Tricky Room EditionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>NewsPokemon Champions is out on mobile devices.Monthly Challenge for June starts on 26th, ends on 29th. Single Battles. Participants gets a Tyranitar.Enter HAJ1MAR1G1FT for a free 100 Quick Coupons and CHAMP10N for a free Machamp.>Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enNew Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPh Previous: >>59402280
Eternal floette perhaps?Ign George
>Kill the giraffe turn 1>They instantly forfeit
TR players are faggots.i said what i said.
Outstalled by the wall
>>59405435Luv ya too anon
>only 30 Pokemon allowed in Home>close to 50 in ChampionsThe end is near.
>>59405433sent
>>59405433sent :)
I am once again asiing for your support
Shit game
>>59405447>>59405453Lads really appreciate the generosity but i think those went to some other volbeats lmao. Mine is still on gts
>>59405484Ign George and posted on the 30th if you guys could find
Is it just me or there aren't many physical attackers around? Like Chomp, Gambit and The Fish are always popular but they aren't the focal points of the team.
>>59405488Until they make a special equivalent of burn (like L:A had) Special is objectively better than physical.
>>59405488The only spread physical move worth using is Rock Slide and E-Quake. Rock Slide very rarely is going to win games by itself due to the low BP, and E-Quake kills whatever you're using too unless it's in the air. Special attackers have no shortage of spread moves and special nukes that fuck over potent threats like Arch.
SO REMEMBER
NO SURRENDER
>>59405502>inb4 more damage and accuracyThat's the contact move bonus, nothing to do with being physical. Just look at rock slide's numbers compared to heat wave's.
>>59405524I stand by what I said.
>>59405463sent :)
>>59405424BOX SPACES ARE KILLING ME!!!!
I really hope for that piece of shit who dodged the ohko twice with his kingambit to get drafted
there an english stream for this SAVOGE shit?
I just realized, can you not use Eviolite strats in Champions?
>>59405580no>>59405571learn our language, pigskin.heres the link if anyone is interested.www.twitch.tv/gutitubo
I just watched like 3 hours of marioipod streaming champions lol
>>59405583>marioipodHaven't heard this name in years wtf, is he still on /vp/?
>Whimsicott used Charm!>Mega Staraptor's attack rose sharply!I expect so much fucking porn of these two it's not even funny.
>>59405502>>59405509It's a shame, I recently got a Scrafty and wanted to use its mega on a team but the double intimidate utility isn't worth it.
>>59405605>>59405509>yes, lets further homogenise the game!
>>59405531payup poorfag
this vivilon shit is pure cancer
>light clay ttarwtf am i seeing?
Someone spoonfeed me on this as I haven't touched VGC since SM/USUM eraWith the 3ds services already dead, how does Pokemon Bank work? Does it have its own connection apart from the Nintendo services?I have a modded 3ds (who doesn't these days?) and apparently I can just install Bank on it, if it works, can I link it with a Home account? I'll probably pay up if it makes it easier to obtain most mons
>>59405718>how does Pokemon Bank workit doesn’t
>>59405718Yes bank has it's own servers and works, you just need HOME premium to receive the mons from bank apparently
>first Champions shiny>MachampMeh.
Kangaskhan is great I should have put him on my hard TR team faster
>>59405718>I have a modded 3ds (who doesn't these days?)non niggers>>59405777gz anon>>59405783si
>>59405707nips are like 4 metas ahead of everyone else.
some people play like bots and I lose because I give them more credit it's insane
>>59405794You can't out think your enemy if they aren't thinking at all.
>>59405794there are actually bots at great ball 1 and bellow
>>59405707>>59405793>look it up>T-Tar doesn't learn either Screen
>>59405802It's for Knock Off
>>59405487sent
>>59405797I'm talking masterball 2 level
>>59405808
>>59405707
>>59405796germans had a similar saying regarding the americans, during ww2
>>59405844USA USA USASWAP OR PREDICT PROTECT? I JUST HIT THE DO DAMAGE BUTTON
>>59405439>arcanineThat's a bot or someone using one of the default teams
>>59405856Don't diss my dogga. I used arcanine like the guide told me and reached masters with it. Ended up changing it for his superior rock version and he's fucking based still
>>59405856arcanine isn't bad at all
>>59405867No, it just got power crept hard by his granddad and black tiger
>>59405867>intimidating fire typeI feel like there's...another pokemon that fills that roleOn the tip of my tongue.
how hard will mega tera z moves hit
>>59405424Gardevoir sissifying and fucking Gallade
I just started and did all the beginner tutorials and stuff to roll as much as I can. I haven't played any matches besides the tutorial ones.I'd almost call this game generous if it wasn't for that horrible box space. I missed that there was a free Raichu in the inbox so I have a dupe lmao
>>59405885>>59405884I will not use the bara tiger.
What makes pyroar good?
>>59405919Perma recruit Zard, Farig, Basc asap.
>>59405919Metagross and Staraptor are safe picks too
Metagross is terrible. Doesn't do anything but break screens
>>59405996It has severe 4 move syndrome as well as bad matchups into many popular mons.
thank you gts tip anon i got my floettite without having to beg on reddit
>>59405809Ign George anon here. Someone here keeps sniping it for some reason. My volbeat is still here. Damn lol
>>59406045it could just be someone pretending to send it
I'm so happy this game is failing. Give us a proper Stadium game next time.
