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That Fucking Cat Edition

Pokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.

>News
Pokemon Champions is out on mobile devices.
Monthly Challenge for June starts on 26th, ends on 29th. Single Battles. Participants gets a Tyranitar.
Enter HAJ1MAR1G1FT for a free 100 Quick Coupons and CHAMP10N for a free Machamp.

>Resources and useful links
Community Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/
Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/en
New Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):
https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)

Quick FAQ
>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?
No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.
>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?
All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.
Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.
>Is there single player content?
No.
>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?
No.
>What's the starter pack?
US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.
>Is anything locked behind a paywall?
So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.

>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):
https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPh


Previous: >>59387502
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Whimsicott used Tailwind
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Add a fren code(trainer ID) list of anons to OP
We should host lobbies, some kind anon told me this game works on PC so we can easily have darn near 24/7 lobbies up with the host just being afk
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Whimsy Whimsy
Cott Cott
Whimsy Whimsy
Cott Cott
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>>59389334
>some kind anon told me this game works on PC
Specifically, Bluestacks running the Android 13 beta.
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>feel like I shouldn't recruit any old-gen pokemon like Swampert or Pelipper, because I can easily breed those and transfer them to Home if I want them, so recruiting them in Champions would be a waste of the recruit
>but then again, I can also GTS trade for practically any mon of any gen anyway, including ones from games I don't have
I don't technically NEED to recruit anything, so I don't really know what to recruit...
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>>59389294
I’m using neither rn and I’m in Masters. Though it’s cause I use YChu which outspeeds most mons without it
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>>59389342
Thanks, I will check it out and try hosting a 24/7 lobby if everything goes smoothly, though starlink usually cuts out around 2-4 am roughly, PST
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>bro just use feint to deal with double protect stalling TR
>all the feint users suck
>i have to guess they'll protect on top of that (which honestly may be easy since I doubt they would predict feint)
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>sneasler with no boost outspeeds whimsicott
you cant tell me that was a scarf sneasler
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>>59389368
>sneasler with no boost outspeeds whimsicott
Why would it not?
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>>59389368
its probably a speed trainer sneasler anon
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>>59389372
It wasn't because it used fake out and then dire claw so how tf did it oustpeed
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I think I'm on a 10 game losing streak now, need to take a break and come back after searching 'human_on_anthro sneasler rape' on e621
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>>59389385
Sneedler is just faster than Whimsy anon
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>>59389385
when 2 moves have the same prio, then the faster mon goes first

