Metafagging EditionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>NewsPokemon Champions is out on mobile devices.Season 1 of M-3 ends tonight. The new season will begin afterward. Enter HAJ1MAR1G1FT for a free 100 Quick Coupons and CHAMP10N for a free Machamp.>Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enNew Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPhPrevious: >>59414574
Archaludon has to be one of the most overpowered Pokemon in competitive history, right? Given the roster, there’s nothing that checks it well enough. This is some Snorlax gen 2 bullshit. Kill yourself if you’ve ever used this mon.
I LOVE MY TAILWIND KLEAVOR LEAD AND NOBODY CAN STOP ME FROM USING HIM
>>59418112Yes. Even by the standards of Gen 9 OU and Doubles he was really strong. You're not even playing against Arch at full power right now either, he's lacking Body Press and Assault Vest rn.
Where did everyone end up this last season? I broke 1900 and am pretty happy with that.
1865.Can't be assed to play it. Broke in at 1760 and played maybe 7 games.
>>594181181832 testing out my tournament teams. I'm happy, but I wish I could've ended in MB3 proper. Ladder got full the past few days and my rank got bumped down because of it.
>>59418118got in like the upper 1800's with chestnaught and then started doing random other shit and dropped in the upper 1600's making it to masterball was enough for me
>>59418118Just played my last match, 1868 or something like that, pretty happy considering I played pretty much just the bare minimum to do my dailies, I entered master ball a bit lower than usual but then got a 15 wins streak after getting in, that was pretty cool.
>>59418118Peaked 2050 then started using meme teams until 1900
>>59418112yes but really it's just electro shot being OP, arch itself isn't that special for something with pseudo stats
Shit Game
>>59418070>it suits your playstyle of not using your braincellsunironically yes so I'm thinking about it>>59418065nothing unique. farigiraf, kangaskhan, mawile, sylveon, kingambit, torkoal. torkoal is my only way of dealing with archaludon so I was thinking about swapping sylveon and kingambit out for something useful that can also deal with it because I almost never found a reason to bring those two
>>59418118You don't gain anything from going higher, so I hit MB4 and stopped there.I don't really have a huge desire to continue wading through samefag meta teams just to make number go up.
Home sick and I caught a shiny Vivillon with a mark. Are they still usable?
>>59418238sleep powder is always good
I feel like aero + gambit lead just completely buttfucks any and all TR teams that aren't specifically made to counter it. If you are running the TR team that also brings vileplume, you have to guess if aero will dual wingbeat into vileplume, or wideguard the after you eruption (which doesn't kill aero, because gambit will sucker punch)Just genuinely an insane opener, what the fuck.
>>59418112Charizard Y is way more cancer, yeah Arch is good but he doesn’t instant generate a shitload of value by existing on the field
>>59418334camerupt rapes them both
>>59418342I guess that is true, but I'm not sure it's worth having it on your team when its kinda just a waste of a mega spot a lot of other times. Missing mawile really sucks.
>>59418334any threat to my turn one TR is getting faked out no exceptions
>fsg thinks staraptor is the best pokemon in the game Ok retard, how's pokeball?
>>59418118I was so close to MB2 I could lick it. Like 11,000 on the ladder
>>59418441final gambit does a lot of damage
>>59418340The people complaining about Zard right now aren’t prepared for Paradox mons to be added to the game
>>59418445He also said the raichus are both super common and powerful, 'warping the meta' shit
>>59418450God I can't wait for Iron Valiant
>>59418450Hell, there's a lot of sub legendaries that appreciate the sun. I think we'll see them before the paradox mons.
>>59418441Complete fraud.When Ugarte, Heier, Tang, Underhill, etc all exist you really don't have to listen to people who only follow singles nonsense.
>>59418385Completely valid but my fake out-er is incin, and they ALWAYS lead gambit, which really fucks me over.There isn't a really good trick room fake out user besides grimsnarl (lacks power in TR) and incin.
>>59418511As someone who uses incin, knowing they will always lead kg is a huge boon. I don't even bring incin if I see milotic/gambit. Most of the time they bank their strat on getting that boost and end up having an uphill battle because of it
>>59418515I agree, but then my point goes back to the opening gambit aero against most TR teams is extremely strong because I have to gamble the wide guard usage vs double up, etc.
there's no point in playing this game if you don't compete in official tournamentsyou're just a practice dummy for vgc players
>>59418525what if i have fun playing?
>>59418113What do you run? Tailwind/Stone Axe/U-turn/Protect or something?
>>59418539you're wasting time. the fun feeling will fade eventually, and then you'll be like "why the fuck did I mindlessly play this shit for weeks/months". the return you get will be emptiness, the game was designed so you compete in tournaments for money. all the hype about meta/team comp building/rank doesn't matter, only your performance in tournaments matters
>>59418566Nta but you use X scissor not U turn it chunks with sharpness
>>59418574but the answer to >why the fuck did I mindlessly play this shit for weeks/monthsis "I was having fun while playing"I don't get your point
Playing this game stresses me out.
>give up metaslop>start using meme teams>start winningwhy did no one tell me it was this easy?
