Least Used Fairy EditionPokémon Champions is a free to play online battle simulator available on Switch and mobile. It features ranked, casual and private battles for both singles and doubles, and will be used for VGC tournaments in 2026.>NewsPokemon Champions is out on mobile devices.Season 1 of M-3 ends tonight. The new season will begin afterward.Enter HAJ1MAR1G1FT for a free 100 Quick Coupons and CHAMP10N for a free Machamp.>Resources and useful linksCommunity Tournaments usage data: https://pikalytics.com/Ladder usage data: https://pokechamdb.com/enNew Player Guide(NEW PEOPLE READ THIS):https://rentry.org/pcg-guide (now taking suggestions and feedback)Quick FAQ>Do I need my own Pokémon to play?No, the game features a recruitment system, but transferring from Home is recommended to save time and resources.>What makes the game so much more accessible than before?All aspects of a Pokémon are customizable with VP, a currency earned simply by playing the game. IVs are also removed.Ask in the thread if you want any specific Pokémon, and someone will respond.>Is there single player content?No.>Do I need a Nintendo Online subscription?No.>What's the starter pack?US$6.99 one time purchase for 50 training tickets (fully train for free), 30 Teammate Tickets (recruit Pokemon without using VP), 50 extra box space and the LGPE trainer music. Only available on Switch for now.>Is anything locked behind a paywall?So far everything gameplay relevant is also purchasable with VP. Only E-Floette require ZA transfer.>/pcg/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):https://pastebin.com/d2FJZdPhPrevious: >>59418080
Had the most agonizing match against some perishtrap shitter but at least I wasted all of his time
>>59420649I'd use Mega Clefable if they'd fucking add Metronome to the game.
>>59420649Clef my beloved
>>59420676I can't believe those assholes removed it
Why the fuck does Froslass not learn freeze dry
Speed is such an odd thing. I feel like since delphox/zard are super meta and strong, I would want to pick something faster than them - but at the same time neither of those comps commonly run tailwind, so I could maybe just run anything almost with tailwind?
>>59420757What do you mean, it's very common for Zard Y to run Whimsicott/Aerodactyl with tailwind
speed isn't realif you're being outsped just sneak a trick room off on that damn cup I know you brought
I'm starting to really like the capoeira duck
>>59420773What are you running on it? I'm looking for more interesting stuff to use that's not boring meta slop
>>59420613Maybe when it has throat spray back.
>>59420773I like the gameplay design, I’m just so tired of these increasingly anthropomorphic starters.
>>59420790Gen 6 onwards starters were forgettable. I can still remember kanto-sinnoh because they were actual pocket monsters.
>>59420773He's good. I used him during to S0 to get to M4 in singles. Biggest issue was that he suffered a lot from 4MSS.
>rock head aerodactly>it doesn't even learn any fucking recoil moves
>>59420773Aqua Step/CC/Brick Break (for grimm)/Triple Axel with life or (could go focus sash too) and I run jolly on it instead of adamant, I think getting the first aqua step in matters>>59420790I haven't played a real pokemon game since fire red on GBA so I never kept up with the starters but quaquaval stood out to me a lot when I rolled him. I think people are too used to anthros being thematic (delphox IIRC had a wizard theme?). Maybe WiWa will be more feral in its theming
>>59420796imagine if rock head nullified life orb recoil
>>59420802Oops I meant>>59420778
>>59420720take the ice cream pill
Shit Game
They should add a few shitmons like Flygon or Lapras at the very least every season reset if they don't wanna change up the meta too much for whatever reason
>>59420790Increasingly?
If TPC isn't going to add new pokemon or cosmetics more frequently than every 2.5 months because "small indie company prease undastando", the LEAST they could do to keep interest is add some new limited-time game modes to the matchmaking system with the assets they do have.Monotype, no-items, inverse battles, a mode where only the least-used half of the roster is allowed, etc.Give the players SOMETHING new to play with every season even if it's just different ways to experience the existing content.
>Another offical tournament >It’s fucking BSS again
Over 500k players made it to master ball tier in season M-3. Anyone know the stats for M-2?
I didn't even use my annoying af umbreon and made someone with a metaslop team time the game out yesterday, they had a black avatar if that's a clue as to why
>>59420971How do I learn how to BSS
V1 of my UU team, with zero mons in the top 30 ingame usage of doubles as following>https://pokechamdb.com/en?format=double&season=M-3&view=pokemonTook about an hour from concept to battle. Theorycrafting, going into scarlet/ZA to transfer to home then champions, getting sets online.
>>59420796Considering Game Freak's disgusting track record when it comes to mistreating fossil Pokemon Aerodactyl having a mega evolution is a miracle to begin with.
Protect the Blastoise/Delphox is way more cancerous than rain and tailwind whimsislopp
Just turned down a shiny abomasnow cause I have a regular one for a gourgeist cause its signature move sounds fun
>>59421092What does blasetoise do that is so good? Is it really just water spout in the rain?
>>59421095Nice. I turned down a Swampert and an Archaludon for a shiny Salazzle because I want to be pozzed by a Salazzle.
>>59421099The teammates around it like sneasler, incineroar and teapot are the actual problem, im just saying they're cancerous cause I lose to that archetype desu and I actually wish more people used it cause I need practice against it while ive solved rain, hard trick room etc
Bulkiest fairy that can tank hits from Chomp and Mega staraptor as leads?
One Instruct monke please
dead game
>>59421116M-Altaria, Aromitisse, Grimmsnarl, Clef, Tink.
>>59421116i can't speak for chomp, but unaware clef is good for starraptor since it just doesn't give a shit about the boosts and shrugs off close combat
>>59421116Pretty medium bulk (you can modify its defenses as its an aqua jet bot, so doesn't care too much about speed) but those mons sound like a free set up opportunity for an azumaril holding a sitrus berry if paired with a Fake Out user, maybe a grimmsnarl with taunt to stop Encore whim and set screens for azu
The more I have incin on my hard TR team the more I think it's fucking useless. Intimidate is a liability against gambit, which does EXTREMELY well into hard TR. Same with milotic, but that's less common recently. It doesn't hit anything I need hit hard almost at all because mega mawile has sp. It just sticks around too long, because it's generally not safe to parting shot out into torkoal/non mega mawile because they are so fucking frail. The meta is OVER once they bring ursaluna.