Just started on Sunday, and I gotta say, Ultra Ball 1 was actually pretty hard for me only using those recruit mons. I imagine Master Ball tier will be full of transfered mon teams (Ultra Ball 1 already kinda was) so I'm just going to fuck off with my barely achieved Master Ball rank lmao.
>>59406081Isn't the CCG just bigger than the games in general
>>59406081They've been fumbling TCGP tooIt was comfortably #1 for a good while and they keep doing nothing with it
>>59406085It's competing with Pokemon Shuffle lmao.
>>59405925I never said you had to, just stating that it's mostly arcanine but better. I wouldn't use anything I actively hate floette, either.
>>59406092Honestly the difference is huge considering all those other games everyone starts from 0. Champions is for competitive so you can be, as a fresh nobody that played Pokemon for the first time, thrown against someone who transfered all their shit from S/V.
>>59406092Pokémon Duel, my beloved...
>>59406082As long as you can get the Pokemon you need from Ranch you're on equal footing with HOME usersHOME just means they save up on VP and have more Pokemon space
>>59406110I burned through all my tickets and I'm still missing a lot of shit. I do have solid options, but I also keep seeing shit I don't have. Ceruledge, Mega Staraptor, Mega Metagross, Mega Delphox, Mega Greninja, are some of the few I remember.
Champions simply feels bare bones and it was always dangerous to disconnect VGC from the main series games unless they're going to include a Champions widget within the main games going forward.Frankly I think it's just a retirement home for competitive Pokemon. Some of the higher ups clearly feel the competitive-shiny hunting-campaign formula isn't printing the money it should.Those same faggots are also desperate to have some other succesful IP under their umbrella and would probably develop exclusively for mobile platforms if they could.
>>59406108Competitive battling is intrinsically so stupidly convoluted that they needed to do much more than just port an inferior S/V UI to fix it. No knowledge of stats and abilities of your opponent's Pokemon means you're either constantly doing trial and error or spending hours on external websites or guides before you can even start. That's also assuming you even know the basics.
>>59406034What's the tip, im a poorfag on free tier on both home and go. Which mons are the best to snipe? I only ever see nips or chinks looking for latin america mons.
>>59406123The problem is their solutions for the battle system have only been worse so Champions replacing the main battle system will just make WiWa and other future titles worse.
>>59406132>WiWaFuck outta here.
>>59406134gottem
>>59406130Yeah the tip is to just snipe listings that ask for a regular Floette, I hit a shiny Palkia and it traded for Floette. Most of the listings I saw were asking for Latin American Urshifu and shit like that. If you know someone who can help you, there's discords that generate Pokemon for you for free on the Switch games/Sword and Moon. You could generate a shiny charizard or something and trade that for a Floette as well.
Champions is way less jewish than the other games so it doesn't impress me that it doesn't make as much money.
>>59406118Mega gren is shit
>>59405424Could I have a Basculegion? It's Aether, thank you!
>>59406223you should specify gender
>>59406188It would be more jewish if it could get away with it but they have to be lenient since nobody is playing even currently.
>>59406223got a male for ya, sent
>hush hush now anon, soon garchomp will be nothing but a bad dream
>>59406235Dunno if he's good but he looks fucking stupid, and not in a fun way like my boy mrRime
>>59406235>Garchomp is fasterWhat prevents Garchomp from just outspeeding and one-shotting him?
>>59406247ice shard
>>59406081Champions isn't for the wider public, it won't blow up like Go or even TCGPocket among normalfaggots
>>59406254Is Mamoswine not strong enough to do that right now?
How doable is genning in a 3DS and moving up shiny Pelippers for trade fodder? Mine had CFW.>>59406226Sorry, a male one.>>59406233It's still up for trade?
>>59406271Life orb(especially) Adamant +32 will for sure KO most Chomps with ice shard.As the Lycanroc dusk enjoyers will attest though, just because you have a 4x priority KO doesn't mean you get to capitalize on it.
I just lot a game because shillzard hit a crit on my +2 staraptor and one shot it. I think it's enough for today
>>59406276as long as you have PREMIUM home
I tried hydrapple against a rain team and it surprised me
Hey. Can the floette from pokemon go be put into champions?Or does it have to be the special legends za one?
any ideas for good partners for a dual mega raichu-Y and mega scovillain team? I think they look cool. Might fit into a support mega role to complement a setup sweeper style
>>59406325pokeaimmd ass title
>>59406276It's faster to just trade with a discord bot in SV. The Bank -> Home process takes forever.
>>59406260Pokemon sure wasn't hoping for that. Even I didn't expect it to perform worse than Shuffle.
>>59406365competitive pokemon isn't appealing to most people so I'm more surprised it hit 10m downloads this quickly
I want to try sun with zard Y, I'll name it Philadelphia cause it's always sunnynow with that in mind, male or female?
>>59406368charizard is a boy.
>>59406325>Swift Swim Swampert does one single Ice Punch
Looking for a female primarina, I only got male ones from the recruit.Not shiny, please.
>>59406374hydrapple actually lives that handily and swamp definitely doesnt survive grass stab
>try to get a Cofagrigus>no one is asking for anything sensible in exchange, it's all Eternal Floettes>the few that do ask for something normal like a Gengar are asking for specific languages so I can't breed them myself, I have to trade for them>all the Gengars up for trade are only asking for Eternal Floettes, and so onThis trade ecosystem sucks.Would anyone be so kind as to donate a non-shiny male Cofagrigus? Dusk ball if you're genning it, but it's not a big deal otherwise.