>>59418591it's that shrimple
>>59418441>>59418472>Video Explicitly says “losers and winners are determined by how much better they are compared to THEMSELVES before”The videos are about how much Pokemon is buffed/nerfed directly/indirectly, and Staraptor is the most buffed Pokemon for sure.And considering how much the new Meta revolves around trying to stop it and Staraptor being the 6th most used Mega currently, it definitely warrents the title of most buffed Pokemon (which again is what they mean by Winners)You’d know this if you paid attention to the video.
>Gardevoir traced foe Snorlax's Thick Fat!
Anyone else signed up for the Grand Champions Festival Encore this weekend?
>>59418609I laughed
>>59418574>you're wasting timeTime enjoyed is not time wasted.>the fun feeling will fade eventuallyAt which point you can simply stop playing it.>and then you'll be like "why the fuck did I mindlessly play this shit for weeks/months"Because it was fun for weeks/months?Do you think people come out of a movie theater and go "ah fuck, why did I just waste 2 hours enjoying myself when I could have been making money?"
>>59418591Most people who run meta slop teams are retards who can't think outside the box and thus don't know how to fight anything that isn't also meta slop.
>>59418618that makes me happy
>>59418118Just got to MB2 so I'm gonna stop here, good enough. Hopefully I don't fall out of top 10,000 in the few hours before the ranked season stop.
>>59418600No one in the meta is good because it kills staraptor. All the stuff that kills it was already good. The bird is dead in the water.
>>59418340If rock slide wasn't distributed to so many high atk mons that outspeed zard I would agree with you but personally that guy has been a free win for the entirety of M-B. Also everyone got a free raichu.>>59418621>why did I just waste 2 hours enjoying myself when I could have been making money?"People do genuinely think like this and it's horrifying. Their entire life revolves around enriching some ceo or landlord so they get to have more scraps. Seen so many boomers go into their graves with fat bank accounts after a lifetime of conditioning themselves to not "waste" time or money.
i want to cum on Tatora's forehead
>>59418639are there any rewards for a higher rank?
>>5941866215k VP for MB1 and 20k for Champion
I've been running my teams with extra bulky spreads and it seems to completely discombobulate the brains of hyper offense metafags when their weather boosted y zard or swampert doesn't OHKO its target, like they just forget how to play without the flowchart
>>59418699>seems to completely discombobulate the brains of hyper offense metafags when their weather boosted y zard or swampert doesn't OHKO its targetI have a Prankster weather manipulator and even when I Rain Dance, the enemy Yzard just keeps mashing Heat Wave despite it doing nothing to me with halved damage. It's like I'm fighting a bot.
>>59418591The off brand team i made with the VP i made from basic metaslop actually turned out to be pretty serious with each member coincidentally synergizing with eachother and only ever loses due to me making dumb misplays, screwing up the 4 i bring by rushing my selection, a random pokemon i was ill prepared for or unfortunate hax
>>59418611Was that the thing in the Online Competitions section?You just reminded me that there was something there and I forgot to sign up for whatever it was. It's gone now.
I wish you could see battle data for your personal pokemon. Like wins/losses with each one.
>>59418710https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/grandchampionsfestivalencore/details
Rate it, VeePee
Nerf last respects please
>>59418730based basedcringe cringebased cringe
>>59418662you get the tatora x caraway threesome cutscene for reaching champion tier
>>59418080I want to have sweet baby-making sex with Tatora
>>59418736Done. Basculegion gets Fishious Rend as compensation.
>>59418761Ewww
>>59418112M-Raichu Y one-shots it, loser.
>>59418730I don't see anything wrong. Seems strong enough to me.
>>59418761she looks sick...
>>59418774she's dying
>>59418761Amen brother
>>59418340I won't argue against Zard Y probably being the best Mega in the format but it doesn't feel like it when everyone, their mom, and the kitchen sink has an answer for it. They handed out one for free at the start of the season too. Like even if its specced to live a Rock Slide it's still getting blown up by electric moves.
>>59418730Do you run both scizor and raichu often or would mega scizor not be a better option then life orb?
surprise nigger, you thought I was bringing swampert to the match but it was MAWILE
I just happened across a jumbo Pumpkaboo from Wonder Box. Does anyone want it?I don't have the ability to evolve it since I don't have any Switch games, so it's useless to me.
>hard trick team playing protect the king with m-malamarAnd it still failed to pick up a single ko, that's how much malamar sucks
hear me outDamp Rock but for Trick Room
>>59418804Would that also mean Damp Rock for Tailwind?
