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>>59400874hope they nerf sleep scam and tone down the power creep in this set.
>>59400889lollmao
>Less than 24hrs before the next set>No threadEven pokémon sleep mogs us...
>>59400917pokemon sleep has soul unlike this gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmxBwKNm6k
Remember to do your random battles.
>>59400936Might have to start adding Pokemon Sleep music to my rotation because this is very light and fun.
>>59400995it's nice that a game finally uses music from the animehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tigUNDG9Cc
Haven’t been in these threads for like two weeks. What’s the consensus on the new set from what we’ve seen so far? Personally it looks pretty boring to me. But thank fuck it’s not even more Paldea at least.
Lycanroc ex and Empoleon ex will save the set.
Where is the full set list?
>>59401028consensus is, as always, WHO FUCKING KNOWS THEY NEVER SHOW US THE GOOD CARDSwait for leaks dipshit
Pulled a second Planeta of my favoorite fishe from WP
>>59401028>from what we’ve seen so farMaybe read first before blowing a gasket
Finally, I get a 3d+ from WP after like a month. Worth the rewind watch.
>>59401340just in time for the Miraidon deck to get powercrept
What did you guys get from the 24-hour WP this set? I only got Juliana and Sada.
Second god pack after 2,085 packs, maybe third I don't remember, but I feel nothing
>>59401352juliana, sada, rainbow miraidonfeelin good about it desu
Do you think Cyrus will ever return to being a 2 of? Seems like even all the Greninja decks now only have the one. Been slowly working towards a 2nd copy on an alt but doesn't seem like I'm gonna be playing 2 in anything.
>>59401073Cute fish >>59401340Nice!>>59401354I like the bird. That's pretty lucky, I think I got one godpack ever and I started shortly after launch>Free 30k dust Neat
Reposting from previous. I got 3 star Lillie yesterday.
>>59401398Having the opportunity to drag out 2 Pokemon that are actually worth dragging out seems like a pretty rare occurrence. You only need 3 points, so chances are whatever you drag out will win you the game.
Okay what the FUCK was this pack. Insane. Is turtle playable?
>>59401410Grats. Do you have the other two Lillies?
>>59401430Unfortunately not. And Im pretty sure I started too late to get the playmat, sleeves and avatar. Im sad about that.
>>59401423yeah. it's pretty good when paired with altaria, this is the best deck i've tried it with so farsableye also works
Post your number of Total opened packs2starsImmersivesSmall ShinyBig ShinyCrownsGod packsMine248410043633250
When update will be up?
>>59401354bombirdier is probably permastaple so id be pretty cheesed about that one
>>59401354Sceptile is cool tho and birds are cool
>>59401352Sada and Raninbow Miraidon, I missed everything else.
Best way to emu alts?Why not just queue 10 games at the same time and open packs every day? Im pretty sure thats how ebay sellers do it.
I spent 200 hourglass on common hitmontop and riolu after I noticed I had 2 mega lucario ex...Just in time for the season to end. I didnt even get to play one game.
>>59401352Bold of you to assume I completed enough of the set to trigger the 24h WPs
>>59401494Why didnt you just ask someone here to trade you the commons?
>>59401454>no jugglerYou are doing it wrong
Still looking to trade my Juliana for your Sightseer!
>>59401552In all my 6 months of playing this game I haven't traded with anyone. Seems too much of a hassle to add people and coordinate the trades...Should I try it?
>>59401443I skipped that Lillie set, a set I would have never used, so that I'd perpetually have 30 tickets and instantly unlock new cosmetics each month. Each month I build the 30 tickets back and do it all again. Thanks, Lillie>>59401565Surely you know this is a horrible trade for anyone with Sightseer. Miniset 2 star cards are inherently less valuable than 2 star cards from larger sets
New Set Drops in 6 hours
>>59401577if you dont want to trade with anyone else emulate an alt account on mumu player and just share yourself the low rarity cards you dont already have from each set, youll be finished very quickly.
>>59401494>200 hourglasses for some 1d cards people would just give you for freedamn bro
>>59401610>Surely you know this is a horrible trade for anyone with SightseerIs it?Yes, Sightseer is from the first "2 in 1" pack, but Juliana actually sees competitive success:https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks/mega-blaziken-ex-b1-greninja-a1?game=POCKET&format=standard&set=B3aDoes Sightseer see any competitive play?4 stages 1s give 0.8 draws on average and a fair chance for your supporter for the turn to do literally nothing.
What Ex are we expecting besides revealed in trailer?Empoleon Ex?
>>59401555Maybe the lack of Area Zero is the biggest question mark.However, his list looks pretty standard:https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/69ffa3fddfbdf089cbbd65d8/player/valden/decklistJuggler might be more fun, though.
>>59401692i assume that one of the dogs(maybe more) would get an ex cause of the puppy gimmick then again, sweets relay never got a ex so who knows
I didn't plan to even collect them all but I got super lucky with the Wonderpicks that I finished the 2 stars, what are some good decks to run for the Future and Past cards?
Is this fuck-ass slop finally dying like most the failed mobile shits they pump out?
>>59401621Why in 6 hours?I have a system and I open my cards now cause I get 3 packs.This will throw everything off
>>59401757It's too low-effort to ever die as it costs peanuts to keep up.
>>59401757It's literally free money, half of the time they don't even pay artists for new art anymore, and I'm sure that designing "you deal 140 damage but this way" cards doesn't take that much brainpower either
>>594015771 and 2 diamonds are really easy to trade. Most people here would just take any card for what you needed.
>>59401757Everyone I knew that was playing it has completely dropped it, I'm probably going to do the same if this shit doesn't get any better
>>59401806Never thought of that way but that makes sense. I dropped it and many others dropped it after low pull rates got annoying along with other mobile jewery but running a png slot machine with nothing much technical wise going on will keep it alive through whales for years to come.
new pack when?