Why I shouldn't play singles?That's what I played in smogon 8 years ago
>>59406381sent
>>59406392Then you can't click protect
>>59406382I wouldn't call that "handily" and the opponent's other mon is going to outspeed you as well, so it could finish the job.
>>59406389literally EVERYONE is asking for eternal Floette or Archaludon it's actually impossible to trade anything
How?
>>59406440the i is in some subhuman language it looks like
>Typhlosion and Mega Delphox with Copycat for double EruptionIt's working out pretty well so far.
>>59406456Do you have tsareena or the giraffe for sucker punch?
>>59406462Haven't run into any Sucker Punch users.Also the strat requires both Delphox and Typhlosion to be on the field, so...
>>59406392Because singles is fun and Nintendo hates fun.
>>59406462sucker punch fails on copycat, no? its a status move not an attack
>>59406440based
>Supercell Slam a Charizard with my Luxray>he Protects and I take 50% of crash damage>"thats fine I will just kill him next turn">Supercell Slam again>he Protects again>it works
>>59406441I wouldn't consider Spanish (assuming it's a spaniard grapheme) any more subhuman than English
>>59406125>either constantly doing trial and error or spending hours on external websites or guides before you can even start.I think this is why VGC and competitive Pokemon in general has such a low uptake. The barrier to entry seems small but in reality is massive. I know there are other comp games that use trial, error, external websites and tools too but I cannot think of one that goes to the extent Pokemon does.
I CANT STAND THIS FUCKING SHIT ANYMOREHITS LIKE A FUCKING TRUCKFUCKS OVER DARKFUCKS OVER DRAGONFUCKS OVER BRUCE LEE TYPESTOTAL TROON DEATH
>>59406515>Sneasler used dire claw
>>59406125>what is learningcrazy concept anon, might be good for you to try it, eventually.
So... where are the top teams from the june event?
>>59406517Sneasler (32 Atk ) vs.Sylveon (9 HP / 22 Def )Move:Dire ClawDamage:152 - 182 (84.9% - 101.6%)Chance to KO:12.5% chance to OHKOdoesn’t work anon, i hyper voice in returnget fucked
Archaludon is bullshit.>fast>bulky>gets bulkier every time you touch it>only weak to two types>hits hard in general>has a 130 BP move that gives a stat boost and executes in one turn as long as it's rainingWhat fucking shortcomings does it have?
>>59406532>fastArch is not fast.
>>59406389Please, I need his bulk.
>>59406532It's not fast, but I agree, I fucking despise this ugly pos Bridge Dragon more than any Pokemon ever.
>>59406534>>5940654585 base speed is faster than 60% of the pokemon in Champions.
Up until now I thought fairy type mons were weak to fire...
>>59406558
Do you get more slots if you reach champions?
>>59406575No, just Master.
>>59406555Being less slow than others doesn't make you fast.
>>59406581How fast is fast?
It's crazy how many games I win just because people keep using priority moves against armor tail even after the first one fails
>>59406583Base 100 is the minimum as of right now to be considered anywhere remotely "fast". That's very quickly going to be considered slow though as mons are added in and the speed tiers start to get really fucking stupid. Personally, you're either base 110 at least or you're a slowbie.
What's your poke bad habit? I keep forgetting to use protect on obvious Fake Outs, I stopped using priority when farig or tsareena is on the field and I am sorta improving in using Protect on incoming Fake Outs, I just see easy BD set up for azumarill and my mind goes brr and then their stupid incineroar uses Fake Out
>>59406613I don't know when people will protect so I never play around it
>>59406613Seeing an Incin + Garchomp lead against my Megagross and Talonflame lead. I always think they’ll double into Metagross with Fake Out + Stomping Tantrum so I Protect, but they always go into Talonflame with Fake Out + Rock Slide.
I want to try out her mega thanks
>>59406613I concede turn 1
>>59406628sorry i already gived to another anon <= written in shakespearean english
>>59405718yeah bank still works and it's free now, that being said you need the premium Home sub to transfer mons from Bank (you don't need a switch though), no account linking required if you still have your 3DS, just download the Bank .cia + 1.5 update + Poke Transporter if you want to move BW/BW2 mons and follow the instructions
>>59406633>>59406628sent, delphox is male tho
>>59406389Ah shit, I didn't read your post completely. It's a legit Cofag though.
>>59406627Stops speed control.They'll do that everytime, you need to protect T1, maybe even double protect. That lead has a lot of hate for Metagross though, so you will want to swap.
>>59406526I run 17hp and 32 def to guarantee survive Adamant 32 dire claw.
>>59406498Use wild charge like a non-maniac.
>>59406653>9% accuracyno thanks
>>59406515It literally only ever uses fairy coverage, i'd rec scizor but a lot of players use it along side a fire type in which case Empoleon might be a sleeper pick for dealing with it
>>59406630I did this once when I forgot to put a mega stone on raichu, I also once forfeited a clear victory with my twitchy hands cause I forgot I used protect on a super effective move
>>59406613Letting my tailwind user get Encore'd because I don't want whatever I switch into getting hurt too badly early in.
>>59406637Natu is still there, could you please try again with the updated req
>>59406686I had to write down not to use set up moves when whim is out unless i have my Taunt user out
does the game running like shit not concern the devs?this fucking gacha game eats battery on the switch 2 faster than the latest resident evil...
>>59406639Thank you!