I'd rather most people use metaslop than schizo crackhead teams desu cause it makes winning with cool pokemon over gay faggot shi more satisfying, though I definitely learn way more from the cool interactions from the random 1 in 20 person running a schizo crackhead team
i made it to 1900im pretty proud of myself :)
>>59418808Peaked at 1960 in the middle of the season after it released on mobile, dropped to around 1900 yesterday using an inconsistent team with 3 memes in 1 including after you vileplume + torkoal, expanding force psyspam with hatterene + giraffe and soak araquanid + mega eelektross
I hit Ultra 2 early on and couldn't play until today, rip
>>59418788Iirc Life Orb Scizor actually hits harder than Mega. I use him to kill the Giraffe & Grimmsnarl to make it easier for my Raichu to sweep
So unfair that people get out of jail by spamming last respects but play rough has a miss chance
>>59418812nice, here’s my dogshit team it was really fun to use
>>59418804Even one extra turn of Trick Room would make it too strong. Trick Room counterplay would change to not denying it, but reversing it. Trick Room is speed control. It's just negative Tailwind. You wouldn't say "I'm building a hard Tailwind team." You'd just make a team and use Tailwind to attain speed control. Trick Room is the same thing; it's an option to use if you're slower than your opponents. The fact that even if your opponents get up speed control, you always have the fall back option of double Protect to stall it out is why they're balanced. Five or more turns of Trick Room, especially once stronger Pokemon like Ursaluna or Amoongus or Indeedee return mean you could see a situation where you opponent gets up TR and you just lose because you can't stall it out.
>>59418834Last Respects is horseshit but Play Rough being able to miss makes sense w/ how good the Fairy type is already
some move like haze and/or clear smog should get rid of TR and tailwind so the whole meta doesn't revolve around denying setup
You both getting to have tailwind at the same time is pretty stupid. You would think the second one undoes the first one.
>>59418858Having two tailwinds pushing against one another should create a special weather.
The surprise factor of Char x always catches me off guard
>1 hour leftWhat did you learn this season?
>>59418875Corviknight is a beast in BSS and it will probably carry me for another 2 months
managed to nearly break 2000 elo with this team, had other things to do besides grind that though since it was luck based. general strategy was lead meowstic and overqwil, with meowstics goal being to help keep overqwil alive to set up stockpile and minimize boosts. skill swap to give it prankster so it always moves first, as well as get a double intimidate to cuck threats like garchomp or m-swampert. once meowstic goes down klefki comes in (sometimes sableye if its too dangerous for the keys), psych up, and then spams substitue/calm mind. sableye comes out to psych up too and mega evolve if overqwil ends up dying or its too dangerous for the keys to be out, like against zard-y.
>>59418885sneasler and delphox were useless, never brought them out. theres likely use cases for like kingambit, and maybe if i was a better pilot i could try experimenting against zard/chomp leads which fuck me, but for the most part ive never needed them. do what you will with this information, its a genuine terrorist team that has resulted in several people attempting to protect/timer stall the battle out to force a draw (with no success)
>>59418875Make it rain did not need to get nerfed
>>59418875Keep that speed control on you at all timesHow to dismantle enemy birdsHow much more usable a mon can become with the addition of one coverage move
>>59418889string cheese hands typed this post
Made it into Master Ball by the skin of my teeth
>>59418112I have never struggled against ArchaludonIf anything Mega Swampert is the bigger threat in rain teams
when should i put an extra coverage move vs. protect if i need to choose between them
>>59418080>>59418761finally fixing her this patch
>>59418875encore and taunt are my favourite moves
>>59418875Houndstone wasn't enough of a buff for sandstorm I may as well just stick to rain
Live from The Pokemon Company HQ:UH OH GAIJIN IS ONE WIN AWAY FROM MASTER BETTER GIVE HIM NIGGER OPPONENT WITH GOOD CHANCEU FOR LUCKY VICTORY!!!!! SUGOI GAMING DESU NEIII!!!!! HE WIRR RIVE ON ONE (1) HIT-O POINT-O AND ACTIVE POISON TOUCH ON SNEASLER-CHAN. HE WIRR DIE TO ROUGH SKIN BUT GAME STIRR GIVE WIN TO NIGGER OPPONENT-CHAN. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Really, this is supposed to be chess but better? When this nigger can crit me, get a low roll to live on 1 hp, get poison touch proc, AND die to rough skin but give me a loss instead of a draw??????????
I want to punch someone right now
>>59418894M-Dragalge in doubles is definitely a choice so good job
>put 2 metaslop pokemon on my team>never pick them and always choose the other 4 that are made to counter what the opponent would probably pick thinking i will bring the metaslop
I just pulled a shiny orange flower florges. I might try using her as a spdef tank
>>59418894>that VPWtf how much have you grinded
>>59418896>If anything Mega Swampert is the bigger threatHit him with one single grass move and he fucking disintegrates.
>>59418935NTA but at one point, you will be swimming in VP unless you tinker your teams every battle
>>59418875I suck at singles
Im only on the 15s this time and its my first season so its all good. Gonna try going for 19s next
>>59418924Chess takes more brains and autism than this game, anon.
>about to win>lose
I quit
>>59418975See you tomorrow.
>4 hours maintenanceSurely they can add some buffs and nerfs, right?
Are they adding new mons today? TR is cool but I'd like to have some new tools to experiment with.
>>59418935I have more than twice that and outside of the first season I only played the minimum to get into Master and do the dailies.
Finding it harder to lose than not to lose to rain teams lately
>>59418916>>59418924So annoying, should only drop and gain 5 rating points at most when losing and winning cause of bs like my RaYchu getting frozen when the opponent has a milotic
>>59418982Heh
haven't played in months. anything new?