I never realised gourgeist was almost as fast as rotom, too slow to turn ghosts and steels into a ghost type for mega alakazam, too fast to turn darks and steels into a ghost type for hatterene under TR unless its down to their last 2 mons
>>59421130I've been seeing incin on trick room teams lately and im like "why", trick room teams are made to nuke things fast, 115 base attack simply doesn't cut it even with memes like life orb incin
>>59421130incin isn't as useful as he usually is because assault vest isn't in the game, which in turn means special attackers are overrepresented
>>59421138Also kanghaskhan is better if you need a fake out guy, that thing will murder your team if you don't take it seriously
>>59421130I wish Hariyama was in that was the best way to set TR in early SV
I don't think I'll touch this game this season. I'm sitting on a billion tickets and money. There isn't even a battle pass that's worth playing for. Literally 0 incentive to even make it out of pokeball this time.
You say you want to play against unique opponents and have fun team building but you didnt join the draft league? Hmm curious.
>>59421143The fakeout last resort build? If not - which one? I'm sick of this cat.
>>59421156Yeah that with silk scarf or life orb
>>59421159That's interesting. I assume it's just fake out turn 1 last resort next turn and hope you don't get protected. Would you run max hp + att, with what nature?
>>59421119What the heck, I've got one laying around.
it's stupid as fuck that basically every mon and their mom learns dark type coverage and i'm tired of pretending it's not
>>59421184I guess it's suppose to be offset by Dark-type moves having low damage? Like there's no Dark-type Close Combat or Draco Meteor or anything like that.
>>59421184This but everything learning earthquake
>>59421186knock off is effectively 100bp (since nearly every competitive mon holds an item) AND has not just no downside but an extremely good upside
>>59421190sorry bro you can't talk about reducing knock off's BP because someone will post "BUT WHAT ABOUT SCIZOR"
>>59421190>>59421184Dawg, Knock Off got gutted from most movepools in Champions. Be happy you're not eating Incin Knock's every other match.
>>59421187This and Close Combat.I guess Arceus thrives off of the suffering of Rock type Pokemon like the death god he is.
>>59421203you can cherry pick incin or gambit if you want but like 80% of mons that could learn it still can
>>59421190Not very much gets knock offIs what I wanted to say but apparently in Champions fucking everything gets knock off since when does Pelliper get knock off !?
>>59421184it's a way to show that every pokemon can be used for evil and will act evil if the trainer wants it toit adds to the lore, fuck off
>>59421208>The mons that would love to mindlessly spam the move the most like Incine, Gambit, Metagross,Staraptor etc no longer learn the moveSuck it up, anon.
I wish we can change the balls they are in Im willing to pay 500vp for itSet some rulesEvery thing is allowed except for Cherish balls or Premier balls.Luxury balls cost 1K
>manage to stall out trick room>miss a 95% and trick room goes back upTrick room should go down to 3 turns unironically.
>>59421234it's worth carrying your own trick room just to cancel it out if it's that much of a problem
>>59421074Run Corviknight and anything that covers its weakness
>>59421239I see even madder people running two TR so they can refresh it
Hmm Salazzle might not be working as much as I thoughtI really struggle against Steel types while still keeping to my poison theme
sleep needs to be nerfed
>>59421074Trick Room focus sash misty explosion hatterene and send out THE WALL against overly physical teams, trick room wisp calm mind cofagrigus is a solid answer to corv and negates megagrosses ability
>>59421257I am a scumbag who yawns the last 2 opposing mons to sleep + do gravity shenanigans with hypnosis and I agree
>>59421116Mega Lopunny+Clefable has worked really well for me. Follow Me covers Lopunny and Encore on Lopunny covers for Clefable so it can survive to enable Lopunny to keep close combating.
>>59421264if sing has low accuracy, hypnosis and sleep powder need to be nerfed even further. and waking up needs to be more frequent
I think I'm done until Worlds gents.It's clear to me GF isn't serious about this game. We've had singles challenge 3 months in a row and they haven't even tried doing anything they should be doing to keep players around.A bi-weekly meme tournament would keep the base engaged.
>>59421274I think the ranch system and the box mechanic just isnt conducive to having meme tournaments.For the actual power gamer, you have swsh/sv/za available to you. It you want to make a mono ground team, you can probably get it in an hour. For the phone only playerbase, theyll bitch and cry about meme tournies>what do you mean its monotype? I dont have enough for any team>i dont want to join this little cup, why the fuck would i ever pick litten from the ranch when i dont have staraptor yetI know this is all ilca's fault, and can be fixed by tweaking the ranch banner or by giving you premade teams or whatever. Im just saying we dont have the infrastructure to do the things you want right now. That an aside, we absolutely can self host biweekly meme tournaments ourselves here in vp if we want. Right now its kind of bogged down by the monotype and draft, but if anyone else wanna pick up the slack to host and manage it, we absolutely can do it ourselves.
>>59421250Maybe galarian slowking?>far less frail then salazzle>learns fire coverage>regenerator>option on trick room
>>59421283Yeah but it gives people an incentive to actually buy the membership if you've giving them a reason to have a large collection of pokemon.Giving people the same format for like 3 months doesn't give them the reason to have more then 2 teams, 3 tops.
Maybe they will introduce some single player mode
>>59421312>paid DLC PVE mode
>>59421312I'd love some battle facilities. it only makes sense
Not complaining but its very hard to find non retarded rain players, 9/10 get goobed by baiting them into thinking I didn't select Ychu, must be really mind numbing clicking Electro Shot to win in the lamest way possible
>>59421250Biggest Steel type threats atm are probably Corv,Gross, Ghould and Aegislash. Maybe consider running Gengar since Shadow Ball chunks almost all of those? Only one it really fears is Aegis because of Sneak.
>opponent sends out Greninja against my Prankster mon>no matter, I just have to stall for a turn so his type changes and then I can affect him with Prankster moves>it's a fucking Torrent GreninjaPoke Ball tier is wild.
>>59421362what about archa
>>59421368Running out of VP is a legit possibility with these people, so maybe it was that
>>59421372Still doesn't want to really take a Shadow Ball or two, definitely not a Focus Miss either.
>>59421368ive honestly considered torrent greninja at one point since it can at least keep 2 STABs thanks to protean nerfthen i got a ZA greninja from GTS and started playing mega gren instead which refreshes protean once after mega evolving
>>59421368Have you faced the bot who gives you a free win with altaria, arcanine, kingambit and a few others?
>>59421373I still find this unbelievable with how easy it is to gain VP in this game. Either they perma-recruit everything or they just waste them all on cosmetics
>>59421385I do remember an Altaria.It couldn't even 3HKO my Maushold with no defensive investment.
>performance bonusIs this new? I don't remember seeing this last season, only win-streak bonus.