>>59406693It is annoying, also mega evo animations take waaay too long, even had games where I didn't mega Lopunny despite them having an incineroar to make it immune to Intimidate with Scrappy
>>59406693>>59406704One of the advantages Showdown has over this is the ability to skip over all the animations and boil the game down to just inputting choices.While I appreciate that the devs made animations for every move, it gets a little old watching them by the 1000th time.
>>59406669You deserve it then.
What would be a solid team to run for Pikachu? I know RaichuX yields the best results for it by letting the Simpsons Rat hit for insane numbers with Electric Terrain, and that Grimmsnarl is the most reliable way to give them a semblance of Bulk.
One potential pimpoleon please>>59406637I hadn't received either, did you trade someone else? Pokemon home name is NV
>>59406713Tailwind setter? Trick Room in the back to reverse matchup against hard TW with faster mons like chomp and m staraptor? Helping Hand/Imprison/Trick Room/Attacking move could be a good teammate, also stops priority
>>59406738Meant Farigaraf obviously
>>59406613I am prone to getting tilted, but deluding myself that im not. That leads me to pacing back and forth justifying why i lost when its pretty obvious im just still fuming from three games ago when i missed a critical move.
>>59406734Sent.
Nintendo needs to add a 5th skill slot
Redeposited so it gets sent to the top. Go Volbeat from ign George anon. Thanks for any help.Also how good is Clefable? Just caught one in Go
>skill slot
>>59406740You mean Faragarif
>>59406754Ty
>tfw outscumbagging toxapex and coil milotic with scumbreon
>>59406649Just had another game against that lead. Opponent did the same thing they always do, but Megagross killed chomp with one Ice Punch. They brought the fish, failed to kill Megagross with Last Respects into its Protect, Talon got Tailwind up and after their Incin swapped to Staraptor they forfeited. But I usually lead those two because teams with Incin + Garchomp always tend to have their other 4 mons be weak to Megagross or on the off chance it’s TR can be taunted by Talon.
>>59406705>While I appreciate that the devs made animations for every movenot really, some are still really lazy where the pokemon just floats over and squishes them and shit. stadium and colosseum still mog overall, even though champions has some really good looking moves that look like they took effort. there are a lot of lazy ones honestly.
I replaced RotomW with Tyranitar in case of Zard Y. Not yet sure with his moveset, havent ran him yet. I run thunder fang on Chomp in case I bring him out and opp goes with milotic, plus it's a wide guard bypass and people always expect Chomp to run rock slide. I suppose I am in trouble with hawlucha snorlax entrainment. So I may need a faster electric like Jolteon? Or is there a better way to immediately deal with Lax?With the core team, I just beat a guy with a Farigiraf imprisoning mine and prevented healing, but he made some serious mistakes and got overconfident when I switched in Venusaur, targeting psychic noise on grimm instead of going full blast on my switch-in. Currently on an 8 W streak but not sure how long this will go. Im just playing ranked MB4 once or twice a day now.
>Goober by the only faggot running focus sash basc
>>59406759Technically we kinda sorta get that with Z Moves. D/Gmax also gives 4 new moves.
I've started running Eelektross + Trick Room Cofagrigus as my dedicated "fuck your Swampert and Pelipper lead" duo.
>>59406830I wish we had more slots. I cant recruit any more mons to experiment. Home isnt an option either, we get 30 pitiful slots which is stupid.
For the love of god. More team space....
what was that niche thing about some pokemon that has prankster (I think, not sure) and can learn trick room and make it -6 priority instead of -7 and why is it good? I'm trying to explain it to my friend but he thinks it's pointless but I don't even remember what pokemon it was or what exactly the circumstances for it are so I don't even understand it myself.
>he still doesn't have 50 spacesCant be me
Torkoal is just plebian mega camerupt, it can at least set sun for it but can't do shi to ceruledge unless it becomes weak to water types by forgoing solarbeam
>>59406838You can "store" more teams by sharing them as replica teams and saving the codes.Then you can re-enter your own codes whenever you want to re-create those teams.Obviously you still need to have all the mons in your box, but it's an easy way to store more than 3 team combinations at a time.
>>59406836>Home isnt an option either, we get 30 pitiful slots which is stupidAt least Premium Home is way cheaper than Premium Champions. Champions costs $50/year, Home is only $15/year.If you only want to experiment for a month, you can pay $3 and then cancel the membership immediately to have 6k storage slots in Home for the next month.
>>59406840Im 46/50. 4 more decent pulls or I transfer a few Home mons and I'm full up.
if they would just add options to buy permanent slots I would rather do that than a fucking subscription. it's just annoying and I hate paying for something like that over and over that I don't keep.
>>59406846Either of those subs only make sense to me if I get a raise. I havent gotten a raise or promotion in 4 years and I still can't find a J3 to help with growing bills and any hope for savings. Fml
>>59406841I got wrecked by some trick room team using both. I forget what his suicide lead and trick room setter. He just spammed double eruption.
>pelipper hits hurticane in the sunAnd no I'm not running a zard team
>>59406839nvm it's whimsicott. I thought it was something else because my friend was like "whimsicott can't learn trick room" but it can. it's simply just for basically guaranteed trick room.
The rain players are evolving
>swap sands for grass knot>phox floette still winningwhat say you now
>>59406859What's the set?
>>59406839>>59406857Its a joke, incase you didnt get it. Yes whims gets trick room, but effectively anything which is -1 prio and below is just the same speed bracket 99% of the time. There isnt a case where you want it -6 vs -7 unless the opponent roars you, and noone actually roars a whimsicott out since most of the time it just benefits them post tailwind
>>59406861They're using mega mawile behind screens
>>59406867So Megawile instead of Megapert? And Grimm, Arch, and Peli/Frog?