>>5940210620 mins
4756180562522352Please rate my full art binder. It was fun filling it.
immersive and gold trading when?
>>59402126Added but I'm not sure if I know how to do that. Is that just in the community tab?
>Game so dead that there are zero leaks Can we just stop pretending this game will not be EoS by end of year?>picoh nvm lol tax payer money bailing it out
hello where is the pag :DDDD
>>59402152How is Denas baseball team doing this year?
>>59401410>>59402126Showcases are based, you are based for engaging with them
>>59402157but whats the best kind of showcase?
>>59402152Mini sets are distributed server-side, they don't leak.
>>59402152>Can we just stop pretending this game will not be EoS by end of year?God I hope, then I can focus all on Digimon Alysion whenever the fuck that comes out
>>59402160My vote goes to display boards but I think binders are more expressive on average
>>59402160fun themed ones. most are just "my collection of rare cards" which isn't impressive by itself.
>>594014637052910201032
>>59402178>fun themed oneslike what? the gligar and bonsly one was kinda funny
>>59402188>sleeping pokemon>multiple of the same mon in the art>pokemon at the beach>tongues out>indoorsWhatever you want man.
>>59402188MEMES AND PORN
>>59402149No idea but it tells you to link your friend code to share it. Its set to public though.
Update...
>Dedenne immersive Dropped.
leak?
>>59402243yeah
zzz
>>59402211Found it
>>59402247water sleep now? wtf dena
>>59402247>Iggly/darkrai/milotic ex sleep scum
>>59402250They're tacitly admitting that sleep scam is here to stay
>elesaI didn't want to open this set...
>>59402256>hit by a strayBrother just trade for it, don't let your hourglasses bleed out.
>>59402258kinda mid and that rainbow art is mediocre
>>59402258>conditional 120 for twoEh...
>>59402259>trade for a waifucard for a brand new setI'm F2P, that's not happening.
>>59402262GAAAAAY
>>59402262Damn this boy is zesty
>>59402266SLAAAAAY
Yawwwwwn
>>59402266Guzma sidegrade.
>>59402266side grade guzma?
>>59402266It's shit.
>>59402262Gyarados bros are we back?
>>59402262This can be used turn 1, can't it?
>>59402262gay but useful
>>59402274Where does it say it can't?
>>59402264Well I'll tell you what, if I pull her it's happening. You probably have some random card I'd be happy to take for her.
>elesa accessoriesbut i dont want to spend money...
None of the new Puppy Pile cards have evolutions.
There's nothing good this set is there
>toxapex can do 40 damage in poison 60 per turn with squid?
>>59402286M-Altaria sleep bros we eating good
>>59402285That's rough buddy...>>59402288No Empoleon either :(
>Munchlax Potential good card of this deck
>rainbow zoroark and sableyeI'm not upset.
>>59402291
Carbink ramp...
So how many hourglasses are you putting into this set?
>DeNA saw everyone complaining about sleepslop and printed "baxcalibur that inflicts sleep">it even has a tutor
>>59402308I'll open a few packs tonight once my daily resets but that's probably it.
>Full Art Puppy Loving Girlwho wants to buy a cupcake
>8x 1 Star cardsThe really don't want people to get 2 Star 24h picks fast
>not a single new pack in my WPsWhat a disaster of a set.
>open 10>not a single card above diamond 3I was robbed
Shite.
>They buffed SleepOkay time to uninstall, it's been fun
>>59402328Can I have your Oak?
>>59402327B4A is absolutely going to have the last of the Paldea Pokemon that aren't in Pocket. Probably gonna be based on Pecharunt and the Loyal Three since Terapagos was in Paradox Drive
Wallace seems goodMilotic will probably be goodDedenne could maybe be goodThe rest seem like shit, especially PUPPY PILE, no fucking way that will work
Psyduck, same as the one in this set.Feebas, Hide (W): Flip a coin, if heads attacks & their effects do nothing.Frosslass: same as the one in this set.Raichu: same as the one in this set.Quagsire(Fighting), Energy Press (F) (C) (C): 40+30 for each energy attached to the opponent.
>>59402338wallace is good and will be always viable assuming 50hp monsmilotic is a sick joke dedenne is trashi like munchlax and elesa
>>59402324This with memory light and the rage Ursaring can potentially do 190 damage for 2 energy
>pulled crown munchlaxhope this card is good
>>59402338>>59402345Only thing is that Wallace can evolve Feebass and Magikarp and that's really itI mean I guess Staryu and Snom can also be evolved but there's hardly anything else
>3 Shiny IndeedeesShame I never use the slut, fucking hell at least I got the Small Balloon Crown
>>59402328..........same
>>59402353I'll trade ya for one, you been looking for anything?
40 packs, very lucky.
>random solo battles have Milotic/Iggly/Darkrai deck on rotationHAAHAHAH YES SHOOT ME IN THE HEAD WHILE YOU'RE AT IT
>>59402377lmao no way
>>59402360You got M-Manectric or Sylveon?
>>59402266Time to dick roll for another one...
>>59402266what is the use case for this card? why would i want to bounce my own tools?
>>59402391To equip a different one.
>>59402391So you could switch from a cape to a helmet, or vice-versa. Or move a tool to a different mon.
>>59402391I think you need to combo it with red card to cuck their items
>>59402391Imagine you have a +20 hp tool on a mon that will die regardless next turn. Now you can Elesa and attach that one to the mon in the bench that will survive an extra one.
>>59402402>2 card combo to be a worse guzmawow>>59402403why would i not just run a second cape
>>59402406Because your second cape is already in the from getting Guzmad or bottom decked.
>>59402408if they guzma'd then i have no tools and elesa is useless
>>59402410They used Guzma 2 turns ago.
>>59402377also it's the one deck you have to beat for your 12 advanced difficulty hourglasses. have fun!
>>59402391Just use it before adding your own tools.
