for these things like catch date?
>>59388362Ahem...
>>59388612>m-aggronIt's your own fault if you get checkmated by THE WALL.
>>59388584true...
>>59388330I dun geddit. Why would someone trade Floette for a Wimpod?
>>59387502Help me replace Sableye (Venusaur is not an option)
>>59388658Post sets
Mega scrafty builds?
>>59388686Pair with Malamar to Skill Swap Contrary on to it so it gets the benefit of CC. Just have something in mind for Fairy-types
>>59388706Im good chief
>>59388686https://youtu.be/2Sr5JybCqAA
>>59388658what is your team supposed to do? sack your first two for basc?id start over from scratch honestly
>no arm thrust in the gameI'm so mad. I wanted to try using mega heracross in singles
>>59388740arm thrust has always been shit, use CC
>>59388740Other anon is right. Arm Thrust is 15 BP, it's strictly worse than Close Combat and always has been.
>>59388686>Mega scrafty builds?https://www.pikalytics.com/pokedex/championstournaments/Scrafty-Mega
>>59388739>id start over from scratch honestlyNope, that team is working great, with the exception of Sableye. I was thinking Tyranitar but I don't have Tyranitar
>>59388742>>59388744B-but the sashers. Also I thought it was like 20bp, damn
>>59388491Keep a talonflame next to it so you can tailwind then discharge to kill it and self boost
>>59388491Baton Pass Espathra, if you're gonna meme go all-in.
I hate Goldengo. It’s ugly and it’s stupid
https://youtu.be/aC65ZalQku8I think temp is a lurker.
>>59388802Doubtful, the bad reviews have been making the rounds on most sites.
>>59388758I wish it was 20 lol
I love Goldengo. It's cool and it's awesome
>>59388793They chose Gumby to be #1000 too
>>59388793Same I despise it
>>59388802The posts here were copied from reddit.
>life orb chomp at -2 1 shots mawile through reflect with eqso glad it was a crit, surely that isn't normal. Hard TR feel so fucking terrible in UltraBall 1, I get double protect stalled too often but trying to predict people doing that + wasting a slot on aboosting move seems bad
What are good partners for Mega Froslass and Rotom Frost in this update?
>>59388838Use Feint
>>59388838I generally won't let opponents setup TR if I can help it. Used to be easier when I ran priority blocking in Tsareena, but some people don't fake out T1.
>>59388850That's interesting but seems worse(?) than just running a boosting move. There also arent many good feint users for tr. I guess tinkaton is ok, but I use mmawile, so that leave sableye, but I already have too much support on my team, and goodra-h which is actually not bad but my team is weak to ground
>>59388840Look at the Froslass/Scovillain teams the italians cooked up in Turin.
>>59388854You really can't stop tr going up if they are running farig, and CANNOT stop it without running something like kingambit +and/or a mold breaker
>>59388862>umbreon used roar
>>59388867running this is worse than letting tr go off
>>59388877half the time it makes them rage quit turn 1although it's useless if they're using hat to set tr
>>59388882if they are using hat to set you are in greatball lil gup
Is there a resource to watch and learn about other hard trick room teams? I'm about to reach masterball but just really frustrated. It seems like you need 2 support-ish mons which can be weak, and it feels really hard to work with farig after it sets TR, because I can't just swap into one of my TR carries because they'll die on switch in before they can do work. And ofc the 2x protect stall.Is there a good TR setter that sets, then does something meaningful like explode? I just don't get how to move regarding getting farig off the field since it's dmg is so weak.
>>59388330I got a shiny in Sun and Moon I need to transfer up :)
>>59388897You could try scarfed final gambit Staraptor suiciding into something turn 1 to get a free switch and remove a threat to Farig?
>>59388857You wanna make progress every turn while TR is up, so punishing Protect by Feinting them this turn is better than boosting to punish them next turn. Gallade and Chesnaught could both be good on TR
>>59388761KEK
I've won a disproportionate amount of games by plopping Sinistcha or Pelipper next to Weavile and watching the enemy flail about wondering why their autopilot get wins guaranteed lead is suddenly failing due to the influx of mobilefags
>fp is boosted by huge powerwhat le fuck, thank you for this info mdb
>>59388886m4
>>59388966Foul Play is a really fucking weird move.
>>59388761Oh I might actually try this
>opponent sends out whimsicott + staraptor into my sableye + arch lead>reflect as the whimsicott tickles, staraptor megas, close combats the bridge>bridge survives, brings whims down to sash>protect, will-o-wisp>fucking MISS>have to swap into peli, get the will-o-wisp off 2nd try>peli tanks two close combats like a champ, all the while the whims is just tickling and nothing else>get tailwind off barely, kill whims with burn>think it might be joever because the bird is boosted to fuck, but peli clutches with over 50% damage with hurricane, no crit>bring out swampert next, they send out... blaziken?>the fuck>kill bird and whatever their fourth mon was, kind of waiting to see what'll happen with blaziken>still outspeed with swift swim after a speed boost and kill it, dont even remember what the fourth mon wasWas there a reason they brought Blaziken into a Swampert rain team? I thought maybe for Arch but in theory M-Staraptor would be its check (even though I tanked a CC). Maybe they thought I was gonna bring out M-Venusaur but even then
fellas, I think I suck at this game
>>59388491set up screens/tailwind then pair with garchomp
>>59388966The target's or the user's?