>>59421396Its been around since I think the first Ranked reset
>>59421392>they perma-recruit everythingHave you seen that one anon a few days ago? He was as hell bent on 'rolling' the ranch even after every single person told him to stop because you still need the vp to train the mons proper. Some people assume this is more genshin and less master duel.
>>59421392To be fair most people still don't know the pokemon you get on trial stay in your box when the week is up
where did (You) place last season? i peaked 1980 at master ball 2dont feel like climbing this time with nothing new to play with, literally doing 1 match a day for the daily not even gonna bother with weekly quests
>>59421413I ended 1800 because I was disappointed it took switching to the generic Charizard team to climb 300 points out of my rut.
>>594214131812 or something close to that. I'm gonna meme in singles with a Starter squad and then maybe fuck around in Doubles with a Dragon Mono since nobody is playing that for the tournament. Probably won't switch from my current type, but who knows.
They should bring ball capsules/stickers to Champions as an extra customization option.They already have all the 3D assets from BDSP anyway.
As I thought, this build turbo-fucks any pokemon that Attract actually works on. They can't do anything once Attract and Swagger are stacked.Obviously it's gender-dependent and type-dependent (Prankster doesn't work on Dark-types, Attract and Swagger don't work on Ghost-types) but luckily I can see all that information in the pre-battle screen, even the genders of the opponents' pokemon. If they have too many non-males, I can just not bring the cat.
>>59421429I heard this thing was getting an evolution in Winds & Waves.
>>59421433Does your dad work at TPC?
>>59421434Not him, but the next big supposed leak is that there's 300 "new" Pokemon in terms of new mons, forms, regionals, etc. I don't believe it but SV at least showed they're willing to do cross-gen evos again, and I'd like to think almost all of them are "successes" in GF's eyes even outside of competitive.
>>59421250>Male Sneasler>Female Gliscorreturn them
>>59421144A lot of the Pokemon choices didn’t and still don’t make sense desu. E.g. Rhyperior is in the game but none of the other Gen 4 cross-gen evos like Dusknoir aren’t, yet the fucking elemental monkeys that are completely useless are in.
>use mostly meta slop last round>want to go for a different team or at least change some Pokémon around>don't have the Pokémon I would need>limited space so only collected meta slop>no starter pack on mobileMeta slop it is
>Maushold Population Bomb OHKOs M-DragoniteI love this little fucker.
>>59421482Its worst enemy would always be ghost types and garchomp.
>>59421413finished 1800 with a fun garde team, dunno if i want to aim any higher this time. maybe I'll play more bss with pex this time around
>>59421429This thing fucking prints forfeits in Singles, holy shit.
They keep giving me Male Alolan Ninetales.miss me with that trans shit.
so what happens when your box is full? is there no way to get rid of Pokemon? especially rentals that supposedly stay? I only started playing a few days ago
>>59421523>is there no way to get rid of Pokemon?There's an option on the recruit screen to return them to the ranch.
>>59421509encore disable also works and is less rng than attract/swagger
>>59421527Encore+Disable requires you to take that first hit, though.Plus I think people are more likely to keep trying (and failing) to play through the status conditions if they have a chance of doing something. Encore+Disable is going to be an immediate switch-out 100% of the time.
I've almost hit MB in the first day. Is this just the power of playing early-season? I've never had such a big win streak before.
Does this Gallade make sense or am I retarded? It's max Hp max Def.
>>59421537They call him the drink
>>59421537I assume he's the designated Archaludon/Staraptor/Sneasel killer.
Do you think female Indeedee will keep Trick Room in Champions? I know she learns it via TM now but that was just damage control
>>59421401>Some people assume this is more genshin and less master duelI hate that I understand what this means. Where did it all go so wrong?
>>59421532you take the first hit with substitute and either wisp/foul play/night shade for progress or mean look if you wanna commit to the bit (sableye/banette set because cade doesn't get disable iirc)
>>59421563>you take the first hit with substitute>substitute>enemy attacks>substitute takes it>encore>get hit with the encored attackLike I said, you still have to get hit.Though maybe Sableye is bulky enough to take it.
>>59421533I’d say so. Happened to me during S2 (lost it just before getting to MB4 but won the following 2 games to get me there). I was on a 7-win streak with my team when I was playing earlier today but I’ve got a feeling I’ll lose it when I next play.
I forgot how fast it was to get out of Pokeball and GB. Shit... guess i'll farm vp in singles
>>59421572substitute - eat hityou disable - their move failsthey change their move - encore comes out first locking them into a disabled moveforced struggle completetry doing this on a corrosive salazzle so you're guaranteed toxic damage on anything they switch in. you do lose the prio tho and can be outsped
>>59421549If there’s one thing ILCA have been doing (mostly) right, it’s been balancing the Pokemon. I think they’re aware of Indeedee F’s reputation and would find ways to nerf it by either taking away TR or possibly other support moves.
>>59421596Why do you need to farm vp?Are you pulling for something?
>>59421065tell me about the umbreon
Need an eternal floette to trade for something on the GTS thanks
>>59421617Forgot to fill in the forms whoops
>>59421611Because i want to
I want to try a trick room team but I don't know how to build it. I have the core setters Farigiraf and Sinistcha. I have some slow Megas like Crabominable, Aggron and Golurk. I do have an Abomasnow actually. No Torkoal no Camerupt no Oranguru. I also don't know what to put as the other Pokémon. I was thinking of trying a hybrid sand trick room team with slow Tyranitar for weather with a fast Excadrill for outside of trick room situations but my team would get raped by water types.
>>59421651you run coverage moves on the supportmonssinistcha with matcha gotcha, lightning bolt on farigiraf to deal with swampert/pelipper so the team would be those plus excadrill and mega tyranitarfor a trick room team you might want Sylveon which deals good damage to swampert and archaludon under TR and mega scrafty for the mega? it's pretty strong
I never noticed, your pokeballs on your belt reflect what your actual pokeballs you caught them with are
>>59421668Yeah, that's a thing so it's another work for those with ball-tism
>>59421668If those fidget spinners hold the Pokeballs what is the satchel for?
>>59421672Items
>>59421676But don't the pokemon hold the items?
>>59421676You know what? I'm half expecting casuals to complain not able to use Full Restore in ranked
>>59421429>Swagger don't work on Ghost-typesSwagger works on Ghost-types. What ghost did you target?
>>59421687Nevermind, it turns out I was just dumb and thought normal-type status moves couldn't hit ghosts just like normal-type attacks can't.
>>59421601TR/Psyspam is weak enough that even with Indeedee bringing both it's still not that good.