>>59402266holy shit this is so fucking badi get that they had to make it a supporter because otherwise you could use it to get giga fuckoff copycats but this is unplayable so why even print it in the first place
These retards really added yet another sleep deck and even feature Darkrai Igglybuff in its tutorial. Maybe it was a good thing they got kicked out of the World Cup yesterday
hope this game crashes and burns
>>59402328>dat image/vt/ bro?>>59402396>>59402399>>59402466That's.... such a waste of a deck slot. Especially when Guzma exists
>>59402466or i could just use guzma and discard their tools instead of giving them back? seriously, the ONLY point of this card is to bounce your own tools, and that's an effect that has practically no use. if i REALLY REALLY needed to be able to swap tools on a pokemon, i would just use field blower because that card at least has a useful effect in most games.
ART OF HER BEING KNOTTED WHEN
>>59402476>>59402479Guzma is a MALE and I am not a girl or gay so I will use Elesa instead.
>>59402483Probably never, pokegirls that are original from the TCG become obscure ironically enough. Look at pic related for example, such unique design and yet nobody has draw stuff of her.
>>59402483what will she be worth?
>>59402496puppy pile is totally DOA so fuck all.
>>59402494Clearly you didn't see the quantity of art that was made of the Budding Expeditioner.
>>59402500>puppy pile is totally DOA so fuck allsurely no->puppy pile is all shit basics and a loligood lord, even sweet relays had a better start
>Get FA Wallace>Get FA ElisaThank goodness Elisa was in this pack so I could trade her for Puppy Loving Girl. Putting a loli FA and goonbait FA in the same pack was a good idea. Now let's see what I get for Wallace...
Damn this pack sucks ass. Can't believe none of the puppies got evolutions. Can't believe they buffed sleep AGAIN, they fucking want this archetype of "you don't get to play because of my forced 50/50 interaction and also lose half your health" to fucking stay.Also if I get ONE MORE FUCKING CATERPIE.
>>59402513>Also if I get ONE MORE FUCKING CATERPIE.to be fair, its the best caterpie so farjust need a good butterfree ex (might as well make it sleep edition)
>>59402508the lack of evolutions doesn't really matter, the concept of "2 energy basics with 60 hp" meant it was dead no matter what.
>>59402519>the concept of "2 energy basics with 60 hp" meant it was dead no matter what.true, but evos could have buffed it a biteven if it was a blanket "do x dmg for every puppy power" there could have been somethingbut now its all deck fodder
>>59402505>pokeGIRLS that are original...
>got rainbow mega diancie we got a deck for it yet?
You see the developers' intent was to use Puppy Power with your Arcanine ex + Memory Light or Celebi
>>59402508Sweets Relay had evolution cards and some variety to its attack. Puppy Pile is just 6 cards that are basically the same.
I don't understand why Piplup doesn't have evolutions in this set
>>59402539please understand, we had to pad out the 1* cards but were too lazy to make another empoleon
>>59402539its a fake out, like all the puppy cards that have no evosi assume its dena's new attempt to cheat us with new packs
wow.....this is trash
>>59402509Want a Juliana for Wallace?
Is this the biggest skip pack of all time Holy fuck
i think mega sableye is underrated desuabsol has always struggled with its low damage output causing it to miss KOs, the extra 40 on sableye is actually a lotit also prevents sacky plays like sleep scam shoving an igglybuff up your ass to turn the game winning point into a 50/50, they just die if they do that
>>59402494>>59402505Welder got a lot of love
So not only is Milotic more sleep support it's also a Magneton that can be run in non water decks, a Giratina ex without the turn skip drawback and an upgrade to Wigglytuff ex
new caterpie is really good, igglybuff in shambles3 waifu trainersevery ex is goodsheeeeeesh great pack tbqh wait why do i see people bitching about the pack being bad? are they braindead LO
>>59402543Sure.Mew icon. 5321-6571-8962-9140
>>59402565>igglybuff in shamblesCaterpie dies instantly from 2 Darkrai and and Iggly before it can evolve, because Darkrai damage pings before their turn ends.
What the fuck were they thinking with Puppy Pile?... There's no way someone thought a good deck could come of this, right? Maybe if a single fucking Arcanine was good.
>>59402582>after 2 darkraioh you don't live in reality, carry on being a dumb bitch
>>59402583stoutland is good but there's no room for it
>>59402555Who?
>>59402565>igglybuff in shambleswhy? because you can get butterfree on the board? why are you playing butterfree in the first place? the old one is shit and so is the new onethat's like saying igglybuff is in shambles because regice exists
Does solo step battles still give pack hourglasses from only the first battle from each difficulty level?
Anyone wants a RR Mega Diancie for RR Milotic?
>>59402377This unironically made me uninstall. Pvp is already the worst shit imaginable but they made pve cancerous too. I will not play sleep ice pop slop
HOLY SHIT MY FAVORITE POKEMON ACTUALLY GOT A FULL ARTI DON'T EVEN CARE THAT THE CARD IS BAD, BASED PACK
Uninstalled today.
am I tripping or is this game badly optimized? I'm having no problems with Champions however I'm experiencing heavy lag in pocket.
>>59402601This is easily the best part of the setHopefully I can get it through wonder pick, I really don’t want to pull on this set
>How this patch made me feelGoodnight. >>59402609No, this game has always been poorly optimized. There's 0 reason for the menus in this piece of shit ti lag so much. It shouldn't take so long to switch between menus. It shouldn't take so long to load into matches, it shouldn't take so long to load match results; most of the time wasted in this piece of shit game is just waiting on lag. Your dailies should only take like a minute max but it takes longer because of how slow the game runs.
>>59402615>Your dailies should only take like a minute max but it takes longer because of how slow the game runs.And you have to hit 3 confirmation messages to get something that you would never turn down.
>>59402615Trvke. For hard how they tried with slick UI the game is too laggy.