>>59406871Yeah that's what I faced, I never bring ceruledge to rain games which made it difficult to deal with
>>59406877Interesting. Megawile set was sucker punch, play rough, protect, and iron head i reckon? It's a good case for running fire or ground move coverage, preferably spatk because of arch at the back.
To avoid the dreaded Focus Sash basculegion
>>59406863ok thank you for explaining. yeah we were talking about it because we're both running roar and I remembered something about that being a thing related to roar.
>flinched>flinched>flinchedstop please
>>59406863to be honest I still don't really get it but you're basically saying it's some really obscure shit that won't ever happen unless they for some reason prepared to be roared? we were also talking about singles since we both already got to masters in doubles and now we're trying to get to masters in singles for fun.
>>59406907never mind I think I get it. like I was saying before it's guaranteed trick room for whimsicott but usually people don't even run trick room on whimsicott and they usually don't have to worry about roar. but if there's ever that one match where someone tries to roar whimsicott before it uses trick room then whimsicott will still get it off... i think that's right?
>>59406838Be glad this game is failing so their stupid box monetization model won't be profitable by their standards.
>>59406503This is a game in-which stat optimization is essential to winning while not even Speed, the easiest stat to min-max, is not available in the actual game and neither are abilities. If you don't have Sneasler yourself it will take a non-experienced player a very long time to figure out that it outsped you this time and not last time because you activated Unburden.>>59406521If the game puts 0 effort into making the game intuitive maybe it's actually dogshit and only cocksuckers like you defend it. I've been playing since online battling was introduced in DPP and it's always been horrendous at an official level.
>>59406914>like I was saying before it's guaranteed trick room for whimsicottNo. The Trick Room will have -6 priority.Everyone else will move before Whimsicott unless the opponent used Roar, which also has -6 priority and so will move after Whimsicott if Whimsicott's speed is higher.But in literally all other circumstances, everyone else moves first and thus can Taunt/Encore/Embargo/kill Whimsicott before it uses Trick Room.That's not a guaranteed Trick Room.>if there's ever that one match where someone tries to roar whimsicott before it uses trick room then whimsicott will still get it offCorrect, if the Whimsicott has higher speed than the mon using Roar.
>>59406923ok so like jolteon or aerodactyle can learn roar and could outspeed whimsicott trick room. thanks I think I finally get this whole weird retarded shit.
>>59406920>If the game puts 0 effort into making the game intuitiveI do think it's interesting and really fun because it does tell you what went wrong with messages like "you activated this" when you do something on certain pokemon that you shouldn't have done and then you learn about that and there's so much you never know what the right move is until you know
>>59406934>you never know what the right move is until you knowwhich is evolution. pokemon is like its own weird ecosystem.
>>59406938If Nintendo fans weren't the type of people to glaze literal cardboard then maybe Pokemon as a franchise could actually evolve instead of having fans have to do all the work for them.
So /vp/, how many times have you lost your promotion to Master Ball match this season?
>>59406943For me it's Master 4 to Master 3. I was in 3 but I think it's over now. I'm getting more losses than victories.
>>59406943I climbed to Ultra 2 in the last 2 seasons then put it off until the end of the month but never bothered to progress
>>59406943none I changed my team then kept going on pretty big streaks straight to masterball. I was stuck in ultraball for a few days though before that.
>>59406949but I mean lower ultra not like the pic where it's almost out of ultra. I was stuck in 1-2 then 3 for a few days I mean. but after I made a new team that was actually good (actually tried to make quite a few before this one that actually was good) then I went on high streaks that only got broken once or twice and it felt like I pretty much went straight to master ball.
>>59406943None. Getting out of the lower Ultras was harder than the final push to M4.
>>59406943Season MA-2 was a bastard, but I made it through to MB. I had way less trouble this season probably because we have new mobile players, but also some team adjustments I made.
>>59406943Tilted from 2 to 4 with 1590 points once when I was playing frustrated, just climbed back to 3
>>59406943Only once, I'm starting to feel like it's mandatory.
Who's the Mon that became one of your favorites because of Champions? For me, it's Mega Crabominable.
>>59406943I went 15-1 in my run from to Master Ball in M-3. Only loss was my second match in a Raichu Y matchup check.
>>59406986I guess Sceptile. In all honesty Champions just taught me to hate the mons I already hated more.
>>59406986Tsareena.Had no reason to use it in SV and I liked it so much I went and bred a pentaperfect one in SwSh just to transfer into Champions.
Of those who didn't play any doubles in Gen 6 or 7, which Mega have you come to despise?
>>59406996>bred nearly perfect IVs just to transfer it into the one game where IVs don't matter
>>59405424Arboliva whenCrystalization WHEN
>>59406986Scizor since I always used Metagross instead whenever both were available
How should they balance Dynamax when it eventually gets added?
>>59407010Nerf G-Max Wildfire's (also Vine Lash and Cannonade, I guess) damage over time by at least half.
Got so many Pokemon with foreign names from GTS my team's starting to look like a modern football team
>>59407010Megas disabled for that regulation
>>59406289Lmao good fuck M-Staraptor
I keep forgetting dark types are immune to Prankster moves. I just keep thinking it's just Incin, Grimm and Sableye. Wtf...