Yea i couldnt even get his pokemon to faint. Time to retire this team
>>59421657Is Scrafty slow enough? I could settle on Tyranitar for mega and an alt one. Maybe Crabominable.>Farigiraf>Sinistcha>Mega Tyranitar>Excadrill>Mega Crabominable>SylveonThough I kind of want to try Golurk too.
>>59421651Don't make a hard Trick Room team. A hard Trick Room team is just saying "I want to play a flowchart team where I have to lead certain Pokemon and press certain buttons on turn one and my opponent knows it." It works great at low levels but once you reach the level where people know the counterplay you are walking into losses or at best 50/50s where you're rolling the dice on "will they bring the counterplay for TR lead 1 or TR lead 2?" And also while playing this flowchart team you're using Pokemon that are slower than your opponents', meaning if you ever don't get it up, you most likely lose. And also also, there is a 1 in 3 chance your opponent can just hard cuck you with double Protects and stall out TR, even if you do everything right. Don't treat TR as a weather you build your team around, treat it like speed control. If you're slower than your opponents' team, on average, set up TR. Use it to punish opposing Tailwinds. Basically just make a good team and then have Trick Room be a speed control option.
>>59421693I'm trying to understand what the Mega Garchomp without sand is for. Mega Venusaur seems counter intuitive to having sun too.
>>59421696base 68 on the mega, not too slow but slower than sinistcha.>mega golurk/crabominableyou could try those too and feel what's best for you. I like scrafty because it has double intimidate and fake out but you have chosen other solid options
If you play perish song teams, legitimately go fuck yourself for wasting my time
>>59421698Honestly I just want to try to make Mega Golurk work but hard trick room seems to be the only option for it. I have a decent Charizard mostly meta slop team already that I made Mega Eelektross work with I can fall back to but I wanted to try something new.
>>59421702nobody uses him so i wanted to use MChomp with the lowest speed lol. Ven usually never goes mega if he's in the sun... unless there's TR and i need him to tank fire and ice on the opposing team. The team (Oranguru replaced with Grimmsnarl) gave me a pretty good win streak last season but now I'm faced with the usual meta teams you see in higher elos and Champ it's starting to show cracks
>got pokemon legends arceus (at a massive discount) so I can farm basculegions and trade them all into the GTS
What was the update even forAre they really not going to add new mons in?
>losing streak to random meta shit>Switch up my usual dogshit for the mega Staraptor meme why not seems fun and mostly brainless>Frosslass>Frosslass>Glalie>Abomasnow>FrosslassWhy are they doing this
I DON'T WANNA USE COPY PASTE META TEAMS JUST TO GET HIGHER ELOS FUCK THAT SHIT I WANNA FIGURE THINGS OUT MYSELF FUCK YOU META FUCKERS
>>59421651I have a sandroom team with Mega Chesnaught that I've been using for fun. It's not amazing but it works well enough.
>>59420803Would make more sense than sheer force
how do you get those badges that you can put on your profile? I have zero
>>59421759achievements
>>59421759You get them by completing achievements.
>>59421759Winning games and using moves of different types are the main ways. The way to get the badges is described and shown under Achievements, but they’re accessed in the Profile section>Tfw still no option to organise them so new ones always go to the bottom of the list.
>>59420773
>win a game with the skin of my teeth even after missing 3 crucial moves (2 of which i am sure are from bright powder)>next game comes>double crit oneshots both the opponentThe rng giveth, the rng taketh
>quick claw activates
Any help with a maushold?
>>59421786pleas read >>59421660
>>59421785>VictribellKek
It hurts my head that my primarina is male, pleeeeaaase
>final match before Master Ball>get frozen by Ice Beam
>>59421696I've been using Mega Scrafty with Trick Room/Skill Swap Malamar. Depending on the match up it can work pretty well if you Skill Swap Contrary onto Scrafty for Close Combat.
>>59421823I managed to get frozen three times in one fight because of the stupid Blizzard-spamming Ice cream. How I actually managed to end up winning is beyond me.
>>59421706I tried a bunch of pulls because I had a bunch of tickets I wasn't using but only got Hatterene. Could I use that instead of Sylveon? I also got Oranguru, Kangaskhan, Galar Slowking, Grimmsnarl, Sableye and Araquanid if those help. I'm very quickly running out of room and would actually buy the fucking starter pack if the game let me.
>>59421840>hatterene instead of sylveonsylveon is pretty much irreplaceable because of pixilate hyper voice/hyper beamyou could try using it with calm mind and draining kiss to keep it alivegrimmsnarl and sableye are good but I wouldn't replace farigiraf/sinistcha
faggot fucking toxapex protecting itself three fucking times in a row after using wide guard to make me paranoid. this dude must have seriously been reading my inputs
>every time I use a sleep move, the enemy wakes up on the next turn>every time the enemy uses a sleep move, I sleep for 3+ turnsExplain this shit.
>>59421866Pretty sure I got Sylveon plenty of times before but never picked it. Serves me right. I could always trade for one but for Home transfers I try to go for shinies if possible. I'm seriously considering borrowing a Switch just to buy the starter pack since you can't on mobile.
Raichu line supremacy
>Fake Out>Parting Shot>Fake Out>Parting Shot>Fake Out>Parting Shot
>>59421906How do you respond without sounding mad
>>59421906stupid sexy cat
>>59421909become beyond mad
>>59421906never played the game he was from or followed Pokemon after x and y, but when I saw him in smash I really liked his design and overall theme. it's too bad he's a fucking faggot with a little bitch play style in actual battles. *focus blasts with m sceptile*
Do moves like hypervoice or heatweave do full damage to both enemies? Or split.
>>5942191875% to both
>>59421918Spread moves do 75% damage if there’s multiple targets (even if one protects or is immune somehow)
>>59421906I feel like this is exceptionally rare. I got to 2.1k and almost nobody did that, and on the contrary you VERY often saw shit like life orb close combat.
>random Pelipper when i got homeI've always hated rain teams... but I guess it's time for me to sorta embrace em.
>>59421906*Defiant Kingambit*Thanks bro
>>59421909respond? I'm the one doing it
>>59421799sent :)>>59421786sent :)
>>59421787Sorry. First time asking.Ill try being a human>>59421973Thanks alot brother..
Im having more fun in casualtheres actual variety of teamspeople are experimentingI feel like theres actual freedomIm less mad if I lose in a row.Why the fuck arent we allowed to earn VP in casual?.
>>59421725>Female Tyranitar>>59421693>Female Torkaol>>59421537>Male Sneasler>Male DelphoxReturn.
Did anyone that bought the starter pack still feel constrained by box space or is it good enough? Realistically I'm never going to use most of this crap with cool titles I keep trying to hoard.