>>59402612if you're willing to spend dust, i can trade you one for some fodder 1*. my alt pulled a couple.
>Random ass piplup in the set just because >Random ass Psyduck just because >No furfrou ex for puppy pile meme deckAtleast legends arceus stuff is in now. I assume next set will be a PLA set.
>new milotic with mega gyaradosoh yeah, this is happening
>>59402609Between this and Champions, I've given up all hope this series will ever have a good mobile game, Pocket and Champions have been such fucking letdowns
>>59402639Hey thanks, that’s nice of you1437216818916073
>>59402658no problem. mareaniebros gotta stick together.
>>59402664True that
>get cucked everytime from my 5 victories in a row because the last deck is always that new mega sableye Fuck that little nigger
>>59402678Mega Sableye is a fucking queer
what can i get for rr melmetal ex?
why on earth would they put Milotic sleep in solo random battles. does dena hate their playerbase
>>59402707>does dena hate their playerbaseOf courseWhy else would they make water sleep?
>>59402697not much, i'm sorry to say. it's an old set card without the popular mon buff or the meta card buff, so it's gonna be hard to get anything good for it.
It's like every B series set has been a "oh you thought we liked you nah here's some metafag retarded bullshit" shoved directly into my face. Not even the solo battles are interesting anymore, you just get fucked for even trying to play a little off meta
when you look at other water sleep cards to pair with milotic it really puts into perspective how overstatted espeon islike this is the same fucking card but for 2 energy lol
wallace is fun :3
>>59402716Sleep scam is easily counterable, what other metafag bullshit are you even encountering in solo battles?
>>59402761how so?
What in the fucking tarnation is this?Also>lolvictini
>get FA Elesa>she's dogshit
>>59402786My two FA Blaine cards still resting at the corner, might as well be on the asylum.
>>59402784Mega Evos in general, I haven't touched the game in 5 months (and I'm a F2Pleb) so all my decks have been getting raped
dark greninja is looking disgusting with the new set.i swapped chingling for munchlax and absol for sableye, it's retarded how fast you can draw all your cards with munchlax and sableye is actually really goddamn dangerous when you have your whole setup online. it peaks at 200 damage with the god hand, which isn't going to happen in every game but it sure does happen in a lot of them.
>>59402813brew?
>>59402718AND it doesn't fucking insta-evolve on turn 1 lmfao.
>>59402815not much of a brew, i just stole the first dark greninja list on limitless and swapped a couple cards kek. there's bound to be a better one.
>>59402784>Easily coutnerableYea bro, just add this 2 point 130 HP brick into your deck to draw first, or this single use trainer who will be at the bottom of your deck.
>>59402824need sableyebut why mars?
>>59402809Being F2P is no excuse to being bad or having bad cards with the amount of packs you get to open on the daily
>>59402494I'm still waiting for porn of Copycat. I'll even take a lora so I could AIsloppa my own...
>>59402829stolen list, simple as. it's there because i was lazy.if you're looking to drop a card mars would probably be the call since you're not item locking them with chingling, but it's done pretty nicely to ward off sabrina in my limited testing. if you ran absol you wouldn't need it, but sableye does fear an untimely sabrina.
>>59402829Because they're bound to knock Munchlax out and you can reset their hand to 2 cards when they do so and potentially put them too far behind to come back as a result. Though if there was any card I wanted to change out, that'd be the first on my list desu. There's not much I'd change it out for though. Maybe the stadium that gives HP to basics so Sableye has a liiiitle more wiigleroom to not get oneshot as easily but without breaking 200 HP it feels a bit pointless. I can definitely see Sableye being the new Absol in terms of splashing into whatever Dark deck as a finisher/wall. But unlike Absol you'll be proned to get Cyrus'd if it doesn't finish the job.
>>59402829Munchlax gives you draw power and the opponent will exploit that with Mimic so Mars is there to blow the opponent's hand away
>>59402837Then what info have I missed in the past 5 months that I need to apply to deckbuilding
>>59402820well to be fair you can search and instant evolve it with wallace since snom is one of the few low hp water basics, but yeah. can't attack if you do that.
You think this could work with something like Mantyke and the Gyarados that discards benched pokemon for damage?
>>59402850I think it'll just be played the same way as HoundstoneNot sure which hits harder though, too lazy to check but Houndstone being non-ex and psychic for plaza repositioning gives H-Zoroark some stiff competition
>struggling big time in Great Ball this season>switch to Chien/Suicune>7 game win streak straight to Ultra Ball
>>59402509>Putting a loli FA and goonbait FA in the same pack was a good ideaThey're both goonbait
>>59402850unfortunately it's just not that good, houndstone pretty much outclasses it in every way. the best thing you can really be doing with either card is playing psychic energy with gourgeist as your discard engine and comfey for status protection, but at that point you really should just be using houndstone since>greavard discards a card and kills babies turn 2>greavard is compatible with plaza unlike zorua>houndstone only takes 2 energy instead of 3>houndstone and greavard can be searched by meloetta who is god tier in a discard deckyou can't do any of that with zoroark, sadly. it's a real shame since i LOVE the pokemon, but it's just another victim of dena not really balancing the game at all.that also reminds me, i should try gourgeist houndstone again with the new cape. those breakpoints are juicy.
lmao I thought nigga was joking with the Milotic EX sleep deck being in the fucking PVE rotation. Then I got that shit with a turn 1 Wallance on feebass what the actual fuck are they doing to this """""Game"""""
At a first glance the big deal is this new cape isn't it? It's a new staple we are talking about.
>>59402809just play magnezone oricorio brothat deck was around 6 months ago so you should have the cards and it still shitstomps the AI
Milotic ex is more of a juggler buff than a sleep oneIf you pair it with Magneton you have an interesting ramp going on you can then use with juggler or elemental switchI don't think it's that good though, it's quite bricky
>>59402809Most megas suck major ass what game are you even playing?Or are you one of those people who complain about the usage of any legendary on showdown even if it's crap like Articuno?