>>59406986Champions has redeemed a lot of mons, but it's really damaged the rep of some fan favorites as well.That said... which mon that you thought used to be ok/decent/good/great/one of your favorites but is now absolute trash because of Champions? For me, it's not-so-Metagross, mega included.
>>59406999>the one game where IVs don't matterHonestly one thing I really appreciate about Champions. IVs were always a shit concept and added an unwelcome and tedious complexity. Ain't nobody got time for that shit. Even EV training used to be ass. I know Pkhex exists but not everyone has a hacked Switch.
>>59407010they should actually remove megas, never add dynamax, remove all pokemon after gen 2 and add all pokemon from gen 1-2. and then yeah you have the perfect game aka pokemon stadium 1-2 online with doubles. then it will be perfect for a while besides gay little retards bitching because they started with gen 3 or whatever because they were born too late and are faggots, so what you do at that point is slowly add in like 1 pokemon per 3 months that is one of the best pokemon from gen 3. then skip a ton of pokemon from gen 3 (only pick the best of the best ones to be added from gen 3) then once you have all the good ones from gen 3 which is about 5 pokemon (not gardevoir) then you move on to the next gen which is gen 4. so then you pick about 2-3 pokemon from gen 4 because it was mostly shit, then move on to gen 5 which had maybe 1-2 good pokemon, then at gen 6 you stop and do not add any pokemon from gen 6 or beyond and tell everyone that likes gen 6 and beyond to go fuck themselves and literally die.
>normie friends are too retarded to figure out roomshow
Someone has the EVs from this fag?
>>59407034boy i sure wonder what evs he had for those pokemon i can't figure it out myself. but if you use incineroar, sylveon, or fagarif you should just kill yourself even if it means you would win every single time. I would rather fucking kill myself than use that gay as fuck shit.
He found his anti TR formula. Color me impressed. Too bad it was the one match I didn't run Chomp or Tyranitar (went Hippowdon for an experiment). I was too worried about Mawile (which he didnt go with, he went Drampa for the weather control) and his scarf Basc. His aerodactyl plus a farigiraf on the side was his TR block.Had I been better prepared and ran Chomp, Tyranitar, Farigiraf, and Mega Venusaur, this would have been winnable.
>>59407038get out of casual you fucking retard
>>59407037it throws me off since it doesn't seem like a TR team :(
>>59407042But im done tryharding. Im already on MB4 for both singles and doubles
>>59407044>"done tryharding">running chomp, giraffe, and grim
>>59407044yeah so there's no point playing retards who play casual. just test your shit in a real match since you can't derank out of masters so any practice in casual is bad practice.
so true... when you hit the private battle
>>59407026Why is Megagross not good for you now? Been using him as my team’s back-up mega but I still use him every 3rd or 4th game and sometimes bring him just as base to throw-off people who like spamming intimidate, parting shot, etc.
>>59407045It's not tryharding if it's a casual match retard. I'm also testing other comps in casual but i only have 46 mons so tf are you expecting. There are some fun comps in casual, reminds me of GB and UB4 and 3.>>59407046This was a fun match tho. And i just run 1 ranked match a day for the dailies. Yeah im good
>>59407050>This was a fun match tho. And i just run 1 ranked match a day for the dailies. Yeah im goodok good for you are you a woman or something
>>59407051>a woman or somethingI could be if you want me to, hun
>>59407026Megagross is still good. In fact it now has Psychic Fang to deal with all Shield shenanigans
>>59407048what do you run him with. he gets killed real quick by any weather team, dick room team, or tailwind spammers
>>59407052yeah that's what I thought
So, I actually tried the Skill Swap Malamar/Mega Scrafty. It's not the worst thing in the world, cannot handle fairys though. Malamar's ability to reset its partners weather came in clutch at one point.
>>59407055that's the problem. you see a metagross the other guy just won't run his dedicated shield spammer, or worse just put him in the back till he kills your metagross
>>59407058You sound like a closeted power bottom. Come over here hun and let me rail you ;-)
>>59407064you sound like a tranny shitter groomer who just wants to let people heckin enjoy retarded shit
>>59407057Pic has been slightly updated since I took it but this is the gist of it. I cannot decide on whether to stick with Bullet Punch or Iron Head (I will admit Metagross still suffers from good old 4-slot-moveset syndrome), but Protect, Psychic Fangs and Ice Punch have been putting in work. EV spread for him is mainly so that if he’ll be fast under tailwind and fast without it when he Megas, and the HP is just enough to let him live against most attacks that would otherwise kill him from full HP.
>>59407066>incoherent buzzword babbleYeah, you're a child. Underage b8
>>59407067i guess the problem here is whether you find faster Pokemon annoying or Priority blockers like armor tail Farigiraf more annoying. So if former, bullet punch and for the latter would be better off going Meteor Mash.
>>59407072cant follow a conversation or context to determine why I called you a tranny shitter groomer like a bot but that makes sense since you'd have to be retarded to be a tranny shitter groomer bot who plays casual matches and to say everything you said in your posts
>59407079Underage b&. Cope and seethe, kiddo. That was your last (You)
>>59407081go back to getting beaten in casuals matches HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Can someone spare a ZA Delphox? I rolled a shiny from the recruitment and I'd love to try her mega
>>59407115I thought you could just buy the Kalos starters mega stones in the shop now?
>>59407087nta but everyone here goes on lose streaks and makes the occasional blunder so not sure what this is trying to prove. post elo and yea you need to be 18 to post here
>>59407116Turns out you can.