>>59421992>Why the fuck arent we allowed to earn VP in casual?.Because then it won’t be casual
>Archaludons are starting to run Mirror Coat nowIf you don't bring a mon who can OHKO them, you're just fucked.
>>59422058I have also seen Metal Burst before.
>want to run hatterene in my hard TR, especially for secondary TR set>100% overlap with farig+mawile>magic bounce is useless atm
>>59422098mystical fire that mawile
>>59422108I knew someone would respond with this, but I feel like you missed the point. I am running mawile and farig, meaning it doesn't bring anything unique. Except magic bounce (bad), and moves that don't validate bringing it over torkoal or something similar. Maybe armarouge could work, or a faster ironballmon
>predict Blaziken will protect on the first turn, so I boost in order to still outspeed it on the second turn>it doesn't protect>OHKOs my first mon during the turn it boosts and proceeds to sweep my team with Flare Blitz and High Jump Kick>aha, I have learned from last time. This time I'll simply attack the Blaziken and kill it before it can boost>it protects>now outspeeds my first mon>proceeds to sweep my team with Flare Blitz and High Jump Kick
>>59422120shit like this is why mimikyu is mandatory on BSS now
Competitive Pokemon is cool and all but why is there no unique for fun event or whatever? It's literally just ranked for MONTHS with nothing else going on.Fuck I thought Master Duel was low effort but at least that game has unique event every month.
>>59422126They hate unique stuff
>>59422120When you reach this level of skill/knowledge, pokemon just turns into a 2 option rock paper scissors game, then turns into a math game once you're smarter about minmaxing stats/mons/moves to do weird shit and predict multiple turns in advance for either options, then goes back to being rock paper scissors againlike 99% of players never reach the last phase
>>59422126they saw pokemon tcg pocket and decided ranked and limited time events that are essentially ranked is the way to go in terms of content
Is Ceruledge not cut out for Singles?I feel like I rarely have reason to bring him and when I do, he doesn't perform very well.Even with maxed attack, he doesn't seem to put out enough damage to kill before he gets killed.
>>59422126The gay thing is they are literally doing that in ZA right now
Please and thanks
>>59422129rock paper scissors with extra steps is the inevitable conclusion of all turn based games with simultaneous decision
>>59422021it still can be as long as there is no rank points
>>59422120>HJK
>>59422120singles babby
Belibolt needs a nerfsoak is too much , he is already bulky
>>59422126Yeah they aren't even putting out low-effort cosmetics. They've even reached the point where the Battle Pass is no longer recycled shit from ZA and instead they're using it to sell trash that wouldn't even do well as store filler.It's over for this game.
>>59422194Pokemon is pretty shallow and has literally zero skill expression, but almost everything in the planet devolves into that. Even athletics, etc.
That Blastoise/Delphox team is so annoying. Safety Googles can't come soon enough...
>>59422238For singles or doubles? I wanted to run him in doubles but hes a little understatted.
Evasion b oosting moves shouldn't exist
>>59422279Bro, your Kowtow Cleave?
>>59422120>make correct prediction this time and hit it>would've OHKO it if not for the fact that it was a Focus Sash Reversal Blaziken>it sweeps my team again
>>59422120yeah my number 1 loss condition is me being too smart for my opponent and predicting them to either play optimally or trying to do the big brain playthen they do something dumb and I losebeing smart is suffering
>>59422300Always keep some priority in the pocket bro
>>59422279Agreed, and who uses them should be liable for lynching
>>59422290It's not that there isn't a lot counterplay at this point, it's that it's a strategy that, on average loses, but has enough variance to occasionally win and when it does it just makes people mad. Like if your opponent in a closed team sheet match leads a scarf Sheer Cold user or something and gets lucky and gets two of your Pokemon on turns one and two. You're probably going to lose, through no fault of your own. Now imagine that but instead of it being a quick 3 minute game, it's 19 minutes. It's an ass-clown strategy that just exists to troll people. It's fine for single player shenanigans, but has no place in an actual competitive focused game. A better alternative would be reworking evasion moves so they give a 85% chance to dodge the next move targeted at that Pokemon, but the effect fades after a move targets the Pokemon, hit or miss. It'd be like setting up a Substitute; good if you can predict a free turn to get it up, but it doesn't just make you invincible forever.
>>59422306What's the difference between your opponent being dumb and your opponent being so smart he realizes you'll overpredict and chooses the option to punish you?
Just got the option to recruit a second charizard. Considering doing it to have one phys build for X (singles) and one spec build for Y (doubles). Same for raichu and the other Z megas once they are released. Saves me some VP. Wont be doing dupes for any other pokemon though as the VP cost is negligible. Not sure though because seeing two zards in my box will trigger my autism / OCD. Playing champions only and paid for the sub so box space is not an issue. Opinions?
I chose Armarouge as my first pokemon. He is cute and I love him
>>59422405I mean if you have unlimited slots there's not much reason NOT to have multiples of the same mon if they have multiple radically different build options.
>>59422146go fuck yourself, sub human beggar
>>59422209I just had an enemy Blaziken miss it twice in a row and kill himself.
Anyone got one of those duped Floettes available for trade? Will suck your dick.
>no rocks>no TR>zero priority outside of starmieSo Ranked is primarily based on RNG am I right? Theres just no way this team got to no.1 last season, Honestly either the dude has ZERO life outside of Pokemon he spammed battles from the start endlessly or he got isnanely lucky with his matchups. Half the team gets walled by Venusaur. I swear to god I have outplayed this team in my sleep. Is tailwind just that broken?
>>59422446Assuming sucker on samurott and speed control with tailwind whims, it's fine
>>59422446i dont think you realise how fucking cancer bellibolt is in singles.also:>Honestly either the dude has ZERO life outside of Pokemon he spammed battles from the start endlesslyits a slint eyed mf, what did you expect
>>59422420Cope and sneed little feedy, you know you want to
>>59422420how does it feel being the only crybaby throwing tantrums in these threads lol
>>59422449>>59422449>no fire moves>no grass moves>no ground moves>no psychic moves>ice spinner as his only dragon coverage>no dragon pokemon at all>>59422451Bellibolt is the only "problem" on his team but I have never been flustered by it>DDance first turn>bellibolt used SOAK!>Dragonite used EQ>takes half of his health>Dragonite doesnt die from parabolic due to Multiscale >EQs again>winH-Goodra or a Snorlax puts his whole team in a fucking blender to be quite honest.
Is it possible to make a team focused on flinching the opponent a lot?
>>59422490Maushold using Population Bomb while holding King's Rock would have a very high chance to flinch, provided you land a decent number of hits with it.I think that's about it, since Serene Grace isn't in the game.