sneasler is base 120 you're NOT ouspeeding her fake out
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>>59389389
>0 results
fucking bullshit
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The brain of a gen 1 30+ year old big boned neckbeard can see the pokemon in everything
>irl ekans shows up at my house last night for some sips of water by the hose faucet
>have irl houndooms which can be poisoned/badly poisoned
>have to put ekans down
>feels batman so magdump snakeshot into it to (hopefully) end its suffering as fast as possible
It hurts me soul, and the "Coyots" are getting closer and closer
This is the real pokemon champions
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>>59389362
i use feint on scizor
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>>59389398
Just take out the rape? Also if thats really your thing just do pokephile and rape. But idk if you want pokemon raping humans or the other way around, you probably need to add a tag for that if it exists
Good yiffing, sicko
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Fuck I can't decide on a mega to make a team around for singles. I wish aggron was better.
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Will they actually bring in tera dynamax and Z moves? That sounds like an actual shitshow having to account for everything at once unless they rotate mechanics
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>>59389418
yeah the main gimmick of this game is having an omni ring that can do all that stuff, they're most likely going to rotate mechanics around because otherwise it would be impossible to balance
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>>59389405
what possible team where (normal?) scizor is worth bringing for that
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>>59389418
I don't think this game will last this long. It's already on its last legs right now.
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>>59389418
Of course they're gonna rotate mechanics and rulesets. The question is if they're gonna have multiple rulesets available for play at the same time.
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I still have yet to see a single enemy pokemon that has been given anything other than its default species name.
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>>59389436
I met a joker who had swapped around the names of his pokemon just so the battle messages would be confusing.
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>>59389423
trick room chesnaught
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>>59389429
my brother this is the new means of official competitive battling, its not going away for an extremely long time
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>>59389429
The game is guaranteed to last until WW at a minimum ass it's where VGC is being played. If when WW comes out they move VGC back to WW then yes, Champions will probably wither and die. I hope it doesn't, though. It's so nice being able to play games without frequent disconnects and the ability to reconnect to a game on the rare disconnect.
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>>59389453
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>>59389429
>It's already on its last legs right now
They literally JUST released the mobile version.
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Does quash get the prankster boost? Will armor tail protect against quash that has been prankster'd?
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>>59389456
They would be stupid to do that honestly
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>seeing people on twitter getting high elo or near champion rank
>master 3 myself, on a 4 win streak but afraid of losing it
>want to push to champion but visibly procrastinating playing the game in fear of losing my current elo and falling down further and further away if i get on a loss streak
How do I combat this type of autism? Of wanting to climb but being too scared of losing or getting a losing streak?
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>>59389461
Yes and yes, the giraffe is a pain in my fucking ass as a Sableye user.
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>>59389456
>>59389463
My hope is that with Champions existing they're gonna break away from the standard turn based combat in proper new generation mainline titles in favor of experimenting with different combat systems like they did with the Legends games. You can have your traditional VGC in Champions, where the actual games can focus on something more engaging for the setting.
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>>59389418
>>59389420
>implying GameGreak will miss the opportunity for CHARIZAAAARRRDD from KANTOOOOOOO to chain his mega into his g-max (only pokemon with g-max can mega gmax of course)
Lmoa
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Still crying internally that the master rank ribbon is only existent in champions and doesn't reflect in the main games, at least for the time being. Hope that changes in the future, but I know it works.
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>>59389334
>>59389342
Bluestacks, that mac thing where you run iOS apps, and some phone mirroring all work.
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anyone mind getting me an eternal floette?
ask away and i might have a shiny to match
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>>59389353
>ychu
He's back
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I'm perfecting a sand team and I'm curious about houndstone, would anyone happen to have one? Stats don't matter
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>>59389436
You have to enable nicknames, they're off by default
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>missing hyper beam into mega blaziken
wow
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whimsicott getting trick room proves gen 5 was made by niggers
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>>59389478
Sounds like ass. LZA was shallow garbage and LA was horrible in its own way.
We needed the main games to embrace a doubles "hard mode" rather than trash the legacy combat system. The only thing we agree on is that Champions feels like a VGC retirement home.
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>>59389513
Does it matter?
There are a lot of TR setters and -6 priority vs -7 isn't making a difference.
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>>59389513
Prankster can't do anything with TR's -7 priority anyway
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>last respects is physical
you guys coulda told me that before I set up light screen
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>>59389520
lets be real, you would have been KO'd anyway
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>>59389517
It goes before Roar
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>>59389520
I've never had a fight decided by screens. They are literally win more. Grimsnarl was a psyops all along
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>>59389516
To each their own, I'd rather something new and experimental even if it's not bad versus just the same turn based system we've had for every single new generation game myself. A hard mode option wouldn't be bad either if they did end up keeping the traditional system for WiWa
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>>59389528
you could always play a different game instead if you want something different?
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>>59389531
>NOOOOOOO THEY CANT INNOVATE MY TURN BASED COMBAT RPG AND TRY NEW THINGS YOU HAVE TO PLAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR THAT
retards like you are why swsh and s/v exist
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>>59389503
I did, days ago.
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Looking for a Floette
Is there any other Pokemon you can't get through the recruit gacha?
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>>59389537
Just Floette currently, I have a feeling once Legendaries/Mythicals get added they'll be added to the pool as well. Maybe special forms like Bloodmoon Ursaluna too but that's more speculative.
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>>59389532
>NOOOOOOOOOOO THE GAME MUST CATER TO MEEEEEEE TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! I DONT WANT TO PLAY A DIFFERENT GAME I WANT TO PLAY MY POKEMANS BUT ONLY THE WAY I WANT THEM TO MAKE IT
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>>59389543
im glad you recognize you're asking the game to cater to you by not attempting to innovate or change and stay turn based, good discussion anon!
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>>59389548
you really thought you looked like this typing that out, huh?
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Kill whoever made the giraffe
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>>59389563
sableye hands typed this post
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>get rock slide flinched so I cant dragon dance
>get rock slide flinched next turn so I cant hyper voice the garchomp
What the fuck dude
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>please God for all that is holy, no new gimmick in gen10
>please God for all that is holy, no new gimmick in gen10
>please God for all that is holy, no new gimmick in gen10
>please God for all that is holy, no new gimmick in gen10
>please God for all that is holy, no new gimmick in gen10
>please God for all that is holy, no new gimmick in gen10
>amen
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>>59389563
Run taunt on a non prankster mon
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>>59389572
>sylveon player
deserved.
get fucked troon lover
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>>59389580
T. Garchomp Zard Y lead
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>>59389537
sent

>>59389501
I can gen this for you, is there any specific moveset/nature/balls/shiny you want?

Anyone else want anything?
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>>59389583
>sent
thank you, anon.
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>>59389576
>he doesnt know
im so sorry anon
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Fraudganium
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>>59389583
Could you gen me a female hisuian goodra? Stats and stuff dont matter I'll train it. I'll post an offer on gts here in a minute, name: mm.
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Insane that you can win this game by just spamming rockslide flinches but I cant hit a hyper beam on a mega blaziken
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>>59389589
shiny or nah?
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I missed focus blast 3 times in a row and lost I hate the stupid bridge pokemon so much
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>>59389589
>>59389583
Not shiny please
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>>59389327
You guys and fags think sinistcha is enough to keep kommo-o alive or should I also use clefable for extra follow-me shit? Considering I'll be using Clangorous Soul.
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someone give me a retard proof core of 4 im tired of being stuck in ultra 1
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>>59389518
Wrong. It now is the same priority as roar and other phasing moves. Will this ever come up? Probably not, but still.
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Is hp or def/spd more meaningful in surviving hard hitting threats? I know the answer is a mixture, but what is the more informed answer to that? Is a mon with like 90 hp and 150 defenses better than 150 hp 90 defenses?
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>>59389604
Life Orb Chomp
Sash Aero
Mega 1 (more offensive)
Whimsicott/Maushold/Sinistcha w/type resist berry
Mega 2 (more defensive, possible set up)
Sitrus Incineroar
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>>59389501
sent