>>59388342>tough claws boosted first impression for a total of 195BPunfortunately its also a bug move
>>59388391If a leak isn’t 100% correct, it’s fake.If a leak vague posts, it’s also fake.
Tell me why I shouldn't go Timid/31 points in speed to outspeed Scarfed Basc with M-Sceptile.
>>59389017Basc isn't Scarfed anymore.
>>59388993Post your team
>>59389017You shouldn't go M-Sceptile at all
>>59389024Mega-Sceptile is perfectly solid.
I haven't killed anything with rock slide in days everyone has enough bulk now with EVs to survive on 3%
>>59389044Did you face any zard
>>59389034It has one thing it likes to do and if you lead wrong then you spend the game on the back foot trying to outplay your opponent to turn things around.
>>59389065Okay
>>59389010what kind of makes it real for me is that they accurately got piercing drill, even down to the name. like if it was just "unseen fist" with a different name i'd say its a guestimate but the fact they got it accurate sells it. the other custom abilities like for scovillain and pyroar seemed like translation things or beta names, and the wrong abilities may have been placeholders or swapped later on. granted this also means that tough claws is not guaranteed, but it gives hope.
>>59389063Yes a few
>>59389024the beauty of champions is that unless you're a superhard elofag you can just play whatever, it doesnt matter its not a tournament
>>59389020Fair.>>59389024He's been okay after finally getting some coverage. +1 Earth Power offs Bridge and other stuff it used to be completely unable to stay in on.
>>59389079I wish M-Sceptile got Draco Meteor, but unfortunately as it's not a base dragon type it don't get shit. But if it got that, pairing with a good Electric partner, you'd have a beast
I want to stick my dick into Alcremie
>its another day of 2 hours stuck in ultra 1rigged cancer, theres always a magical counterpick the moment i get close to masterball
>Mega Starmie can skill swap its Huge Power to an allyCan this be abused?Is there even a point to Huge Power when a single Swords Dance does the same thing?
>>59389123Make the recipient Swords Dance on the same turn
>>59389093don't fall for it anon, this is how Fairy types get their power, they tempt innocent human men to copulate with them and then drain them of all they're worth, leaving them sterile
>>59389130>turn 1 maxed out attackMaybe on a mon with good spread-damage moves... He'd have to have high attack AND be fast, though, since Starmie doesn't get Trick Room. Or he'd have to know Trick Room himself.Garchomp with Earthquake and Rock Slide, or Runerigus with EQ, Rock Slide, and Trick Room?Could swap out Starmie in order to support with Wash Rotom, for Levitate.
>>59388850>>59388910NTA, What is the best way to use feint? I didn't even know it existed.
>press right on analog stick to target opponent>it registered down instead >pressed a too fast>unable to cancel it as it was my second pokemon>kill my own partner>3 win streak in ultra ball ended
>>59389170This game has so much fucking UI delay it's insufferable.
why cant I just buy battle pass levels with money? why do I have to play?
>>59389001>156 bp leech life
TRVKE
>>59389196All singleplayer pokemon games are garbage.
>Master Ball>Opponent tries Prankster Encore while Farigiraf is on the field>Maybe they tried to predict a switch or something>Next turn they do it againPeak gameplay up in the big boy ranks
>>59389196He just described pokemon stadium though, I mean minus the mini games and I think there was a mini campaign of sorts battling gym leaders or somethinI think im just fucked for now lads, doing some GO and not sure what else to do to get pokemon, maybe get my switch 1 back from family member and I think I bought shield and diamond for it, then I could get mons i actually want
>>59389255Do you have a 3DS?
>>59389196>grinding levels>fighting retarded CPU trainers and wild pokemon>funThese people are subhuman.
>>59389256Reckon not, should have a brick ds somewhere, my gba sp, and my red brick Gameboy. Not sure what happened to my 2 gbc, im assuming all the shit i have is too old though.I wanted to do toxic spikes arbok instead of clefable with stealth rock but arbok gets touched by 1 eq and its over. I made the concession of using megas, mega blastoise did basically nothing I feel, compared to him not being mega, so I dont get it. And I dont want to use mega raichu
>>59389196>Besides the gameplay there is no gameplay
>>59389272>im assuming all the shit i have is too old though3DS is the only handheld capable of transferring to Pokemon Home, which is the only way to get mons into Champions.