>>59402956>Most megas suck major assi was gonna contest this but honestly yeah we have more unplayable megas than playable ones
>>59402956The game where I build Dialga-Tinkaton or Solgaleo and Altaria EX starts beating my face in with two energy 130 hit nukes. I'm not gonna pretend I'm not shit but being forced to give up my own shitbrews just to win feels like ass
>>59402962well that's because you're using shit cards like dialga and tinkaton brothose cards were bad back in shining revelry dude why would they be good nowanyway you would probably still be able to win with those if you had metal core barrier lmao
>>59402962And here I am making to masterball with a guzzlord deck
>>59402970guzz with deedee is still a really good deckjust ass to play since it makes the game so long
>scrolling through new cards>huh just Piplup? Maybe Steel-type Empoleon is down the list>huh just Growlithe? Maybe Fighting-type H-Arcanine is down the list>reach the endThis feels like a very unfinished set
>>59402981eh, it makes sense to not print puppy pile evolutions since that kinda goes against the point of the deck, shit as it may be. no excuse for psyduck and piplup though, i really don't get it.
>>59402850>3 energiesdamn when I got it I hallucinated it needed 2 in a fit of cope. into the trash it goes
>>59402962Dialga and Tinkaton were never good even back in the day dude
>decide to stubbornly make a new shitbrew to beat milo ex solo>limp to the finish line on turn 18>don't feel fulfilled whatsoeverIt was Oricorio-Iron Thorns-Zeraora btw. I'm so ass
>it's been a month since I opened the game>check the new packAnother month it is.Honestly I'm thinking of just uninstalling the game and be done with it. Maybe I should offer to trade all my cards before they're gone forever.
>>59403024gimme dat fa sabrina
>>59403024got a copycat?
>>59403024Sleep is here to stay, so let that determine your choice.Mega Ray next set, though.Crammed with 2 or maybe even 3 packs worth of cards, so you never pull him. :)
>wping my nigga Wallace day 1nice
>>59403038what you want for it?
>>59402847They should give you a free mega Blaziken deck with some staple cards adjacent that you can use from recent times like copycat, Cyrus etc the usualThere's now stadium cards but the only good one afaik is the psychic one
>>59403024Post your full arts
>>59403039OAK
I can't believe they made a card to counter the exact thing they heavily discourage.
>>59403008Muh patterns suggest the Colorless curse requires one more energy to be balanced from now on, so they'll never be good. Take a look at Ursaring for instance.
>>594030463 energies for 60 is insane, just make it 2 for 40 and add 60
>>59403057It's just that you'll never be able to take adavantge of its effect because nobody runs decks where the active has multiple energy types.
>>59402580Sorry fell asleep, just added you (Meloetta pfp). Is it in JP or EN though? Kinda hoping for EN cos binder autism.
>>59402509I wonder if I can do the opposite. I got the puppy girl, but I literally only care about Elesa.
>>59402857Same for me but with Ultra to master
haha puppy pile go brrrrrrrrr
The next set better have primal kyogre and primal groundon generating water and fire energies for free and completely ruin the metagame forever
>primal shit>mega trash>paradox vomitEt cetera.What the hell happened to cool fucking basic pokemon, why does everything needs to have a gimmick post gen 5
>>59403123>What the hell happened to cool fucking basic pokemongen5 happened and it almost killed the series
>>59403124>last creative game in the series almost killed a multi billion franchisedoubt.jpgbut ok, I'll keep feel natural disgust when I see these ultra zoomer designs
>>59403123Unova started all this with their own revision shit based on gen 1
Go back to bed, Kojo.
You can always count on /vp/ to be contrarian to the point of retardation
>>59403046im lowkey retarded what does this effect actually meanif the opponents active is a psychic do 120 dmg? if the opponents active just has an energy attached do 120 dmg? or are you meant to run this in some stupid fucking psychic multicolor deck
>>59403199It does 120 if the opponent has psychic or if you're retarded enough to run multicolor with a type that has shitty ramp options.
I just can't get more than a 2-win streak in randoms. No matter what deck I try, the AI gets the perfect counter deck and I totally brick.
>>59402327Not fucking much this set, as to be expected. Looks like still a dedicated Galar set (or two), ZA set/ZA trickle in eventually, the last bit of Hisui and whatever else from 5 and 6 trickle. That could all easily be stretched throughout C series, before we even get into gmax or whatever is going on with gen 10..
>>59402324It's weird that they still give Pokémon an ability from the games, and it's just not even close to the same thing
>>59402786>4 out of 9 heads doesn't even outdamage the 2 energy 90 damage day 1 card that I run with flame patch anywaysI'll pass on this flipshit
>>59403238If I want fire coin memes I'll just stick to the pig.
>>59403131in 4 years XY will be exactly in the middle of Pokémon's lifetime, Teraleak emails also revealed Masuda was begging to add fusions to BW and he wanted Mewtwo to be the first one to get one
>>59403238it's tiktok slop, the card only exists for streamers to farm viral shorts of them hitting all 9 heads
>Wailord Milotic A2 VaporeonBehold: Shitty Miraidon
all i got was fa dedenne, i always get screwed over on packs with cards i actually want
anything for my magcargo deck in this pack?
>>59403273elegant cape gives +30 hp to stage 1 evos so maybe that
>>59403131You can doubt all you want the sales of that time tell a different story
>>59403232Dena cucking gen 3 fans pretty hard.
I can't get away from this cunt!
>>59403340dont be mean to goodra
>>59402391Forget using her to bounce your cards. Use her to bounce on your dick.
>>59402838Copycat isn't even a TCG original. She lives in Saffron in the games.