Is Cyclizar any good? I got one in Wonder Trade and I don't know if I should hold on to it for when it gets added to Champions, or toss it back into the slot machine.
>>59419009>discount koraidon>good
Been working with this team for a while, it's pretty good once you know how to pilot it.Only thing is the EV's could probably use some optimization but I'm not good at calculating optimal speeds and such.
>>59419000Garchomp got Life Orb, Rain teams got Swampert. Meta is still CharY centric but you'll see more Mega Staraptor in low elo and scrub killer teams.
>>59418875BSS is for niggers and i really should play something wacky next season.
>>59419012Well obviously he's not going to be AS good as an actual legendary, but I don't own a Switch, so Koraidon's off the table.The question is whether Cyclizar is good enough to keep at all.
*solves rain*
>>59419009It's decent. Mostly used as a support mon in singles with Shed Tail, but it's gotta a cracked movepool that'll let you catch opponents off guard. Ultimately, though it's a common mon so you can just as easily get another one with little hassle.
>>59419023Give it energy ball. Do it cowards
>>59419033Its got grass knot and surf how is that not enough for you
>>59419033>>59419038Fake Out is too useful to give up ime, better to have a teammate with a grass move or something bulky like umbreon or grimmsnarl behind Reflect that can chip away at mega swampert with Foul Play while it KO's itself with Wave Crash
>>59419019You can just beg for a koraidon here eventually
>>59418986The tools rain has to work with are just too varied and fucking insane, imagine how miserable it would be if this weather went back to gen v mechanics
Which mons commonly run with Roar again to counter TR and speed boosts?
>>59419080None.
>>59419080Farigiraf.
>>59419080none because hard TR is not good outside of shitting on noobs
>>59418982ask again in two months
>Tailwind is so strong that it's basically a necessity>if both players run Tailwind then it does nothing and there's no fucking pointThe devs should just remove Tailwind.
>>59419117Trick Room counters Tailwind
>>59419117they should 100% remove speed control, its too polarizing
>>59419110So this “season” is just an excuse to charge another $20 for a pass, and no other content will be added until the next regulation? These goddamn japs I swear man
>run trick room team>opponent open with farigiraf that it's clearly there to reverse the trick room>put hatterene in front of his farigiraf>click protect while he clicks trick room>he tries to turn off next turn while I just turn on againI play for these moments
>>59419136*click Imprison*
>>59419117You can play through an opponent's tailwind with either enough aggression and priority moves or defensive plays.
>>59419125Only if the mon who's supposed to set it up doesn't get one-shot that turn by the enemy mon who isn't setting Tailwind.
>>59419142Name one mon that oneshots Farigiraf
>>59419133You're not forced to buy the pass, y'know
>made it to masterball 2 by the skin of my teeth.How do I git gud?Only reason I always make it is, because of a lucky streak where I only get matched up against other mb3 shitters or get a lucky break against mb2 players.How do I reach the terrritory of the gud?Everytime I reach masterball 2 I feel like everyone just reads me like a dr.seuss book.
>>59418875To stop using non attacking moves when a whimsicott is on the field and not to use priority against farigaraf + Mega Lopuuny is very underrated, After You has got me our of some rather hopeless situations
>>59419139that looks good, why do people try to reverse trick room when they can just do that?
any good leads to go with dual screens sableye in vgc?
>>59419144Kleavor
>>59419161Arch.Swampert.
I have a legitimate question as someone who got into Pokemon so late (Swish). Why aren't there more cash prize tournaments or any prize tournaments for VGC? Pokemon has a much larger fan base than the fighting genre and I never ever see a cash prize Pokemon tournament let alone a pokemon tournament that would give a prize out like a gift card, games, a console, or even Pokemon cards. Do they even exist? Chatgpt hasn't netted me any results and google is shit
>>59419144>all you need to counter Tailwind is this one specific mon running this one specific moveClearly a healthy meta.How many TR setters are as bulky as the giraffe?
>>59419171Mimikyu
>>59419169Look at the online tournaments on Limitless.>>59419144Zard Y, but you only get it 90% of the time.
>>59418875Farigiraf's held item is like Schrodinger's cat: simultaneously a Colbur Berry and Mental Herb until you either Knock Off or Taunt
>Mega Golisopod releases>use soak on it to abandon its fire weakness
>>59419165Only a 50% chance on a max-Defense Farigiraf, even with a max-attack Sharpness Kleavor using X-Scissor.
I want to try this guy after maintenance, Chilly Reception seems like a neat move in a weather packed meta and good for getting harder hitters out on a trick room team
>>59419181Any damage boosting item pushes it over the line, even Muscle Band does the job.
>>59419189For what it's worth, regular Slowking can also learn the move.
>>59419169there technically are, but the actual prize money at best is paying out just a chip of the price of travel and lodging
>>59419179golisopod entrainment might be worth considering, throwing water bubble onto m-golisopod
>>59419214i meant araquanid entrainment
>>59419199I'd like to test both and see which one has the more useful typing thanks in advance to any kind anons
>>59419176Thanks, I'll look into it>>59419208I read that the official tournaments have people spending more money than they can possibly can win which is a shame. It's the whole reason why I'm asking this. Living in the biggest metropolitan city and finding out there aren't even local tournies that would give out a console, a game, a gift card, a booster pack is just weird to me. It would be an easy way to give people what they want while attracting foot traffic.