>>59422490Jirachi, Shaymin and togekiss
if the faggot who crit my chomp reads this i hope you get jumped by a pack of niggers
>lose because my Wide Lens Population Bomb with 99% accuracy hit fucking 2/10 times
>>59422490Gyrados Waterfall with a Kings Rock was pretty unfair for a time until Gamefreak decided people couldnt have fun
>>59422498>relying on a multi hit move>relying on Mausholds multi hit moveYou did it to yourself
>>59421062>500k players at least in master ballcompared to how many playing this season is the big question, comparing percentage of people in master ball to lower tiers
God I hate the Fairy type so fucking much.
It's a shame all the fucking TRmons are megas so you can't bring them. Camerupt and Crab are so good, but you really need mawile.
>enemy blizzard never misses and always freezesThis is driving me fucking insane.
>dedicated Trick Room teams
>make it to master ball with a meganium>the IDF shows up at the front door>they break down the door>they use psychic powers to immobilize me>I'm forcefully stripped of my clothes and raped in the name of remphan>the IDF soldiers then laid a curse on me while invoking the name of king solomon
>>59422540
>>59422513Mega Mawile is a really interesting mon on Zard Y teams because it can kind of act like role compression of Gambit and Sylveon/Floette. Frees up a spot on the team to plug a potential matchup weakness.
>>59422532They do really well as long as you operate under the assumption you know the enemy knows exactly what to do. Gambit + Aero lead is really punishing but can be fake out'd
>>59422540a regular day in Palestine
season m-3 top 10 usage stats, garchomp stocks are rising where sneedler is barely scraping by. sylveon might be a result of this being mobiles first season, but also because it can be a better option than m-floette sometimes too
>>59422540Based, IDF has not tortured the mudslimes enough
>>59422058>what is Sturdy?
>>59422540Did you lose 1/4 of your health at the end of the turn?
Moody keeps fucking maximizing my attack on a non-physical mon.It's like the game is purposely giving me the worst "random" outcomes possible.
I remember when Clefable was Normal Type… Also, my spellcorrect redlined it’s name.
>>59422592>3 of the top 5 are weak to ice, 4 if you count freeze drythis feels like a moment for snow to rise as an anti-meta strat
>>59422715Because 6th and 7th destroy ice types.
>>59422725carrying any decent rock or fighting coverage btfos zard and gambit respectivelyincin is a problem though
>>59422661Fighting against two all-physical attackers who I was faster than to begin with, by the way.
>>59422540>>I'm forcefully stripped of my clothes and rapedjust the average /vp/edo user fantasy.
>>59422592> 1 based player> 2 gay, rope every user> 3 gay> 4 beyond gay, throw the user and his whole fucking family into a woodchipper, feet first.> 5 see 4> 6 based player> 7 okish> 8 okish> 9 see 4> 10 based user
>>59422725>>59422734mamoswine destroys incin, gambit and zard (with speed control) and loves being in snow
>>59422795Pedophiles fantasize about being rape victims?
>>59422810where im from, thats a woman teacher
so did they up the miss chance on every move or is there a reason i missed three rock slides two will o wisps and one heat wave in the span of three games
>>59422715Israel won't allow that.
bibi has just endorsed rain teams
>m-starraptor>primarina with psyche-up to pass boosts right before it dies>sinistcha healer>bulky incin fake out and supportthis might be the most vantablack nigger gimmick team i've fought so far outside of gengar perish trap
>>59422967didn't carry taunt or encore award
>>59422567But they don't do well. They're noob killers. They do great at Day 1 levels then job out Day 2. When was the last time you saw a TR team in the top cut of a tournament, much less win one? Your goal shouldn't be to make an X-2 team because with bad luck that becomes an X-4. Your goal should be an X-0 that with bad luck becomes X-2.
>>59422802kek pretty accurate
>>59422306if the 'optimal' play leads to a loss, it wasn't optimal. simple as that. you were outplayed and the only smart play is the one that leads to victory.
considering every team wants at least:>protect on most members>1 or 2 STAB moves per attacker, ideally some single target and some spread>coverage>redirection>fake out>encore/taunt/etc. disruption>speed control>priority/revenge kill>weather/terrain setting>recoveryto be able to cover as many different opponents as possiblei'm not really surprised the meta always boils down to the same dozen or so mons that can do a lot of these simultaneouslyif you can't do at least 3 of these on one guy (including their ability) they're probably dead weight
>>59422592If you have 2 or more of these pokemon on your team, you are a boring FAGGOT
>>59423093and you're a fucking loser.
>>59423093>dragapult tops the meta even in the games
>>59423123>t. whomosicott user
>>59423123>this is my team btw
Incineroar players are the luckiest cunts i swear
>>59423173>mega garchompDangerously based
>$10 for three pokemon almost 90% of the playerbase already has>Two battle posesWhat the FUCK is going on here
How many of you actually spent money on this game
>>59423185Nips are retarded what is new
>>59423185Three Pokémon in cherish balls
>>59423189That you can’t export from the game making them entirely useless to anyone who actually plays the games. If they let you keep them forever through HOME I’d at least understand
When are they going to give F2P players more box space?
>>59422446>Female Corviknight>Female BeliboltThey need to be returned
>>59422446>japanese player with black girl avatarYou just know this man is overwhelmingly based
I genuinely don't know how to play anything except TR. How do you fuck with speed tiers and all of that, and understand if you should be running tailwind or not? Doesn't the current best team NOT run tailwind?
Would -1 attack, or losing STAB nerf dmg more?
>>59423063Tournaments aren’t relevant to how TR plays on ladder cuz they have to just guess all the interactions with your setter
>>59423241>-1 32 Atk Life Orb Garchomp Earthquake vs. 2 HP / 0 Def Floette-Mega: 62-74 (41 - 49%) -- guaranteed 3HKO>32 Atk Life Orb Garchomp (Dragon) Earthquake vs. 2 HP / 0 Def Floette-Mega: 62-74 (41 - 49%) -- guaranteed 3HKOInteresting, it seems its roughly the same loss
>3 matches in a row the same pebbles spikes dragon tail/scale shot garchomp leadWhat the fuck is everyone just using presets from somewhere. Why the fuck would they even lead that if they see that I have a whimsicott
>>59423294BSS? If I see Dragonite or Zard on other side, I will always lead with Sneaky Peebles
>>59423297Ultra ball 2 singles. Don't use either of those. Only one weak to pebbles is my Kleavor
>>59423302Guess it's some circulated strat combining peebles and tail. I fought similar build but with Archaludon instead. I suppose it's decent since it stops any set-up sweepers
Give me shit bros, my autism literally can't build a doubles team
>>59423306Seen it on the stupid bridge before but literally 3 in a row with Chomp is like the fuck did they think they were gonma do if I lead whimsicott. What youtuber made a video on it or what
Have the devs talked about giving out nerfs or buffs for the pokemon already in-game?Pokemon never did an update for ongoing main series, so I'm curious. Maybe only DLCs as some kind of buffs.