>>59389595
Sent you a (probably legit) one that I had lying around
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>>59389614
thanks, i appreciate it. gonna pair this with mawile in my hard tr
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>>59389583
Oh sorry I was doing errands. I was gonna ask for a shiny houndstone (stats/moves don't matter to me I have 40k VP I'm not using) but you had me covered. Thanks tradeanon!
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>>59389619
No problem! Just make sure to top off the evs.
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>almost no grass attacks/attackers in current meta
>500 billion fairy, dragon, rock, fire, and ground
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>ill be ok as long as they dont get this X
>they get this X
I WILL be poisoned off 30%
I WILL be burned off 15%
I WILL be flinched off 30%
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every single site says that Mega Pyroar is 126 Base Speed but I just got outsped by a Sneasler. I went and removed all their speed in the teambuilder to check Neutral nature 0 speed EVs on both Pyroar is at 126 and Sneasler is at fucking 140. So every single site has Mega Pyroar base speed wrong? I'm assuming that also extends to all the new megas
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How does speed work on the turn someone megas. Does it take into account the base form speed or the mega form speed. I thought it was the former but this raichu outspeed my 200 speed aerodactyl on the turn he mega'd
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>>59389642
Mega is 126 regular is 106. Sneasler has a speed boosting ability, also choice scarf could exist and tailwind too
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>>59389647
all speed updates dynamically now since like gen 7 so it uses the megas speed once it megas. same with tailwind it boosts the turn it's used now
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>>59389418
>Will they actually bring in tera dynamax and Z moves?
oh god I forgot about that absolute DOGSHIT I hope they will be relegated to casual play
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>>59389626
Ironically grass knot destroys rain teama
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>>59389642
Did they use up an item on Sneedler? Because Unburden would proc and double its speed, assuming you're running max speed M-Pyroar.
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fucking niggasaur hitting sleep powder with 100% this is ridiculous
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>>59389652
Ohh that's nice. Mega Beedrill is still mid, isn't it
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>>59389653
I think from a gameplay perspective it's baffling to like megas more than Dmax and Tera it's basically like Restricted Pokemon (Gay)
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>>59389637
>I'll be okay as long as this 95% accuracy move hits
>it misses
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>>59389649
in the team builder with 0 investment it's already faster though. choice scarf and tailwind don't factor in there. you can see in the screen shot neutral speed nature 0 speed evs

>>59389657
nah first turn and farig was out so they couldn't fake out
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>>59389607
Don't have enough spoons left to educate you rn smdh
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>>59389660
game is 100% cheating sometimes, fucker hit 4 in a row and the sleep always lasts 3 turns
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>>59389665
Dynashit and teracrap make pokemon beat their counters which is abominable and rewards research and prep over decision making
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>>59389670
Why would fake out relate to unburden???? Normal Gem ain't here lil bro
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>>59389670
It's not mega pyroar there
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>>59389670
Brainlet-kun, that is base Pyroar
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>>59389679
>>59389680
yoooo i'm fucking stupid. lmfao i forgot about that shit. I kept going in there trying to look at M-Pyroars stats like a dumbass thanks anons
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I hate protect and detect so much
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>>59389663
it's a little gimmicky compared to the rest of the meta. you gotta put in some work
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>>59389687
use taunt, faggot.
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>>59389688
I wanna try it now in singles. Fuck I returned the one I had because I lacked space. The tiny amount of box space is the worst part about the game. I guess this is where home users will shine
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>Log in
>Win 3 games
>Log out
Quit while I’m ahead
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>>59389665
the thing with Megas is that there's a much narrower range of
>which pokemon your opponent can use to Mega
>when they'll do it (in most cases, as soon as they can)
there are exceptions ofc like Gen 7 Gyara can be Mega or Z-Fly, Scizor / Ttar can Mega but doesn't have to be, etc.

Megas are also cool because the Mega stones (and Z-crystals too) provide actual counterplay to buffed Knock Off.