>>59419144for megas floette has an easy ohkooutside megas hydreigon and volcarona ko physdef giraffes which most of them arealternatively anyone with taunt
>>59419221
>>59419222unfortunately pokemon ain't that big as a competitive game (yet) simply because there were still a shit load of barriers into actually getting into pvp (actually debating as to whether or not said barriers were good will only shit up the thread)if champions can actually play its cards right through this can change in the future, i don't see it happening though especially since they didn't do jack shit like remove random damage rolls nor make a hax meter to replace rng and do chess rules
What would be the best way to exploit Bellibolt's Electromorphosis?Having his teammate waste a turn smacking him just to double Bellibolt's damage seems like it would be strictly worse than having two mons attacking, so I feel like I'd want to go with AoEs like Discharge or Parabolic Charge (which Bellibolt would resist).I thought about going with Limber Ditto to have two Bellibolts doing Parabolic Charge on each other, but a single ground type with Earthquake would holocaust them.Maybe a bulky Mow Rotom to threaten ground types, or Frost Rotom to threaten Garchomp specifically?
>>59419229The biggest barrier to entry in VGC really is just the sheer amount of foundational knowledge to make "educated" guesses and predictions.If you don't have a lot of experience and knowledge of mechanics and interactions it will feel like your opponents are basically cheating.I was perfectly fine with the streamlining that gen 6/7/8 made to breeding/ev training/hyper training and gen 9's mirror herb was beautiful. I don't want people to be discouraged, but it's difficult as shit to learn everything you need.
>>59419242Raichu X setting electric terrain could carry discharge as an extra to boost Bellibolt, but I suspect most of the time it's better to just use volt tackle or close combat.
>>59419243in a way i also see that as learning a board game like chesslike you need full knowledge of what every piece can do and all the niche rules of chesspokemon is chess mixed with the gambling of poker, like if your queen just has a random chance of just bypassing a rook instead of capturing it
>>59418118High 1600s, which is a marginal improvement over the past two seasons especially since I felt to low 1200s a few weeks back.
What determines what your ELO is when you very first reach Master Ball?
Apparently there's a bug that allows you to switch back the pivot pokemon by time-out during the switch screenhttps://x.com/PokeMaineEvent/status/2074534154817994801But how the hell one managed to find this bug? Some disgruntled ass who tried to stall when losing?
>>59419286Win/loss
>>59419290Lol I'm going to do this if it still works
When is maint done?
>>59419286You always have a ELO getting affected by your performances, it's just hiding it from you until Master Ball.
>>59419320When you post legs
>>59419290lol I'm trying this
>>59419290>>59419406>M-Staraptor getting Parting Shotted by his teammate every single turn
So, what's new?
>>59418118A little over 1900 but I only started playing the last few days of the ranked ladder. I think I will make an attempt at Champ tier the next season.
>>59419426its fucking nothing
>>59419426a couple of gay poses in the pass. and some gay clothes.
>>59418875Sun package is still stronger than the rain package
>log in>nothing is different>battle pass offers even less than the last oneThis game wont survive.
>>59419425I was thinking sending someone to -3 atk on turn 1
>no new pokemon>no new items>no new customization options except 1 jacket, 1 pair of pants, and a few poses in the $10 battle pass>in spite of this jewery, there is STILL no option to buy the $7 thing for +50 box slots on mobile
I know that they know that they can get away with it but its unbelievable to me just how jewy EVERYONE involved with Pokemon is. No one working on anything Pokemon actually, genuinely cares about the series.
wow there's nothing even in the base customization shop.they are expecting people to buy the pass so that they can have two megastones that have been purchased already and some clothes/poses... the pokemon they give aren't even shiny or have anything special besides the cherish ball
Really, no new mons?
Season M-3 was only like 20 days, calm the fuck down.
>https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regmb-2645831959>forgot what psychic terrain does>still winI need a Pyroar, Vivillon and maybe an Annihilape to make this team a reality. But I got too much free stuff from you bros already...
>paralyzed pokemon moves 5 straight turnscool game
>>59419485Para chance got nerfed to 1/8th of a chance so yeah
>>59419463it's like they're allergic to money
any mystery gift codes?
They’re relying entirely on the top 1% of tournament attending compfag sweats to keep it alive long term. Which is honestly retarded since it didn’t work for Unite, and it won’t work for this game. It’s a shame cause they could do so many interesting things with the formula (wacky tournament formats, balance fucking patches, draft, single player challenge mode etc) but no, it’s just drip feeding mons until the game dies
To any kind soul out there
>>59419502i would keep playing if they had any worthwhile cosmetics or arena skins or just about anything to unlock to keep things fresh but for some reason no. they won't even sell me things that already exist in engine and i wish to buy
>>59419502>>59419519Wind & Waves will shake things up. Trust the plan...
campaignshitter thread, bitching is weakness, git gud
>>59419502>since it didn’t work for UniteUnite's still alive though, isn't it?