>>59422098Magic bounce is sort of funny when a support mon encores itself.
>>59423327This is what we got for M-A. Whether we will get monthly changes is a big if for now
>>59423336Just reduce zardy spa by 20 or something
>>59422058At least shitmons like Aurorus have dignity...
>>59423336These updates is still given before the game is released, right? Not when the game is on-going.I just hope they can give constant patches if they really want to make champions longlasting. Not just by adding new pokemons
>>59423241it's the same modifier
How to fix pocket (and competitive pokemon as a whole)>whimsicott loses tailwind>farigigiraf loses trick room>fake out reduced to +1 priority>protect only works once while on field (resets when switch out)>you can only be flinched once while out on the field (resets when switch out)>the following abilities now only trigger the first time a pokemon enters battle: drought, drizzle, sand stream, snow warning, intimidate, hospitalityBoom.These changes only improve the game. Prove me wrong.Pro-tip, you cannot.
>>59423336I do wonder if these changes will show up in the future mainline games
>>59423354I'm glad you're not in charge lmao
>>59423354Just add more options.Give weather and terrain abilities to more pokemons.Give redirection moves to more pokemons
Monotype tournament starts in a week. Better join now before it's too late, anons!>>59377245
>>59423361You like losing games to getting flinched 4 times in a row?You love it when your opponent gets 3 protects in a row? Outskilled right?You like fake out outspeeding follow me for some gay as reason?You like weather wars?
>>59423316why wide lens but trop kick, wouldnt power whip make more sense?I do not like the delphox + meowstic combo on your team. I think you are better off using mega delphox with 2 attacks, encore + protect and then Male meowstic with sash fake out, psychic terrain plus two more, maybe sunny day could be better.Mental herb grimm is kind of a meme even on low ranks. I think grim himself is fine, but on your team its sort of redundant especially since you already have meowstic, and i just dont see the value of screens. I dunno, id switch him off for another support, maybe sinistcha for switching into final gambit staraptor or something, idk
>>59423316Doesn't running psychic terrain make tsareena a tad redundant?
>>59423374I'm more of trying to make mega meowstic f work.
>>59423372There are answers to all the things you listed in the forms of moves, abilities, items and type matchups. These answers add depth to teambuilding and decision making. Without depth this game is just pick biggest base damage move that's stab and supereffective. No decisions, no counterplay, just click big damage every turn and hope you rolled the best turn 1 matchup.The meta rn is a bit sinched on some aspects due to the limited pokemon pool but it'll widen over time no doubt. Adding stuff like terrain setters and widening cloud nine availability would go a long way in addressing most of your concerns. Gutting all depth from the game due to a few meta mons dominating a limited format would be an insane overreaction.
>>59423316>Male SylveonYour biggest sin is not returning that trans shit
I wonder how many battle passes have been sold since the game release. I guess the gooner Canari one did well but the current battle pass is the shittiest one so far.
>>59423436It's Corbeau next season so that will certainly sell as well. The irony is when the first two BP failed to sell. Maybe players just don't like the protags
>>59423381>meowstic f well the main reason for meowstic f into mega is for the competitive boost and i dont see how you manually set it up.>https://youtu.be/j4vrFRXK0tk?si=7DMw-G3XUu_NAmKkthis team does the wyrdeer skill swap shennanigans to give yourself the boost, and is a more psychic terrain dedicated team>https://youtu.be/ax8FXVNwmrA?si=XnHbtF652tUEm71rthis team is more balanced with stuff like tauros and rotom>https://youtu.be/1ESXLS7MHiU?si=iedTU9D8jKW-l_NCand this team is just a rain team which is pretending to use meowstic for setting up rain for some strange reason. I guess its to catch staraptor? I dont really get it
>>59423463forgot to add>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1axlwmzPA49rYkqXh7zHvAtSP-TKbM0ijGYBPRflLSWw/edit?usp=sharingliterally zero tournament results for mega meowstic, so best you have is meme youtube teams.Surprisingly the japs test it more in singles, so maybe its better there than doubles
Bought the battle pass. The Meganium blazer is kino
>>59421085v2 of the uu team.Initially i wanted rotom for the charizard matchup and maybe fighting against charizard, but i just never felt comfortable bringing it in.Switched to palafin since i realized with mystic water, you always oneshot the charizard (either helping hand jet punch or wave crash). I do lose to the solar beam though, so i need to keep that in mind>>59423093post your OC donut steel team then. I posted mine
Can someone please please pretty please give me a cute little Aurora fox
>>59423489>i wanted rotom for the charizard matchup and maybe fighting against charizard*maybe fighting against garchomp.Woops forgot to fix that.Thankfully tsareena is a beast for sniping chomp outPretty smooth climb to ultra now. Hopefully nothing fucks me over randomly
>>59423492almost got fucked with roughskin chomp earlier, and tsareena's slower tho, does chomp get poison jab in champions?
>>59423500>tsareena's slower thowhich is why you run scarf>does chomp get poison jab in championsit does
thinkgen bout running iron ball gallade, mega camerupt, farig, and araquanid for my TR team
I didn't even have to switch out Liepard once. Dude sent in Sneasler, Archaludon and M-Blaziken, constantly trying to switch out every single time I used Attract and Swagger over and over, then forfeited when his M-Blaziken he finally decided to keep in was being attract-confuse-locked by a fucking dark type hiding behind a substitute.
>>59423372I don't see the issue with weather war and the fake out one
>>59423488Post it.
>>59423528full shiny teams are so corny
>>59423528>Male Primarina>Male SneaslerReturn immediately
>>59423553
>>59423571Not bad, but a shirt on, slut.
lol
>>59423528Kek, guess I need to make sure my team is not just one gender then
>win>next team is metaslop>lose>next team is a bot>win>next team is metaslop>lose>next team is a botwhere are the actual bad players like me
>>59423584Low ultra. Get out of Great Ball bro
Im going to have a Sceptile die in my gift box cause my pokebox is full
Can you use After You with moves that have negative priority?