>>59403123Gen 9 and Megas killed this game for me
>these smarmy DeNa cucks actually used a iggly darkrai deck for milotic in missionsimagine my fucking surprise when i get turn 1 god handed with the tri set up and have to double take that my opponent was actually a cpu
Nice fucking game >took away Sneak Peek>added a new "game mode" for grinding and took away resources from pre-existing game modes to press people into playing it >create sleepfaggotry>buff sleepfaggotry>buff sleepfaggotry again I'm deleting this dogshit game. Not just uninstalling, deleting. Fuck this.
Nice update. Did they show off Mega Fug just to bribe people into staying for him?>>59403442Yeah, same. It almost feels like spite from them at this point
Sleep is so heavily counterplayed this season that it drastically underperformed in tournament play. What's your excuse? >waaah waaaaah my deck can't beat itYou built the deck, you know? At some point you have to take responsibility for your own failings.
>>59403476>bro just have PCL and ogerpon in every deck>just don't draw ogerpon first lmao
Could you say that m-Sableye is a good alternative to m-Absol in your Zoroark deck? I forgot his retreat cost though.
>>59403490Statistically - I mean statistically, guys - do you know how poor the chances are of drawing Ogerpon as your only playable Pokemon are? I hate to say it, but it's a skill issue at that point, it really is. It's a skill issue and it's a skill issue in your deckbuilding. People in top level play, in tournament play, they're effortlessly beating sleep decks. Sleep decks are not working out in competitive play. They're more of a noob killer deck. So I hate to say it, but you might just be a noob.
>highroll into a bespoke sleepscam deck 10 times in a row for 30 trade hourglasseswhat the fuck is DeNA's problem
>>59403499The retreat cost is 1. I think it's a good substitute.
>>59403515They're trying to artificially prop their playtime numbers up since one of their most highlighted issues was that people aren't "playing the game" enough. So they're basically holding your hourglasses hostage and saying "either grind enough to win this this many times in a row or say goodbye to a certain percent of your summoning currency allowance every month". It's not technically a situation where they win either way, but they either get you to do what they want or they punish you and make you feel bad for not doing what they want. And they will get people to actually play this just to get their Hourglasses, so mission accomplished.
>>59402908Most people just gave up even trying to get 5 wins in a row because it's so fucking stupid. Their player retention metrics were better when people could leave their phone on auto for an hour with a Venusaur to get 50 points, why would they change that?
>>59403539>Most people just gave up even trying to get 5 wins in a rowjesus christ dude whatyou cannot be this bad at deckbuilding
>>59403530They do this, but then frontload the pack glasses to the first fight of each difficulty for the step-up battles.I guess it should have been obvious that they're aware of how bullshit the random fights can be.
>>59403551but anon, putting all the pack glasses at the first battle is actually a devious 4D chess move by dena to make it so people run out of shop tickets!
at the current rate we are going. when do we expect EoS?
>>59403555Actually, that's also true. I have been getting low on them ever since they changed the singleplayer battles. And everyone on my list who used to like my showcase quitting because the game has become such dogshit.
>>59403556You drastically underestimate the determination and the willpower of the pokémon community if you think that this game will die anytime soon
bring on the sleep buff meta, i love playing with my stupid bug deck. i love ADHD child boosting my stupid bugs. i love still one shotting this serpent bit h even if she has her new cape equipped
>>59403551That doesn't actually change much for most of the obsessed types of people who play this sort of game, because a lot of people will still play it because they have rewards behind them. The even, theoretically, if they didn't, the amount of time played lost from people who would stop after the first mission is more than made up for by how much you have to do to win the streak missions.
>>59403556Because I am only allowed suffering, it will continue until F or G-series, at least.I hope all of A-series gets rotated out at the end of the year when they start C, so I can completely dump this game with peace of mind.
>>59403571Have you tried the new Butterfree yet?
>>59403574Rotation is one of the very few things that actually could just kill this game on the spot, so I think they'll be careful about it unless they've gauged that this playerbase is so pussy that they could get away with it.
>>59403578I feel like they'll have to at some point, simply due to tech debt. The game runs like an N64 title, menus are extremely laggy, and it's only going to get worse with all of the new buttons and packs added to everything.
>>59403556Not gonna happen, it's not particularly expensive to keep up or update compared to all this other crap on the app store both TPC and DeNa have kept up strong for years and years.
>>59403476Tournament play isn't ranked, retard. There's no matchmaking. Everybody knows ranked throws you against your exact counters regardless of how many people are actually playing it. If you counter sleep, you will never encounter a single sleep deck the entire time you go to Masterball.
>>59403599The fact of the matter is, this simply isn't true. This simply isn't true, guys, or else how would anybody make it to Master Ball? You're simply shifting the blame for your failures elsewhere, and that's honestly just kind of sad, going to be honest with you, that's just kind of sad.
>>59403596So much of the art is reused or even just AI-generated now. I can't imagine it takes very long to continue reusing effects, either.
>>59403602That anon is exaggerating, but tournament play IS different from ranked. Tournaments lock you into a single deck and you play a series of matches. It's way easier to cheese out single wins in ranked because you need to go well below a 50% win rate to actually lose progress. Win streak bonuses also make it even easier to climb. Just don't play unfiltered garbage and you'll hit Master Ball with enough games.
>>59403123This started in Gen 3 though.
this sucks so fucking much. all I wish for is just a simple fossil set but knowing DeNa they would mess it up and make them useless like majority EX's that we already have. B series is such a shit show.
>>59401757what they really need to do is pivot to physical cards. if you have a card in pocket they let you order physical copies at like a couple bucks a pop. instantly have a userbase in the billions. and scalpers jonesing for hourglasses.
>>59403651Dena makes shit cards on purpose as pack filler. You're only really meant to use a couple of the designated "good" cards per set, and ignore everything else. Only rarely does a card slip through the cracks and become good later on, like Igglybuff. Notice how uncommon it is for support to be released for cards that already exist?Fossils will never get their own set because 1. Dena hates Fighting and 2. Dena REALLY regrets making Rampardos. 1 is likely the result of 2, but either way they will never make a good fighting set. Lucario was their only shot because it's one of the Big Four.