>>59419479How about not for free, then?I have Pokemon X, I could get you a Pyroar and Vivillon in exchange for an Aqua Tauros.
>>59419538i would but i'd need to do remote raids in GO just to get that and i dont really do raids in the first place
>>59419144Bug bite Scizor with helping hand and life orb.
>>59419502Gen 5 remakes will save the franchise.
>>59419548I dont think they're going for remakes. It might actually be B3W3
>>59419543You drive a hard bargain, but I'm almost done catching them, so my next offer is "whatever you have".
>>59419552this one. thanks anon>>59419518
>>59419555What gender? I have both.Also what about the Vivillon?
>two months more for roster updateGod damn it
>>59419557Either one they look the same Mega'd anyway lol. I'll post one for Vivillon once that gets traded
>>59419558three, actuallynot like they have a lot of mons to add
>>59419543I've been considering getting a cheap base switch just for a couple pokemon games because GO is such dogshit to get anything decent with
>>59419572it's been kinda alright for me doing it casually, i got a few good ones and I've only been playing for a little over a week lol. i guess it helps i live downtown near commercial centers. the raid event is pretty ass though i can't even farm coins from gyms because of stupid raids spawning every 5 minutes. and i'm really trying my hardest not to pay for this dogshit catching sim
Was the extra box slots on rank up a one time thing?
>>59419579Pretty much. Pay up piggy
>>59419543>>59419572Reminder to trademaxx in Pokemon Home.Catch garbage, check what people are offering for the garbage (you really never know). Put the garbage into Wonder Box, then when you get different mons from that, check what people are offering from each of THOSE mons. If you don't intend on keeping a mon, always trade it, because you can always trade up. Maybe your Weedle is worthless, but maybe you could get a Charmander for it through the Wonder Box. Maybe that Charmander is worthless to you, but maybe someone's offering something good for it. Or they're offering something bad for it, but someone ELSE is offering something good for that bad thing you get from the Charmander trade.I wound up with fucking a fucking Solgaleo purely by churning shitmons through Wonder Box.
>>59419562Sent.
>>59419585I've been playing the trade game on GTS more than Champions these days kek. If you can trade up and get to Gholdengo you have access to lots of legendaries and shinies. People will offer legendaries for Basculegion, Kingambit and Archaludon too but Gholdengo's the most valuable trade fodder from my experience so far
>>59419502I don't know anon, but can't (you) play a game just because it's fun?
>two dogshit pulls in a row>third one has multiple mons I want as well as some titlesshit
>>59419587danke. here's a nip one for the vivillon
>>59419610Sent.Remember to pay it forward.
>>59419624You bet. Thanks a lot anon let's gooooooooo
Do you get extra box spaces from champion ball?
>>59419639nah
what happened to gholdengo?
>under MB>run a brain-dead meta rain team>once I'm in MB>immediately switch to all my nonviable underrated but childhood favourite mons
Why waste 2 turns setting up screens?
>>59419686still doing good in my singles team. doesn't always win but it's satisfying when it does
>>59419686Nerfed into irrelevance. I tried to run him for a while but he's pretty shit
what's with these sore losers enforcing the Communicating... desync exploit even in Pokeball tier just so they win? wtf is wrong with these nerds
>gen 10 leaks say we're getting a wind weather (but more interesting than Rayquaza's resistanceslop)
>>59419700>inb4 tailwind is gonna be a weather move now toothe weather wars are gonna be worse. can't wait for indeedee and amoonguss in september too for a "healthier" meta
>>59419692>>59419694i asked cause its in one of my teams but there is a red symbol above it that indicates its not allowed i thought, must be something else
>>59419708It might have a move that's not legal in Champions.
>>59419703What if it becomes a weather move but only works with flying types?
>>59419691you're supposed to apply screens when needed instead of going back to back setting them up unless the opponent is going with a mixed offensive lead or you know your setter is going to die
>>59419703>Tailwind becomes weather>weather affects both sides>Tailwind affects both sides>nothing changes lmao
I haven't logged in yet, what new cosmetics did they add beyond the new pass?
what the fuck is that trash on the new battle pass?this game is utterly fucked if bottom-barrel shit that nobody would buy on the free currency store is now being peddled on the real money passwhat a sad game
>bug that glitches out the trainerToo bad none of those are Becca
>>59419749Poor guy's been forced to battle day and night nonstop
>>59419749Is that Splatoon
>>59419749>toplessfemale version of this glitch??
>>59419733none lol>store has a slot for hairstyles and eye color>there's only the eye color part
>>59419714i just noticed its a rental thats to old
>>59418112>>59418340You just need one Pokémon to destroy both and is called RAICHU Y
>>59419686Its not actually that OP when it cannot tera away its weakness
First place doubles team
First place singles team
>>59419788shocking and groundbreaking
>>59419792I like this one, great team.>>59419788Do people refuse to run counter teams? I don't understand why people are having so much problems with this team.
>>59419796It’s the standard Zardslop but it was piloted by Shohei Kimura (zeen), the 2023 world championhttps://x.com/zeen172M/status/2074749073220088227?s=20
Singles team (lost the link to the author, oops)
>>59418080Sooooo what is new this season? I think the devs did a terrible job at creating a Gacha game. Charizard Y should be some super rare and difficult to obtaining Gacha pull, instead of this free for everyone mentality. Makes everything pointless
>>59419725>or you know your setter is going to dieSo like i said, why waste 2 turns?