>>59423491sent :)
>>59423584>zard y>kingambit>garchomp>whimsicott>venusaur>basculegionwake me up get some identity metafags
>intimidate>no assault vest>occasional gigawall like m-aggron or m-steelixwhy again would you ever run physical attackers in this game currently
>>59423614https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aztdmq1tYY8
>>59423614I'm glad I switched my azumaril for a primarina, better synergy with After You Mega Lopunny too and the only spread move i had on my team was snarl
I cucked
>fighting archaludon in trick room>I bring it to 1% with an aura sphere, sturdy procs, it mirror coats and kills my low health attacker>okay.jpg>bring out my base 100 speed attacker with 9 speed IVs>surely if its sturdy its max speed or at least modest max speed right>nope its bulky 0 speed STURDY archaludon and kills me with dracoWhat the fuckWhy would you run bulk on a sturdy archaludonThat's not the point of sturdy archaludon, thats literally mentally retarded why aren't you running staminaI can't with these fucking japanese players they should all die
>>59423614well the phys thugs kill the special sissies
Still trying to figure out how to beat this metacrap team with a not so meta setup. The bulk, coverage and perfect switch ins live in my head rent free
i hate the double attack vs. protect mindgame i hate the double attack vs. protect mindgame i hate the double attack vs. protect mindgame i hate the double attack vs. protect mindgame
got an umbreon but I don't take know what to do with it? bulky hp/def with annoying shit like toxic/thunder wave/roar/protect/wish? having issues coming up with a partner and good use case
>>59423687He is better in singles
>>59423687It has so many move options + a very good ability for doubles in Inner Focus, i use one with a Bold nature full HP & Defense holding Leftovers with Taunt for Trick Room and annoying redirection mons, Yawn for checkmate situations vs the opponents last mons and to disrupt, Snarl for disruption spam on overly special teams (don't make the mistake of using it on milotic and don't mindlessky click it if the opponent may have a gambit in the back) and Foul Play for fish. Really depends on what your team needs, it has a pretty expansive doubles movepool and can forgo Protect cause the thing is super hard to take down with neutral and resisted hits, options include Moonlight for more longevity so it doesn't get chipped down too much so it can Foul Play a basculegion in the back, Helping Hand for stronger hits from teammates etc, Ceruledge is a good teammate cause it resists bug, fire and fairy
>>59423569I'm sure he did in the end
>>59423687I saw someone using it alongside mega scovillian using Spicy Spray and Umbreon using Foul Play
>>59423687You can use it on Doubles with Snarl/Foul Play/Yawn/Protect.
>>59420649Anyone have a spare Audino? It's moveset is really slept on and it's mega might not be so bad with the chance of healing burns and paralysis that a set up mon may get, I want to Simple Beam a swords dance mega mawile in Trick Room with Ally Switch to confuse opponents or bring back gen 1 amnesia with x2 Calm Mind on something else
>>59423767
>>59423767>chance of healing burns and paralysisDont know why they think healing status on switch is so broken it has to be put on a coinflipMeanwhile BuyOurDLCcha Hospitality is a guaranteed HP recovery which is more immediately impactful than status heal in doubles where both abilities are used
>>59423767I only got 1 in Go sorry anon. Im thinking of running it when i get bored of the mons i got
>>59423767To be honest most of the Pokémon you guys ask for should be pretty easy to obtain. Just put up a random fully evolved Pokémon and ask for the Pokémon you want then wait. If you ask for anything more meta that takes a little work to obtain like Archaludon, Sneasler, Kingambit, Basculegion, and Gholdengo usually you have to offer something of value.
>beat a Champion Tier TrainerDid I beat the game? Can I quit now?
>>59423832nokeep going until you beat a real champion that doesn't dress like a troon
Rate my "Win with your Favorites" team (technically a lot of my favorites aren't in the game but this is pretty close. And Raichu is actually my favorite)
I have never seen a Focus Blast miss
>>59423832Being dressed like that, he probably wasnt even taking you seriously
Any good Blastoise team? He was my favorite pokemon
Gonna try to grind 1k wins in pokeball tier so i'll be financially free in this game for a long time
Any Raichu X team?
>>59423898https://pokepast.es/37727e5d9078ed13cybertronvgc has a video on it
finally got a Scizor. who pairs well with my boy?
>try to make a funny meme team>it's fun but I lose 50% of my games due to rng or bad matchup>swtich back to my team of meta mons I'm used to>win streak through all ultraball>having more fun because I'm winningGuess I'll keep using my old team for the whole season again.
>>59423926rain teams
Am I a brainlet or dragalgae is very good into basically anything in the meta? The main problem I see are swampert, so you need something that can handle both water and ground moves, and maybe metagross if it runs psychic fangs.Garchomp too, but you might get around it undertrick room.Like, I kinda want to run offensive whimsi just because it covers both swampert and garchomp, even if Drag is a tr mon.
>>59423901>hitler has a video on it
>>59423969the third one is the issue
>>59423969that's what I've been thinking. the mega has good bulk so as long as you keep it healthy you should barely have any problemsinistcha checks for swampert too>garchompmaybe froslass as secondary mega or even lead with alolan ninetails
a forehead genetically made, crafted, FORGED, for heavy, splattering CUMSHOTS
>>59423996her skin looks weird like she has some diseasethey need to update her model, it's the one we see the most outside our own and the pokemons
Does anyone know of a half decent toxapex team that doesn't run zard?I'm too bad to teambuild myself and every example i've found is running zard
>>59424019you can copy whatever teams answer to rain and steels and you should be good to go. zard is the simplest one but you can run froslass, blaziken or whatever floats your boat.
>>59424019Toxapex supports and traps to allow a pivot or protect a strong sweeper. You could run about anything that does chunky damage. M-Pyroar and M-Delphox if you want to do what CharY does but be hipster about it. M-Metagross and M-Staraptor are some other options. Fill it with whatever.
>>59424025That makes a lot of sense actually thanks
Rilaboom can't come soon enough
>>59424040
what team does mega starmie even want to be in? can't be rain because swampert is better
>>59424058i lost to a cheese coaching sneasler team once
Just got into master singles when somehow I picked the wrong glasses.
>>59424063>scarf extremespeed
>>59424072Gotta go fast.
>>59424072It's really good in the Extreme Speed mirror bro
>>59424072There are times when you really want the priority, even with a scarf.
that's right, you dumb mother fucker, you lost. you lost after spamming protect and having it work multiple times in a row, getting you a cheese kill. go fuck your damn nigger self. protect should not ever work, EVER, when used multiple times in sequence.
>>59424072fucking kek
>>59423901>cybertroondropped
New bread.>>59424107>>59424107>>59424107
>>59423984I didn't even think about A-ninetales but yeah, it also hits Swampert with freeze dry.