>>59403599>ranked throws you against your exact countersIf this is true then the other guy I'm playing with got a positive matchup? Explain that retard
>just wanted Elesa or the loli>alt gets Wallace on the second packThe worst part is my autism will not allow me to trade him away without a 2nd copy
>>59403691what level of autism makes you unwilling to move cards off your fucking alt
>>59403691I can't wait for a repeat of last month, where among all of my alts, I didn't see a single Sada until the very last day of the set.
What deck hard counters the bullshit that is solo expert milotic deck?
>>59403735Oricorio + Ogerpon.
>>59403736Can you post the full deck please?
>>59403740No
>>59403744Ass
>>59403771There's only 20 cards per deck, 6 of them are automatically locked-in, and I gave you 4 more. Figure something out, you lazy nigger.
I want to kill whoever thought this fucking pop-up would be a good idea.
It’s that easy, bros. All you gotta do is run sleep scam and not play against the cancerous Milotic deck
RETURN OF HYDRA
Any yes or no on if this pack is really worth pulling onHow Meta are the new pokemon
>>59404009milotic, sableye, dedenne, and munchlax are all very solid cards
>>59404016>sableye, dedenneHow retarded are you Anon?
>>59403824>use recommended deck>concede after bricking>"duhhhhhh! looks like you lost because you're RETARDED!! did you seriously not know that fire type moves are super effective against grass types? here's a 5 second reminder, since you must be pants shittingly retarded to have lost to a fucking computer :)"thank you dena
>>59404009the new caterpie line might unironically be meta, caterpie's ability resolves before being "knocked out" so butterfree hitting for 60 on turn 2 is guaranteed
after playing with it for a while, sableye seems more consistently useful than absol. absol is better in the late game, but sableye lets you do aggressive midgame plays you just can't with absol. taking your second point with absol is often a very bad play where you're just praying they have cyrus in hand, but taking it with sableye tends to put the other player on the back foot since swinging into a helmet sableye means they're now taking 60 damage on their mega, and that puts a lot of cards into kill range.definitely worse into lucario but i haven't seen much of it.
>>59404057>caterpie's ability resolves before being "knocked out"Is that only when it hits exactly 0, or can it dip into a negative number and still evolve? I believe that Garganacl only activated its ability if it had exactly 0 HP.
>>59404057I love how each new version of this line completely power creeps the original.
>>59404065i assume it works as long as metapod will have remaining HP after the evolution, which should always be true. we're presumably talking about sleep scam here, because if it was KO'd by an attack it would just die as that takes place before pokemon checkup.
>>59404071eh, the other one isn't really powercrept by new butterfree since it's a benchwarmer. it was actually powercrept by indeedee.
>>59404065not sure what you mean by garganacl, but yes even if caterpie is "overkilled" it will evolve into a metapod with -40hp
>>59404086garganacl's heal ability can revive it to 10 hp if it's damaged to exactly 0 hp by a status condition or darkrai sleep ping
>lost a game because i didn't know my sableye's retaliation attack would proc my opponent's poison barb on his turnwhoopsgotta use field blower early i guess
>>59404100It's also affected by weakness
finally got them in all languages! super happy about it.
>>59404160Nice.
>>59404160>finallyits been a day
>>59404160it's been 19 hours since the set dropped bro
>>59404160I'll trade you a Rapidash ex FA for the Korean one
>>59404170>>59404179yeah but it took me really long to find french and german, hours!
I need to know the basics of deck building but I can't find any actually good sources online because of shitty Google search. Keep making the same mistakes of running two energy mon to have immediate damage at the cost of doing fucking nothing against tanky cards everyone else has, then when my wincon comes in I'm already down points. Switch to bulky high energy cards and then I'm getting hit for free.
>>59404191post one of your decks so we can laugh it at then go on limitless and just copy one of the top 5 decks
>>59404200Fuck your metafaggotry
>>59404191Don't run 2 energies.Anything more than 2 types of basic is usually overkill.2 Oaks, 2 Pokeballs, and at least 1 Copycat and Cyrus on every deck, no matter what.
>>59404212post decklist pussy
>>59404160Meanwhile I can't get a single fucking Milotic
30 days
>>59402824OINK OINK
>>59404291i'll have you know i spent the better part of a year pulling SR for those gold pokeballs.
>>59403699Not off the alt, I meant trade him off for another card I want on my main
>>59404291>no a single crown rare candy>no gold border/2nd crown munchlax>no 2nd gold border froakie>no FA/RR M-SableyeDo you even paypig bro
>>59404355also the welfare shiny darkrai everybody has instead of the RR
Quagsire is sort of a funny card.
>>59404361tbf RR/FA Darkrai is in one of the most pulled double packsI also forgot about shiny froakie and greninja instead of the welfare 1* and gold border so yeah, far from being a proper paygoy showcase
>>59404191>start with the mandatory 2 oak 2 pokeball 1 copycat 1 cyrus that virtually every deck uses>then pick the centerpiece of your deck (let's say lucario)>lucario is a finisher so you want cheap early attacker basics to do stuff up front while you build lucario (for example hitmontop)>this is already 12 cards>now just add trainer cards to taste like PCL, sabrina, a second copycat, type-specific support like korrina or arena, tools like cape or helmet, x speed if necessary, etc.deckbuilding in this game is far from complex
>>59404368darkrai isnt in the same pack as cyrus it isn't really getting pulled anymore
>>59404368lots of people pull STS but they're always opening palkia for cyrus and mars. darkrai is in dialga so it's pulled a lot less and nobody is buying it with pack points when they could buy cyrus instead. it's not exactly a big flex piece but it's still more of one than the shiny is.