Still baffled they allowed this to happen. Some nip salaryman really wanted you to like his shitmon
>>59419686Aegislash is unironically better at its job
>>594198128 turns of screens are a lot and wasting two turns is nothing when you can fake out/protect/pivot
>>59419595>can't (you) play a game just because it's fun?nta but no
>>59419805this is barely a gacha unless you consider hitting rock slide a gacha mechanic
>>59419821>YOOOOOOOO I JUST ROLLED A LEGENDARY SSS+ "Double crit flinch Rock Slide" LETSS GOOOOOOOOOOO CHAT
>>59419814>solarbeam and meteor beam still cuckedWoe 90 Acc be upon ye in Gen 10
>>59419144God's greatest nuke has you covered>32 SpA Raichu-Mega-Y Helping Hand Zap Cannon vs. 32 HP / 2 SpD Farigiraf: 234-276 (103 - 121.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>>59419832>helping handDoesn't count.
>>59419823kek careful popping off or you might get banned for "unsporting conduct"
>>59419814>>59419825That Pokémon always dies to a super effective move
>>59419832>the pikarat does not oneshot the hungry giraffe despite his stats being minmaxed to deal as much damage as possiblegrim
>>59419144Uhh mega heracross i guess
>>59419796>wow why can't people beat the best team in the format?
Why the fuck even have VP if there isn't anything to spend it on
>>59419855How would they get anyone to spend money in this game
>>59419857By offering them shit to spend money on and there's none of that either
>>59419863yeah but what
>>59419855to buy the few cosmetics you might want considering that they are expensive as fuck
>>59418080honestly this shit is getting really boring, the cool mons are straight up bad and the meta is pretty stale. I might be done with this
Ok I'm done running TR this season, it's shit in the 1.8k+ range. I need to think of something fun to run with weather or tailwind.
>>59419879I had my character's look down by the end of day one. They should add more poses, hairstyles, eye colors, shit like that. At the very least they need to add more music.
>>59419854>wow why can't people beat the best team in the format?I don't know
What Pokemon actually have a winning matchup into the Arch? I'm playing rain and I'm looking for options to win the mirror, currently I'm running Mega Saur with Earth Power
>>59419864>yeah but whatI still think the Gacha should be way more complicated and more difficult to obtaining pokemon
add a move called headwind that halves your team's speednow mid-speed mons actually have a niche by being slow enough that headwind makes them go first in trick room, but tailwind also makes them faster than fast mons (unless they have their own tailwind)
>>59419887also something other than sportswear>>59419894mega raichu Y deals good damage with focus blast. if archaludon is not max hp/sp.def you can just oneshot it
>>59419896you could actually make this simpler without making a new move by just allowing tailwind to be applied to the opponents team
there should be a new move that sets a room like trick room but instead it just randomizes turn order instead of reversing it
Did they add new Pokemon?
>>59419910nope, not even itemsit's still rain/sun meta
>>59419908funnily the same thing could he accomplished by making everyone's speed equal
There should be a Trick Room but for type advantages
>>59419908>but instead it just randomizes turn order instead of reversing ithow's that hypnosys treating you?
How cancerous is this lead?> be anon> bring normal Dragonite with a Lum berry (Jolly, 32 Spe, Multiscale). Dragon Tail, Ice Spinner, Fire Punch> Garchomp? OHKO, nearly always outspeed> Actually bad player, just Ultra 1 tier> New match with a nip> Torkoal with pebbles> Not bad, but fuck off we Dragon Tail> Corviknight> Thanks for the sun, BURN BITCH> Fuck your Leftovers too, Dragon Tail> Mega Dragalge, of course it's Toxic> Free turn for Ice Spinner> Ice Spinner because fuck you too> They just forfeit (I had CharY and Basculegion)
>>59419928>5 turns where resistances and weaknesses are swapped out>the first sneasler that moves kills the otherI like it
>>59419463belly...erotic..!
>>59419796>Do people refuse to run counter teams?People do run counter teams but those teams perform less well against every other team type than this one, thus they dont rate as high.
I am so fucking sick of these monthly singles challenges.You mean to say you can't make some kind of gimmick tournament for doubles that doesn't pay points?How about a tournie that bans top 10 usage mons? This game is fucking dead because they're moving too slow and doing fuck all.
>>59419226sent :)
>>59419943yes
>>59419968there aren't even pre evos so you can't even do little cup.I'm ok with a small pool of pokemon but competitions are basically the same as playing through ranked mode
>Trick Room reverses speed>Wonder Room reverses Def and Special DefCome on Gamefreak where's the Room that reverses Attack and Special Attack
>Not nicknaming your PokemonYou aren't that heartless are you anon?