VS with Tera/Dynamax, it provides higher variance because it can be any mon, at any time. I can see the appeal of Tera because of the high skill ceiling, but man the idea of

>lmao I'm fairy/water/steel type now, hope you brought the right coverage and also won the mindgame

just sucks lol.
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Using Triple Axel now that Wide Lens is back
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>>59389703
Does protect not block taint?
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>>59389713
>tera
>high skill ceiling
el
oh
el
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>>59389719
Once you see them use Protect, it's a gamble in your favor if they try protect twice in a row. They most likely won't in favor of an attack or setup move which is your opportunity to taunt.
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>>59389655
Ehhh I have no problem with it
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>>59389706
home let's you hold like 30 pokemon for free I think. I would just download it and transfer pokemon from GO and swap them in and out if you don't have anything else
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>>59389747
Don't got GO but I'll download Home at least. I have plenty of other megas I wanna try out anyway.
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>if they disable a move you're choice scarf locked in makes you struggle
that should have been obvious but at least i learned something new
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>could easily get into masterball 2 last 2 seasons
>can't even break in top 100k now
So this is the power of phoneposters...
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>>59389718
Finally Tsareena will go from D to C Tier.
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I deserve a thank you for all the free wins I be handing out in masterball 4 as I try to win with each of my shinies.
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If any anon can spare a female Weavile, I just put up a trade for a Careful Speed Boost Torchic.
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how hard is it to homebrew 3ds? I want to get my sun and moon pokemans from 3ds to home but I don't have pokebank
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Please send floettd enternal
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>>59389830
Not too hard, as long as you follow the instructions.
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>>59389809
welcome to pokemon

I would shit-talk you more about not knowing that, but I thought until this year that the ghost / fighting immunity went both ways just like the ghost / normal immunity, so I guess we're all retarded in one way or another
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>>59389832
sent
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>>59389830
Can we still use 3DS to send pokemon to home? I thought they had ended 3ds services or something
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>>59389809
I do not understand why shit like choice scarf exists. feels like a forced smegmon meme. I literally never use it outside of pokemon showdown because its forced on my random pokemon.
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Blessed be the trader
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>>59389834
>Not too hard
nice
>>59389842
You need to use pokemon bank to transfer it I believe, which is why I need to get it working with homebrew stuff
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>>59389842
>Can we still use 3DS to send pokemon to home? I thought they had ended 3ds services or something
Yes we can but none of the retard niggerfaggots with extreme CIA psyop rose tinted glasses will EVER fucking tell you that it costs money to do so because they've never tried it. Its part of the "upgraded" home monthly membership plan.
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>>59389843
Sometim3s there are pokemon you just need to do one move but faster
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>>59389845
sent
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>>59389839
I tried to use solarbeam while the opponent had their drampa in its base form and didn't realise it had cloud nine, you play and you learn new stuff
>>59389840
Pikachu is still there you darn 4centgarbage troll
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>>59389809
I've been running a Scarf Trick Disable Banette to pull off this exact thing.
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I spent two and a half hours being stuck in Ultra Ball 1 being out predicted every step of the way

I tried both meta and gimmick teams

What’s worse I just found out that the ZA soundtrack is for the membership instead of the battle pass
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>>59389863
sent
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>>59389830
not too hard
you'll just have to be persistent on some of the steps, but it's not a skill issue, or even a trial-and-error thing where you have to find out what you were doing wrong
you'll just have to attempt some steps over and over until it works

as for using a modded 3DS to download Bank, I haven't tried that (since I still have my old copy of Bank linked to my account), so I don't know how well that will work
I don't know for sure if it will even let you link a new account to it these days
but there's one way to find out!

>>59389842
>Can we still use 3DS to send pokemon to home?
yes
you transfer them into Bank, then select the "transfer to Home" option from the Bank menu, then select the "receive from Bank" option in the Home menu (an icon in the bottom-right of the screen when you're on console, the icon looks like a 3DS)

>I thought they had ended 3ds services or something
they did
you just can't download a new copy Bank from it anymore
retardedly, I think that you can still redownload Bank if your account had already downloaded it before, just not a new copy

but you can still use Bank to store or transfer Pokémon in Gen 5, 6, and 7
and you can use it to send them up to Home
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>>59389863
Do you know how many fucking level 5 male pikachus with that exact same loadout are in the gts that are looking for floette
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>>59389849
>retard niggerfaggots with extreme CIA psyop rose tinted glasses will EVER fucking tell you that it costs money to do so because they've never tried it. Its part of the "upgraded" home monthly membership plan.
damn didnt know that.
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>>59389874
>Do you know how many fucking level 5 male pikachus with that exact same loadout are in the gts that are looking for floette
probably because Pikachu is the default Pokémon that you get when you make a new Home account
>>
NINE POPULATION BOMBS HIT FLAME BODY AND DONT GET BURNT
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>>59389882
damn, what are the odds of that?
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>>59389868
it doesn't even say what the battlepass gives you in the game so i didn't get it
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>>59389842
>>59389849
>>59389879
It doesn't cost anything to transfer pokemon from Bank to Home. Home is free to use, and Bank was made free when the Eshop shut down.