>suffering with solo expert milotic EX deck>put one Ogerpon EX in my executtor deck to block sleep.>go into it, Ogerpon is the first basic i get.>it actually manages to kill one milotic and weaken the second one enough for executor to finish it off.Uh, dunno I was lucky or Ogerpon with a heavy healing support flat out cancels this cancer deck.
>watch the autoplay AI play a rocky helmet on my deino, then field blower it back off, then copycat my still-5-card hand into a 2 card one>those 2 cards are rare candy and hydreigon and that wins me the gamethe AI is fucking rng manipulating bro wtf
this stupid fucking faggot milotic expert deck can suck my fucking cock every single fucking time it draws exodia and i brick
>>59402824How do I take clean pictures of my decks like this? Also grats on the crown 'lax.
>>59404480when editing a deck, click the three dots next to the name field then choose "view all cards in deck."
>from one sleep slop meta with igglybuff darkrai to another with miloticHoping we get heavy anti-sleep support next set
>>59404503We just need an updated arceus EX in the next set
>>59404508i can see mega ray having something like "delta stream: your dragons can't get statused"and then milotic starts running alolan muk
>>59404567>running a 2 retreat cost stage 1 brick in your sleep scam deck that desperately needs bench space for darkrailol?
>>59404508>arceus>next setHAH!
>>59404567That don't block their own Darkrai?
>>59404574>implying any of that somehow matterstheir opening hand will be feebas, darkrai, darkrai, grimer, wallace and they will draw muk on the next turn
>>59404579
>>59404584and they will brick their own darkrais doing that so...?
Fuck you little fucking rat
I just started a random CPU battle on auto, looked back and I was getting raped by a MiloBuffKrai deck, are these devs fucking serious???
Milotic or Altaria?
>3 ten pulls>not even 5 EXsJesus Christ
>>59404661>pull 30 packs>get 4 cards that are 1:12 odds>complainretarded faggot
>get Rainbow Milotic from WP>I don't give a fuck about it, I want a waifucard.>Find someone in pokehub offering a FA Korrina.>They ask if I would rather get a Rainbow Mega Sceptile (which is in my wishlist) instead because they suddenly think than give a FA supporter for a rainbow is "unfair".>I tell then no and they put up the trade>Only for them to cancel it as I was going into the game hub and them saying that they don't feel right trading a mere FA supporter for a rainbow.WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK YOU FUCKING TWAT?! I WOULD TRADE A FUCKING GOLD BORDER FOR A WAIFUCARD IF I COULD! YOU BASICALLY REJECTED ME GIVING YOU ONE MILLION DOLLARS FOR A MERE HAMBURGER! WHY THE FUCK YOU CARE ABOUT A "FAIR TRADE" WHEN YOU ARE THE ONE WINNING?! FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU TO HELL!
>>59404769AND JUST TO SHOW YOU I AM NOT KIDDING, HERE IS THE CHAT LOG! THEY GUY HAS 43 TRADES SO IS NOT EVEN A TROLL! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!
>>59404646My first encounter with that shit, I got 2 Dakrai + Feebass evolved via Wallace on turn fucking 1. Fucking insane.
>>59403067Sorry, just saw this now. Already traded someone else for a Rainbow Sableye.
>>59404769>>59404773>having a melty over some guy not trading you his extremely valuable meta trainer for your miniset rainbow???
How much pack hourglasses you get from the shop again?
>>59404773i dont know man it still seems like you're kidding to me. you're just making this shit up desu
erm, miloticbros? dianciebros? we were supposed to be the new meta, what's happening? why is sableye mogging us?
>>59404769>>59404773I'll trade you the Korrina meltiebro, gimme that RR MiloticHoly Poison: 1950-0777-3413-8661
>>59404801Ok, sent friend invite.
>>59404773At least you didn't get an ESL
It is becoming more and more clear to me that Lisia is probably the 3rd best supporter in the game behind Oak and Cyrus, there must be some random pokemon with a 50 hp basic that I can make way more consistent by building around her. I wanted to build Solgaleo + Vaporeon with her but cosmog is only 60 hp which is pretty lame when you consider how weak it is with one of the lowest base hp stats in the actual game.
>>59404801>>59404813Thanks anon! You made my day after dealing with that retard.
>>59404821>3rd best supporter in the game behind Oak and Cyrusbut thats copycat
>>59404825Good to hear, thanks for the Milotic as well. Been trying to trade it on PokeTrade all fucking day long with no success.
>>59404821copycat mogsanyway there's plenty of good lisia targetsaltaria plays her, magnezone plays her, houndstone plays her, etc
>>59404821if you want to count deck-specific supporters like lisia and rank them based on how good they are in the decks that actually use them, then clemont takes that spot for sure. yes he's better than copycat so don't even start.
new set completed back to gold pokeball grind...
>>594048531* included?
>>59404853same but immersive altaria insteadgood luck on the gold ball, that grind is a bitch
>>59404844This is definitely true, I missed Clemont because I was thinking about new decks.>>59404835>>59404827Cringers. She's a flat +1 always and the 2 cards she draws are always playable.
>>59404874lisia being "always a +1" is extremely deck dependentif you start with a magnemite or draw into one before playing her then she's only draw neutral, and this happens quite often"always playable" is also not true in decks that run many lisia targets like sleepchud altaria
>>59404866yeready for 2* WPs>>59404871ty good luck on cloud dragon
got the zesty lad
Sure is a lot of words just to say it's completely unusable shit.
>>59404936cucked by being a fighting type instead of any of the actually usable typesmany such cases
god i'm so happy two of my favorite pokemon got awesome arts this set
Thought Wallace was pretty much a Water type Quick Grow Extract but the 50HP restriction means only Milotic, Gyarados, Starmie and maybe Snom are the actual usable targets
>>59405064wait for mega starmie. trust the plan.