>>59407115just buy from shop anon it's 2k vp iirc
>>59407119and yeah I'm a shitter plus gay
>>59407119You actually are that anon (unless there are two big gays in this general?), but the reason we are shitting on you is because you are sweating in casual while tryharding.Post hand so I can laugh.
>>59407144whatever makes you sleep at night anon
Is there gonna be a new patch when the season ends or not yet
>>59407159they might add more z megas so yea. and who knows what other nerfs they come up with
I'm actually surprised they didn't lock more megas behind Z-A. Maybe they don't want to scare off the mobile players
>>59407157gay post
>>59407167what's the statistics of the average Champions player? my gut tells me most are on mobile and don't even have the more recent main series games
>>59407177Mobile players will definitely be more than Switch owners. Like, we just hit a 10M download mark just recently?
>https://x.com/i/status/2071962957219819872 KEKAROOOO
>>59407201humiliation ritual
>>59407201toiletdilebros...
>>59407201>give it double edge dragonize>you still click ice punch You have yourself to blame
>>59407059Can you post team? I'm still trying to find an use for the fucking squidCan't believe how bad the mega stats are man, especially when staraptor released right next to it
>>59407201Mega>32+ Atk Feraligatr-Mega Ice Punch vs. 32 HP / 26+ Def Garchomp: 172-204 (80 - 94.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKOVS regular:>32+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Ice Punch vs. 32 HP / 26+ Def Garchomp: 218-260 (101.3 - 120.9%) -- guaranteed OHKOAIEEEEE
>>59407050running tryhard TR in casual is almost the faggiest and most detestable thing you can do
>>59407256>y-you're supposed to play the game the way i want you to!!Trick room, metamons and casual matches really make retards with 3rd grade vocabularies lose their minds. I should post this type of stuff more often so you fags keep seething kek
>>59407227Can't be bothered to take a picture, but generally it's:MalamarSassyDefensive EVs-Trick Room-Skill Swap-Foul Play-ProtectMega ScraftyAdamantMax Attack/Health-Fake Out-Close Combat-Knock Off-ProtectGeneral strategy is Fake Out/Trick Room set up with the Malamar being slower than M-Scrafty so it can Skill Swap first so it can CC turn 2. If the opponent has a Fairy-type or a special flying type, probably don't even bother.Other team members are up to you, mine are:Metal Powder Scizor (fuck you, Sylveon)Charcoal TorkoalChoice Scarf Typhlosion (Eruptions at all speeds baybee)A-Ninetales
>>59407260whatever you say you are par with an AI
>>59405707What's this?
>>59407268whimsicott's pussy
>>59407254Jesus christ lmao
>>59407262typing all that shit out had to take longer than posting a screenshot
>>59407279Yeah, but I would have to get up, turn on the switch, etc. I assure you typing it out had less moving parts involved.
>>59407283damn did you have a long day or are you dying or something?
>>59407262Thanks man. One more question, regular thyp or the ghost version?
>>59407305I use regular just for the Flash Fire to deter opponent Eruptions, though the Ghost one would give you Shadow Ball for extra coverage so it's really up to you.
>5 days left for this seasonDamn I need to grind to 50 before it ends
>>59407034wooow thats one crazy original team!!can't eait for his video where he breaks it all down.SUBSCRIBED!!
>>59407266an AI just flew over my house
>>59407268Coba berry, halves super-effective flying damage
Give him Fishious Rend
>>59407357doesnt have enough teeth to make a good bite
>another season where I will end at masterball3Maybe next time MB2
>>59407357I'll give that stupid thing Slow Start.
>>59406852Anon you got to negotiate for raises and promotions prior to actually working for the job (signing the contract). If you don't your employer isn't obligated to increase your pay at all. You want to control your own pay so you state you expect a pay increase of whatever amount you want annually in writing on the contract because people's words mean nothing in negotiations. Since it seems you didn't do that you can for lack of a better term complain/argue to HR that you require more money to do your job. Do not go to your supervisor/manager to do this their job is to get you to do work nothing else so they don't care about your pay. When talking to HR DO NOT EVER say you can't do your job that will make you sound incompetent and likely lead to repercussions or dismissal(fired). When talking to them about pay you'll need to frame it around for you to efficiently do your job a pay increase is needed for you to continue.Overall, since you haven't gotten a pay increase at all it means it is a dead end job and you need to jump ship as soon as possible. Next job you have to demand the promotions in the beginning otherwise don't expect to get paid anymore past the initial starting salary you argued for. Final note, reiterating again ensure this is written on the contract don't accept head nods, sures, handshakes, or etc. as confirmations of your negotiation for pay because if it isn't written down it don't count. So if your pen hits the paper and what you want isn't there the only thing legally binding is what is written down. >When negotiating pay be sure to ask for enough money to pay for your life. Such as: Rent, subscriptions, food bills, insurance, or other wants/need. Just don't tell them what the high salary required for you to work is for other than you require such payment to work for them. What the high salary is used for is none of their business.>TL:DR Doubt any one will read this but if you do hope this info helps cause employers are bastards.
>>59407445>complain/argue to HRlmao
>What move do you wish is brought back but was removed from the game altogether?I really wish for the move pursuit to be brought back. I know it is unlikely since it was thought to be a centralizing move that punished the whole concept of pivoting but nowadays people are free to swap without punishment which is annoying. If it did come back I'd even accept a limited distribution on particular mons like dog/feline type mons getting it. The other move I'd want to return is Return(move) since it was integral to many physical -ate ability mons and physical Normal types. Finally I'd wish for the return of the move Powder but with a larger distribution to Mushroom and all butterfly/moth type pokemon. Powder was such a niche move but it was a surprise attack that would disable the first fire move used that turn. It'd be useful to protect other fire weakened pokemon by giving a psuedo-fire immunity for the turn.