It costs $3/month to have the ability to transfer pokemon from Home into Champions.
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>>59389887
the battlepass just gives you the locked stuff in the battlepass
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yiff in hell troon
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>>59389889
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>>59389889
I don't have home premium and I can send pokemon to champions
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>>59389896
>>59389898
Oh, I might have had it backwards.
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>>59389874
Whoops never used home, friend code is NUJKEJCSKRNZ if that helps
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>>59389532
i bet you think nu final fantasy is the best thing ever
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>>59389892
>wolflover lost
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>>59389909
Just post the name you use on Home
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>>59389892
Kek, at least its less faggoty than the tryhards who spell Wolf as Wolfe in their name
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I was a little distracted during battle.
Are you really able to have two of the same mon in your team? Hitting either one did nothing to dispel any "illusion".
Maybe it was an Imposter Ditto?
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>>59389791
Pokemon GO is free on android. You can't transfer mons you get in champions to home just fyi
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>>59389913
NV
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>enemy forgot they flung their iron ball already
>I get a free attack and they die
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>>59389915
Impostor only ever targets enemies.
It must have been a non-Impostor Ditto who used Transform to manually select its ally.
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>>59389896
>Doesn't attempt to press the 3DS button
>This feature cant be accessed with the basic plan
>This feature can be accessed with the Premium plan available for purchase on the nintendo eshop
>nintendo doesn't list this on its websites anywhere because they phased out all 3DS support years ago and assume no one still has access to a 3DS.
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>>59389843
I was using choice scarf tsareena in the last meta to outspeed aero/dragonite/garchomp and one shot them with triple axel
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>>59389920
>fling iron ball strats
Do people hate the giraffe that much
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>>59389898
You can move pokemon from home to champions freely. You can't move them from your 3DS to home for free.
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>>59389917
Yeah there's no way anyone can find you. You'll have to put something else up for it
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>>59389916
Expected that but thought you got 30 box space for linking to home or something. Aghh I guess when i have nothing better to do I can install GO and trade beg for stuff.
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I was one win away from champions and that fucking maushold hits 9 bombs into a defensive volcarona and kills it from 90% with no flame body proc oh my fucking god
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>>59389933
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I fucking hate this game but I can't stop playing
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>Mega Raichu Y used drain punch
>Dragonite used dragon dance
>Dragonite used ice beam
And here I thought things would change in ultra ball tier
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>>59389965
better
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>>59389962
what's your elo and spot? I'm around 1900s and I'm debating whether to push on
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>hit masterball spamming the exact same tr team every game

the ultimate counter to me was fucking competitive milotic, that mon is satan
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>>59389983
I was 2040 and now im 1974 because I juat lost a fucking sneasler 1v1 BECAUSE THE SNEASLER GETS TO WIN THE SPEED TIE THEN FAKE OUT THEN DIRE CLAW SLEEP THEN CLOSE COMBAT FOR THE WIN WHAT THE FUCK
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>>59389979
Thanks and God bless
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>>59389931
I've seen it used in the reverse. Giraffe sets up trick room and then ttar or weavile flings it the last turn to get a free flinch and move normally outside of it
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>>59389994
>See Milotic on the enemy team
>Lead with Staraptor and Farigiraf
>They always lead with the Milotic (presumably because they’re greedy for the Intimidate boost Competitive gives them)
>Staraptor Final Gambits it off the face of the earth
>”The match has ended due to a forfeit”
Every fucking time in MB3
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>>59390008
Sounds fun, does it work vanilla or do you play a team that makes it look like the Staraptor is a mega?
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>>59390008
Milotic spammers are retarded ngl.
>have incin in team
>never bring it to gambit or milotic
>they always lead and do nothing with both
Also
>didn't deduce the staraptor was gambit since it's next to the trick room giraffe
lol
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>>59390014
Pic is team but swapped out Corv for Scarf Staraptor as I was finding I barely ever used its Tailwind or, when I did, most of my mons still got outsped. Either lead with it and nuke something off the field or end games with it once TR ends. Team is a bit unorthodox but has consistently carried me to MB in all current seasons
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>>59390026
KangaskhanDEITY
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>>59389998
Damn I got 100 points to catch up then. I barely have a team
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I like the idea of trick room but my retarded ass can't pilot it properly ever
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>>59389915
>>59389922
This strat is intriguing.
What would be the most stupid broken combo of two of the same pokemon on a team? Are there any?
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>>59390043
Toxapex
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>>59390032
Kang is nowhere near as broken as it was in 2014, 2015 or 2016 but breaking opponent’s Focus Sashes with Parental Bond is still a fantastic tool for dealing with annoying shitters like Whimsicott, Sneaslers, etc.
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>>59390052
Did he get nerfed or something?
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Putting a wide lens on venasaur cause I'm evil
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>>59390069
iirc back in gen7 it lost power up punch, parental bond got it's damage nerfed and uhhhh maybe something else
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>>59390026
>>59390008
What do you do if they protect and now they know you are final gambiting, and are likely the slowest mon now under TR? Kinda feel slike you lose.
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>>59390069
The second hit went from 50% of the first hit to 25%
Champions also lacks Return for hard hitting STAB without drawbacks
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>>59390069
Parental bond got its damage nerfed in gen 7 then it and all other Physical normal types lost Return in the Gen 8 move cut so it's best STAB option is double edge.
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>>59390041
You press trick room then you start attacking anon, don't know what else to tell you
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>>59390069
>he
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>>59390087
>has
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>>59390088
>no
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Need to stop making turns so fast and think them through, 3 games i lost that I fpuldve easily won cause I played like a retard
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>>59390069
Everything what the other anons said, but base 100 also isn't anywhere near as strong of a speed stat as it was back in Gen 6. Also, Sucker Punch got nerfed to base 70 BP from 80 back in Gen 7 IIRC, which was one of Kangaskhan's mainstay moves.
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>>59389583
me please
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>have to wait 90 seconds for my opponent to pick the same 4 metamons he always picks
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>>59390069
She also lost Seismic Toss
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>>59390099
Accept that a certain amount of time spent thinking is required to play this game. If you can't keep up, your attention span might be a better fit for something like Fortnight or Overwatch.
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>>59390077
Power-up Punch is a TM in Gen 9 and Kangaskhan can learn it. The move just isn't in Champions at all.
>>59390112
From what I can find, it looks like you might be able to have a Kangaskhan with Seismic Toss in the most recent generation if you transfer it from an earlier generation.
Not relevant to the thread though since she can't learn it in Champions anyway.