I was thinking about not manually using sunny day for my typhlosion with whimsicott but it's actually won me quite a few battles by removing rain and sand weather
>>59389272>made the concession of using megasWhy do you even want to play lol.Either way there's enough in that box to make a not total shit but not great team.
now that I think about it, I do have my 3ds with bank installed + the premium bank sub I can offer anons here a transfer of their buddies from the gba/ds/3ds era, I would just need their savefile and some time to get through batches of mons
>>59389276Then I will get my switch 1 back from my family next time i visit next month. Most likely won't be getting a switch 2 so im fucked for any new pokemon games on that with homeIn the meanwhile my current roster is poop, GO is giving me shit like spearows so far. Cant figure out what will work with clefable, I like machamp with ice punch though so maybe him for a 2nd. But then I need a mega, as you can tell im not a charizard fan and I assume thats the best mega of the 3 starters since it looks like he actually has 2 different mega forms
>>59389272>mega blastoise did basically nothing I feel, compared to him not being megaThere's basically no point to using mega blastoise unless you want to capitalize on his ability, Mega Launcher.Mega Launcher gives 1.5x damage to Aura Sphere, Dragon Pulse, Dark Pulse, Water Pulse, and Terrain Pulse.If your blastoise isn't running at least some of those moves, there's no point to making him mega.The most common gen 1 mega aside from raichu is probably charizard.Mega venusaur isn't too bad, he's bulky and gets Thick Fat to reduce damage from fire and ice moves.Mega alakazam can be good, he copies the enemy's ability, which can lead to some good combos.Mega kangaskhan can be interesting, since all its moves become double-hit and the on-hit effects trigger twice. Used to be amazing with Power-Up Punch, but that move isn't in Champions yet.You could probably make mega aerodactyl work, though I haven't seen anyone else using it.
>>59389288>Most likely won't be getting a switch 2 so im fucked for any new pokemon games on that with homeNot necessarily. Having the ability to transfer ANY pokemon into Home means you can put them up for trade on the GTS and ask for whatever you want in return.I've never owned any pokemon games past the 3DS and I was still able to get newer pokemon by breeding some old ones and putting them up on the GTS.
man I HAVE to tailwind once I get to ultra ball tier since everyone uses it huhor should I trick room
>>59389286Because I played a lot of pokemon stadium as a lad, and this is close enough for me, the challenge of using only Gen 1 mons is fun to me>tl;dr im having fun
>>59389295By the way, Ditto is gen 1 and is always a solid choice by virtue of being Ditto.Choice Scarf Ditto means you always win speed ties and can easily kill any mon who has attacks that are effective against itself.
Whimsy whimsyCott cott
>>59389290I would love alakazam or aeroIn the meanwhile it sounds like mega vena is the way to go for me, or maybe put dragon pulse on blastoise to try and deal with all these fuggin dragons everywhere >>59389293Id sooner buy a 3ds than a switch 2, guess I can check prices and see if I can get a 3ds for a reasonable price+whatever pokemon games are on that, X and Y i think they are called. Diamond was the last generation I played all the way through
>>59389313>guess I can check prices and see if I can get a 3ds for a reasonable priceBear in mind that due to the Eshop being closed down, you'll have to homebrew the 3DS in order to get Pokemon Bank onto it if whoever is selling it didn't install it already.Homebrewing is doable, you just might want to look into the process before paying for the 3DS.
>>59389307So ditto, alakzam, aero would all be good for meElectrode or magneton and cloyster would be fun for me
>>59389288>GO is giving me shit like spearowsDon't forget you can transfer them to Home and trade them.I'm sure some kind anons here would breed or gen some decent mons for you. You just have to post a screenshot of your listing so they know who to trade to.
>>59389310DIE DIE DIE
>>59389316I did not actually think about that at all desu, I should have expected home to be a downloadable only thing and expected the e shop to be shutdown like the Wii one is
>>59389327>>59389327>>59389327It's new
>>59387502Did I make a mistake by using a lot of Quick Coupons on a single session? I was sitting on more than 400 and today, 7 days after starting, I just produced a bunch of encounters. I got some valuable mons like Kingambit and Sinistcha but I still need others that are highly competitive like Roar, Zard, Legion and Sneasler. I have like 100 coupons remaining but I stopped since I burned the currency you earn just playing the game. Is it better to wait for the daily free encounter or are Quick Coupons not a big deal to burn?
>>59389330Quick Coupons don't expire or anything, so it's really just a question of "do you want more recruits now and less later, or less recruits now and more later?"I don't know that there's a strategic advantage to either one, except maybe saving the coupons for when a pokemon you really want gets added to the lineup so you can recruit a bunch at that time.
>>59389330If you're dependant on the ranch to get pokemon then you might want to at least keep a buffer to avoid being naked when a new regulation completely shakes the meta.
>>59389339>>59389343Thanks. I will save them from now on, then. The not so enjoyable aspect about the ranch is that there are times where 2 or 3 Pokémon that you need appear at the same time, then in next encounters no Pokémon is an amazing choice.
>>59388838Crits ignore attack drops, so LO Chomp at -2 with a crit does the same damage as LO Chomp at +0.
>>59388966Foul Play just uses the target's computed attack number in the calculation, but everything else is the same as if you used a move. So if you're burned and attack with Foul Play, you'll do less damage because burn reduces the physical damage you deal, but if your target is burned, it will do the same damage as if it wasn't because burn reduces physical damage dealt, but doesn't affect the attack stat directly, and the attack stat is what is being used.
anyone mind getting me an eternal floette?ask away and i might have a shiny to match