>>59407465>but nowadays people are free to swap without punishment which is annoying.run stealth rocks/spikes.people seem to forget those things are still around
>>59407470I feel that SR and spikes aren't that impactful in doubles as they are in singles. But SR can be useful against teams that are weak to rocks putting them closer to kill range by removing a quarter/half their health. The only issue is when is the best time to use it? Using games I've played against opponents who used a turn to set up any traps they typically got blown out if I happened to call their strategy and sent out a sweeper holding momentum for most of the game. Example: >Opponent throws out Hippowdon and me Espathra (speed boost).>Turn 1:Go for Lumina charge dropping their SpD sharply and they use stealth rock.>Turn 2:I calm mind and they use yawn.>Turn 3:Baton pass into Scovillain they use protect. I gain a boost from moody dropping my Def but sharply increasing SpA. I now have 3 stage boost to SpA, 2 stage boost to Spe and 1 stage boost to SpD.Turn 4+: I sweep due to them allowing me to gain +2 Spe off my ability especially by them wasting a turn to set stealth rocks. Of course it wouldn't have hurt him as badly had he been running roar in this example but him using stealth rocks over a more impactful move costed him the game.
>>59407465You already took my answer. Putting aside how practical it was for normal types, It was just a good move in general for the main game for when you didn't have anything else to put on a physical mon.
>>59407507Return was such a great no drawback physical move overall with 102 BP when maxed but more when used by Normal types or -ate abilities by gaining both stab and boost from the -ate ability. I hope we see it brought back in some form because double edge/body slam isn't worth it on the pokemon that relied on return for consistent damage output.
Pls and thx!
>>59405424AAAAAAAA!!!! THIS GAMES NEEDS TO DIE SO WE CAN GET A NEW GACHA WITH MORE SPACE
>>59407521sent :)
>>59407532Thanks! :)
I just need this one, pls and thx This is an old school Iv swablu with roost and feather dance! Before the meta changed.
>>59407541>mimikyu abuserhe didn't earn it
>>59407511Salamence isn't getting it back and it won't be the mon it was in 2015, 2016, or 2018/2019
>>59405424>day old thread dead game
>>59407541>singlesconfirmed retard format
>>59407201Why the FUCK are you using Ice Punch on Mega-Gatr?
New Meganium kino just dropped. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZoWc9QE1OU
>>59407636Some people think coverage is really important and they never bothered to calc what STAB dragonize double edge does to even resisted mons vs what a SE Ice Punch does.
>>59407559Personally I liked return on Mega Altaria for Dragon Dance+ Return sweeps since most people didn't expect it instead thinking it was a bulky set. Had the hardest hitting physical fairy attack at the time through Return + Pixilate. Personally never used Mega Salamance despite its strength.
>>59407640>cybertroondropped
>sends delphox and garchomp>opponent sends lopunny and weavile>expects him to mega and fake out and some ice shit on my chomp>mega my delphox and dazzling gleam mega lop since it becomes fighting>switch chomp to giraffe to block fake out>lopunny used hyper voice, and weavile triple axel into giraffe slot>giraffe survives on sitrus>both opponent survives gleam, lopunny is revealed to be zoroark>next turn >tries to psychic zoroark and imprison giraffe>knock off on delphox, ded>scarf zoroark crits hyper voice on giraffe, ded>sylveon and garchomp just comes in to die to hyper voice and triple axeltldr I got rekt by a scarfed zoroark spamming hyper voice and there was nothing i could do
>start with Faggiraffe and Hatterene >use protect then trick room with Hatterene because they ALWAYS double into Farigiraf Shame I usually do no fucking damage next turn to threaten anything without psychic terrain but it's really funny how I've never had anyone try to hit Hatterene turn 1
im starting the think competitive pokemon might be bad
>>59407714>im bad>there for the game is bad-Decartes
>>59407714TRVKE
hello guys. can anyone send me a spare corviknight so i can finish my sand team?
We need a water/grass with flash fire. Or fire/water with storm drain.
>>59407876sure man, this is totally a thread for trading/begging for mons. hit me up with your id and ill send you one straight away! /s
I am turning into a mega golisopod believer.
Help please.
New bread. >>59408011>>59408011>>59408011
why isnt Kleavor used more (at least in singles)
do people really like shinies even if they're crap? i put some random shitty shinies i found in Go years ago on GTS and they got grabbed within a couple minutes for useful meta stuff
>>59405707is mega pincer any good?
>>59407059Skill Swap is Psychic-type and Scrafty is Dark-type.Does the immunity only apply to enemies or something?
>>59407255>antimeta>giraffe, Staraptor, KingambitNo anon, you are the meta.
>>59406943Significantly less than the last season. M-A 1 wasn't so bad, but the grind to MB 2 became near impossible near the last few days, peaked at low 1900s. In M-A 2 I lost A LOT and reorganized my team several times, but I couldn't break out of low 1500s. This season I got to 1900 flat, but still no MB2 despite a lot of people being in it at that point, and tilted back to 1850. I feel like dropping Incineroar for Grimmsnarl might be the move to provide guaranteed bulk early on into shit that can pivot out of Intimidate, but running Mega Garde makes me more likely to get smacked by Steel types.