The loss of Return hurts a lot, though. Why would the devs cut such a mainstay move for physical normal types?
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How does Instruct works with Parental Bond, Kang attack 4 times?
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Getting out of bed to eat after using sleep powder on gholdengo, don't play dehydrated and on an empty stomach
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>>59390132
This would be funny, but I can't think of many good synergies except a quadruple Bite basically guaranteeing a flinch.
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>>59390080
If they Protect or I suspect they’ll protect I switch out / U-Turn to another non. The strat hasn’t worked out in some matches but in a lot of them it has, either on lead or in the clean-up turns when TR has finished. But it also has U-Turn for pivoting, Quick Attack for priority and Brave Bird in case I need an powerful alt move.
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anything i should change? im a shitter so idk if ill use tailwind properly, planning on using him as a mega if that changes much
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>>59390132
No, would be funny if it did though, would be the iron head jirachi of dubs if you slapped rock slide on it
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>>59390160
>Sky Attack
Is this Singles or Doubles?
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i haven't played since before the first ranked thing ended, do you lose your rank?
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>>59390175
Everyone gets set to Pokeball at the start of the season.
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>>59390160
I like to use him as a tailwind lead in singles. But I wouldn't mega him since he might take a hit doing it and the tailwind is meant to enable another mega to sweep
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>>59390164
So it's one double attack, but then Instruct just does one more single attack?
Still, 3x 30% flinch chance isn't bad at all.
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>battling who I can tell from her team, name and character is a cute biological black girl
>sit up straight and start playing more seriously to impress her
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>>59390168
singles, aint try doubles yet because i want to do doubles with my bro if they ever add that
>>59390180
i see, so stealth rock would be a bad idea too then if i'm gonna mega. maybe i can balance his stats more and make him slightly bulky, im sure he can be 1 tapped mega or not
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>>59390192
Is it even possible to send friend requests to or otherwise interact with trainers you get matched with in random battles?
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>>59390195
If you wanna use him as a mega offense maybe a screen setter or pebbles setter would work better than Aero as the lead. Pebbles to break sashes or screen or veil to make Aero survive an extra attack
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If I open farig + incin, is it more dmg to twinbeam/spread move + flare blitz, or helping hand flare blitz? I assume the answer is the latter, but that is more punished by protect
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btw our first /pcg/ draft league just finished its draft >>59390137

who has the best team? who has the worst team?