>>59419987they don't nickname them in the anime where the power of friendship is an actual win condition so i think i'm okay
>>59419968>I am so fucking sick of these monthly singles challenges.>How about a tournie that bans top 10 usage mons? playing fun stuff is why i joined the draft tourney.we did host a for fun tourney at the tail end of M-A and that was fun. The idea of a second round of the tourney with a banlist/different ruleset was bandied about, but right now we are sort of in the middle of draft/monotype season.Hopefully once one of them or both winds down someone can host tournies here for fun
>>59419989Pokemon were cut and features were removed to make room for nickname data on the cart. If you dont nickname your mons, you disrespect their legacy.
>>59418574
>>59419987only if they manage to performthis hisuian goodra I've been using in the past four days might get her own nickname
I want to do a cool/unique gimmick team using moves people don't expect. Right now I'm running araquanid which is extremely good, any other suggestions for a core mon? I want to use tailwind or sand probably.
>>59420047Acid Spray is one of my favorite niche moves but it only really works in singles on a stallmon
>>59419144Every time my mega tyranitar hits it with knock off it's a OHKO
>>59420058>battling people without correct berry on farigouting yourself as pisslow
>>59420063Anon the only berry I see on farigiraf is sitrus. Everything else is either focus sash or mental herb.
>>59419796The team is its own counter, while also doing well against all other teams. You could run something that 100% hard cucks it, but then you'd match up worse into other teams.
>>59419794>1st place team is a meta team>in other news, sky is bluelet us know when you get 1st place with your niche anti-meta team anon
>>59420314well I agree with him that it's nothing interesting. I've seen the same team hundreds of times
>opponent starts spamming protect on their last PokemonThey're gonna shoot up a school after this match, aren't they
Reminder for my fellow Trick Room players to take their estrogen pills! :)
You guys never told me that m-delphox is actually good against sun
>>59420124Yeah, because you are pisslow. Dark reduction berry is the only one worth running on farig. You are realistically not dying to anything except extreme cheese other than gambit + X opener
>>59419968Sire where is our terrastal crescendo?We know that can do all kinds of wild shit with the formats.
>>59419792>BelliboltIs it good?
They concocted the perfect meta to have shillzard win the world championship.
>>59419897>also something other than sportswearI bet the reason all the modern games like Champions and Unite all do the skintight bodysuit thing is because it means they can make "outfit" options that are just simple textures and require no actual modeling.
>>59419896>now mid-speed mons actually have a niche by being slow enough that headwind makes them go first in trick roomWould it be worth costing two moves to set that up?
>>59420354Unlike what that anon suggested "headwind" would actually be anti TR tech lmao.Opponent sets up TR, you set up "headwind" and now you underspeed them.
>>59420371that was my intent (it's supposed to be anti TR tech for mid speed teams) when I wrote the original post, but I see why it was misunderstood
>>59420379Given how much better balance teams have been for the last 5 or 6 formats, I think that move is unnecessary.
>>59420384What defines a "balance," team?
Okay anons, what's the best way I can finally break to Champion tier this season? Should I grind up during this initial "locked" week, or push more when Week 2 unlocks everything? Also, team recommendations? I've been running M-Swamp/M-Meta standard rain team, but open to switching things up to make my odds of climbing better. Highest I've made elo wise is 1900 last season.
Prankster Encore users deserve the rope
>>59420426Your best bet is doing it as fast as possible right now before the ladder is bloated to hell.
>>59420418NTA but a balance team is somewhere in-between hyper offense (frail fast attackers and boosters who just nuke you before you can kill them) and stall (super bulky mons that wear you down with status and chip damage) I disagree with that guy though, the VGC meta is way closer to HO than stall, too close to be called balance
>>59420463I agree there's a lot of hyper offense in "Big6", but those AeroZard teams are pure balance and they have tended to do better than Zard/Floette.Farig, Incin, Sylveon, and now Chomp with life orb round out those teams.
>>59420453Sounds good, guess just push and try to hold 1900-2000 elo as much as possible before Master 3-Champion unlocks?
>>59420476Yeah. 2000 as soon as you can since it's likely to get increasingly decayed the longer the season goes on and very well could end up being M2 at the end.
people are (rightfully) piling on zard Y and arch but scarf basculegion is going under the radar as the true cancer of this gameso many things it just completely invalidates by existing
>>59420478Thanks anon, would standard Swamp/Metagross rain team be sufficient or would another team option be better? Bit behind on the meta, did see a Delphox/Blastoise team going around so wanna make sure I got something that'll keep me competitive with common threats.
>>59420484No clue, but most likely. It's tried and true for a reason.
>>59420511Thanks fren, wish me luck
>>59420058colbur is the objectively correct berry, also why aren't they faking you out
>>59419928>>59419938>steel burns in hellArchaludon would cry like a bitch and commit suicide over something that Aurorus had to go through for 10+ years.would be based
All my favourite Pokémon are bad.All my disliked Pokémon are good.
>>59419928mega abomasnow stocks rise tremendously, it would be his time
>>59420471Farig is lowkey a HO pokemon
>>59420596It's part of the reason why I like Sableye so much, it's Schrondinger's Pokemon. You don't know if it is good or bad until you see what moves it has, or if it's Mega or not. It is simultaneously great and a shitmon
Did they fix the incin bug yet?
New bread.>>59420649>>59420649>>59420649