>No Charizard, Kingambit, Basculegion, Archaludon, Sneasler, Pelliper, Sableye or Grimsnarl
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>>59390096
sent
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>>59390206
Thanks
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>>59390233
You are correct.
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>>59390233
There's a lot of factors at play, like your target and the investments on the cat and giraf but in general I think hitting with both is often going to be more damage, the base Special Attack of the giraf is not that bad.
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>>59390258
>>59390257
yea helping hand seems kind of redundant on farig in hard tr teams. sure its cool if you lead torkoal, but that is one of the only situations I love it in
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>>59390237
Weather is gay and so are screens.
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>>59390233
two attacks is better than one, as per my calculation
>lowrolls on both
>two attacks : 180 damage
>helping hand: 153 damage
>>59390237
looking at Jam's pick, now i see the advantages of letting other people pick first.
How the hell did we let Mawile be unpicked for so long
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>>59389583
>>59389823 in a dusk ball, please.
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I only run cancerous mons cause I need VP for more creative stuff got damnit
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>>59390276
How much VP could you need? I've been playing for like 4 days and I've already accumulated like 40k VP in total and finished the battle pass.
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>>59390272
want it shiny or nah? I can help you in like 15 mins
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The constant mindgame with protects in doubles is kinda ass, the game just becomes rock paper scissors style guessing
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>>59390301
this is why you double protect turn one to set the tempo.
Once you expect them to protect, you can boost freely
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>>59390301
Rock paper scissors is a much better game than paper scissors.
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>>59390299
Regular is fine.
That gives me time to toss up another Torchic, I just had a strat idea that requires Oranguru.
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>>59390283
When I got started I spent most of the tutorial VP gains on cosmetics and ive just been grinding random achievements and matches to get more, wasted a lot on dumb movesets and unviable pokemon too, at least in Master Ball if you lose some in a row you get matched with other struggling players so you can go on a streak getting the full 300 again. I just wish vp scaled higher than 300 as you upgrade to higher balls, real flaw in the game
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Someone has lend a switch from a friend just to buy the starter pack? Can you do it in another profile and just buy it? or do you have to buy the stupid nintendo online first?
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>Worry Seed reverts back to normal upon switch out
Fuck
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>Log into my old PokeGO
>have an azumarill to send to HOME
Cool
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>>59390327
It missed you
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mawile = cute
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>>59390330
Play Rough's accuracy isn't cute though.
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>>59390315
sent
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>>59390299
>>59390315
I've also just deposited a Timid Speed Boost Torchic, in exchange for a male non-shiny Oranguru in a nest ball.
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>>59390329
Also found an umbreon who could be annoying with Yawn
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>this could have been a mmorpg
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Only need farigiraf to be able to play trick room. If anyone have it pls.
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>>59390376
Pokemon games wouldn't completly die if there was an MMORPG?
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>>59390347
sent
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>>59390378
sent
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>>59390345
>>59390383
Thanks!
I said nest ball, not net ball, but it's fine.
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>can't even break above 1700 elo
I need a change of pace.
What is a fun team to pilot?
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>>59390396
What do you find fun
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>>59390401
Just off meta.
No zard, rain or floette
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>>59390396
Use sunroom
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>>59390411
You could do that shit with Helping Hand on M-Kangaskhan Fake Out
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Does anyone have Scarlet and can trade me an A-Vulpix? I got a bunch of old breedjects in special balls if you'd like one in exchange.
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switch 2 edition doko
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>>59390411
having fun with this one, still ultra 2 though
https://youtu.be/Tba_JfxOVqw?si=5zseZDUh2IaNXlFh
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>>59390411
These have been my most successful mememons so far in Singles.
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>>59390434
Oh right, their items aren't visible.
Expert Belt, Focus Sash, Leftovers, Sablenite, Choice Scarf, Blazikenite.
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The humble tactical midgame grimmsnarl setting up screens so annihilape can rape the opponent with rage fist boosts from garchomp rock slide switchins
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Oh thank god I got a Beedrill in recruitment now I don't have to bother with GO and Home. Now I can try that out when I'm done trying out M Aggron and M Heracross. Also can just hoard my tickets as I got pretty much all the mons I like available until new ones are added,
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>13k master ball 3 yesterday
>wake up
>26k
everyone and their moms grinding champion tier or what?
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MDB convinced me. Pyroar is absolute ass and no team can save it
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Just realised my opps name was bigblkdk and they're a female
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>>59390457
I dun goofed and mega evolved the beedrill in go and apparently can't get it back to normal for around 8 hours.

I wonder how it fits in the metagame, probably need to hope you get someone with a mega floette or sylveon who probably won't even select them if they see beedrill, it could probably do well in BSS with gay grass cat everywhere
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>>59390472
Oh yeah, giraffags would have to take a beefy U-Turn if they decide to stay in
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>>59390385
Why you lie to me anon :[
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>>59390462
I'm still in great ball
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>>59390463
I have a fire ninetales on loan in case I get mega pyroar, garchomp being everywhere doesn't help it, rarely did I get games that I could freely spam eruption with my typhlosion-h next to charizard
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>>59390472
I guess the meme is to u turn until you can get a kill with fell stinger. Gets walled easily tho. Even with drill run.
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>>59390463
Tailwind + Sunny Day whimsicott looks a great partner for it
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Got the lopunnite for After You shenanigans
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>>59390490
He did a video with Pokeaim and the only times they won was with Sceptile lol
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>>59389626
Rain team is made for stapler bridge not water types. Basculegion is countered by Kingambit so no grass or electric is required.
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Made it back to Master ball with this :)))
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>>59390504
>Rain team is made for stapler bridge not water types
Laggron is here now.
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Is there any good usecase for doubles Slurpuff? String Shot and Dazzling Gleam are very tempting as well as options of any coverage and Yawn. hmmmm... low stats are a nuisance, but it almost seems worth it.
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welp i got masters with raichu, gholdengo and the usual suspects.
Raichu is great, hands down the main mega in the team, almost always useful, great for mindgames. Oneshots galore.
My favourite bit is baiting swampert thinking its safe and then basculegion killing it instead. Thanks for the rain, chump.
Gholdengo is good too, but I think the nerf made him too balanced. He is just okay, great at sniping leads early, but thats it. Most of the time he just sits there doing nothing after the make it rain.
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>>59390513
slurpuff got omega nerfed with losing belly drum.
As of now, i cannot find a good use for it that someone else cant do better. Hatterene is a better support mon, tinkaton is a better attacker.
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>>59390498
After You is so funny. One of my first teams was After You Hatterene next to Focus Punch Mega Crabominable, TR of course.
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>>59390498
What's the point of having Mega Lopunny use a status move like that?
Just so she can target ghost-type teammates?
What move are you planning to use it with?
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>>59390523
Fastest After You user, aside from Vileplume in the sun.
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UltraBall 1 with this shit.

How tf do I deal with Zard Y? Such a stupid Pokémon.

keeping Umbreon, Scovillain, and Decidueye if preferable UwU
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>>59390534
Nevermind, Vileplume in the sun isn't even that fast.
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>using Prankster Liepard
>opponent's Kleavor uses Swords Dance and gets encore'd into an infinite loop
>I get a free Nasty Plot while he switches out
>opponent sends in Sneasler
>this opponent KNOWS I have Prankster Encore
>he still uses Fake Out
>this doesn't kill me, he gets encored, and I get another free Nasty Plot
>kill the rest of his team with my boosts
>sends in Sneasler as his last mon, so he can't even switch out of an Encore
>he fucking uses Fake Out again and it doesn't even kill me
>free win
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>>59390523
>mega blastoise water spout
>torkoal eruption
I don't like the matchup vs tailwind Pikotton though
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>>59390539
Bro your rock slider??
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>>59390539
It think it would hinge on your ability to time Basculegion's arrival to Last Respects the Charizard while not entering a trade deficit early. Even if you could set Snow, Froslass likely folds if she gets attacked on switch in. I'd look to Tyranitar or Pelipper or Aerodactyl etc.
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>>59390539
Your team is quite similar to a Turin top 8 team so maybe do check it out.
>https://pokepast.es/f4d6a167183f0d12
To play scovillain, you always lose to charizard with your main leads, so you HAVE to have either rock slidemon or play it in rain.
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1axlwmzPA49rYkqXh7zHvAtSP-TKbM0ijGYBPRflLSWw/edit?gid=791705272#gid=791705272
(cannot post a tinyurl link for some reason)
Go here > check M-A, and everyone there uses scovillain with either rain or rock slide (mega aero or lycanroc)
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>>59390545
You can't have mega-bunny using after you on your mega-Blastoise.
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Are rain teams getting rarer for you guys too?
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>>59390564
nope, everyone and their mom is playing swampert
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>>59390562
Derp, regular mystic blastoise in rain then
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>max sp.atk invested alolan ninetales
>freeze dry swampert with no screens or any other form of protection
What the fuck how?
It was chipped even.
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>>59390548
The recruit didn't give me anyone...
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>>59390553
Yeah, probably just replace Frostlass with Tyranitar. And maybe Decidueye gotta go too.
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>>59390570
Im about to go insane here.
How much clearer can we make it?
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>>59390243
thanks a lot anon
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>>59390561
ty meta anon. Though probably gonna stick with spicy extract and foul play for the funny, since they are my fav pokemon
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>>59390580
Like this?
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>>59390580
I'm too lazy to get pokemon HOME...
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>>59390457
there's a free M-Beedril in Go right now
Just login and click on any gym during a mega raid to keep it permanently
If you transfer it you can get another one and keep one in champions indefinitely
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>>59390568
>32 SpA Ninetales-Alola Freeze-Dry vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Swampert-Mega: 168-196 (96 - 112%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
>32 SpA Ninetales-Alola Freeze-Dry vs. 32 HP / 0 SpD Swampert-Mega: 168-196 (81.1 - 94.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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for me, its grinding pokemon go for pokemon and anything i can't reasonably get from GO I roll with all my tickets and using the type tickets to increase the odds of getting what i need so I'm not a burden to the guy that trades people pokemon on /pcg/
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>>59389889
Home is free for everything unless you expand your boxes. I keep everything on a secondary Sword/Scarlet save file.
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>>59389478
That would make no sense. If Champions is the pvp for the mainline games, should its battle system not match the mainline games? Like imagine if Smash Bros single player mode was always Stamina, but then multiplayer was regular with percent and stocks. There would be a disconnect; people would play the single player, like it, want to try pvp, then find out it's a completely different game. Champions should match the battle system of the games as close as possible, so any changes to the mainline games should be reflected in Champions. Legends games can do whatever and go be experimental.
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>>59389676
It's the opposite. Dynamax and Tera are dynamic and can be done at any time based on the state of the battle. Megas and Z moves you have to precommit to because they require a hold item.
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Tera is by far the best regional gimmick for competitive pokemon even if it looks like ass
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>>59390584
Sent
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>>59390632
I hated it and I hope it never returns
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>>59390633
OH!!! Thanks a lot anon.
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>>59390637
Yeah no problem.

If anyone else wants an eternal flower floette lmk
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>>59390594
This feels wrong
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>>59390647
Base 81 special attack bruv.
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Kek, just won a BSS game spamming focus blast with typhlosion-h, his swampert got a Sp Def drop on the switch in after i missed first against his pyroar
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>>59390641
>If anyone else wants an eternal flower floette lmk
This is so bizarre, for some reason, getting a Flooete with this difficult way, makes it feel way more special and satisfying than doing this >>59388145 I wonder if we will get more of these rare mons.
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Went from hardstuck great ball 1 to ultra 1 in one day. Feeling good about these teams for now.
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>>59390424
Bump for this.

>>59390676
Gratz anon
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>>59390674
mega Kalos starters were the same way until mobile released.
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>>59390676
Forgot image. Bromons for life. Just missing Nidoking
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>>59390543
I wish Lilligant was in the game.



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